Presidential Disclosure of UFOs and NHI Ft. Meagan Medick (Reality check)
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Speaker 1: Something has changed.
Speaker 2: I don't know quite what it is, but for decades the subject of UFOs have lived in the shadows, dismissed, ridiculed, buried. But now, as of this last couple of weeks, we have former and current presidents speaking out about UFOs and aliens, openly classified files being declassified, and for the first time, you know, serious journalists on the inside, they're gearing up for something serious, a serious conversation. This topic is fastly moving past theoretical. The question is no longer if disclosure is coming, but when and how close are we really?
Speaker 2: Tonight, I'm joined by someone with a direct view behind the curtain, a producer for Reality Check with Ross Koltart. Her name Megan Medic, and she's joining us live tonight from Los Angeles to help us understand what's happening and what may be coming next. This is total disclosure. Ooh, that's a purple camera.
Speaker 1: How are we doing? Megan?
Speaker 3: Hi? Hi, I'm great.
Speaker 2: How are you fantastic? Fantastic? So, before we like jump into all this, uh, you're at You're in LA You're at the Uh what is it the Conscious Life Act.
Speaker 3: Conscious Life Expo? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, how how is everything there. How's how's it feeling with everything that's been going on?
Speaker 3: It is awesome. This place is absolutely packed. I didn't know what to expect when I got here. I took the five am flight in and kind of rolled off the plane and changed my clothes and ran over here to meet Ross. And it has been NonStop. There have been so many amazing people who have come up to him and asked for pictures with him and wanting to talk to him, ask him what his opinion is of what's going on. Citizens for Disclosure has a table here and they I walked past and they actually grabbed me and they're like, can you help us get a picture with Ross?
Speaker 3: We want to talk to him. And they had like the front page of a news source on their desk that said, you know, Drum says Disclosure is coming. So people are really excited about it, and it's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it truly kind of feels like we're on the brink of something, and I don't want to get too caught up in it because again, like for me, I feel like we've been through this, not this exact scenario. I think this is something very unique, but I'm very nervous to be all in and then have it, you know, be like some shiny distraction to like bipartisan, get us away from the Epstein files, right, like something like that, And some praise those kind of thoughts, But for me also it's like, wait, we've been fighting our whole life for this, Like people have dedicated their whole lives to getting to this truth.
Speaker 1: I feel that we can rejoice a little bit.
Speaker 3: And it's funny the Tigers. When I saw this last night, I was like, so, after all that, all that all we had to do was ask We had what four high profile events. It was a Laura Trump and then an Obama and then a Caroline Lovett and then Laura Trump again and then Peter Jucy you know, says it to the president and kaboom, this went from a taboo topic to mainstream media overnight. So yeah, it's a long fight for just to get the question in front of the right person.
Speaker 2: And honestly, I don't I know. I was giving Brian. I think it's Brian Tyler Cohen.
Speaker 3: He was the one podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah he asked, he was the one to asked her.
Speaker 2: By all of that, and I gave him ship for not following up and then he's you know, he put out a tweet and he's.
Speaker 1: Like, you guys are giving me ship. I didn't follow up.
Speaker 2: Now you know we're on the brink of disclosure. They you know, you're welcome, guys.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I know, I saw I saw a tweet from him last night and he said what have I done? And I'm like, yeah, I mean thanks Pal, Like what a snowball? Huh?
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I mean not to jump too quick into this, but it is obviously something that's on everybody's mind. You know, you're you're I would say, you're a bit newer to the topic, but maybe we can start.
Speaker 1: How did you get involved in all this? Ruckus?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Ruckus what a great word for it. Honestly, the I was just thrown in my boss Andy, who's actually sitting right in front of you right now watching me do this. He was like, Hey, we're going into the podcast space. We have a couple of shows. One of them is you know UFO Alien E. He's like, it's so big that doesn't really need a ton of help, so we need you producing a couple other shows. And then it got so big that it was like, oh, actually, you know, we might actually need some help on this, and Ty, any chance I can get to kind of bash the government, government or hypocrisy, I am like all for it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh you want me to talk about that? And so I first got together with Ross and he so freely was bashing the government, and like you and I might actually have something here. Let's just keep being friends and bantering. So yeah, we just another snowball. We just kind of kept going at it and it's really worked out. So I'm thankful for the introduction for the topic. And I'm so sorry for the people who have dedicated their lives to this who are now getting disclosure when it's been about two year for me, and I'm feeling the rewards already.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, it's not without hard work. So before the cameras, before reality check, you know, I mean, did you ever have like any sightings? Did you ever actually wonder about this, like, you know, could we be alone, Like was this ever anything that was on your radar?
Speaker 3: Oh? Always, yeah, always. I grew up. I grew up in Las Vegas, so you know, area fifty one and was always in our backyard and we were always talking about that. And then you know, like the fifty ones were our minor league baseball team over at Cashman Field. So Alien was kind of like a symbol growing up. And then I actually haven't told this story yet, and I have it in my notes for an interview that I'm doing tomorrow. But when I was younger, I actually saw two ghosts.
Speaker 2: So and I'm like, okay, yeah, I'm gonna stop you right there. We're gonna have to get to that ghost story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'll tell the ghost stories, okay, But I have stood firm my whole life. Like I saw these ghasts. I was a young girl. I was at my friend's house. I was standing in the kitchen. They had stairs that went down down to the kitchen and then right back down into the garage and there was like a basement like hangout room area. And I saw my friend Judy come down the stairs and go down there, and I'm like, oh, I wonder why she's not coming up? Why is he not coming up? And then ten minutes later she comes in through the back door and I'm like, I just saw you go down there, like I saw you go down there, and they and her and her sister said to me, oh, that's our ghost, Like it was like, no, They're like, the ghost looks just like Judy and I that happened.
Speaker 3: I know what happened. And then years later, when I was in high school, I was at my best friend Nicole's house and I saw a ghost come out of one room from the upstairs and go into her bedroom. I thought it was the coal so I'm like, I'm going into the bedroom to chat in the Coole and she is not in there. The room is empty, and I told her mom. I was like, there's ghost upstairs whatever, and she's like, oh, yeah, I've seen that too, So I think, yeah, I am open to this. And then I was in New Orleans fourth of July many many years ago and I sat with a terror card reader on the street and everything that they said to me has come true.
