A Very Paranormal Origin of a Firefighter| UFOs, The Epstein Files & Disclosure| Ft. Cpt. Vito

0:32 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to Total Disclosure the podcast. This is actually kind of impromptu, last minute, but it was actually a really exciting surprise for me when you know, I just went down to DC myself, our new producer Jean Sticko, who is here. He is dealing with some stuff right now, and we have Jess at the home doing the video switch and thank you, thank you, Jes Yeah, thank you, Jamie. Just kidding, but super excited to be here. Honestly, I wanted to kind of kick it back too, and I know I'm holding my phone, which is like a live stream no no, but I asked for a specific, a specific thing because you were going to be here, and I wanted to start off obviously by saying thank you to everyone.

1:21 Speaker 1: The turnouts on the live streams have been really really good lately. On the YouTube side, we're still kicking. We did just rank on the podcast side again for like the fourth week in a row number one Indie science technology podcast, which is yeah, it's really really good and can't do it without everyone that's in this you know, studio right now, and that means Logan as well, especially Logan and before we get started, like share, subscribe, all that you know what it is. I don't want to waste too much time with that, but if you can leave us a review, if you're listening on a podcast platform platform in the future, it really helps.

2:02 Speaker 1: It goes such a long way. It's free. You have your phone in your hand already anyway, help her brother out.

2:07 Speaker 2: And pretend like you're going to complain about it, but put good things. Yes, you know what I mean. Like people only write reviews when they're complaining exactly. They never go out there and write the reviews when you got good things like tie is number one in science technology. To me, that's huge.

2:19 Speaker 1: So when I flipped it right, when when Because there's an option for indie and then you can do all. I was behind only Lex Friedman. Lex Friedman one of the biggest podcasters there is. I was only behind him, and maybe I'll overlay that. But yeah, So what I really wanted to do tonight is nothing is off limits. So obviously this being total disclosure podcast and we're in studio, this is last minute A veto is here for undisclosed reasons, but we're going to be you know, the goal is to always have fun, right, It's also to keep it simple all the truth wherever it leads, even when that gets uncomfortable, because I mean that we found the deeper that you look.

3:05 Speaker 1: Whether it's the unanswered questions surrounding Jeffrey Epstein, the growing number of military whistleblowers speaking out on record, or the quiet emission from agencies like the Pentagon and NASA, you start to realize something. The official story, well, it's rarely ever the full story, and you know it's not just going to be about the evidence. Obviously we're going to give our perspective. But sitting across from me is someone you know, new to the UFO world, uh, not new to the content creation world, but someone who's been in the not not been in the echo chamber for years, someone seeing it in real time, someone asking the same questions most people are kind of still afraid to ask, which I find refreshing, and those first questions are often, in my experience, they're the most honest.

3:53 Speaker 1: So tonight we're talking about all of it, UFOs, government secrecy, the paranormal power control, and the moment that make you question everything you thought was real. No scripts except for this one veto Welcome to the studio. Brother, we haven't seen each other since DC.

4:10 Speaker 2: How you bet not yet face to face, I've been I've been pretty good. I did. I got promoted. Yes, I got promoted after right or was it before?

4:18 Speaker 1: No, you got promoted before we went to D.

4:20 Speaker 2: Before we went to see Yeah, so I got promoted before we went to DC.

4:22 Speaker 1: And then you took immediate time off from being promoted.

4:25 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's like my first my first shift after being promoted, I took off just to go to the James Fox thing. Luckily enough, I was able to take a vacation day and just head down to that James Fox thing. Last minute. It was. It was once again last minute where I met Jane through uh a Twitter space hit him up through uh what is that site? Uh uh signal? Yeah, we clicked immediately, and then he hit me up and told me you guys were doing the James Fox thing. I go, I would love to do something like that, if you guys would have me.

4:57 Speaker 2: I appeared on your show that that night.

4:59 Speaker 1: Yes, I remember that.

5:00 Speaker 2: And then after that, Gene and I talked. That's when we spoke. We kind of bonded like real quick. Within fight was weird. It's like it's almost like a new Gene for thirty years after talking in five minutes, it's instantly click. And I felt kind of felt the same way with you as well. And you guys welcomed me on that trip and we went with Joe with the UAP disclosure. I forget the name was Channel a chronic you would be chronicles some of.

5:21 Speaker 1: That UAH and it was a reporting center.

5:24 Speaker 2: We were. It was a blast. My only regret is not staying that extra day. I think if we stayed that extra day, we were getting invited in Virginia and myself. Everybody seemed to love us.

5:34 Speaker 1: I already have the logan, what are you doing?

5:36 Speaker 2: He wants to be on, wants the interview too?

5:38 Speaker 1: What is he doing? Logan?

5:40 Speaker 2: He must see something, he sees something.

5:42 Speaker 1: This is live logan. You're ruining the whole show. Can we can someone get it? Can you can we get someone get there?

5:53 Speaker 2: Man?

5:56 Speaker 1: But no, I don't know. I've never seen him act like this. And I swear, remember all the stories I tell about this place. Every time he's in here, something over here. He's always fixated on something over here, and I can't figure out what it is.

6:12 Speaker 2: I'm seeing it. I feel something.

6:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, he's odd Gene call him in the other room. All right, tell me a little bit about you.

6:24 Speaker 2: My name is Vito. I'm from New Jersey. And you said I was new to the UFO thing. It's it's a yes and no. I'm new to like yes, new to the community, new to the content creation thing. I've been a believer in UFO is my entire life. I have especially been a believer in paranormal my entire life because that's something that I've experienced and dealt with since I was a baby. Like since I was a child, I've had weird.

6:46 Speaker 1: Okay, tell me more.

6:47 Speaker 2: Okay, so when did it?

6:49 Speaker 1: When do you what's your first memory?

6:52 Speaker 2: My first memory so when I was four years old. I don't remember if this is before or after I was involved. I'm a career firefighter, so I do for a living. Thank you for your servants, by the way, I appreciate that, but I always tell people there's no need to thank me. Thanking the military guy, don't thank me. I get paid to do what I do and I love my job like legitimately. I mean, you saw my text messages a couple weeks ago, and I caught three jobs in the same day. It was my cherry Popper's account.

7:19 Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm what's called the rescue. So when I was four years old, I was trapped in a burning building April nineteenth, nineteen eighty one, three point thirty in the morning. We get awoke into screams of someone's screaming fire, fire, the building's on fire. And what happened is is that the gentleman who used to live downstairs, a young teenage kid, had a crush on my sister. My sister was she's nine years old than me, so she was fourteen, he was eighteen, and my mother. He had a crush on my sister and he wanted to date my sister.

7:48 Speaker 2: My mother was like no, So they kicked him out of the building for whatever reasons, because he actually almost set the building on fire six months prior to that. They got, you know, kicked out of the building for that reason. So he comes back Easter morning, eighteen eighty one, April nineteenth and pours gasoline in all the hallways, all the hallways, and lit it on fire and left basically tried to murder everybody in the building just because my mother told him, no, you cannot date my teenage daughter.

8:14 Speaker 2: You're an adult. What's wrong with you? I tried to murder the whole family.

8:18 Speaker 1: And everybody in the complax.

8:20 Speaker 2: Yes, so we're My sister ended up somehow getting out. There was two ways out of the apartment. She went out the one way, and she did the one thing that we tell kids, and I'm going to say this again because it's living kids. If you get out of the house, stay out of the house. Is for anybody. Don't go back in, because that's when people end up going back in and dying.

8:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, professionals go in, you stay out.

8:40 Speaker 2: That's my job. Let me do that. So she got out and got back in, and we ended up. She got back in. She's lives.

8:49 Speaker 1: But she went back in.

8:50 Speaker 2: She came back in because she was freaking out. You know, she realized my mom and my brother, you know, So she came back in and went went at us. In my bedroom. We're talking like a like a bed from the size of that bathroom right there, that's how small it was. So my mother locked closed the door. We're in there. It's me, my mother, my mother's boyfriend at the time, and my sister and I mean fires in the apartment like it's it's coming at the door to the point my mom is literally hanging me out of the window.

9:15 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I'm four, I'm looking down and I'm up three stories and uh. There was a group of people there telling her a draft to let me go, and she doesn't. And then a cop came and he goes looks at her and he says, drop him. Lady, she lets me go. I fall, He catches me. I get brought across the street, given to the lady downstairs. At four years old, I looked in the window and I saw my mom. I looked away. I looked back in the window. I saw a flame. I thought my mother died at four. Like at four, I knew what death was like.

9:46 Speaker 2: This is crazy to say it, but I knew death like fire's not good. My mom ain't there no more.

9:53 Speaker 1: She just had to drop me out of a fucking window, right, This isn't normal.

9:57 Speaker 2: As flames are like basically like at the door, you know, and you know, you talking sacon minutes, minutes you're talking, and she just let me second and now the flames are where I just saw my mom. So I'm like, she's dead, and that in nowhere. She grabs me and hugs me So what happened is the fire department that I actually worked for, got there just in time, put a ladder up, My sister came down, the boyfriend came down, my mother came down. Yeah, so she got it just in time. So for a few years we were actually homeless, like not on the street homeless, but not in the show bouncing right bouncer from house to house to house.

10:31 Speaker 2: So we happened to end up going to this one house and that was where I first Well, no, that wasn't my first, I'm sorry. My first paranormal experience was a few months either before or after the structure fire. Where we're standing in a in a very very busy coffee shop diner in the middle of the afternoon after having lunch, and I start talking to somebody that I can see to somebody as a matter of fact, and my mother looks at me and goes, Vido, who are you talking to? And I said, and I asked him his name, and he told me his name, and she she goes, who I said, His name is Eugene.

11:09 Speaker 2: She goes, excuse me, and like, he says, he's grandpa. She's like, how do you know his name? I'm four. You don't know your grandfather's name. It for that you that's been dead for twenty years, you know what I mean? You don't know his name. I knew his name. And the part that really freaked her out was he's standing with somebody. He's standing now. Back in the day, blacks and whites didn't get along. They didn't they didn't hang together, right, Yeah, very uncommon to have a black guy and a white guy that were friends.

11:39 Speaker 2: He was standing there with his best friend. As a black man. I never would have known that, never would have known that. I believe, as a matter of fact, I believe it was after the fire because I'd never seen pictures of him, and all of the pictures of like me and baby pictures and all destroyed gon so I'd never seen a picture of him. And then a year my mother broke down and tears like because how would I have known this as a four year old kid, that he had a breast a best Now this is eighty one, so black and white people talk back then, but we're talking fifties and sixties.

12:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're really fresh out of the Civil rights.

12:15 Speaker 2: So, you know, blacks and whites they didn't hang together. Yeah, you didn't see that until you saw Archie Bunker and Joe Jepson on TV kind of a black guy and white guy, and it was basically the same relationship with My mother tells me it's like they just they were just best friends. It just got a lot of best friends. And she that blew her mind when I was standing there talking to my grandfather and his best friend.

12:34 Speaker 1: Do you think that that fundamentally may have done something to her where she goes maybe the world's not so black and white it could be. Or do you also think she might be like, fuck, my kid says they seeing ghost, this is weird?

12:51 Speaker 2: Probably guess probably no, But I don't. I never really knew my father very well. But from what I've been told, my father could do really really strange things.

13:00 Speaker 1: What do you mean could do strange things?

13:03 Speaker 2: Like he could do a lot of the weird shit that I like, he could he.

13:06 Speaker 1: Took an Epstein weird? Are you talking like like.

13:10 Speaker 2: Like project himself out of his body? Weird? Like he would be Oh, he would be sitting next to his brother, okay, while his brother's drunk driving home, Like, yes, his brother is drunk, but he would be sitting next to his brother having a conversation with his brother, but he wasn't really there. And again, I don't know if these stories are true. But when I started having a relationship with my father years later, my that family started telling me identical stories to what my mother told me. And my mother was never around these people at the time she's telling me these stories, so they would tell me these weird stories about him, Like one time he was laying on the floor and he just raised the couch with my uncle and aunt on it with one arm.

13:48 Speaker 2: He just lifted it like it was white as a feather, and my mother said he was turning like white, and then she felt she jumped on top of him, and then she felt something go through her and out the window, and he lowered the couch like you just yeah. And I don't know how valid this shit is, but again, these are stories that I was told since I was a kid about my dad.

14:10 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, So where'd you grow up, Jersey? How far away are you from? Well, like, what's what's the closest military base?

14:21 Speaker 2: So I'm twenty five minutes outside New York City, so it's far relatively far. My father did serve military.

14:27 Speaker 1: Them, by the way, he was a navy I don't know what he did.

14:29 Speaker 2: I would I would love to have.

14:31 Speaker 1: There might be a story there that you don't even.

14:33 Speaker 2: Know, probably my father since deceased, for since Jesus.

14:37 Speaker 1: Like montalk and all that shit, that's what sounds like you're describing is mon talk so stibility.

