The Experiencer FILES| UFO SIGHTING CHANGES COURSE OF A LIFE

0:13 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Total Disclosure. My name is Tai and I am the host and creator of the show. Today we had I've been up since seven a m. Thanks to our producer Jeane. We were filming a project that he's been working on for quite some time now, and I thought this was a good opportunity to sit with someone who I'd been talking to and met in the past, an experiencer. Her name is Lisa, and I wanted to bring her on today so she could tell us a little bit about her experiences with the phenomena. And you know, just with everything that's going on, I think more people do want to hear from people that are experienced this because there is a huge ontological shock that's coming right right, so people are going to look towards people like you in the future, almost like solace in a way, like, Hey, how do I get through this?

1:16 Speaker 1: Right? So tell me a little bit about you and how this journey took off.

1:22 Speaker 2: Yeah.

1:22 Speaker 3: So, I mean I'm from Rhode Island and I grew up there my whole life.

1:26 Speaker 2: I've always been in New England, and I.

1:29 Speaker 3: Think this is kind of the stomping grounds for spooky happenings in general. So I always kind of expected like a haunting or something like that in my life growing up in that area. But no, apparently not at that level. So let me let me just take a quick drive with this.

1:51 Speaker 1: Well so, okay, so, and yeah, I do agree about that. The very long tenured this is the East Coast in particular Massachusetts, in New England, you know, the New Hampshire to mass area specifically being kind of the start of the colonial world. Uh. You know, it's very storied in its history. There's so much atrocity that's happened. There's you know, things that have happened here that weren't so great, and I feel like the land is very susceptible to like this cursed echo.

2:26 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean I think human beings like when when you think about like a memory like that sticks with you even like and like you're driving by a spot in the road and you're like, oh, that's this is the place where I had that car accident or something like that. I think when it's something significant that happens to a person, I think that their spirit can absolutely reside in that in that area. For a long time, in New England, there's been you know, lots of tragedy to to to be accounted for. Fur there to be a lot of spiritual activity, and I mean maybe that's part of why there are sightings, when there are sightings for ghosts and things like that.

3:11 Speaker 3: But for me, yeah, I I was you know, I was probably around twenty one or about to be twenty one when this happened to me. I was living in like West Greinwage at the time, and that's when I had like my first like huge sighting.

3:32 Speaker 1: Really tell me what happened? Yeah, so big sighting, Like what do you mean big?

3:37 Speaker 2: So when I say big siting, I mean.

3:40 Speaker 3: I think, you know, growing up in that area, like weird things would happen, like yeah, of course, like things we would think were ghosts or like you know, I grew up around like where Mercy Brown's grave is.

3:53 Speaker 2: Are you familiar with the ground. Yeah, Like I.

3:56 Speaker 3: Had some spooky things happen when I was like volunteering and like doing stuff.

4:00 Speaker 2: There was like.

4:01 Speaker 3: Cool, but nothing that like ever really for sure was like oh I definitely saw something or like you know, everything, yeah, and everything I think up to that point up until this this thing.

4:16 Speaker 2: Kind of felt explainable.

4:18 Speaker 1: It's a good way to put it. Yeah, so tell me what start bring I want to be there.

4:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll bring you there.

4:24 Speaker 3: So so this was twenty eleven two actually sorry, twenty twelve. I am about a year out of high school. I graduated in twenty eleven. Yes, were the same age.

4:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's odd.

4:40 Speaker 3: So this is this is part of why I'm here with you as well. We have synchronosities. I call myself and a lot of my friends actually call me a white rabbit because I tend to lead them to a place where down the rabbit Yeah, I don't know. Oh yeah, I guess down the rabbit hole and ways and like, yeah, actually the person I was with and not everybody has the opportunity to see something really really out of the world and then have someone else to be sitting there next to you and experiencing it right at the same time.

5:18 Speaker 3: But like even her path, like she's a she's a completely trained shaman now and like it's super busy all the time, and like like it's interesting. I don't know if necessarily the sighting brought her down that path, but I'll let you know, I didn't see that coming for her because at the time she was staying with me, at my parents' house, and my mom's amazing, love my mummy, but we had we had I had a rough home life with my dad and uh at that time, Like it wasn't super bad at my house, but it was terrible at hers.