Speaker 3: So I've always fully subscribed to I've always fully subscribed to this. So having opened.
Speaker 2: Minds, it's yeah, that element of the like the trickster though, like like kind of deceiving you right, like it was your friend going in like that is something that I have noticed with the paranormal is that it does it's almost like it is trying to just kind of like not harm you, but like mess with you like it's it's a very weird.
Speaker 3: Why now that you say it like that, Like were those ghosts trying to like get me to go down there? Like was I supposed to follow them?
Speaker 2: I'm I don't know, I believe it's. Yeah. I mean, I won't get into what I believe it is because I think that's kind of off the rails, But I definitely.
Speaker 3: Think we'd hate to go off those.
Speaker 1: We'd hate to do that, right, And.
Speaker 2: So shifting back, I mean you've worked directly, you know, under with Ross, have spoken to intelligence officials, defense insiders, firsthand witnesses. How different is the reality behind the scenes compared to the public perception that that is seen, you know by the public after you know the editing and you know how it out is. How is it behind the scenes with Ross?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, so I can tell you on our show we give you everything. There is very very little we ever cut out if we do, and that would be to only honor a guest who has said, hey, you know, I said something and I'm concerned to kind of about my safety. Now, I wish I didn't say that. I actually don't can't back that up or I spoke on that, and I don't have the person's permission to say it. So that's the only time that we would ever cut something out is to protect people. It would never be for something big.
Speaker 3: Information wise. We give you the full thing. We're not splicing and dicing hot SoundBite here, hot SoundBite there. And that's the why I think Ross's show works so well, because this topic is so complex. You can't do it in a five minute news hit or a ninety second package on the news because you're not getting the full story. We want to give you the full story. And yeah, sometimes episodes are an hour, sometimes they're longer, but we want to give you all of the information because we want you to hear it and aside for yourself.
Speaker 3: And when it comes to the news gathering of it all and the sources of it all behind the scenes, really the only thing that's different is there are so many people who have stories, so many people that want to come forward, so many people that talk to us, so many people that we you know, pre interview with that we're trying to get comfortable with going public. So it's there the stories that you've heard that are huge that you're like, I cannot believe that, like a grusher of Barber et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3: I mean times and by ten. And that's the reality of the situation of so many people who have amazing stories, but you know they're obviously sensitive and tough to tell.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a that's very very that's insightful. I don't think a lot of people really take that into consideration, and they don't really see all the nooks and crannies of what it takes to get someone to come forward, to sit down in front of such a big platform, such a good you know, a huge amount of people are going to hear this, and I think that's something the UFO topic in general has faced for a long time. Yeah, is that fear, the fear of attribution is real, so totally Yeah, what is it?
Speaker 2: What is your experience been with getting amnesty or giving protection to these whistleblowers?
Speaker 1: What would you like to see happen?
Speaker 2: And and uh, you know, just from working with Ross and seeing how you know, scared these people might be well.
Speaker 3: First and foremost, I think that when it comes to things like the whistlepow or Protection Act, it just shows that the government is extremely hypocritical. They want people to come forward. They want first hand testimony, they want first hand witnesses, they want evidence, But then these people aren't allowed to speak or they're not protected if they they do. So for me personally, it's just like, how are we going to give it, get get it to you if these people aren't going to feel safe or protected, because I guarantee you that if it comes to their life or telling you know, most people are going to protect themselves and their and their life and their families obviously.
Speaker 3: But then you know, you have the government saying things like, oh, well, you know, give it to us. We're Arrow, We're going to investigate it, we're going to look at it. And then you have you know, congressional groups. Do you have all these task forces who are trying to collect information, and it's like, well, do you have the information or do you not? Because for the for the common man, the Pentagon, Congress, et cetera. Yeah, they're different, steparate entities of the government, but they actually are still the government.
Speaker 3: So you have these task forces asking citizens to come to come forward, but then you have the Pentagon slash Arrow, who actually have the information, who are basically, in my mind, Arrow is a cover for the cover of you know, we have the information, but we're still going to make you do the rat race of looking for it. But oh wait, you actually can't come forward because we won't protect you. Sorry. So I don't even know if I answered your question.
Speaker 2: But yeah, something I've always found very, very weird is yeah, yeah, I mean I've interviewed guys like Tim Phillips too, and trying to get a straight answer out of that guy was like pulling teeth.
Speaker 1: You know, it was like just say.
Speaker 2: Yes or no, Just say yes. Stop giving me the bureaucracy.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there's a massive red line there. Yeah. The breocracy is endless, and it's you know, it's crappy for people who actually want the truth and are actually working hard to get it because there's red tape that they're never going to be able to cross unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so after hearing so many testimonies, after hearing all of what you've heard in regards to working in this topic, you know, have you have you sought out or sought like, noticed any patterns or similar events, similar technologies. What does that landscape look like to you?
Speaker 3: You know, we think it kind of ebbs and flows, I think, right, now, the biggest thing that we are hearing from people is the ORB phenomenon. I can't even tell you how many emails we get every single day and direct messages on all social media platforms of people reaching out to us about the ORBS. So that's kind of where I feel like it is. The story in the narrative is right now in the phenomenon of how people are maybe being contacted or what they're seeing. But you know, back back in the day, it was all about the tic tac and what is that?
Speaker 3: And before that, you know, you have the flying saucer ideology. So there's all these different forms. Let's not forget virgin the cigar shaped. So I feel like the phenomena has all these different shapes and ways that it's coming to people. But right now, in today's landscape, I'm seeing that the ORB phenomenon is really the biggest with our specific audience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know there's guys like Chris bloodsoe out there. You guys have interviewed Chris or I know Ross has at least I'm not sure if you were there for that one that the Jake Barber the what do you make of do you think people can actually call in ut fos with their minds.