14:43 Speaker 2: Since I was a kid, I've had pre cog stuff that I've been able to do. I I you just saw that the dog was doing the weird shit with the ghost.

14:52 Speaker 1: I've never seen that before. I've honestly got you ever seen.

14:56 Speaker 2: If there was something something here I could feel it. I would. No, I don't feel anything yet, but that doesn't mean that I can't be here. Let me be here a little bit longer and I'll.

15:05 Speaker 1: Tell you, okay. I don't know if I like that.

15:08 Speaker 2: I was a kid. It scares the shit out of me to be blatantly honest with you, like it. Literally I'm fifty. I think I've said this to you before. I could fight an alien. I think the alien might kick my ass, but I can't fisfight a ghost like. There's not shit you could do about it.

15:20 Speaker 1: Well, we've you know, not to cut you off here, but in the spirit of in this of going back and forth. Here the paranormal. For me, it's like it's where I draw kind of a line in the sand, and.

15:35 Speaker 2: I'm very very like you don't believe it, or like it scares you or you're skeptical.

15:41 Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit of both.

15:43 Speaker 2: I'll get it. Listen. If I didn't, I didn't see, but I've s if I didn't see this shit myself and experience it, i'd call myself crazy too. Well.

15:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were out the Bridgewater Triangle and we almost didn't go that night. I almost called in a night like I was like, I really want to go to bed, Like I really, I'm tired. You've been our all day. And they were like, we're gonna go to the random dog Track and like last something said like you gotta go, and I was like, all right, we're gonna go, and we end up going. And that night was probably the closest thing I've ever felt to a paranormal experience outside of being the thing that happened with my mother on her deathbed.

16:30 Speaker 1: I don't even know if I consider that paranormal. I just saw an orb in the room when she died. Is that paranormal? I don't know. That's what I think. But that night, dude, the moon. It was the first night we were in Bridgewater. And there's a big backstory. I don't want to bog the story, bog it down, but there's like a whole thing that sends us to Bridgewater. The first night we're there. It's this big ass harvest moon. It's so close you could you feel like you could throw a rope around it, like Jim Care you pull it right, and and then and then we're walking through like just complete darkness inside the Bridgewater Triangle.

17:14 Speaker 1: And and it was uncomfortable. It was uncomfortable many times where I felt something like coming up through my back spine in my neck. Yeah, I don't he's not usually there's something

17:32 Speaker 1: like up there too. It's weird.

17:35 Speaker 2: I could feel.

17:35 Speaker 1: It's the jeans snoring in the other room.

17:39 Speaker 2: That's definitely not it. But no, there's something here.

17:41 Speaker 1: Look chill, bro I wonder if this is a live show.

17:44 Speaker 2: There were cameras here, I'm telling you.

17:47 Speaker 1: And people thought of crazy, this door, this door. I was staying. I was right there, I was sitting right there, and I was editing, editing a clip I just made right. I just made the clip so watching me and in the in the clip, I'm watching myself, but then I click over to a live feed of myself and this door just whips open. Yeah whips and I'm just like, WHOA, what the.

18:20 Speaker 2: But yeah, like an anxious tingle's it's very hard to describe.

18:25 Speaker 1: See, I always think I always tell it like and people have got people have said like they always think the podcaster that talks about UFOs can't possibly have either seen a UFO, Like I saw a UFO when I was younger. But if I saw one now and I say like I had contact, people are less likely to believe me now that I do this show then if I didn't. You know what I'm saying, because now I have almost like a an incentive to two. I have an incentive to tell stories. Yeah, so I I there's something I Yeah, this is a very this is a very unique thing that's happening here.

19:09 Speaker 1: Logan. I need you to I need you to sit down because we're gonna have to bring him next door because this is too much. Can we can we take a quick break, guys, We're just gonna reset.

19:20 Speaker 2: I'm good with the dog. He's not bothering he's.

19:22 Speaker 1: He's bothered me. He's bothering the fuck I love this mother. He's seeing something.

19:28 Speaker 2: I think that this is great for the life because they animals see ship that we don't.

19:33 Speaker 1: I think that most people watching probably agree.

19:35 Speaker 2: And this is can they see him doing this? What he's doing?

19:39 Speaker 1: They saw him when he was sitting here and he's standing up.

19:42 Speaker 2: On the here for an hour or two. I've never seen him perk up like that. Like, but yeah, since I was since I was a kid. My first my first that I remember was that time in the diner. There's been numerous that have scared me to the point where like I block it. That's why I said, I can't see them now. Unless I really let my guard done, then I could start seeing ship, but I don't. It scares me.

20:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would freak me out. So, okay, four is your first time that you see something, and.

20:10 Speaker 2: Then the other time and then it starts a lot. When we moved to this When we move into this part, we take over this apartment. So my mother's best friend lived there and then she moved out and we and we stayed behind and took over the apartment. My sister went upstairs. This is a Christmas time and you know, I'm I'm a very intuitive kid, Like I knew Santa Claus wasn't real.

20:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that, you know what I mean.

20:32 Speaker 2: So I used to like I would go and I would find the presidents and I had terrible little holes and see what it is and there, you know, it was whatever. So that's what I was doing. I was, I was upstairs. I knew my mom hid the p h hit the presence of my sister's room. And there was a room up there. It's an attic like this like picture like basically two apartments like this back to back, but attic wise, and there was an unfinished part that I would always see a man with a blue and gray striped shirt and he would try to wave me over to him in the attic, and I knew not to go something.

21:05 Speaker 2: At first I was going to go to him, but then something was just something was off, so he would try to wave me to him and I wouldn't go.

21:14 Speaker 1: Really, did you have a face? Did you have any definition?

21:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he looked like a typical like seventies guy with a mustache, like shaggy hair, blue and gray striped shirt going across, almost like a polo, but not quite like bigger, bigger stripes.

21:29 Speaker 1: It's almost like prison.

21:30 Speaker 2: And he would wave me no, it was a normal shirt. It wasn't prison like a prison, and he wouldn't try to wave me over to him. I wouldn't go. So this particular time, I snuck up there and I figured I'm not going to that room. I'm gonna be safe in my sister's room. And she catches me up in the room and she starts talking to me, and she's we're like this, face to face, right, and my back is to the door, and she's in front of me. From behind me. Now I'm talking to my sister. I see her. I'm speaking to her from behind me.

21:59 Speaker 2: I hear who are you talking to? And it's my sister's voice. Yes, you're hearing this correctly. What I thought was my sister is not my sister. It smiled at me, this fucking evil, evil smile, evil smile, and I'm like I turned around and I saw my sister walk through the door, and I lost it. I was balling, crying, balling crying. I think I'm about six six and a half at this point. Because we've been homeless for a year and a half tude years balling. I turned white and when I turn back around, it's not there.

22:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, and my sister like again, had my sister not seen this? Like there's I'm losing it. And then ever since then, I've been able to kind of like shut it out and not see stuff as much. And I've learned to kind of block it because it petrifies me. We used to see things in my aunt's house. Doors would open, doors would close, we would see my grandmother in the backyard. Yeah, I've experienced a lot of a lot of weird paranormal and then come into the firehouse. Firehouse is haunted.

23:03 Speaker 1: Of course it's haunted.

23:05 Speaker 2: It truly is. No. This one's from the eighteen hundreds and yeah, and numerous people have seen these things. I've so I've talked about it on my gaming channel. I've got a bunch of videos. Yeah, yes, on the gaming channel. And one of the first ones was was me So we we have the way that the dorm, Hey did I show you the dorm? The dorm is like a big orphan in storms what it looks like. And then you have captain's rooms that line the wall. And this I was still a regular firefighter, wasn't a captain at the time.

23:33 Speaker 2: I was sleeping on my bed and I heard the light clicking and there's nobody in that room. Yeah, light just goes click, just clicks on, Like oh my god.

23:44 Speaker 1: Like come on, you're like here too, come on, No.

23:48 Speaker 2: But this is this is called this is this is this is a year and a half ago. So I've been on for thirteen years now, is I've been I know this play has been haunted for the last time. Oh okay, So like sem it's just like god, damn it, Like are you kidding me? So I'm like, fuck, it's gonna bother me with that light being on. So I got up, I ran to the bathroom real quick, came back on the way to the bathroom, shut the light off, and ran back to the bed like a little bitch because it was scared of me. Right, So what I didn't know was to other people seen it, so it wasn't just me that witnessed it.

24:16 Speaker 2: So I have the video and the guy. You can see the video, and the guy's weird.

24:20 Speaker 1: So you've been Have you ever had like a like a brain scam, well not even a brain scam, but have you ever been like evaluated psychologically.

24:34 Speaker 2: I'd like to, though actually the fire department doesn't do that mean psychologically, like.

24:39 Speaker 1: To see if you like I'm not even saying like like to see if there's something wrong with you, because I don't think there's something wrong with you, but like I know that there's other there's people that have gone through tests and they find out that you know, their brain, you know, they have access to more than it, more than on their or.

25:00 Speaker 2: Now my wife, my wife just did a big like comprehensive.

25:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, like really they have really like detailed.

25:06 Speaker 2: Ones, really comprehensive. So I actually want to try something.

25:09 Speaker 1: Have you ever talked to like also like a medium.

25:12 Speaker 2: Oh, I'd like to. My wife has spoken to a medium and they've said some ship that like you know, has been kind of different, Like I wonder.

25:20 Speaker 1: If they can feel that you have like a history with it.

25:23 Speaker 2: I've also had pre cog stuff from when I was a kid, like so we I was second I was in second grade, and we you know, when you're in second grade, they take you to the bathroom like at certain.

25:33 Speaker 1: Times in the day or yes, I remember, we're going to.

25:36 Speaker 2: Do they were going to take us to the bathroom, and then I envisioned my classroom with bubbling skin and I didn't know what it meant and crying, and then I threw a fit. I'll explain it in a second. I threw a fit, and then the teacher listened to me, and I said, bad things are gonna happen. Bad things are gonna happen. Please, no, no, no, don't go to the bathroom. I don't go to the bathroom now in our place at January ended up going to the bathroom in a steampoat pipe broke away as soon as he walked in the bathroom.

26:05 Speaker 2: Oh my god, burned him and that would have been the kids getting burned by steam pipes my classroom. WHOA, that's so my teacher brought that to my mother's attention.

26:18 Speaker 1: So what how did that happen? Is it like that's a raven you know where it's like I'll just or is it you just like daydream it almost I just see it.

26:27 Speaker 2: That happen a lot, but it happens in big pivotal moments in my life, like if I know that something I sometimes I know something is going to happen, or I know something is not going to happen, if that makes sense, Like I can't predict, oh this is that, but I know, like I can see it, Like I knew that I was getting promoted this time, whereas the other times that I was told. I know, it sounds silly. I knew it wasn't happening. I knew it wasn't.

26:52 Speaker 1: That time that it was going to happen.

26:54 Speaker 2: I knew it was going to happen at some point, but it wasn't going to happen then. Stuff like that. I just just it's weird.

27:00 Speaker 1: It's almost intuitive, like it's almost Yeah, that's a very interesting dynamic.

27:06 Speaker 2: I'm not saying like, oh, I have these magical powers because I don't want I just want to be normal. I don't I don't want this ship.

27:12 Speaker 1: But if it is normal, and what if society has just constructed because you would you agree with me in the sense that reality is if we want to break it down here, right, what is reality? What's reality? We all agree that this is reality.

27:32 Speaker 2: Or at least this is what is reality.

27:34 Speaker 1: Right, But even when it comes to theological things like are we alone in the universe? Are we the ghosts exists? We all kind of make even though it hasn't changed yet. Most people, they know that we're not alone in the universe. But again, put them face to face with the UFO and they may freak the fuck out. Right, that's the reality of it. So the census reality is that, you know,

28:06 Speaker 1: the world is kind of black and white, right, You get on the city train, you get on the city bus, you get off at your stop, you go to work, you pay your bills, YadA, YadA, like the fantastical stuff. Consensus reality, it really hasn't caught up to that yet. So, yes, we agree that you and I agree that UFOs exist, but not but the consensus is that the we're the minority. In that case, you.

28:34 Speaker 2: Can't be the only thing in the universe. We are, especially with how much life is actually on this planet alone. Yeah yeah, great, statistically impossible for us to be the only thing. But in this universe.

28:47 Speaker 1: And what I'm getting to here is the fact that okay, one plus one equals too.

28:52 Speaker 2: Right, Well, it depends on who's doing the math.

28:55 Speaker 1: I know, if Terrence Howard's doing it, we have a problem. But if I taught in schools, and I taught, and I and I and I told every single person right that one plus one equals three. If I swayed the narrative, if I got public opinion.

29:15 Speaker 2: With me, I mean, there's plenty happened with you.