5:57 Speaker 3: So she was coming to stay with me for like few weeks, and we liked seeing going out and seeing shows. In Providence, there's like a really good music scene. Yeah, there was this place that was right off of Pine Street that was called the Spot Underground. It's no longer in existence, which is a shame, but we used to go there all the time to see live music. So I lived in it's called Mishnoc Lake Area cross Grainwage. There's a barn, like a very old barn there. There's like two ways you can kind of go in and out of this neighborhood.

6:41 Speaker 3: So for like locals hearing this story, like anyone in Firm Rhode Island that would know, like the Mishinok Lake area, there's a side we would come off and it's like the main road to Route three and there's like a convenience store or rather a liquor store.

6:59 Speaker 2: At that way to get in and out of the neighborhood.

7:02 Speaker 1: Got it.

7:02 Speaker 3: So that was where I was leaving, and so we were, you know, preparing to go to the show. Honestly, like we smoked weed, we'd party and stuff, but like at that time, totally sober, Like I just want to recall that, like like we were sober too, sober girls like going to take a ride and.

7:25 Speaker 1: You weren't going to be sober.

7:27 Speaker 2: We weren't.

7:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, we weren't going to be yeah, but we were like it like at the time, I think it was like important to especially for the times and the fact that Yeah, anyway, uh So, essentially.

7:41 Speaker 2: I leave my neighborhood.

7:43 Speaker 3: I'm on Route three and I turn left because the on ramps to the highway are to the left to go north or south on ninety five. But before the on ramps to the highway are two gas stations and the easiest one for me to go to was towards the right hand side. And so as I'm driving forward in like my my view of the mirror, like in the horizon line of the sky, so like you're driving and it's like in front of.

8:16 Speaker 1: You, you know, it's on the horizon, like the.

8:18 Speaker 3: Horizon line of the sky, like right above the horizon.

8:21 Speaker 2: Light.

8:22 Speaker 3: Like imagine just two like very large white balls of light like you're driving, and then like the left corner of the horizon, you see these two perfectly symmetrical white lights, right, big balls like almost like less I wouldn't say, like the size of the moon, smaller than the size of like seeing the moon at night.

8:45 Speaker 1: So but but closer than the moon in relation.

8:48 Speaker 3: Yes, like yeah, it looked it looked like it was hanging right over the on ramp to the highway where we were going to go.

8:56 Speaker 1: Actually, so it fell close.

8:58 Speaker 3: Yes, it fell close, and like we were looking at it, we both felt really like perplexed by what this was because where it was hovering or standing, like nothing should have been there, because like that's the on ride to the highway, so it's these lights, and we were like what is that? And I think for both of us, we were thinking Rhode Island's, you know, again the industrial revolutionary town, and there's always construction happening. So I thought maybe it was like some like power lights that they were using for construction, like near the highway, because it was right over the highway.

9:36 Speaker 1: Good, good prosaic thinking, I like where you're going.

9:40 Speaker 3: Because we're both like but we had done this drive and that's the other thing too. She had to stay at my house for two weeks and we had done the same drive to go to the same club to see different bands.

9:50 Speaker 1: Like and there's no lights? You ever saw no flight?

9:53 Speaker 3: I don't know, and like, I actually, you know, I wish i'd I want to take some daytime and I time videos of my drive that I took today, like now, and revisit this spot because I haven't been back.

10:09 Speaker 1: So what are the two balls of light? How are they? You see them? You're like probably like, oh shit, what is that? You start thinking, you know, throwing out explanations to each other. Yeah, tell me what happens next.

10:22 Speaker 2: Yeah.

10:22 Speaker 3: So the weird thing was we said, like what is that? And my friend said is that a sign? And like, as they said, is that a sign? The right white light flashed blue for a second. We both went whoa, Like I remember, we both went like whoa, what was that?

10:42 Speaker 1: That was weird?