Speaker 3: I had somebody, I literally have somebody messaging me right now on Instagram who's been messaging me all day saying that they can do it and just let me know when and they'll take us out to do it. I think anything as possible, and especially being at the Conscious Life Expo, you are really seeing how powerful the mind is. Of course I would love to see that and experience it myself. You know, when I did experience an ORB back in October, Ross was very clear with me that he thought that ORB had sought me out and came specifically so I could see it.
Speaker 3: But I just don't have enough knowledge of it to say do I believe it or not.
Speaker 2: ORB Soe told this story on Area fifty two about how he had been with someone who you know, was gonna make some stuff appear with his mind, and shoot enough, two golden orbs come over the horizon and then towards the end of the experience, Oh, we didn't see that hexagon. You did say that you predicted, and then the hexagon shows up.
Speaker 1: This isn't the same thing. This is different.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, my experience was different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's so you weren't with that one.
Speaker 3: No, No, I was just on vacation hanging out.
Speaker 2: So what happened to you? What? Wait? Wait? So okay, so you saw an orb?
Speaker 3: Yeah you're yeah, and just full full disclosure everybody, I swear I'm not. I'm just total disclosure. I'm just a normal, normal girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was on I was on vacation in October and it was about sunset time and I was kind of just looking out over the ocean and the big ORB just like came and floated down kind of in front of me. You're super slow, slow, totally transfixed on it, couldn't look away. I just was so in awe of it, and I just kept following it, following and following it, and then it just disappeared, and you know, there it goes. And my husband looked over me. He's like, what's going on with you? You've been gone for a minute.
Speaker 3: And I just looked a him and I said, I just saw up. And that was that simple. It was that simple.
Speaker 2: What is Yeah, going back to what you just said with Ross and saying he said that it sought you out? Yeah, what do you think he means by that?
Speaker 1: I think I know, but I just want to know if you.
Speaker 3: What he means is he's saying that this entity knows that I'm working in this space and knows that I'm working with him, and they wanted to make themselves known to me in the simplest terms, right.
Speaker 2: And I've had you know, I had my own sighting when I was very young, but I had one much more recently when my mother passed away. Yeah, when my mother passed away, was the orb of light. And I'm a little color blind, so I don't know if it was again, I don't know if it was emitting any light like a color, but it looked like it looked like light was bending around it rather than it was emitting any light.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: And it goes out of the room, up and I just watch it go out of the room and up, and then I look back and my mother is no longer in her body. You know, you know when someone's there when someone's not. So I do believe because I was on a bad path and it was like it shifted me. And I'm not going to sit here and talk about myself for the next twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: I would love to hear this. Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: It was like my mother, there's last way of like boom, kick you back onto the right path. Because then I switched my life and I was like, shit, I need I need every answer I can get. Yeah, And all of a sudden, you know that sighting when I was twelve, that became more relevant in my life. And then I started thinking, was I put on this path? Do you believe that that we are slated for fate or destiny or that kind of thing. It's very deep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and first and foremost, I my condolences to you for the loss of your mother and my heart too.
Speaker 2: She also passed away on four three two one. It's bizarre, very bizarre.
Speaker 3: You know what, what year is it, twenty twenty six? Oh, my my dad passed four six two two.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So and these dates, like these things start showing up and it's just very very weird, and I mean it's it's for me again, Like I was on a different path, and it was like her way of like, hey, get back on the right track, right because like you have, you have worked, you have work to do.
Speaker 3: That's amazing, that's incredible.
Speaker 2: You know. Now I'm here and you know I met you at the National Press Club.
Speaker 1: Event for James Bob.
Speaker 2: I always find myself as long as I do the next right thing, you know, morally, the next right thing. I'm in the right place at the right time to walk you know, Bob's house into you know, Nuclear Controller, into the office of Chairwoman Mace after the hearing. So it's like again, it's like, I think we all have a part to play in this, and we each have our thing, and I wish more people in this community could find what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with you more and I'm so glad that you found something, even though it's the unfortunately if your loss of your mother that's pushed you into this incredible place. But I everything happens for a reason, and you know, my father is definitely my shining light. Everything I do is to make James Medic proud. That's literally it. That's my standard in life is when anything that question comes out, the first thing I ask is what would my dad do? What would my dad think about this? Is this going to make him proud?
Speaker 3: Is this the right decision? And it also really brought me back to church as well. You know, life can be extremely busy, and I feel like that part of because I was so busy and making things important that probably weren't the most important thing. You know, there's nothing that I like more than on a Sunday than going to church for an hour. I'm being centered and actually feeling like I'm connecting with my father, and I think that there is a world where the phenomenon and the church co exist, and I'm still really researching that and looking at that a little bit.
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about that.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that, because that's a big part of what I think the next conversation is going to be, right is what let's say. Now, Okay, let's say I don't know. I mean, Obama's talking on podcasts about aliens being real. Let's say he's being completely genuine. Right now, Trump's saying, you know, he gave out classified information. Yeah the Trump voice, I can't really do it, but he gave out classified information. But then the next couple hours go by and he's like, we're gonna declassify it all.
Speaker 2: So there's let's say there is a there there. Let's operate on that assumption. Well, the next question becomes how involved are they? Right?
Speaker 3: Well, let's take a look at how President Trump has handled disclosure so far. Let's look at the JKA assassination documents, and let's look at the Epstein files. These are absolutely massive document dumps, thousands and thousands and thousands of pages with no real order or rhyme or reason. And then it's like here you go, enjoy, and now it is your your job to look through that with a fine tube comb and find the news and find the nuggets, and and then you do with it what you will. So, if we're going to be following that pattern of disclosure where you're you're literally I mean when those Ross's absolute expert in the DFK assassination.
Speaker 3: We've done multiple specials on it and interviews, interviews on it when thank you all rous So when those documents came out, we knew that this was going to be our our story, that we were going to have to do another special one and these things kind of I looked at I started looking at him. I'm like, come again, come again, I think, Andy, what did we do? We were like you get one, you get one through two hundreds, you get two hundred, you get two hundred and four hundred, or just like crap, I like this is this sucks.