29:18 Speaker 1: You can sway the truth, right, And that's what I'm getting to. The truth is merely consensus of reality. It's a consensus. So Johnny Depp and Amber Heard walked into that trial, the public had already decided Johnny was going to be the Johnny was innocent and yes, so public perception is it doesn't matter that one plus one equals to If everyone in their mother, if the media, if the deep state have all said it's three, does it really matter that it's two? Or do we just defeat that it's great? No.

30:01 Speaker 2: See, I'm very defiant in the case that I like the truth. I don't like lies. I love the truth. So to me, the truth matters. It doesn't matter if the truth is harsh or hard pill to swallow. I want the truth, you know what I mean. It's just like with this whole this this crazy stuff with Epstein. If it turns out that Epstein is a lizard space alien, I want to know. If it turns out that the Grays are abducting human beings, and skinning us alive, and we have a deal with the government and blah blah, blah blah blah.

30:28 Speaker 2: You know what. That sucks balls, But the alternative is the entire planet gets enslaved as opposed to whatever the deal is they made. So I want to know the truth. I don't care what the truth is. Just tell me.

30:38 Speaker 1: What what if it's the darkest shit you've ever heard.

30:40 Speaker 2: I have a feeling it is the darkest shit I've ever heard, and I think it's going to be, especially after because we've been bringing up the Epstein stuff. When you delve into those Epstein files and you start going down those rabbit holes, you start seeing what they're talking about, and you know, never Caaprino allegedly had call himself a cannibal.

30:56 Speaker 1: He's get it. He's get I learn him very fast learning get it. I I give him a hard time, but.

31:02 Speaker 2: I'm a big free speech guy, and I know the slap laws. They can't really get me too much, but but I get it. I'll throw the word allegedly out there. I'm reading these damn emails and I'm like, Okay, this guy is eating jerky and they're talking about it's kid skin allegedly.

31:13 Speaker 1: This pizza gate ship has gotten crazy?

31:27 Speaker 2: Is the true?

31:32 Speaker 3: During the frogs day, it's the truth.

31:37 Speaker 1: By the way, I was gonna saying, by the way, the frog gay thing turned out real, that's soup. It was real.

31:45 Speaker 2: Pull it up, it's crazy.

31:46 Speaker 1: Pull you'd have to go on jeans computer ship. No, yeah, typing gay frogs bring it up.

31:55 Speaker 2: Well, No, there's a couple of frogs.

31:56 Speaker 1: That like that, and they can switch.

31:59 Speaker 2: They can switch.

32:00 Speaker 1: Leave it on a long shot. When you go off, you.

32:03 Speaker 2: Can eat a monitor right there so you can see it.

32:05 Speaker 1: We have one. It's in the other room. But yeah, that's what I usually have my IP so I can see the chat. So you and and then you have to if you go up, if you pull up, that's where that is. It's an extension of the screen, but it's it's like layered on top. Sorry, folks or.

32:28 Speaker 2: God, I'll interact with your audience since I'm here. Yeah, if you guys have questions in the chat, feel free to ask. I will answer anything. So, yeah, like we were saying, if you if you look at like anything that was considered taboo or crazy or whatever, or like you were saying about and I'm not trying to get political, but if you were saying, how you know, whatever the narrative is that's pushed. It's the same thing with Trump, Like I understand he's a controversial figure and people can't stand the guy.

32:55 Speaker 2: But you ask the average person why they don't like him, and nine times out of ten they can't tell you the reason why or the reason they give you is something that was bullshit and' light about. So it's it's it's insane to me.

33:06 Speaker 1: Jean's computers locked, and Jean's computer's locked and we can't get into it.

33:11 Speaker 2: Mikey, I don't touch whistling board wija boards, no, thank you, I don't. I don't like the paranormal stuff. I don't like it. It scares me.

33:18 Speaker 1: So you wouldn't talk to the dead well boards.

33:22 Speaker 2: I don't know if they're I'm afraid of getting a hitchhiker.

33:24 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're real. I don't think boards.

33:27 Speaker 2: I don't know if they are, and I don't want to know.

33:29 Speaker 1: You I find out.

33:30 Speaker 2: Because it's just the weird ship that I've seen, you know, So.

33:33 Speaker 1: Okay, back to you. You this pre cog ship, you have, pre cog you're seeing the paranormal. What age do you find out that not everyone's seeing this and you're kind of unique?

33:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when I was four and realized my mom couldn't see it, you know what I mean. And I've always been very very aware, very attentive to what's going, very like alert, just like very intuitive. Since I was a kid, like like, I should have been a detective for Fo's sake, I should have gone into police work.

34:08 Speaker 1: Do you take that?

34:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, because of how my mind works. My mind works like a detective, like I picked things apart and I can't see.

34:14 Speaker 1: That's how I am too. Yeah, I like to put a good buzzle together. So it sounds like, you know, you were kind of inquisitive, you know, I think what I really do, and hear me out on this, I don't know. I'd love to get your take. Do you think that if someone is a hard skeptic, right, and if they are adamant that UFOs do not exist or say that they have a religious bias, do you think they have the ability to see a UFO if it's there.

34:44 Speaker 2: That's a good question, and it's ironic that you asked that because when I finally saw my first UFO, which was when I was filming the drones last year. I went back and I looked at the footage to that, because I've never really done that. I was reading the transcript because I was trying to find where it was. I'd realized that five minutes before I saw the UFO, I said, I want to see a UFO. I've never seen one. I really would like to see one. And then within five minutes I saw what looked like a disc aerodessin on the sky.

35:13 Speaker 2: And I explained this. People said, what it looked like when you say aerodescent. If you take the blue Force ghost glowy from Star Wars Return of the Jedi, how they were blue and you make that color white and you put it on a night sky. That's the color that I saw that the disc was. So it looked flat like this, and then it turned sideways and it was shaped like a sea flew across just like that and just vanished. And I'm like this with my phone in midflight, just I could see it, and then I could not gone, and I was I was attempting to move my phone in time, and I missed it.

35:45 Speaker 2: But you hear me losing my fucking mind. On the camera like I'm to lose. I couldn't believe what I just I'm forty eight year old man. I wanted to see a UFO my entire I mean my entire life, and I had just witnessed one, and I wasn't considering what I thought was orbs to the UFOs because it looked like balls of light to me, but I couldn't really tell because they were so high up.

36:05 Speaker 1: And then someone, you know, that's always the problem, But.

36:07 Speaker 2: That was undeniably not an ORB, not a drone. That was a goddamn UFO. And the shape of it is what threw me off. It was ce sea or boomerang shaped, and it was flying with the.

36:20 Speaker 1: Opening boomerang like that interesting.

36:26 Speaker 2: Turned sideways and then just vanished.

36:29 Speaker 1: Wait a second, I'm sorry. It maneuvered before it flew, like it turned. What does that sound like?

36:39 Speaker 2: Like it was saying, hi, right, oh, what does.

36:41 Speaker 1: That sound like? Go deeper? I don't know, gimble footage.

36:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, when it turned, yeah, when it pointed its belly towards it and went yeah yeah, Like it literally went.

36:54 Speaker 1: Belly first flight. It's almost like it has to do it.

36:59 Speaker 2: But it was looking flat and then went this way, and then that's when I can see what the shape of it was, right, but it wasn't disc shaped, it was see and the opening was going that way.

37:09 Speaker 1: Which falls in line with the things that we've heard that what essentially is happening is it's tilting belly first, and then you know it's it's creating this like heart shaped electromagnetic field around it, and then it's almost like falling through space and time, right like if you put the you know, a bowling ball on a on a bed and then use your hand to push down, right, it's gonna it's gonna roll with you. And then you know you start talking about but but that that falls in line. That sounds exactly like that.

37:50 Speaker 1: So it almost sounds like that's what you saw it. You saw it getting ready to whatever, go into warp drive like whatever you want to call it. It does that to get ready to blast.

38:01 Speaker 2: I don't know it was and it wasn't like it took off it, it just gone.

38:05 Speaker 1: Well, that's how mine was too. It was a disc like.

38:08 Speaker 2: It went invisible. I couldn't see it anymore.

38:10 Speaker 1: After that, yeah, and that's pretty common, you know.

38:14 Speaker 2: And then five minutes after that was the helicopter that flew. Are you talking, I'm on my high film.

38:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, this craft as well.

38:24 Speaker 2: The craft I missed, the helicopter I got. And the worst part was I was I was live streaming vertically right, So I had never live stream vertically before. He was sentenced to eighteen months in Palm Beach County Jail, but ultimately served only about thirteen months work release privileges, despite rules against it for sex offenders, Epstein was allowed to leave the jail for up to twelve hours a day, six days a week to work cows. Special conditions. Reports indicate he was housed in a private wing of the jail and was allowed to leave the jail for extended periods.

38:59 Speaker 2: Can you imagine doing what he did and being allowed to leave. I would be thrown under the jail. You'd be thrown under the jail. God knows what would happen to her. Bubba's bitch, right, Yeah, yeah, I would be Yeah, I'd be exactly. I'd be Tyrone's bitch, just taking it like like just just taking it.

39:16 Speaker 1: Well, you're a bigger guy, you know, you might be Bubba.

39:19 Speaker 2: I'll fight one or two of them off. But come on, bro, let's face it, I'm getting gangbanged. Yeah, I'm pretty faced. But how is this guy allowed to leave? And then how is it that he's convicted for all this crazy shit and you're still talking to him as a senator? How is it he's allowed to text a sitting senator while she's in the middle of a hearing and he's answer.

39:35 Speaker 1: Asks for himself.

39:40 Speaker 2: Make it makes sense?

39:41 Speaker 1: It doesn't. There's no way to make it makes sense.

39:44 Speaker 2: I get it. People don't like Trump. I understand completely. If Trump is involved in any way, shape or form, I want him to be the first to go. But with the way that it looks, it looks like Trump was not involved. But if he was, I need him to go. But that's the reality is is that you know it looking to be the guy didn't have anything to do with it.

40:02 Speaker 1: So what do you think? Why do you think Glaine is still alive?

40:09 Speaker 2: I think i've Steen is still alive.

40:11 Speaker 1: Where do you how? How did that? How would they have done it?

40:15 Speaker 2: They just found out on Joe Rogan that the epstein that we know didn't have a prostate has prostate removed the epstein that was laying on that corpse thing. How to prostate it was prostate, was normal size and irregular or on unevent wherever it is word to use for that. Yeah, you could look that up. As a matter of fact, you could pull up Joe Rogan talking about it. How about that one.

40:37 Speaker 1: So there's discrepancies in the yes, and.

40:40 Speaker 2: He's got a tat, he's allegedly had a tattoo in his left arm, a barbed wire and the body that was layer didn't have this. Their claiming that Epstein was wheeled out of there the day before and that that's that's that's a fake body. And if you look at the the facial features and stuff, it doesn't look like him. Yeah, there's a good chance that still. Listen, if this guy, do you think you think he is? Do you think that he's gonna stay in prison? Well, and then the autopsy said that it wasn't it wasn't hanging, it was strangulation.

41:09 Speaker 1: Do you think that he was powerful enough to get out of jail?

41:12 Speaker 2: He's powerful enough to leave jail whenever he needed to or wanted to the first time.

41:17 Speaker 1: No, I know, but this is on it, This is like, yeah, that's a I mean, so, okay, so is Glaine in jail?

41:28 Speaker 2: I don't think so that the lady that they just showed that that does. I mean, they had any how many AI that doesn't look like her, that don't look like it didn't look like Elaine was Listen, Elaine was a fox for an older woman. She's a foxy pedophile, evil monster, but she was. She was hot and sexy, like I see it, you know what I mean.

41:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, the jail will do a number on you.

41:48 Speaker 2: You know, she's living a sweetheart deal. She's not doing hard time.

41:52 Speaker 1: No, I mean, in fact, they transferred it to a very cozy kind of.

41:57 Speaker 2: So it ain't gonna be that hard on her in prison.

41:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, and get cars. Yeah.

42:03 Speaker 2: Besides, her facial structure is completely off the AI to check it. It was completely straight off, completely a home in on the street and freaking in Montreal, Canada or wherever it was, and it looked like her and his brother.

42:14 Speaker 1: Weird.

42:16 Speaker 2: No, God walks in and goes Elaine, Oh yeah, she used to get me good pizza. And she's standing there. It looks just like the Delane we know. And the dude that's with her looks like her brother.

42:26 Speaker 1: Interesting.

42:27 Speaker 2: Interesting, all these links are.

42:30 Speaker 1: So what do you think? Okay, what do you think about the idea of the deep state transcending, because obviously we have to talk about things like Mossade and intelligence. Who do you think is behind Epstein?

42:49 Speaker 2: I think, listen, if it's.

42:52 Speaker 1: Not is it Cia?

42:53 Speaker 2: Is it, it's it's it's probably a combination of everything. I mean, at what point do we not realize that the CIA and Mussad are probably the same thing and probably go hand and hands. At what point do we.