10:43 Speaker 3: But I'm like continuing, like I'm driving and seeing this, so like this is the conversation, like right light flashes blue for a second, goes back to why then I'm like, okay, well I'm turning now. Like I need to go into this parking lot for the gas station because I need to get gas. And I go up this like little ramp and I'm like flat now in the gas station to where I can like park for a second and like look at this thing that I've been Oh.

11:10 Speaker 1: So now you're get your stationary in your.

11:12 Speaker 2: Long stationary right like.

11:15 Speaker 3: But remember I'm like going down like a long route three straightway and I'm seeing it at the left side of my horizon and now I'm turning right up the ramp into the gas ocushion, right, So now this thing would have been like yep over here, right, So like I like popped my head.

11:35 Speaker 2: She did the same thing. We popped her head out the window and I looked over there and it was gone. I was like, what the heck? Our heads were still out of the window.

11:43 Speaker 3: And when we looked up, well, the first thing that I noticed was just it was really like very bright.

11:52 Speaker 1: There was.

11:55 Speaker 3: What I could make out to just be several lights.

12:01 Speaker 3: I would say there were maybe about eight lights that were.

12:05 Speaker 2: In like.

12:08 Speaker 3: In a circle ish formation within the center of this thing. Because I had time to like scan my eyes and look over and see that, like, okay, this is an entire thing that is hanging only a few feet over the trees above this gas station. That's about the size of the gas station parking lot, maybe even a little bit bigger. But I could see, like I could see sky beyond, like a semi curved area.

12:41 Speaker 1: Like, so you think this thing was obstructing the stars.

12:45 Speaker 2: It was. It was obstructing the stars for like for this moment too.

12:51 Speaker 3: It's interesting because when I look back at it, it feels like a moment that almost lasted forever. And then like I we were both likely seeing this.

13:05 Speaker 2: I don't know. I want to know more.

13:07 Speaker 3: From her perspective of like what her eyes caught. She's I check in with her all the time and.

13:14 Speaker 1: Question, Yeah, when you first lay eyes on it, yeah, does it feel like you're watching it? Or is it it watching it?

13:25 Speaker 3: It was to give you any sense of yeah, I was being caught like it I felt, I guess you know the feeling when you feel like you're being watched. Yes, it was that. I felt that feeling like I was being watched. But it wasn't like.

13:45 Speaker 2: Scary. It was more so like curious.

13:49 Speaker 3: It wasn't until it got really close and was hanging over, like I said, and I'm at you know, this point where I'm seeing it. We actually had somebody outside who was pump his gas and we were yelling.

14:02 Speaker 2: We start yelling at this point, we're like look up, look up.

14:06 Speaker 3: And as soon as we started yelling and saying look up, this thing just zipped. That was the incredible part of the vision too, is like and I'm trying to like see it again and imagine, and it's like so unbelievable to me that it like, you know, only hanging a few feet, like a few miles above the trees, and it just zoomed off without making a sound.

14:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, so quickly an acceleration, right.

14:38 Speaker 2: Instant an acceleration.

14:39 Speaker 3: I walked into the gap like the oh yeah, so the guy that so we screwed up this guy and when we went to go look up, it zoomed and like he also was underneath the awning. So so what actually happened was two Now it looks like two girls are hanging out of car windows yelling at this guy. And the girlfriend was in the backseat of the car and was like look at the mad and we were like no, no, no, we saw ufo. Of course, you know, we look insane. Yeah, we look insane. So then like I, you know, I go into inside the gas station.

15:17 Speaker 3: I told the gas station attendant what just happened, and I'm like, actually, at this point, I'm a little shaken. It took me a bit, and I was like and I'm like, how am I supposed to get gas right now? And I kept I kept asking my friend of chantie like did you do you really see that?

15:33 Speaker 2: Did that really happen? And and the funniest part is like.

15:38 Speaker 3: Us going to the club that and going to see music, and like I would try to like talk to people and say something about it, and I just kept feeling so unsure of like time, so unsure of like.

15:57 Speaker 2: If if, if that was real?

15:59 Speaker 1: If like yeah, yeah, all the questions that, yeah that.

16:04 Speaker 2: It was all I could focus on for the rest of the night.