Speaker 2: Just you get a file. You get a file.
Speaker 3: Exactly, and I'm like, what am I even looking for at this point? Like the Epstein thing, you can like search someone's name and be like herb or not, you know, like like you know, you can just like you did it.
Speaker 2: There's that j world. If you found that j world site, it's yeah, I'll send it to you. They organized all the Epstein files into like they recreated a Gmail, so you search it just like a Gmail and it's all.
Speaker 1: It's so that is what the Internet was made for, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what.
Speaker 3: Yeah, send it to me. I need to get this person on our payroll before the documentary.
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. Like when I send it to you, you'll be like, you're kind of it's a little nerve wracking to go into this, like because it's a link that you're like, does it looks like a weird link?
Speaker 3: But it just all my information stolen in five seconds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but just it's it's open source and it's the most amazing tool. Like you know, you any like any Gmail. You can search keywords so you can look up and then there's like the starred section is all the files that people have like ranked oh, oh oh, it's an amazing So if someone creepy that.
Speaker 3: I mean truly power to the people. Like, as as tedious as it is and as hard work as it is, I feel like it almost gives a little bit of power back to the people. I mean, this is allegedly a democracy, so it's kind of nice that we can have some information in our hands and make up our own mind. I mean, that's the biggest thing from where wherever I'm sitting is well, do you have an open mind? Are you going to do the research and are you going to are you going to look? I never care, Like if someone was going to make a different decision than me or not agree with me, I do not care.
Speaker 3: I love you anyways. As long as we're doing the research and we're thinking critically, then okay. But I think then you're then you're then you're perfect. I love you. But I think it's probably going to be similar to that those types of disclosure with JFK and Ebstein. There are a couple of things is going on in the world that might make it a little different, but that's you know, a whole other Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, well to the point though you brought up Virginia earlier, right now, when when they saw that craft? Right, and I spoke to all the witnesses. I know that you did too, because I've watched you do it.
Speaker 1: I watched it.
Speaker 3: Did you pop me my questions? Was that you popping my questions?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was me? That was I was actually talking to Carlos and all of a sudden, this boom mic just came over my head with me, No, this is a real story. And I look up and it's like the Brazilian TV because the questions I was asking were so good that they were like, let's get this and I was like, oh nice.
Speaker 1: So I think I'm good for you as you should be, as I should be.
Speaker 2: They they brought up the smell, right, the smell of ammonia, that smell of sell fur.
Speaker 3: Right, we hear that all the time.
Speaker 2: What now the eyes? Now we go to the girls. What do they say they saw they saw a demon?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Red eyes also smelled like fire and brimstone sounds exactly like what demons are described like in the in all of culture. So could we do you believe that there is you? You talked about this merge line. Do you believe that what our ancestors were seeing that they might have misidentified as gods and angels and demons, and that is what we're seeing as aliens.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the case in this specific encounter and this specific sighting, but I do think that that's possible in other sightings. I don't want to get the town of the name wrong, but I think it's Spain. These girls were up on a up on a hill and they said they saw a craft and the Virgin Mary that one I think might be in an angel situation. I think that there is a lot of this identification between angel and alien, you know, like, are we actually all aliens? But I don't think of the virgin case the way that these these beings are described, these feel extra extraterrestrial to me, in not an angel sense, but I don't know for sure.
Speaker 1: Well, it's that weird because they looked like demons, but.
Speaker 3: Oh, totally totally.
Speaker 2: And the doctor said it was more like it felt like angel. Yeah, but he specifically uses the word angel. It was an angel, but it looks like a demon. The dichotomy there just blows my mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you, and I feel like the more we talk to a lot of people and people do describe these beings and things that are extra terrestrial as peaceful or not. But I think more people do describe them as peaceful. The more reviewers that reach out to us say that it's all a very calming presence, a very peaceful presence. So I don't know. I mean, it's possible that there's there's multiple out there.
Speaker 2: I think that's probably the right answer, is that we're dealing with kind of like a molt like phenomena from like plural, right.
Speaker 3: It's so complex, it's so complex.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's why I think that you know, all our ancestors, our ancient cultures, I think they all have a little piece of the puzzle. They're probably seeing similar things. That's why they kind of created these similar structures. There's you know, there's the archaeology not archaeology, like the construction of everything is has a similar feel, right. I just think that that that somewhere along the line we kind of lost We drew these fake borders on the map, and because we started speaking different languages, and then we forgot what a human race that was united could do.
Speaker 3: So it's so funny. Before I came in here to chat with you, I was in the media room with Ross and he's probably wrapping up that interview any minute now, because you know, I have him scheduled. Oh yeah, I've got that man scheduled. But his interview was talking about and I was captivated to this and I can't wait to finish the rest of it. This man was saying that a goddess at the very very very very early history, that a goddess was there and she said I'm going to make man, and she made She carried a man, a baby to turn and gave birth to a man.
Speaker 3: And then that baby's name was Adam. So that is Adam from Adam and Eve from the Creation story. So very interesting. I was. I was super captivated with what he was saying, and I was like, wow, I wonder where he's going with this. But yeah, he was telling a story that he had heard from all around the world, ancient agent folklore or stories that this goddess was actually the one who decided to create Adam. So look forward. I think we're actually gonna run that as Tuesday's reality Check. So we watched it together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is very very interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2: Is there a out of the past year, Is there a case or episode that has really like left the lasting impression on you, that something that you maybe didn't expect and you were just really surprised by and and just it.
Speaker 1: Stuck with you.
Speaker 3: There are two interviews that I love. I love Case and Best. He saw a massive UAP while serving Chayenne Mountain and he he you know the FBI is involved, there's an FBI sketch. I found him extremely credible and very well spoken, and I really loved his story and his bravery coming forward. And then I also love Martin and you Rember Martin's last night same. I'm so sorry. It's escaping me right now. He's in Greenland. He gave Ross and our team the exclusive videos of UAPs in Greenland, and those videos were amazing, some of the best we had seen in such a long time.