43:03 Speaker 1: They hate each other? Every agent that I've ever talked to c I A. They can't. They can't stand them as far as they can throw.

43:13 Speaker 2: Them as So, at what point do we realize that Israel is more than what they're they're claiming to be. And I'm not an I'm.

43:21 Speaker 1: Not Well, they're the only country that's able to lobby and not have to register as a foreign lobby.

43:29 Speaker 2: I'm not anti Israel anyway, shape I'm not Jesus, I love Jewish people. Is nothing that I just I think that Israel is not our friends. I think they haven't been for a long time.

43:41 Speaker 1: Well, every time that young comes here, we're then we're always lining up to our attack Iran. I just don't understand why we do the bidding of a country that is the you know, we have a state that's probably bigger.

43:56 Speaker 2: Our representatives should not And again, yeah, citizenship. I think it's disgusting that.

44:02 Speaker 1: They concerns me.

44:04 Speaker 2: It's got to go.

44:05 Speaker 1: It concerned any any foreign nation.

44:07 Speaker 2: This goes for any has none to do with Israel. Any foreign nation needs to get the hell out of our affairs. It's America first, not any other country first, and that's what it needs to be. I'm sorry.

44:16 Speaker 1: Sadly, lobbying has become as part of the political process as insider trading, and you can't get away from it unless you change the laws.

44:25 Speaker 2: I said, we're scaring the ghostuff.

44:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, the ghosts, Like I'm done with this. You guys are talking about Epstein. I saw him the other day. He is dead Trump and he left. So but back, did you know that Epstein was really really interested in work the work of like Eric Weinstein time travel, yes, not time travel, well, yes, but physics STEM, let's just call it STEM.

44:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, eugenics, yeah, big time.

44:55 Speaker 1: Well that's what I was going to get to. There's this story and it's told by lady. Yeah, there's a story of shouldn't you be switching the cameras.

45:14 Speaker 2: She was researching.

45:15 Speaker 1: Buddy, Yeah, there's no TV to research on. So there's a story and it's from a guy. And I don't know why I'm blanking on his name right now. He's done Jesse Michaels a bunch of times now, but Danny Jones as well. God, I can't think it was David.

45:33 Speaker 2: Uh.

45:34 Speaker 1: It's gonna drive me. No, he's a uh shit shit shit shit shit. Anyway, he's telling a story about Glaine and how obviously Jeffrey had like servants around and they were all female. Well Glaine had all male, and all the males that she had were Nordic looking, and they would continually say their hair was missing from the dream and who else?

46:09 Speaker 2: Who else would take the hair?

46:11 Speaker 1: Who else would take the hair? And who else would want? Why would you want Nordix? Why are you cleaning the ocean? And this again, it brings us back to this idea of.

46:20 Speaker 2: Do you think you think Eleen was some type of alien somebody or form like?

46:23 Speaker 1: No, but her, fuck I think of her. I think that she is. She was in a long line because her father, Robert Maxwell, He's responsible for ninety percent of the books that get distributed into schools. He owned the publishing company. He owned the curriculum.

46:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's where the rothschilds.

46:48 Speaker 1: He owned history, Japie Morgan.

46:50 Speaker 2: They all started the education.

46:52 Speaker 1: Thing and also funded the Nazi Party. Again, circling back to this idea of this blonde hair, blue eyed race that you are emulating, right, I think they're seeing these Nordic beings and I think guys like Hitler just like this is going to be very very very much of a hot take literally, but I think guys like Hitler just like the Pyramids and the cargo cult, the idea of a cargo cult, the all of that. I think what they're doing is they're trying to emulate what they see, and they see this advanced species, the Nordics, and they want to create an aryan race that looks just like them.

47:44 Speaker 1: So all they want is blard air, blue eyed. Then you know what I mean again that what if Maxwell is just the latest in the line of that lineage, that idea we know that the Nazi Party, the ideals of the Nazi Party. He did not die, uh huh, yeah, people that.

48:05 Speaker 2: I was That's why I was leading to ask you your comic than correct.

48:08 Speaker 1: Yes, you know the story of hydra Yeah, cut one head off.

48:11 Speaker 2: You know the story of Operation paper Clip, don't you.

48:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, they brought not well, the Russians and the United States were and it wasn't just scientists.

48:20 Speaker 2: Do you not see what that is? Yeah, you could strong case over our government.

48:25 Speaker 1: Well that they were then running.

48:27 Speaker 2: He was in charge of was in charge of mass Yeah, who was in charge of the Adam bomb and all that other crazy ship.

48:34 Speaker 1: Who killed He was in charge of the Automa.

48:37 Speaker 2: He wasn't. I thought he was working on it was it Wonner von Brom working on that.

48:42 Speaker 1: He might have been. He might have rocket itself. No, No, I mean he worked on the Saturn five, which became h that advisors what took us to the Moon. But I think he didn't advise on the Maybe he advised that. You can look up on your phone. Did he advise? Did Werner von Braun advise on the Manhattan Project? Because that was Oppenheimer right, But I don't think. I don't, But I think weren't.

49:10 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe didn't. That stuff didn't everything to do with NASA spawn from the Manhattan Project.

49:16 Speaker 1: That could be right.

49:17 Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying, Like he had ties in in for sure.

49:22 Speaker 1: Bob dropped the bomb dropped, and then we took them over. So there's no way Werner von Bron could be working on the atomic bomb.

49:31 Speaker 2: Okay, right?

49:32 Speaker 1: Wait?

49:32 Speaker 2: No, no, no didn't we don't wait.

49:34 Speaker 1: No, he dropped it and then brought them over.

49:35 Speaker 2: But we did bring a lot of German scientists. Yes, yeah, so you better believe those German sized were fucking rolled right into NASA for sure. Yeah.

49:42 Speaker 1: And there was a bunch of Nazi sympathizers in the US.

49:45 Speaker 2: But I firmly believe that like that, that Nazi Germany didn't lose like we thought he did.

49:50 Speaker 1: No, they a lot of people think they went to Argentina, for sure.

49:53 Speaker 2: They did. Yes, Hitler, Hitler went to Argentina for nothing, right now, Sure Hitler went to Argentina. There's pictures of them.

49:58 Speaker 1: You don't think. You don't think Hitler died? No, you don't think a lot of people died?

50:04 Speaker 2: No?

50:04 Speaker 1: No, Well, I mean, do you think Biggie died? Fuck you, Sugar Knight.

50:11 Speaker 2: I don't think that was Sugar Night. I think it was Puffy. He was worth more dead to to Puffy, worth more.

50:17 Speaker 1: She knows because I'm always listening to these fucking uh the either lately it's either been wrestling or rap documentary.

50:24 Speaker 2: And I think that I think Biggie found out about the homosexual stuff with Puffy and he didn't like it, and he was gonna get away from it, and then he got taken out.

50:33 Speaker 1: Well, he also wanted to album.

50:35 Speaker 2: That album did better for Puffy than it did for Biggie. Puffy made the music store during that time.

50:40 Speaker 1: That Puffy made this whole thing about this big ass fucking funeral and then made the estate pay for it post mortem.

50:53 Speaker 2: Post Yeah, he didn't care about He didn't care about.

50:56 Speaker 1: Oh you didn't give a fuck hold everything for Ready to Die and straight pivoted into that funeral that that puffed that that puffed out. He used that as a launch pad for that song for himself because his album was coming up. Yo, He's a fucking scumbag. I hope that I puff p Diddy, Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein. Sorry that there's a commonality here. Suge Knight, Oh you you're all. If there's a hell, you are going to rot in it, you motherfuckers, because you are. You are the incredible personification of evil.

51:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, personified. But we're getting off on a tangent here. But yeah, I I I'm with him. I hold Sugar responsible.

51:49 Speaker 2: For Tupac're getting dry home.

51:52 Speaker 1: By the ghost. Gene is dead, Jean's dead. I think I get to come to the bathroom. Back to you. So when do you decide you're forty thirty forty? When did you start wanting to create content?

52:15 Speaker 2: All right? So I ended up getting like this arcade cabinet. Yeah, this seems silly, but I got I got this when I was a I grew up very very poor as a kid, I mean very poor, and I never got to experience arcades as a kid. So the one thing that I saw one of my best friends, Gedy, got himself a custom build arcade cabinet, and I was like, holy shit, you can do that. Like that's the coolest thing I've ever seen in my life. So I asked him how much it was. He's like, it's crazy expensive. So I'm like all right.

52:41 Speaker 2: So I saw talking my wife about it and she's like, all right, do it. Go ahead and get in do it. So I got it. And then I was like, oh, well, I can start doing videos and maybe you know, make something on the side, maybe grow a little YouTube channel, and then my wife ended up going into rehab where alcohol is around this time that I started filming and making videos, and it was mainly for me. It was mainly like like my therapy, you know what I mean. It was like a way for me to show my wife that I'm good.

53:10 Speaker 2: You know, we're good, Me and the kids are good. But here's a way where you can see everything that's going on in the house. I just started filming random videos. If I was adding something on the arcade, I just started making a video with me and my daughter. We would do that together. And then it just spiraled from there. I started doing I started really liking the gaming content and doing all this stuff, and I didn't really I didn't really know anything about it. I was doing it with no edits, and I would just do like one take lives and all this stuff.

53:35 Speaker 2: And then I said, screw it. If I'm gonna get into this, I'm gonna like actually get into this and start doing it the right way. So I ended up getting mentored by my buddy Chase Brogan, who had a channel called Retro Gaming Guy. At the time, he was under under one hundred thousand. Now he's at like three three sixty something, he's three hundred some thousand. He's been mentoring me with this stuff, with like YouTube and what to do and all this stuff, and I kind of I take what he tells me and I wrap it into my own crazy mind and I make it happen.

54:01 Speaker 2: And then I started doing the gaming live stream and it's been taken off, and it's like here, I am a channel with like one hundred and fifty people, and I'm getting these big name channels on my show. And it's like I have no business getting these people on anyway, but I was doing it. And I obviously I never shut up, and I have the gift of gab, so I'm able to get you know, these people who have these crazy like chaos moves. I had him on the Jerky Boys, john and Brennan. I had him on the show. We actually told the UFO story.

54:28 Speaker 2: We had Johnny Brennath the Jerky Boys telling the UFO story. So that's what I was just able to do. And then it just I started. I started. I was always into paranorm I was always into UFOs, and I just started mess around filming the drones and then those lives took off. I had like thirteen fourteen thousand views on those lives live streaming the Drones.

54:46 Speaker 1: I pop video that was popping for a while.

54:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was doing real good for my channel too.

54:51 Speaker 1: So I was a good time to be in New Jersey. I got swore rape time to be in Jersey. I'll show you a chat. I can't show it publicly, and I know it's a trust brown thing, but like so, I when it was going on, I messaged a member of Congress and he didn't answer me on text. He answered me on signal and yeah, yeah, And I'm not saying that's like so secure. It's not. It's not, it's not. But he he wanted to make sure that he took precaution and telling me what he told me because he I'm not going to say what he said, but essentially, don't go.

55:29 Speaker 1: Don't go down to Jersey to check this thing out.

55:33 Speaker 2: We could have linked up with me.

55:34 Speaker 1: Well yeah, but the reason he gave was compelling. It was it was compelling enough for me to be worried and not want to go. Unfortunately I didn't.

55:49 Speaker 2: Every time every time I was out there filming, I saw something weird every single time.

55:53 Speaker 1: So are you seeing black helicopters? Like? What are you seeing in the air?

55:59 Speaker 2: So I've seen these things. Okay, So the bullshit story that both Biden and Trump, let me tell you something. Trump gave that story. I was so angry about the hobbyist drones. I don't know anybody with with a fucking fifteen foot hobbyist drone, Like, I just don't. I don't know anybody with a hobbyist drone the size of the jeep that I just came in here today. Yeah, yeah, like, I don't know that. And I don't know any hobbyist drones that could just sit up in that sky for hours and then literally bro as soon as they as soon as it hit dark, they'd be there.

56:27 Speaker 2: Why showed you the one that pulse slashed my camera? Right?

56:31 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah yeah.

56:33 Speaker 2: So anybody like just it's just doing weird shit. Sometimes they would fly weird. They would change sounds. It would go from making what would sound like a plane to nothing or like something different. Some of them would have no sounds. Some of them would be creepily like doing this weird drifting. The one pulse actually I had two poles slash me, but the one really like made up on my phone and flashed it out. So yeah, there was that. But you were asking me about the UFO stuff. I started really getting into the UFO stuff by filming that stuff.

57:03 Speaker 2: The YouTube thing I got into from doing the live stream, and then I just took off and like the stream is entertaining.

57:10 Speaker 1: What the what the drones? A lot of people thought that it was a mix of activity and maybe they were putting drones up to kind of like muddy the water. Do you think something like that could have been going on? I did.