Speaker 3: And he was just an awesome person to talk to and work with. Clist, Thank you, Martin Cleist. He was incredible to work with and talk to. And I liked them because these are actual civilians who came forward. I love it when we interviewed the really released people, like I think Patrick Jackson is a genius, does an amazing theory, like Beatrice Villeral, like, oh my god, bow down. I think you're a genius. But Cason and Martin, I just felt like these are normal people who have had incredible experiences and really cool stories.
Speaker 2: I just interviewed Patrick Jackson and it's actually yeah, great, yeah, it's and it's in the queue right now because it's it's it's dense, so I have to go through it, like because it is dense, it's dense stuff. Yeah, he is onto something with the Sphere Network totally.
Speaker 3: Yeah. That was actually one of the hardest episodes that I've had to produce. It was it was tough just from a in the producer chair, it was tough. You know, I understand the story and I and I respect him, but there was so many images and graphs and just like going back and trying to watch the time codes to everything to give the viewer the best experience on that episode.
Speaker 2: I am I was, you know, I don't. I watched the Area fifty two with Ross during just during Today, and Chris asked one of one of these questions that I was like, you know what stealing that.
Speaker 3: Queer? Yeah yeah, yeah, I just accused you of that.
Speaker 2: But since you are working with Ross, Yeah, I'm literally just indicted myself. Who I hope I'll get called out by Joe Rogan on the comedy comedy scene.
Speaker 3: But well, if he gets an anonymous tip, it wasn't me.
Speaker 2: Is there?
Speaker 1: I gotta be serious about this.
Speaker 2: Is is there a story that you could you wish you you could un here, that you wish you didn't know, that you wish you weren't told.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, uh, that's a great question. I'm trying to think, Can I can I can I ask Andy again? Andy? Andy, What's what's the story that I wish I don't know? I know, and I it's so funny. I don't want to get Andy's our executive producer, He's my boss, He's the better half of my brain. What is what? What is a story that I wish I could unhear from reality.
Speaker 1: Check or just in general, like even if you've been told.
Speaker 3: Okay, it could be just okay easy. I'm not going to say any names for any real information. I have heard stories that there are programs that are taking kids and doing things to them that I don't subscribe to or like at all, for government and programs, and I am not okay with that. I'm not okay with that. So I wish that I could have my blinders on and think that kids are off limits and kids are safe. But unfortunately the card.
Speaker 1: Is that's not the case.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I think I just lost you. But while I while you fix that real quick, I think we've definitely seen and here maybe I don't know if you can hear me at least.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 2: The the Epstein files.
Speaker 1: One second, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: I can?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. So my AirPods I found them in the bottom of my bag and I haven't used them in maybe a year, so we like lightning charged them. So I'm kind of just like switching back and forth on the fly for you. But anyways, where did you lose me?
Speaker 2: So? I think we've sadly come to that, the sad realization that like with Epstein, that all that stuff, I think that we've obviously just we we live in a world where evil exists.
Speaker 3: And if you don't, if if you're not.
Speaker 2: Operating with that in mind at least, then you're operating with two hands time behind your back.
Speaker 1: Because the light is the only thing that.
Speaker 2: Will expel the darkness, right, Yeah, Like it's the only thing it's the best disinfectant. So as terrible as that is, that that that there are government programs and I'm not I'm not convinced that the Epstein stuff because if if hear me out on this, and what why why are people in the UFO community so so like not willing to entertain the idea that the same people that are blackmailing the President of the United States, the most powerful individual, arguably public facing individual plane, if you're blackmailing that person, are you not the deep state?
Speaker 2: Most likely? And and if this whole Epstein network sounds like it was a deep state operation, very very intelligence driven.
Speaker 3: And universe, yeah, because this is a global is global situation with the with the cabal, the deep state, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2: There's no borders, right, so why won't why won't the community say wait a second? I think those are the same motherfuckers that have been suppressing this technology from us because they see us, they see they see the life as as this this hierarchy that they are above the general public and they can mistreat, use us, and and and abuse us essentially without any repercussion.
Speaker 3: Yep, Yeah, you're yeah, You're absolutely right.
Speaker 2: I think there's a link.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's honestly, when the Ebstein files came out and you start diving into them, it's it's scary. That's the link between everything. It's really there.
Speaker 2: And that's a good and that's a good segue here. I know we have limited times. I'm trying to just bust questions, but when you guys are running, because you guys are investigative reporters, right when when you have a story, you have to balance the line of entertainment, education.
Speaker 1: And also keeping it engaging. So when putting something like that together, and there is maybe friction between, like the line which line are we going to go education or entertainment? Is there one that usually he wins out.
Speaker 3: No, we're not doing that on a reality check. We're not doing that with Ross. And I know that that's what happens in the media because I've been an executive producer in the media for a decade plus. This show is different. Ross is different, This topic is different. We are covering the stories that are important. We're not filtering them. We're giving all the information. Like I said at the beginning of our interview, and this is what's so great about the Internet. If you don't like the topic, you don't have to watch that episode.
Speaker 3: And then there's episodes that we do that you know, get put up and you know, we don't have a lot of traction on them. We're like, okay, that's fine, but we stand behind the story and we wanted to tell that story. Of course, we want to entertain you guys, but it's not really about that. It's about the truth and these stories, and that's why we do such a long format is to tell the whole thing. If you're watching you know, mainstream media and the news or your nightly news program, that's clickbait, plain and simple.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. What they're saying is is the clickbait headline. It's not the full story. They're trying to grab your attention for however long they can, whether you're you're watching to get to get the ratings on TV, or if you're clicking on an article that has an absolutely outlandish headline, that's not that's not real news. So yes, I understand the entertainment angle. I actually understand it too well to where I wish I didn't because now I'm just really it's really tough for me to like watch watch news and have conversations with people about some topics just because I you know, I don't want to muddy the waters for everybody.
Speaker 3: You know, we all have our our personal duty to do your own research, et cetera. But on our show, we're not we're not doing that. Yeah, I might make a title card that's a little outlandish, like you guys, oh my gosh, everybody ate me Alive for the Sun is a portal for aliens, but like, come on, like that was a real question in there. So the title card and the headline might be a little salatious, but I'm not. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna screw you in the interview.