57:29 Speaker 2: I did a video on what I thought they were and it was one of four things. So it's either gonna be adversarial, and I don't think it's adversarial. And I'll explain why. This is the reason. They're being seen everywhere in every country and over every base military wise, China, Russia, Germany, England, brand they were being seen everywhere. They weren't just being seen in Jersey. Oh, They're being seen in Ohio. They were being seen here, They're being seen there. The second thing is US. I don't think it was US or adversarial.

57:57 Speaker 2: And here's why it shut down Key base. Is that should never be able to be shut down? Right Patterson is one of them? Anybody, I'm assuming the guys in the chat, No, right Patterson. The the importance of that Allegedly, that's where they keep a lot of the UFO secrets, the bodies of this that. Blah blah blah. How the hell are you shutting that base down if that has our most secret shit in there, that also has our strongest tech and weapons. Correct, Yeah, how are you shutting that base down? Also?

58:22 Speaker 2: They couldn't even get close to these things.

58:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was odd.

58:26 Speaker 2: They couldn't get close to them. They would fly off faster and you can get to them.

58:29 Speaker 1: It was odd.

58:30 Speaker 2: So it leads me to think that they're one of two options NHI or UFOs or UAP or whatever it is you want to call it. Basically aliens non human or rogue eye something that they that they.

58:43 Speaker 1: Unleashed, oh, or rogue eye AI.

58:48 Speaker 2: They've been getting seen for years, and every time that I saw those things, I saw something weird. Every time ORBS, I've never this they do that. It's weird shit.

58:59 Speaker 1: I've never were considered that that was an option. As rogue AI.

59:05 Speaker 2: I wasn't afraid to be standing under them until I saw that one pulse slash me, and then until I saw Russian videos of the Ukraine War where they were blowing people up with the little drones, and I'm standing under this thing, going wow. So and then they're talking about these things having defensive capabilities, and they were like knocking they were knocking drones out of the sky and things like that. Right, I guess I'm going on. Just so you're knocking things out of the sky, and then they can't even get close to them.

59:35 Speaker 2: So it's like, all right, well, these things definitely have some type of defensive capability, right absolutely, they could probably just delete me. So my kids are wanting to come out and film with me, and I'm like no, because if my stupid, my stupid fat ass mango ass is deleted by a drone, that's one thing. But I wouldn't be able to accept my poor kids, you know, trying to just be out there with their dad. So I'm like, all right, I'll take it on the chin. I'm a fireman. I go into burning buildings.

59:57 Speaker 1: You don't want to let them see a little bit, No, I let see from the house, okay, But bro, I'm in the middle of a football field.

1:00:03 Speaker 2: I got one hundred yards to make it to my car before I get zapped by whatever the hell that is in the sky. You know, I don't need to kill in my kid too, So if my stupid ass gets killed, that's one thing, but not that.

1:00:13 Speaker 1: Right, right, right, We're just gonna take a take a minute break. All right, you can hit the bathroom even though it's live. We'll just uh, we'll pause it for a minute. Yeah, throw in your questions if you can throw in a super chat.

1:00:29 Speaker 2: I have two channels, by the way. One is for UFO and podcasting. That is Vito UFO seventy six on YouTube, and then the other is the Perfect Storm Gaming at YouTube. That's the one that's like, that's the bigger channel. The UFO one is the one I'm trying to take off at the moment. There's like one hundred and seventeen, but I got one hundred and seventeen in a month, so I was pretty happy with that. Yeah, there's a bunch of different interviews and things like that there, but I'm gonna go peezly there any other.

1:00:54 Speaker 1: Room from the break. This has been quite the challenge tonight.

1:01:02 Speaker 2: I'm telling you.

1:01:03 Speaker 1: The challenge. Our producer is uh dead in the other room,

1:01:09 Speaker 1: justice felling and yeah, and then the dog what a live show? Yeah, I know, we're a live show. Probably should have done just as a recording.

1:01:23 Speaker 2: This is awesome, though, dude, I love.

1:01:27 Speaker 1: But now you see why I was a man to lose its place.

1:01:30 Speaker 2: Oh for sure. No, this place is a gem, brother, this place is.

1:01:33 Speaker 1: Our house is over there. This is a different house.

1:01:36 Speaker 2: But what I was saying was, if God forbid you did, then you guys could just rented a house. You know what I'm saying. You could just rented a house and turned a section of the house into like yeah.

1:01:44 Speaker 1: We've done it before. I've done it before, and I just it's not the same to me this. I've worked so long to have this, and I know people watching are going to be like it just a Room's literally, it's not just a room. I can promise you. It's a fucking apartment above my garage. So much so that there's someone knapping in the other room. We're doing a show here. Yeah yeah, yeah. But anyway, so what led you to want to talk to people in this community? Become a part of it, go explore the truth, Like there's always a catalyst moment.

1:02:33 Speaker 2: So I told you about the gaming live stream and the the idea that I always had was I was a big a fan of old school Howard Stern would already and Anthony back. Oh yeah, that was a huge OA. I still am a huge Ona fan, still a huge Still no, still a huge. But I'm an Anthony Coomier fan. I'm a big fan of Anthony Coomee and everything he's doing. As a matter of fact, if it wasn't for Anthony Coomey and Joe Rogan would be doing what he's doing. No, He's the reason that Joe Rogan was like, well if he could do it, I could do it, and he started do his own thing.

1:03:04 Speaker 2: But I always liked that thing. And then one of the things that Op and Anthony had was they had a very interactive feel with their show. Right, So then when I started doing this gaming thing, I started realizing I have the ability to just reach out to anybody and have them on the show. And that's basically what I'm doing. Like right now, I'm working on getting Fred Durst on the show. I had Ashton Forbes on the show a couple weeks ago where he was live gaming with us. I know guys don't like him, but the dude's funny to me.

1:03:27 Speaker 2: He was entertaining, he was cool to be. I tried to get these big name people that you're like, what the hell are they doing on this little show. The key is that I have something, Yeah, I have something different. I'm live streaming from a fifty inch cabinet that has two different screens that I'm capturing that's got three different webcameras that can move anywhere in the room to catch it under the action, and it's very interactive. And I started realizing why I was doing this show that I personally started gaming less and started doing more of the interviews.

1:03:55 Speaker 2: I realized how much I've wanted to talk to people and do interviews. I've been told my entire life that I've got a great voice for radio and that i should do radio. I've been told this literally Numera and a lot of people hear me talk over a loud speaker on a telephone or just in generally like do you do radio, And I'd say no, like well you should. You have a voice for it, and I'm like, oh, it's because I'm ugly, and like, no, you just have a good voice, and that's why when you told me the podcast and that you're doing on the audio side, I'm like, you know what, I should do that because of my voice.

1:04:25 Speaker 2: I get hold that women a lot that I have a sexy voice, blah blah blah. So I'm like, all right, I always always wanted to do radio. I've always had so I'm like, this gives me the ability to do radio from my house essentially. So I'm like, I'm going to do the show that I've always wanted to do. It's going to involve gaming because that's the hook. I'm a gen X guy with this cool arcade cabinet. That's the selling feature. So then the next thing was like I started realizing that I love doing all the interviews, and then I started I was a week on Twitter and I hit up Julian Dory in a DM or in a message, was like, hey, man, would you let me interview you?

1:04:55 Speaker 2: Because I know he's from Jersey. He said yes. Next thing, I know, we're dming. Next thing, I know, he's sending me his phone number. Next thing I know, he's sitting in the house and I'm interviewing him. So I'm like, all right, screw this. I want to do this more often. I want to do this podcast thing where it doesn't matter who it is. I want to talk to you. If you're a gamer, you're paranormal, you're into this, you're into that. I want to speak to you and just pick your brain and have a conversation and see how well it does.

1:05:19 Speaker 2: Like I figured I could do it, why not? So then I just started doing it. It started screwing up my views on my gaming channel. So that's why I split the two channels. Now. Now I've got one for UFOs and podcasting and paranormal and one for the gaming. But the idea is to cross platform them. Yeah, like Jeffrey Nukaatelly supposed to come to my house, I supposed to interview. I want a game with him. I want to put him on the game stream, right, So I want to put jeff Nukakelly and me Arcade Gaming for a little bit for my live game, and then I want to have him for a podcast interview and use both of them to catapult one one to catapult the other.

1:05:56 Speaker 1: That's a good ideas your own little like it's different, Yeah, it is definitely different. It's definitely different.

1:06:05 Speaker 2: Nobody else is doing it. Nobody's doing anything in the gaming world that I am like legitimately.

1:06:09 Speaker 1: Not that I know of, not combining the.

1:06:12 Speaker 2: Whole goal, Like how Disclosure Tonight has that back channel. I want to do the same thing. I want to have like a show behind the show where anybody can come on the show. Doesn't matter if you're a regular viewer. It doesn't matter if you're a big name UFO guy, a big rock star, or just some jerk off down the street. If you want to talk to me, let's go. I want to be that guy. I want to be that approachable person.

1:06:33 Speaker 1: Do you have a Do you have a favorite? Do you have a favorite like UFO, like Case or paranormal case, anything that you like to talk about or tell the story of.

1:06:49 Speaker 2: I love I love the Is it the Penny Penny Urch?

1:06:52 Speaker 1: I don't know. Tell me a story.

1:06:54 Speaker 2: It's the one from Wales that just happened a few years ago where there was just like a war zone that happened. They said it was like a six story high pyramid. They disappeared and the UK government attacked it and they started fighting and there was bad The story is insane. I'm trying to interview the girl, the woman Caz. It was told on the WI Files. The WI Files told the story and that's why I was like, Yo, this story is dope, Like I need to interview this lady. So I've been working on interviewing her story.

1:07:19 Speaker 1: I don't know what the story is.

1:07:20 Speaker 2: You gotta look it up. It's Penny Wales.

1:07:24 Speaker 1: Let me see.

1:07:25 Speaker 2: I'm probably pronouncing it wrong because it's it's Welsh and Wales people pronounce the phone.

1:07:30 Speaker 1: Well. I don't know if I have a favorite case. I guess my favorite case right now. Have you heard Pastaola? Have you ever heard of Pascagoula, Pasca Goula. Okay, well, if we had cameras on the over there, you could see that. I have every single book that's been written about Pascagoula, from Calvin Parker, from my Scott, Calvin Parker again, Philip Mantell, Philip Mantell and Arena Scott, Charles Hickson, Arena Scott again. But my point being, the seventy three case of Pascagoula, I think is one.

1:08:21 Speaker 1: It's one of, if not the most critical abduction cases of all time. I can and I have the evidence literally in this studio somewhere. I've been mailed every piece of evidence that exists, from video archives to tags, and all of the physical evidence, like the there's a few things, every every every interview archive from the news, every news broadcast. They even took. So when the police brought them into the to the room, they left them in there a little while they're interrogating them, and they left them in there for a couple of minutes alone, and they had a tape recorder under the desk, and they they figured that the two guys would be like.

1:09:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, you get their story straight. Yeah, I have. But they didn't get their story straight.

1:09:22 Speaker 1: They're fucking scared to death. I have it. I have the original I have the copy of the original file. Well, I'm making a movie on it. Yeah, but but but I'll definitely share it with you. It's it's you can look it up too. But but well, Philip Mantle's making the announcement soon. But we've been planning this movie for a while and we're finally going to do it. It's beyond a reasonable doubt I can prove in a court of law to appear a peer of a jury of my peers, twelve of them, something on the Pascagoula River eighteen seventy three.

1:10:03 Speaker 3: I'll check it out genuinely, essentially, like I have the river right, So I plodded edited out to a degree where I got the river.

1:10:16 Speaker 1: And I have vantage points from literally twenty twenty some odd people all around who all saw the same thing from different vantage points. Yes, so there's over twenty witnesses and four people abducted and the coast guard involved. Wow. So the cases and Heinich, Jay Allen Heinich for Project Blue Book, was there the morning after WOW. The morning after he was in the eight I talked to Paul Heinick at Contacting the Desert twenty twenty five and I asked him about Pask and he said, I said, gun to your head.

1:11:03 Speaker 1: If you could, you had to choose one case to stake your life on. Gun to your head, And he said passing. And yeah, it's a it's a wild case. Travas Wallens.

1:11:18 Speaker 2: It never changed, it never and and it's like they legit missing him and all the.

1:11:23 Speaker 1: Others, and yeah, they were being looked at for murder. And he had fought that guy, the guy that hated him, guy hated him. He would not lie for Travis if it didn't happen, you know, and they even tried to get him to flip.

1:11:41 Speaker 2: Those are two of my favorite I like him. The Mirabel Italy do a video on that. The Mirabel Italy case, Mirabelly, Mirabel Italy, What happened? That was one of the first Magenta Mira Belly.

1:11:56 Speaker 1: What the fuck is that's my cousin's last name?

1:11:59 Speaker 2: If you the place my wife was supposed to go?

1:12:01 Speaker 1: The guns Legenta nineteen thirty three.