Speaker 2: We all do it. It's literally part of the game, guys. The thumbnail is literally it's the if you're if you guys are into fishing, it's the hook, right, and that first minute, first minute and a half, that is where they either keep you or you don't. So it's that is the way the game's played. And that's okay. That is okay, It is okay.
Speaker 3: But at least, but at least in the show. Like the why I'm so proud of the show is we give the full thing. We don't edit it's long form. Everything's on the table. It's not like if you're going to CNN or somebody Fox for somebody's website, then you're not really getting everything, or you're even worse, you're watching at night and the reporter is like giving you an in and out and like two skewed and talking points and then that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they're balancing their time, they're selecting who comes on, who gets It's just that's why I think the podcast is going to That's where it's going is people are are going to podcasts for that kind of stuff. Now we're better or worse. That's just the next frontier. And and that's I think that's really cool because it's going to give rise to just like you know, filmmaking, filmmaking, the indie filmmaker has way more tools at their own disposal, you know, same with you know, talk shows and having this kind of setup.
Speaker 2: When I was going through college in film school, like this was not this wasn't possible, Like this is a radio station. So it is really cool to see.
Speaker 3: But it's amazing you are the media now. Congratulations.
Speaker 2: It is amazing given all of the recent news, right Trump's statements is truth. Is that what you call it a truth? Is it just a truth?
Speaker 3: Social? I think it's not a post is it truth?
Speaker 2: Is what do we call it?
Speaker 1: A truth?
Speaker 2: That's so stupid. I don't know. That's so on the nose stupid. But okay, whatever. So Trump's truth where he's going to do classify things? Obama saying aliens exist, they're not in area fifty one. He just needed to throw that in all this stuff happening. Where do you see us in the next twelve to twenty four months, and as a UFO community blue thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think that we are going to get information. I think, as I said, we'll get a massive document dump, and I think we'll have to go through it with a fine tooth, calm and look, I want to be very careful because of getting too excited, which I think we should be excited. This is exciting news, this is forward thinking. There's more to come. We're going to be busy and we're going to get information. But I believe that the majority of the information that we want is hidden within the private sector.
Speaker 3: So for example, you're you wonder, I'm sure you understand this, But for example, if you've got a lot of cash and you're trying to hide it from the irs or whatever. You're going to go to the Bahamas or the Cayman Islands and you're going to open an offshore banking account and you're going to hide your information there. The government is doing the same exact thing with private contractors. Private contractors are doing their dirty work. And even if President Trump says release the documents, hey Pete Hegseth, it's go time.
Speaker 3: The private sector is not bound by the government. They're not a government entity. So are they still going to be holding on to the information that we really want? And those are the companies, these private entity companies are the ones who really should be testifying in front of Congress under oath and saying what they know, what they've done, who they've worked for, and what they have. I think any single time there is a UAP hearing in Congress, I think it's amazing because it moves the needle for people, for viewers who for people who are interested in are believers or just what more information.
Speaker 3: I don't think it does ject shit in the government. I actually know it doesn't. It doesn't go anywhere. It's a dog and pony show. They do the hearing, have a nice day, no follow up, et cetera, et cetera. So will we get information, Yes, it's also going to be tough, So not from the private sector, I don't think. So that's I think where the good information is. But then if all this information does come out and we start going through it, how do we if there is truth in there, that we find proof that they have been in contact with NHI have at a an hi craft?
Speaker 3: Dare I say, an alien body? They have these things, so they've known about it. How are we expected to trust the government again or these definite these sectors of the government like NASA and the DoD etc. Who have lied continuously, nothing to see here, nothing going on. So does that change our perception of government at all? Of these people who are in charge of us, who are running the show and making the decisions that they said, no aliens, nothing to see here, we have no information, you're crazy.
Speaker 3: And then let's say in this documentum we do find something. Does that change how we see our government? And sometimes I think maybe that's what Trump wants. You know, he said that he was going to drain the swamp years ago on during his first term. That's kind of what he ran on. I think that he sees what's happening now. I think he served for four years, said oh I get it now, went away for four years, got back into the White House and says, now I can really either clean ship or figure it out. And you know, Ross and I have gone back and forth a whole bunch on this on is President Trump the President of disclosure?
Speaker 3: And I actually called him on this out on this in a video that we did today that should be up any minute. I think, Andy, I think it's online. I said, hey, Ross, you know you flipped flop on this, and I put out a video on my page this week and I said, I still believe that he is the President of disclosure and lo and behold this happens. So then Ross did say today, I, you know, I was wrong. We do think he is the President of disclosure. So I think a lot's going to change in the next six months, twelve months and beyond.
Speaker 3: Because once, even once we do get this information, we make up our mind of like right right, the government, or I believe this, or I beleeve that, or we didn't get anything. No matter what, our perception of reality and our humanity in the world is probably going to change a little bit. So I think I think that's going to be along along road when the all starts coming down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I definitely think there needs to be I think the public just needs to be involved. I think I think you you can't classify reality and sadly you know who does own who does own the truth? And you know, if you want to go by like the real conspiracy stuff and go into like Operation mocking Bird and c I a embedding you know, people in uh in media to put the gobash on stories and to make sure that you know, the government didn't have another Vietnam kind of situation on their hands. But if you want to go that road, you can, you know, And and there's just a lot of division down that road.
Speaker 2: But I think if we can overcome that and stop like because that's what they want, They want us to just keep being of infighting, infighting, infighting, because then we.
Speaker 1: Don't really have time keep it going down exactly.
Speaker 2: So again it brings me back to like this whole adage of the Tower of Babbel, what a united humanity could do. And I think disclosure might be the only bipartisan thing and not just bipartisan but whatever the word for global, like, I think there's a global position that if we are not alone in the universe, that information belongs to every single human on the planet, and it affects them all equally because it changes how you see yourself, how you see yourself when you stand out there all alone on the mountaintop and look up in the sky, right, So it affects everybody the exact same amount.
Speaker 2: It's the only thing that I think actually can unite the world in a good way.