1:12:05 Speaker 2: That one's good.

1:12:06 Speaker 1: That's that case is interesting because not only David Grush brings it up, right, that's kind of the first time we hear about it, but it let.

1:12:18 Speaker 2: I'm listening David and brings stuff up for no reason. So I'm wondering why he brought that out specifically.

1:12:22 Speaker 1: There has to be a reason to get it out there.

1:12:24 Speaker 2: No, no, I know that, But there's got to be a reason why.

1:12:27 Speaker 1: He throw it to the wolves, right, because they're the ones. They're the ones who are going to put the foy Is in right, They're gonna chase it down. So I think that was a tactic to give people a time frame to look for hear me out on this before

1:12:47 Speaker 1: nations and the fake lines, all the fake lines on the maps. Who was even when there was some fake lines on the maps, but there's less of them? Who was judge, jury, and executioner? I'm sorry, Who ruled the lands before modern governments?

1:13:14 Speaker 2: The lords and masters of the kings? Whoever was?

1:13:17 Speaker 1: Who did they report to the priests?

1:13:21 Speaker 2: Right?

1:13:22 Speaker 1: Yeah? You bring up magenta? Right, the Vatican?

1:13:28 Speaker 2: The Vatican had. Yeah, I would love to see what the Vatican has. I would have loved to go down there. They got everything.

1:13:34 Speaker 1: I think the cover up begins with the Church, sure does.

1:13:37 Speaker 2: There's a goddamn alien on the Pope's robe. For Christ's sake, there's a little alien, you know that? Right? He bro he didn't know this.

1:13:44 Speaker 1: We're supposed to and we're supposed to have a guy that's able to bring this up on the TV.

1:13:48 Speaker 2: He's busy, he's hard at work in the other room.

1:13:52 Speaker 1: He's editing clips clips of dreams of he's having and he's snoring like a beast. But I bring it up is because I do think that the Church kind of if there's the three entities, if there's the three entities.

1:14:11 Speaker 2: There's a petroglyph alien on his fucking on his robe and it's been there. Yeah, it's a real petroglyph that's legitimately elsewhere in the world, and it's on his robe. There's a lot of UFO references in uh in those times. There's a lot of alien and UFO references all throughout the Bible, both in pictures, depictions, et cetera. And you better believe this is Smithsonian. The Vatican have a lot of ship that they're not telling money about.

1:14:42 Speaker 1: So what do you think about? What do you Okay, tell me more? What do you think as far as what why do you think? So what do you think happened with Magenta? Do you think that the Church got a hold of it and they couldn't figure it out?

1:14:58 Speaker 2: Church got a hold of it, the Church thought it was Nazi tech. They showed it to Nazi Germany. But when Nazi Germany got when Nazi Germany flipped and got and got taken out, the Vatican and Italy decided to flip. That's when they gave it over to the United States government.

1:15:13 Speaker 1: Wasn't it well, they gave it to apparently they gave it to the Italian government. They gave it to the Mussolini but then Mussolini relinquished it to the United States government. Maybe I'm getting the maybe a detail wrong. Maybe it went to the Vatican and then the Vatican surrendered it. But I think the Vatican if we were to able and some people have claimed that they've been able to view some of what's been in the archives. Danny Shean, right, Jesuit Taylor, Tim Taylor, Diana Pasokat interview her so bad getting getting lime.

1:16:04 Speaker 1: Brother Jacques Valet also, I think I believe, I believe. I'm not quite sure, but I know Danny Sheen has done it, and Danny will be in studio by this summer. Danny's such a wealth and knowledge. I've had him on multiple times. Guys so so good. Yeah, but Lakatski is such a like Corbell only nap only for now. But we've all tried, We've all every podcast, even Michaels has tried. Jesse, So, I mean, I like your enthusiasm, brother, I really do. You're talking to the king of persistency man again, I think, and we we talked about this as a firefighter.

1:16:54 Speaker 1: You're not a religious man.

1:16:57 Speaker 2: No, No, I'm I'm I've okay. So I've obviously I'm Italian, So I've grown up Catholic, you know, not by choices, kind of like you're gonna you're gonna be You're gonna be Catholic or else. You know. It's like, all right, I'm Catholic, Jesus Christ Catholic. I'm just not. I'm just not very religious, if that makes sense. Just not. I've become more spiritual in the last few years, more of like a more karma type thing, you know what I mean. Like you, we try to do good because I don't want bad to fuck me over, especially with what I do for a living.

1:17:24 Speaker 2: So eight because it can go to ship real quick.

1:17:27 Speaker 1: Have you ever been in a building and something bad happened to you?

1:17:30 Speaker 2: I felt my balls my first structure fire fell right one leg through the floor up to my balls, and I picked myself back up and then went in there.

1:17:39 Speaker 1: You're near death experience?

1:17:41 Speaker 2: No, no, thank God. No. But I don't really the fire stuff. I don't really delve into too much. I see a lot of weird ship.

1:17:50 Speaker 1: Has it anyone that you've worked with had an experience where they were trapped and maybe they not and out of body experience the like, is that something that they even talk about that.

1:18:04 Speaker 2: Don't talk about that stuff. No, No, guys have talked about the ghosts in the firehouse. A lot of guys talk about that stuff all the time, but like, no, there's nothing.

1:18:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't. We don't talk about that stuff. Gray Zone.

1:18:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had a thing where a guy got lost and he got pulled out of the building by another dude. Yeah, that's happened.

1:18:22 Speaker 1: But like the other stuff, do you want to hear a story? So there's a firefighter and he is he he's the first into the room, into the building, and it's a full on structure fire, like multiple alarm. I don't really know how I remember that part. I know it's multiple alarm. Don't know how that works.

1:18:52 Speaker 2: The alarm basically just means you need more resources essentially, So the bigger the alarm, the more resources.

1:18:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like a multi family house.

1:19:00 Speaker 2: Big but the size of the side. Listen, you could have you could have the smallest house in the world that can go to six alarm structure fire because it's like you need that and you could have the biggest bill in the world and it doesn't even go to a single alarm.

1:19:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, quick, So this is like a big yeah. So it's a it's a turnout, right. He's the first one in there. They break the door in, the door goes down, they rush in. He's on his way in when the roof collapses onto his him and someone else, I believe, so.

1:19:37 Speaker 2: The roof of the structure or the ceiling.

1:19:40 Speaker 1: The ceiling above them came down right as they enter. He gets knocked out. In the limbo, he's near death. And this is why I bring this up. He's in a near death experience. No, he says, but he's in a limbo and the lady they're looking for he's talking to her in this in near death experienced space and he's like kind of confused, and she just keeps saying under the door, under the door, under the door that they just kicked. He comes to and you know, some minutes of past and he he wakes up and all he's like raspy because obviously smoking intulation.

1:20:33 Speaker 1: They're getting him up, they get you know, they have oxygen, and he's like under the door, like he's you know, bro. They she was at the door, they kicked it down on top of her. It fell, she died, burned bad. And when he got knocked out, he sees her and she goes, yeah, she's confused. Probably I'm dead. So he's almost dead and they're like, hey, I'm.

1:21:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, they met, they met in the in between and limo basically, So I can tell you.

1:21:14 Speaker 1: What that's a fucking crazy store.

1:21:17 Speaker 2: As a firefighters, what happens. A lot of times people are found literally at the door, Like they die at the door. They get they get there. You can't because people people see these these friggin' movies and they're like, you could see you know, you can't see ship, you could know what the inside of this building, of this.

1:21:32 Speaker 1: Room, it's black smoke.

1:21:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're talking Florida ceiling. You can't see a fucking thing. The minute we open the hose line, now the room goes white. Now you can't see anything really, And that's uh, you know a lot of times people get this ooriented and you could know the way around, be trying to get out, and you're trying to get into the bathroom. You die there because that's what happens. So I can, I can. I can assure you that he probably didn't kill her with the door. She probably unfortunately died and then when he knocked the door on because she was burned already.

1:21:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were going on. Now they're all going on top of it, so she's unfortunately.

1:22:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially with the way that people live, you know, you're supposed to crawl, but I work in a not I work in a very urban area, so like, you're not crawling because of the conditions. And I'm not judging anybody. People live differently, right, Yeah, So some people have a lot of stuff, some people have little things, like there's minimal things in here. Somebody else might live in here and you can't even walk.

1:22:26 Speaker 1: Yeah, you come into that a lot.

1:22:29 Speaker 2: Especially in urban areas where you have a lot of people in a small area. And it's like, what happened the day with the fourth of July. Yeah, we pushed the door in. I had three structure fires in one day. Push the door in. We go to go in and my guys starts trying to crawl. You get the fuck up. He's like what, I'm like, stand up on your feet. You are not crawling in this apartment. We were just in that apartment. It was it's fucked up. There's shit everywhere. I'm like, no, some falls.

1:22:56 Speaker 1: On top of you.

1:22:57 Speaker 2: You die that way. Yeah, kind of. Yeah, they just had a lot of stuff.

1:23:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people.

1:23:04 Speaker 2: End up dying behind the door. You find out a lot we're in the under the beds.

1:23:07 Speaker 1: So what do you think that, like, if you're not religious, what do you think that after spaces?

1:23:13 Speaker 2: I don't know.

1:23:15 Speaker 1: So I think I think that's fair.

1:23:17 Speaker 2: I think it's kind of And that's a that's a good question because Mike just asked that question in the chat. How are you not religious?

1:23:22 Speaker 1: But you I'm not saying you believe in spirits?

1:23:25 Speaker 2: And the question that I get asked all the time. I believe I believe in ghosts and spirits because I've fucking seen and spoken to them and if I hadn't, I probably wouldn't. As far as religion goes, it's kind of tough for me because I'm more of a like, show me bro type person. I want to see it, I want to name and you know, from the people that I've spoken to in this in this world, in this in this community with UFO stuff, they're telling me a lot of the stuff's connected to religion and that Catholicism is the way to go, and that's what's great.

1:23:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what's crazy to me is a buddy.

1:23:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're pointing you towards Yes, did you see it?

1:24:01 Speaker 2: The answer?

1:24:02 Speaker 1: Yeah? But did you notice that that's happening a lot lately. You know a lot of people are going.

1:24:09 Speaker 2: And a lot of these people in the UFO world are converted to Catholic.

1:24:12 Speaker 1: Rogue, all of them like Valley sweeping through.

1:24:17 Speaker 2: You know, Rogan's been spoken those two about some ship.

1:24:20 Speaker 1: And I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, Hello, no my face. Has anyone noticed that? And I'm not knocking it. Beginning of Jesse Michaels's episodes, they'll be like, they'll reference the prayer that they opened the episode with, but it's not on camera. MM, So they're praying before they're starting their shows, Jesse Michaels. And I'm not saying anything about Jesse.

1:24:50 Speaker 2: Isn't Jesse Michaels Jewish? I don't know. I thought he was Jewish, So wh would he be open with a Catholic prayer?

1:24:56 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're doing a Catholic prayer, it's not on camera. They but they always refer to the pre that like they're like, oh, I like that we did that. But Jesse's I can't no, but but think Jesse Peter Teal because he's investing money for Peter. He's very connected to Peter Teal, and Peter Thiel's doing seven hours about the how he's definitely not the anti christ.

1:25:31 Speaker 2: I'm definitely not him.

1:25:33 Speaker 1: Not a one part episode, but four fucking you know for a long second, dude, he fucking hesitates. And there's that there's that interview that Peter til did with that guy. That's the worst. That was the worst ever description of it. He did that interview with that guy where but the gentleman asks him. I don't know what media it was, but he asked him. He goes, should humans because talking about AI, should he humans? Like the whole transhumanistic thing? Should humans have a future? Peter fucking what would be the answer?

1:26:15 Speaker 2: Should be yes? With no hesitation, Like before the question even comes.

1:26:19 Speaker 1: Out, yes, Peter goes, well, yeah, we'll.

1:26:24 Speaker 2: Stop programming terminator. Motherfucker.

1:26:26 Speaker 1: H Well, that's a complicated question. And I was like, what a complicated question? A very easy question? Should humans have a future?

1:26:39 Speaker 2: Yes? Unequivocally yeah, answers yes.

1:26:43 Speaker 1: But he he fucking he didn't say no. I mean he didn't say yes. He said that's a complicated question. It was not, and then he.

1:26:53 Speaker 2: Gives us some not complicated I'm trying to kill his weirdo, and.

1:26:55 Speaker 1: Then he gives us four part series about Now he's definitely not anti christ any, but he's also got government contracts for companies like Blackrock, which are making AI that are killing people, not by you.

1:27:14 Speaker 2: Know, fine people, very fine people on both sized background.

1:27:17 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, but these are these are dudes with PlayStation controllers, right, taking out villages of people without But but the AI is really doing it. It's the AI that's pulling the trigger. It's that's the facial record. It's using that to put it pick up facial recognition to you know. It's essentially we are literally headed to some sort of military state. I don't see how it's avoid

1:27:45 Speaker 1: do we do? What do we do when they start putting cameras in every city?

1:27:54 Speaker 2: You show your rebellion? Brother?

1:27:56 Speaker 1: All right, what's happening the ice? What's up with ice? People are people are and regardless regardless. I don't throw aside, right, I don't. I don't pick a side. I don't chew aside. But okay, but we go start we go start smashing cameras every time they putting it up. You don't think that they're gonna be like, there's a major right, let's barbedier around this.

1:28:21 Speaker 2: There's a major difference between what's happening with ICE and a police state. What's happening with ICE is not a police state. Ice is beginning, No, it's not. Ice is attempting to correct an issue that the previous administration decided to do, and that was let's open the border and flood the country with anybody and not vet them. And I don't have a problem with immigrants whatsoever. I am from a family of immigrants. My grandfather came here on a book. But there's a right way and there's a wrong way to do it.

1:28:50 Speaker 2: Coming through a flooded border with military age fighting men is not the way to do it coming through the border with a family. Right now, With that said, the the immigration process needs to be streamlines and a little bit better, and it needs to be easier for families and hard working people to come here, a lot easier, you know what I mean.

1:29:07 Speaker 1: I don't think you should be easier, I think you should be more accessible.

1:29:10 Speaker 2: More streamlined. Essentially, a lot easier streamline lines. Let me correct the.

1:29:13 Speaker 1: Wording, but what if you're a criminal and immediately that is Unfortunately what happened is a proven fact that Venezuela opened their open their freaking.

1:29:23 Speaker 2: Jails and let the people out, and they all came here, and they were all pointed here, and unfortunately, our tax dollars paid for all of its million people unvetted into this country.

1:29:34 Speaker 1: Sarah Adams on Sean Ryan, very very smart analyst, very very smart analyst. I think she might even be like an all source analyst in the private sector. But she said that the current, the the current no known cells of terrorists in this country exceeds like eighteen hundred.

1:30:01 Speaker 2: Yeah. Probably. Yeah, you had a video over right, Yeah you don't know who I am, but you will. A Muslim looking guy was like, you don't know who I am. If you know who I was, you'd be scared shitless.

1:30:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you will.

1:30:12 Speaker 2: So this is the guy who walked across our border and God knows.

1:30:15 Speaker 1: Where he is, right, these are people that are in our country right now that could and and she says that they're planning the next nine to eleven. But the next nine to eleven is is going to be. Yeah, it's going to be nine to eleven. But there's there's multiple layers to it. It's like they want it to be waves that do not stop. That's what they're saying is and that's why they've they used the open border. That's what worries me at night is a boat the bad actors.

1:30:47 Speaker 2: Listen, how tough would it be for them to get a bomb over here? You know it's and let's face reality, look at what's happening all through Europe.

1:30:53 Speaker 1: With these You don't have to get a bomb over here. You just have to get here and then.

1:30:57 Speaker 2: And make a bomb. And then that's because you know they're bombing. Sweden has regular bombings. It's just like a regular current. Oh it's a bombing today, no big deal, Like are you kidding me? A bombing like outside somebody's apartment just blows up for no for no fucking reason, just boom because you don't believe in But that it's insane to me.

1:31:15 Speaker 1: She's talking about this thing. And again take this with a grain of salt, but this is an analyst who is now being I think she has her own show on Sean Ryan's show Network, which is becoming a thing, and Sean Ryan's like serious, like that that dude, say what you want. That dude is the real deal. That dude is the real fucking deal. Anyone who told anyone who talks about him says he's the real deal. So he's one of those guys. You're like, all right, and she's talking about this plan that was actually devised pre nine to eleven, but nine to eleven got carried out and now they're kind of like putting things together and the cells are getting more more more opper, like smarter, they're compartmentalizing more.

1:32:12 Speaker 1: So even if you catch this guy, he literally doesn't know the full picture. So you could torture him till you're blue in the face, till he's blue in the face, he can't eat, he doesn't know shit, and that they're they're like, that's what's wrong with our intelligence community is they don't think that these people can adapt. They don't think that these people can get smarter to things, because again, these are the same people that showed us doing jungle gyms. That was like their workout, like you know the videos, the you know, like the marine commercials, that's what we put out.

1:32:49 Speaker 1: The iraqis put out like them on a jungle gym, and they were like, see what we can fucking do? Guys like yo, you see that jungle gym? Fucking shit. But we we've again, I think what we do is we underestimate and we don't think that these people can evolve. They can and they're here. Now what do we do now? Should we be pulling home depot workers out of home depot or should we be finding those people and ripping them out of the country because.

1:33:22 Speaker 2: Because they're not just okay, so what they're what they're see what what what you just said was was the reason that I say the media is fucked up because you're trying to make the people that are getting left pulled out of here as being oh, just innocent people. Of the people that ICE is arresting are hardened criminals, pedophiles, child rapists, people heard people, et cetera.

1:33:42 Speaker 1: I think the numbers came out on that as like twenty percent.

1:33:46 Speaker 2: It's the other way they're bullshitting. You can't trust the media the MEETI is when lying, they're lying, okay, But even in general, if you're here illegally, you broke the law. Every every country is allowed to have sovereignty and ruling.

1:33:58 Speaker 1: Oh, of course naturally, But really the country that is one of the strictest immigration laws there are, and we're the we're one of the only countries that honestly, if you're not, if you're if you have any nationalism or pride in your country, it's not a good thing. You're your own flag in your own country. And if you're too American here you get labeled a white supremact. It's weird, but it's it's uncomfortable. Back to the to the ship.

1:34:29 Speaker 1: All I'm saying is there we need to be careful moving forward because this AI thing, I think we're running when we should be walking. And with the advancement of AI in the private sector.

1:34:44 Speaker 2: Social AI started their own social media page they have like it's called multiple.

1:34:50 Speaker 1: And do you think China is not someone's not using this in a bad way like some sort of some sort of terrorists they've been on the whole time, yep, for sure, But why are they just kind of change color? Why you don't think that they're using AI as well to their advantage. Of course they are, so again, I think we have to be careful that like and and and honestly, like false flag operations.

1:35:18 Speaker 2: Well, somebody said it in then chat the other day. The reason why the United States can't stop with the AI is because China and Russia won't. They won't like it's it's just like with the with the the.

1:35:30 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we watched that.

1:35:32 Speaker 2: But why Trump pulled us out of the deal with the whole the green bullshit, the Green New Deal or whatever it was. He pulled us out of it because we were paying more money than everybody else, but we're.

1:35:40 Speaker 1: Producing less waste.

1:35:41 Speaker 2: Like why are we paying more than than India and China? They saying three times the amount that we're paying less.

1:35:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, when their footprint was like four times Yes, so was that?

1:35:49 Speaker 2: So it's the same thing, like why should we We're obeying the law and what's right for humanity. And meanwhile, God knows what China and Russia are doing, Like Lord knows the kind of dangerous, I mean, type of crazy world ending things that they almost done. You're talking about a race of people that decided to just let off how many nuclear bombs in our own planet and think it was okay just to test the mod's blow it up on the ground. Now, let's blow it up in the water. Let's send it out to space.

1:36:16 Speaker 2: We did that the United States.

1:36:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, we did.

1:36:19 Speaker 2: It's insane, we all did. It's not okay, they're crazy.

1:36:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're past this country that they are going to do something to us. Do you think who do you think killed daf.

1:36:30 Speaker 2: The CIA combined with Israel and the banks because he was going to basically break ties with Israel and he was going to get away from the FED, wasn't he.

1:36:42 Speaker 1: Well, he's going to demand to release the.

1:36:45 Speaker 2: UFO STU and he was going to spread the CIA to the world. He was also going to drop the UFO stuff.

1:36:49 Speaker 1: What he wanted to partner Russia.

1:36:52 Speaker 2: China and Us to get together for the UFO stuff so that we advance as a race of people as opposed to as a nation.

1:36:58 Speaker 1: He wanted us to partner with the Rush. Yeah, he wanted us to partner.

1:37:04 Speaker 2: It's all connected. That's why I think Trump released JFK MLK, then he did Epstein, and now he's gonna do UFOs. Because it's all connected. You're going to see it.

1:37:16 Speaker 1: With all of it. With all of it, there seems to be this convergence of some sort. So like if all of what we've talked about is somewhat true. Right, Are you sure that we're we have some sort of contracts with a non human intelligence and we're just doing this shit and they're just letting us do it.

1:37:38 Speaker 2: How do you know they're not behind it?

1:37:39 Speaker 1: Well, if they are, then that that's crazy.

1:37:42 Speaker 2: How do you know that they're not what's behind Listen, there's something that's keeping black people hating white people, and Jewish hating, the Muslims, the Asians hating this one. So this one, there's something that's keeping it for a reason. There's a reason that's happening. It's to keep us distracted and keep us hating each other while whatever the hell it does that the media does it for sure, but there's something behind that. The media just doesn't wake up one million go how can we make xyz people hate each other?

1:38:08 Speaker 1: No?

1:38:08 Speaker 2: I understand for the stories, yes, but you know it's but what kills me is how people don't see through it. That's what kills me. That's what that meme that I post is amazing to me. A one percent that control the world four percent through their bidding. Five percent are awake and see what's happening, and they try to wake up the other ninety percent. That is the greatest meme ever and it explains everything you're seeing.

1:38:28 Speaker 1: Well with the news. And we know Project Mockingbird.

1:38:35 Speaker 2: Is happening right now thanks to a bomb.

1:38:37 Speaker 1: And most likely has been happening for you know, decades and decades and decades. And it's very uncomfortable to me that out of the companies that own media conglomerates, there ultimately is only like seven companies that have that own all the media in the United States. And those people, again we talk about consensus reality if those people are the news and they're also the billionaires, and they're also the ones lobbying for change and for these laws to be changed in their favor so they get more tax breaks or whatever.

1:39:23 Speaker 1: I mean, how is how how does anyone let this happen?

1:39:31 Speaker 2: Because they're just controlled, just like obviously they got.

1:39:36 Speaker 1: We're just content to sit around and let let let let the one percent just beat us.

1:39:42 Speaker 2: Here's here's what happens. The minute that CNN and I'm using CNA as as as a reason because they're they're historically known to have lied, and I'm saying Fox News doesn't they all lie? The minute CNN starts telling the truth about everything, including what Trump does and what he doesn't do, and just in general. That's when you know that the tides are change. But until then, the deep state still has this stranglehold on the media, and they're going to run and how they see it. The reason that people aren't angry about this stuff is because they're not told to be.

1:40:09 Speaker 2: It's just like I said, you asked the average person why they don't like Donald Trump, they can't really tell you. They'll give you some bullshit story that's not the truth. And that's that's what I've dealt with. And then you say, well, this is the real and then you get into an argument with them and you get called the cult leader and all this other weird shit. I'm like, I'm I just want the truth, the truth, period. That's what I want. Was the twenty twenty election stolen? It's starting to look like it, did I think it was?

1:40:34 Speaker 2: To begin with?

1:40:35 Speaker 1: Yes, allegedly, Well the show we structured it today. I didn't even find out you were coming to Boston until this morning.

1:40:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, cause I texted you guys late last night because I didn't decide to do it. My wife heard her back.

1:40:50 Speaker 1: I was literally that right now, like yeah, I got off.

1:40:52 Speaker 2: He's like, oh fuck, all right, I'll change everything.

1:40:54 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, because you.

1:40:56 Speaker 2: Guys are like when you come in, when you come in. So I'm supposed to be coming up this way again next month sometime. But my wife was actually going to be in this area for something with my daughter. My wife couldn't hurt herself, So what kind of man would I be with? My wife is injured and I make her drive five hours to Boston, So you know, I sacked up. I'll take Tina and you stay home on your ass and look sexy and send me like half nudes. There's she is, she's in the well. Brought your technical issues, Yes, it does seem that I brought my technical issues my life.

1:41:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't had technical issues once. Well we've had technical issues, but not in succession with every single camera. Oh no, every every camera malfunctioned.

1:41:40 Speaker 2: To say, Livestream used to have audio issues. It would free audio, it would freeze, and I turned to find out it was the damn computer. It was the motherboard was shot. I brought it to best By four times and finally they found out what it was and they had to give me home the computer.

1:41:54 Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, definitely sends some super chat so we can pay the lighting bill. So I do want to say this if we can go to my angle. Wait one second, I gotta pay the bills here.

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1:44:28 Speaker 1: wrapping up because it is almost Yeah, it's been it's been a night. What what do you see, given like presidents, what they're saying, what they're doing, given everything that's going on, everything that you've seen since you've been in we talk about, you know, like a fresh set of eyes, if you will, what do you see as a real, real, tangible possibility for the future. In the next you know, year to two years.