Speaker 3: It might be optimistic, I agree with you, but there's one thing that I can say for episolutes certain is that the government wants to control the narrative.
Speaker 2: You're well, yeah again, Yeah, we could go down that road and say they're not. They're not gonna let us like, you know, everything and that, and I don't expect them to. Honestly, I knew we I think we all knew this was gonna be a tough fight, and it was gonna be a kind of a tug of war. Go back, go, you know, you think you're losing, and then you you know, you gain on you gain on your opponent, and you know, ever since twenty seventeen, and I know you're kind of newer to the topic. But you know, before twenty seventeen, any one of the stories that's happened over the past, like say eight years, any one of these stories would have been the story for multiple years before, right, Like any of Jake Barber coming forward twenty five years ago, that would have been it, right, that would have been it.
Speaker 2: And we're so blessed right now that we've we're standing on the shoulders of giants like Stanton Friedman, like George Knapp, like.
Speaker 1: So many more. I'm drawing like Philip Corso, Cordell.
Speaker 3: Still Gary Nolan as a genius.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's yeah, but we they're they're the people that got us to the to the to the point now where this is being taken seriously again, we need to remember them. And I think, you know, Ross, being from a mix of like old media and new media, I think he's a perfect person. Just yeah, yourself, it's just a great combination. Last night, is humanity actually ready for disclosure?
Speaker 1: Are you ready think so?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, I think humanity is as well. I think after the COVID nineteen pandemic that people had to do a lot of self reflecting and thinking about what they believe. Well, this is what I hope. But I think the humanity of the pandemic was a turning point in critical thinking in the world. So I think that if you can critically think about that situation, then you are okay with knowing what humanity means. If that makes any sense at all, What.
Speaker 1: Would it change for you? Like what are you ready?
Speaker 2: Like fundamentally, are you ready to maybe like, uh, raise kids in a world where we're not We're not alone? Like I think these are really really poignant questions in the coming.
Speaker 3: Totally because you know what, at the end of every single day, no matter what, I think that you need to know what's important to you and what makes you your life real. Because if we're all going to die one day, what's going to be important to you at the end of the day. It's going to be your family and whatever happens with humanity, whatever the answer is, we are alone, we aren't alone. I think as long as you know who you are and you are happy with yourself and you can look in the mirror and say, hey, I'm a good person and I did my best.
Speaker 3: I'm doing my best with my family, I think that core is what's actually important. And as long as that, as long as that is strong and that is solid, you can weather any sort of information that comes because you know what's actually going on inside your heart and your home.
Speaker 2: That's awesome, that's really really amazing. So that this this big UFO that Ross is always talking about, it just yes, this big UFO that Ross is always talking about. I haven't really been keeping there's so much news always. I heard that like Burlison had said some thing about something similar. Is that the same same thing? This craft in Oklahoma or se se Seoul?
Speaker 3: Where was it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, I cannot confirm or deny. Oh oh okay, I like that, but I can say that I was on the phone with reper Lissens people this week and I've been yeah, he's great. And then I've been texting with his media guy, who is amazing. And hopefully we are doing an interview on Tuesday. We were supposed to have one yesterday, but there's just absolutely way too much going on and we obviously we want to do a full hour with for listen, and that is one of the potential talking points that hopefully I can get out of you set up for you guys on Tuesday, if I don't have it on Tuesday, please do not kill me.
Speaker 3: I promise, I'm working on.
Speaker 1: It all right.
Speaker 2: Well, you're at the Conscious Life expat right now, surrounded by researchers, experiencers, and insiders. Does it does it feel like something is accelerating? Like, does it feel? What's the feel in the air there.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of sense, a lot of fragrance. There's like, like, yeah, like fragrances, Like there's incense everywhere, there's candles everywhere. There's beautiful soaps and vitamins and all this stuff going on. So there's crystals everywhere. So it's beautiful. So so it's.
Speaker 2: I know, it's exactly what you mean. It's so funny. There's like an alleen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sensory overload. Everywhere I look. I'm like, oh my gosh, bright colors, this, that, and I'm such a like I'm wearing white, black, blue, red, pink, no patterns like, soeverywhere I look, I'm just like assaulted with beautiful things paintings. But you know, the vibe is great. Everyone is so kind. The energy here is amazing. People are extremely excited. I am looking forward to seeing some of the panels and of course, Ross's keynoting tomorrow and we will record the entire thing and post it up for everyone.
Speaker 3: So I just think it's a beautiful way for people to come together and explore a different side of humanity. I have not been to this conference before, so it's this is all all new to me.
Speaker 2: I've never been to a conference before, like a UFO one no oh oh shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Look, I'm a Vegas girl. I grew up in Vegas. If you think something's gonna shock me, you're wrong. I'm not gonna see anything here.
Speaker 2: Networking. The networking is just absolutely like Contact in the Desert and Conscious Life, all these things are such really what I find because I'm like you. I was literally in the media room for four days at Contact in the Desert just.
Speaker 1: Doing interviews like I didn't, Yeah I had.
Speaker 2: I did introductions for people like Chris bled so I introduced him and I didn't even stay for it. I had to believe because I had like eighteen interviews. I had to get to SOT. That's I feel that. I I think I had four interviews for Ross today. I kind of felt bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's fun though, It's it really is fun because you get to network, And that's what again, that's that's yeah, that's great. That's really the time for me where I get to reflect and think about like, okay, you know, like with and with someone like like Steve Bassett, as many times as I talk to him, it doesn't get boring to me.
Speaker 1: It's just I find him, you know.
Speaker 2: I love talking with people about this subject to the point where you know, again, people like the general public, they get annoyed with it. They like you can see their eyes glaze back, and it's like, how can this not be how how do you give a fuck if the patrin it's win when it's there's UFOs out there, Like I I get why, I get why you care why they win, but I don't know why it affects people.
Speaker 1: And like that's we had to talk about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a similar conversation after contact in the desert because you know, rot Ross was there and I had a million interview scheduled for him there. But we watched our coverage of it obviously and what the respect that we did gave to the topic and the people who were there. And then we watched like a clip that CNN had done and they like sent a reporter in with like an alien on his head and they were like you believe in UFOs and it was like a big jokey shit thing. And I'm like, oh, so we're just like disrespectful now, got it?