1:45:04 Speaker 2: I think we're gonna get that. I never I never, in my wildest dreams thought that, like I'd be living in basically Star Trek time where we're about to be told about aliens and UFOs if that makes sense to you, you know what I mean, Like, never in my wildest dream And it's like, of all the time periods for me to be born, I'm born in a time period where I witnessed the Trade Center fall, where.

1:45:25 Speaker 1: Like, you know, shit, we forgot to get to that in.

1:45:28 Speaker 2: The last forty years. I think the Trade Center was an inside job. I do not think that it was whoa, I think an inside so I do not think that it was next time you come, that will for sure. But I don't think it was the demolition. I think they knew it was gonna happen. There's there's no coincidence that it's just like the Just like with Trump getting shot in Butler, it's not a coincidence that CNN and MSNBC decided to cover. It's the only thing they covered was him getting shot at Like, come on, bro, it's the same thing.

1:45:57 Speaker 2: All these people decided not to show up to work that day, all these big ones flock out the.

1:46:04 Speaker 1: And then the Israeli squad.

1:46:08 Speaker 2: And I believe, yes, the Israeli, the dancing Israelis. I believe firmly, nine to eleven happens. To change the world, nine to eleven happens.

1:46:15 Speaker 1: Some people say that Project Bluebeam already happened.

1:46:18 Speaker 2: In Obama or as as the president, because he was, you know, the first African American president blah blah blah blah blah. But a lot of really fucked up things happened under him, as far as like surveillance, the deep state, et cetera. So I think he was putting in an office for a reason on purpose. Listen, he's he's documents sealed. Nothing is really known about his past. You've got to him the burg. You ever look at the diversificate thing them do? Who like does this stuff for a living? Yeah?

1:46:46 Speaker 1: No? But what seven years later?

1:46:49 Speaker 2: It doesn't. Rome wasn't built in a day, bro. They started planning the freaking pandemic five years ago, six years ago, or I'm sorry, even before twenty thirteen. They started planning the pandemic, So it was planned. It's in the file.

1:47:02 Speaker 1: So what Republicans go to war, they look bad. Then you throw up. By the way, I lived on winter Hill. When I lived in winter Hill, I lived right around the corner from where Obama lived when he went to Tufts in this area or I think it was toughs. I think he went to one of the colleges, but people lived all around, and it doesn't matter where it is. Tufts is also in Summerville, but I forget what school he went to, but his apartment was right around the corner. He's an interesting person. I'll say that I voted for him.

1:47:42 Speaker 2: Listen. I voted for him his first election me because I bought the change.

1:47:46 Speaker 1: I wasn't old enough to He.

1:47:47 Speaker 2: Was the first president that I that I heard in my lifetime that started saying that.

1:47:52 Speaker 1: He can articulate.

1:47:54 Speaker 2: Yes, very very guy guy. Listened. The guy is extremely charismatic. I would love to meet him up.

1:47:59 Speaker 1: Speak so well and then he hits you with the aliens.

1:48:02 Speaker 2: Are real smart, He's funny. He reminds me a lot of the mayor that I that that's in my town. Same same charisma, same everything. I voted from the first election because change. I want to do this. I want to do let's go, Bro. I'm right here, I'm with it. Let's go change immigration, Bob. He was very he was freaking Trump before Trump was Trump. I know they they they Everything he talked about is the same shit Trump talked about. But Trump actually made it happen. That's the difference.

1:48:27 Speaker 1: Obama didn't know they were they were deporting lots of people.

1:48:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, lots of people, lots of people.

1:48:35 Speaker 1: Obama deported more people.

1:48:38 Speaker 2: I think.

1:48:38 Speaker 1: I think Trump now.

1:48:40 Speaker 2: He's going to But the only reason that Trump's got to deport this man, he's because they let twenty million people in the in the in the country. He didn't do that. You wouldn't you wouldn't be doing with this right now.

1:48:48 Speaker 1: But again, okay, so eleven happens is the catalyst to change the world. It's the catalyst that changes the world.

1:49:00 Speaker 2: Everybody the best day of my life in America that I've ever seen U nine to.

1:49:05 Speaker 1: Twelve, everybody, everybody had flags.

1:49:07 Speaker 2: In America America. Now you they were playing communist Muslim running New York City. It's fucking insane to me. And it's not because he's it's not it. It's it's insane to me. This bro, what happened? What happened?

1:49:25 Speaker 1: Seriously, Price is three five?

1:49:27 Speaker 2: I heard, and I'm not shipting on anybody's religion or none of that. But you have a Communist running New York City right now. He's a straight up Communists and rumored to be the son of Jeffrey Epstein.

1:49:37 Speaker 1: There's a picture with his Oh my god, Jim and Epstein bro to be on like just a butterfly. With the fucking theories that you have, it's amazing.

1:49:47 Speaker 2: You're like, you're like pictures, there's emails, dude, look it up. You're okay, wrong, prove me wrong.

1:49:54 Speaker 1: This is the guy you're You're you're on par with Kurt metzker.

1:50:00 Speaker 2: MAT's from Jersey. Yeah, I got to talk to that's for real, all right, I've never asked.

1:50:07 Speaker 1: You haven't heard. He's fucking steach case.

1:50:13 Speaker 2: I'm done. He's the Communist.

1:50:16 Speaker 1: The Jews are coming out of the tunnels and they were Actually Lakewood has been taken over by Jackson and Jackson.

1:50:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, my my wife's family is from Jackson.

1:50:28 Speaker 1: Still crazy, Oh, it's crazy, it's crazy. Tyler. Tyler Oliver is a literal villain to the to the to the Hassidic to the Cidic Jew community. They hate him so much.

1:50:44 Speaker 2: They know him. He can't be there. Get out of here.

1:50:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you mean they own the town?

1:50:51 Speaker 2: Did you go in there?

1:50:52 Speaker 1: You're asking for trouble.

1:50:54 Speaker 2: But that same exactly you're asking for trouble, that same exact thing that you're seeing there is happening in England with It's crazy to me.

1:51:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but you don't.

1:51:03 Speaker 2: You cannot just change a country. You're in a country, you're there as a guest, be the guests, don't be a well.

1:51:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what. I don't want to make this too.

1:51:14 Speaker 1: I don't want to make it too political. But Alex Jones, let's say they're making the frogs kay, So we gotta be careful. We gotta be careful. No, Alex Jones honestly is off the deep end in my opinion lately.

1:51:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, every day.

1:51:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of times, a lot of times. But he's been right a few times, quite a few times. But again, I just think that the conspiracy market is a thing. People love a good conspiracy. So we have to be able to step away from the story for a minute and say to ourselves, really though, what's the likelihood of this given your experience in the world, in your you know, your common sense, right, Like, is Hillary Clinton that that like murderer stuff? No? Come on, do I think that there is things that we'd be surprised when we if we found out that they're real.

1:52:18 Speaker 2: Yes, you you need to start reading some of these emails, you really but you have you heard the frazzle Drip story? Do you know what it is?

1:52:27 Speaker 1: No? Finish shout round out the show with that and then tell me where Peple can find you.

1:52:32 Speaker 2: And from Anthony Wiener's laptop when officers watched his laptop and saw a video called Frazzle Drip. They opened the video and allegedly it's a video of Hillary Clinton and Anthony Wiener's wife at the time, who allegedly had an affair together. They were an item. And this is on Anthony Wiener's laptop. That is basically his Who's Anthony? Anthony Wiener is a representative the government that was look them up, you'll see who it is. So he his wife was running Hillary Clinton's campaign. There's supposedly a video allegedly that the New York police officers saw that show a little girl tied to either an altar or a tree, and Hillary Clinton and this woman are naked and they're dancing around her, and they take a scalpel or a knife and basically cut the little girl's face off.

1:53:24 Speaker 2: And it's basically to instill fear and terror in this little girl. They cut her face off, they peel her face, she's screaming. Hillary Clinton puts it on her face and dances around in the video. They said that these NYPD officers were vomiting and like having worse nightmares, and allegedly all of them are either dead now committed suicide or police officers from New York City detectives that saw this video. Everyone who saw it is allegedly dead. It's called frazzle drip. Look it up. It's supposedly the look it up.

1:53:54 Speaker 2: I feel like you can't see the video, like, but that's allegedly what it was. That's the story behind it.

1:53:59 Speaker 1: It's insane interesting. Are we sure it's not AI?

1:54:05 Speaker 2: This is twenty eleven, twelve thirteen, This is like way back, as a matter of fact, that's the catalyst for finding out.

1:54:12 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, But if all the police are dead, there's no witnesses, no real witnesses. I don't even know who's telling the story.

1:54:22 Speaker 2: The people who have seen or people who have to look into it.

1:54:25 Speaker 1: I will, I will. But could this be some sort of like AI manipulation?

1:54:30 Speaker 2: No conspiracy, sure, but I think that there's truth to it. I think there's got to be truth.

1:54:34 Speaker 1: I think there's truth to Hillary Clinton dancing around in some sort of satanic ritual.

1:54:40 Speaker 2: Have you looked into Yeah, dude, you, oh my god, you need to look into these Epstein emails. And no, no, you need to look at these ept emails. And then you'll start going, what the hell.

1:54:49 Speaker 1: I am a type of person who that's what it is. No, it's not that I don't look at it. It's I have millions, not millions. Oh my god, that was tremendously overstated.

1:55:00 Speaker 2: Yeah.

1:55:02 Speaker 1: I have so many people sending me like I got this guy shout out, he'll listen to this, he'll probably watch this, listen to this. Uh, he's in my phone as Crazy Dave and I met about contacting the Desert, and he just sends me constant videos of like super conspiracy, and I just like it's too much. And then you're sending it, you know, I got everyone else sending it to there's a lot of noise, and I'm trying to look for signals.

1:55:35 Speaker 2: You know, but there's there's a lot of noise in those signals.

1:55:38 Speaker 1: I agree. So if you want me to take it once seriously, say actually watch this and this isn't just fluff. But where can people find you?

1:55:48 Speaker 2: What?

1:55:48 Speaker 1: What do you got coming up?

1:55:50 Speaker 2: I was going to have a live coming up tonight, but I was well, clearly yeah, that didn't happen. So I am on the the gaming side.

1:55:59 Speaker 1: Or I'm just woke up at the end of the show. Jesus, I'm on X that there is no fucking God in Jesus. We were like God and Jesus, they don't exist, you know.

1:56:12 Speaker 2: He's UFO seventy six on YouTube. Is my paranormal stuff. That's the one I'm trying to blow up. So please, if you're subbing to UFO stuff, you want to check that out because they're gonna be there. I'm gonna be doing a lot of stuff you a lot of stuff.

1:56:24 Speaker 1: I'll put in for the podcast and I will update the video description. Have all your links. He literally woke up at the end of the fucking peak.

1:56:35 Speaker 2: Really, he looks so much better. Now look at him.

1:56:39 Speaker 1: Look at this return return of the back dating everybody.

1:56:49 Speaker 2: Hey, Gene, hell of a job producing what happened? Hell of a job? Way do you watch this video and see everything that happens? Really, dude, batteries died this thing. So there's a ghost here. By the way, there's a ghost here. Well, I'll be fascinated to tune in and watch the read. Good. Yeah, my god, you were like a grizzly bear. Oh my god, you may or may not have your left toenails painted. You know. That's all right,

1:57:20 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you very much. Thank you. Stop that all right? Good job. Logan was our protector. Here he comes again.

1:57:28 Speaker 1: Well, um, bring it back to me. We'll put the links in the description. Thank you so much for being here tonight. Thank you. We'll have you back. We'll make it a little bit more. We'll probably won't do it, probably won't do it live. I won't do it live, but no.

1:57:50 Speaker 2: Live's got because because no one will believe all the crazy shit, you have to do it live again, all right, But I want to do the roundtable live like we did last week, like all of us.

1:57:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I wanted, That's what I was trying to get but Gene didn't feel good this it kind of changed. Yeah, do it. But thank you everyone so much for being here and to those who most likely will be watching it in the future or listen in the future, it really really helps. We're doing these impromptu shows. This week's podcast episode is the episode with the UFO Sphere Network with Patrick Jackson all the way from the UK. The next week, shit, who's next week? I don't remember, Mark o' leal, Sorry, mark o leal.

1:58:35 Speaker 1: We are waiting for some papers, Gene and I. We've sent some invitations to some already interested parties and we're not gonna confirm anything until it's actually on the books, but it's looking good. Find some people in that are on the cutting edge of science UAP, so we can't wait to be producing some really you know, just top notch quality episodes and I'm ready happen. F Gene along for the ride and to help facilitate some of these really big episodes. Thank you for doing the cameras, which and jes thank you Vito for being here.

1:59:11 Speaker 1: And uh, we're we're getting this fucking we're getting this party started here in the studio. This is what it's all about. This is where it's all been leading to, so for me, when things go wrong, it's just part of the process. You'll get used to it. So thank you everyone. We'll see you next time. Stay humble, stay kind, stay vigilant.