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know it's very annoying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just be nice, everybody, Just be nice.
Speaker 2: The X Files music is so like it's it's it's not appropriate anymore.
Speaker 1: It's like it's not it's.
Speaker 2: Just it's the stupidest.
Speaker 3: Change So change my ring tone?
Speaker 2: Yes, well no, no, personally it can mean whenever, but like when they've.
Speaker 3: Been twenty twenty six, you just told me it was twenty twenty six. We don't have ring tones anymore. My phone is on doing noster as I know yours is as well, because I've been texting you and it says silence, silence.
Speaker 2: Yeah. When I I always schedule everything, so it puts me into a like a don't bother me mode whatever that's called. Yeah, yeah, here's yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Am I missing anything? Am I missing anything? Am I missing? Is there anything I didn't ask you that you want to be asked? I've never asked anyone that.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you know what is so ridiculous? I actually was asked that the other day, So you just copied a third person's question here in this short time that we've been together, and I.
Speaker 2: Didn't Carlos Smithcia, so that's a deep cut.
Speaker 3: I didn't have an answer, and I was like, I literally was like, I don't know. And then people started making fun of me on X, which please stop doing that, people. I swear, I still make fun of me, but they're making me like, oh, she didn't have an answer, and then I eventually said like, oh, my dogs, like I have dogs, which is so so stupid. Everyone has dogs, but I and I said to myself, I have to think of an answer to that question. And then here I am, dear the headlights being asked that question again, and I to work answer.
Speaker 2: What's it feel like to work with the guy that like work like work next to the guy or with the guy like who's brought guys like David Crush forward, And I mean, that's gotta be kind of superb.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's absolutely incredible.
Speaker 2: I don't mean to make him like CASKI I'm not like he's not great greater than you, just because.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah he is, Are you kidding me? I'm writing Ross's coattails into the sunset, my friend, I trust me. I understand how this is. Yeah, I understand how this works. I can't even tell you the amount of people that DM me who are like, hey, oh my gosh, like we think you're great. What's Ross's phone number? And I'm like, dang it. Yeah, well I thought you wanted to talk to me, But then how I tricked you? And here I am with the gate keeper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the gatekeeper of Frost.
Speaker 3: Yeah gotcha, gotcha. Yeah, you guys came onto the show to see Ross and you're stuck with me. Sorry, tricked you.
Speaker 2: Actually a pretty funny person. It's I wasn't expecting how much you were to but you are. I don't want to keep you too long.
Speaker 1: I know you're at I want you to go enjoy this conference.
Speaker 3: But yeah, because it's my time. It's six thirty, so I have a Margarita calling my name. Yeah, yeah, but I could if you want to chat any longer.
Speaker 2: Sure, I was goeta, No, no, I was going to say, I'd love to have you in Boston. Maybe maybe we could bring pay to bring Ross here too and make it worth everyone's time. Uh, someday, right, I know he'll priab you back around, you know, flying through the country.
Speaker 1: Uh, contact happens.
Speaker 2: So maybe we could put something together and really sit down and break break everything down and totally.
Speaker 3: And I would love to go to that part of the country again when I you know, we were just in DC altogether, but I would love to bring Ross and Doors Doors off with him. I think it would be super fun and just.
Speaker 1: Very storied area. This East Coast is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2: What can people where? I mean, where can people find you on? X?
Speaker 1: Uh? You know, writing a book? Like everyone what's going on?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I wish because I love reading so much. I would love to write a book. But no, I'm not writing a book. But you know, I'm on I'm on YouTube now. We started my own channel. We are posting content. I'm making videos and working on all that and just app producer Megan and a lot of the stuff that we posted on Ross's rosschel Tardvests page we collaborate with me there. And then yeah, I'm on ex producer Megan as well. And you know, we're working on a bunch of stuff for me. I don't know if I'm ready to say what it is, but I've also tricked some people into uh talking with me, So there's a little hint.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's any any like any big big ones.
Speaker 3: I talked to today about Antarctica.
Speaker 2: Antarctica. That is an interesting topic. I know some several people that would be interested in hearing about that. Well, all right, yeah, please do please do, please do. You've been such a treat to talk with. Super funny. Yeah, I really, like I said, we're trying to bring the production value up on YouTube. For a long time, I didn't, you know, alp the podcasts and bringing video. Yep, there out video for everybody, and I didn't. I was I'm not going to get into that anyway. Spotify did promise it at one time and they screwed everybody.
Speaker 2: So Apple's finally doing it. I'm so excited. So God, thanks for being a part of this. I'd love to have you guys in studium. Thank you so much to all the people behind you that are also made it possible. And for Conscious Life Expo for giving you a road Andy and Nick and Conscious Life. Uh, people can head over to that the website.
Speaker 1: I'll put it in the link description of the Bellow.
Speaker 2: All right, I think we lost her again, so we can just probably wrap up and everyone, thank you for for watching. Make sure to like, share, subscribe again, we are trying to push the videos.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's okay.
Speaker 2: You there.
Speaker 3: I'm here.
Speaker 2: Hi.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm just saying hi. You're trying. You're trying to say goodbye to me, and I'm like, I'm back, mofo.
Speaker 2: I'm back, bitches.
Speaker 3: Yeah, here we are.
Speaker 2: You're truly, like I said, you're truly, You're truly one of a And again, thank you.
Speaker 1: I'll put all the descriptions.
Speaker 2: In the below for the podcast and again for everyone watching on YouTube. Again, we're trying to kick this thing up and even those even those numbers out because very very uh like ranked on the podcast side, but uh with YouTube, it was it's like ninety percent of people aren't subscribed. It's the struggle is real, uh, with the video side that we're definitely trying to even that out. So thanks for being a part of that, Megan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, thank you for having me. I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1: You're lovely, all.
Speaker 2: Right, everyone else, stay humble, stay one, stay vigilant.
Speaker 1: M I'm going to end it.
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