16:07 Speaker 1: Well. It's kind of interesting, though, because I've heard so many stories where someone will see something extraordinary with another person, yeah, and then once it's gone out of their view, it's almost like they just click back on right, they click back, and then they just go about the rest of their day and then they don't think about it for a couple of years, and like, oh, John, Remember when we saw that, like, it's very different. You were hyper focused on it, and she was as well.

16:40 Speaker 2: I mean we have like we have.

16:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, she she was for a while and then I think I think the experience actually allowed her down like more of a spiritual.

16:52 Speaker 2: Path into into deeper into her self.

16:56 Speaker 3: And like my my curiosity kind of went further out into like space. And I mean she absolutely still has an interest in the topic. She came with me to the Exeter UFO festival last year.

17:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, me, I was there. Yeah, So you know, have you ever heard the have you ever heard that some experiences seem to be tailored for the person's seeing. So do you believe that that sighting may have been exactly timed? Because again, this guy, he's pumping his gas. You tell him to look up. Even if he does look up, he can't see anything because there's the gas canopy. Right. So you're the only arguably that you know of, you're the only two people who saw it. It changed both of you in ways that you can't really maybe formulate at this point, but it definitely sent you guys on different paths.

17:55 Speaker 1: Do you believe that this sighting was aimed for you?

17:57 Speaker 3: Only you too, So maybe I think, yeah, maybe the both of us, because her and I have a very special relationship, like we will probably be in each other's lives forever, our paths will always cross. I think there's some sort of like quantum entanglement when it comes to me and in this person. And it's interesting because I, you know, I had grown up in that area. I grew up in like Coventry and in West Greenwich. And you know, after that time of my life, like I was, I was younger in partying, and I ended up like moving into Providence and it was with somebody for a bit.

18:43 Speaker 3: We settled down and had a home in Coventry. And so when I went back into like more of the town area of you know, of of Rhode Island instead of the city. And so now I'm back in the woods to like where I had this sighting.

18:59 Speaker 1: And I mean, what color was it? Was there a color to this black oh gray, but the light when it was on the horizon, it was like a white light and then and then it comes over you.

19:25 Speaker 2: No, not exactly.

19:27 Speaker 3: I would say, I just saw two stagnant, bright white balls of light near each other to the left side of the horizon line. For me, in my view as I'm driving on this main strip of road, they just like it's like like headlights almost like headlights, like two bright lights, but like.

19:49 Speaker 1: Do you think they're separate?

19:52 Speaker 2: Think theied you know what I'm saying.

19:56 Speaker 1: You see it on the horizon and then you see it above you.

19:59 Speaker 2: The those things could have been because.

20:02 Speaker 1: If it zoomed off like that, I'm thinking, what if you make contact with it? Right, you guys see it?

20:09 Speaker 2: And that's when I felt the most.

20:11 Speaker 3: And that's when I felt the most, uh looked at, right, was when I saw the just the two.

20:18 Speaker 1: Lights, and then I think maybe I.

20:21 Speaker 3: Think it like it felt like it hurt us and like locked in and like stopped over.

20:26 Speaker 1: Well, you talked about entanglement, right, Well, what if that's exactly what consciousness does. Our friend Jean talks about this right like radio stations. So what if you're beaming to this thing and you know it's just something that happens right when you make eye contact with someone for that short time, your consciousness is entangled, which would allow such things like telepathy, those kind of things to exist in the first place, because without that direct connection, it would just be the overwhelming noise.

20:56 Speaker 1: So if you couldn't zero in, you know, I think so, I think in so if you make eye contact with this thing over the horizon, how are you not sure that that's not exactly what pops over your head at just that moment? You know?

21:10 Speaker 3: To me, is I feel like you're making such a great point to like who me and Ashanti are at our self, like at our core? And I know that when we both looked at this thing, we both.

21:29 Speaker 2: There. I don't think there were two people more at that time who needed.

21:36 Speaker 3: In awakening or a moment or like or like could have accepted like and needed something more like she's a she, she's a tream shaman now like yeah, and I want to I want to get her on here.

21:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love to talk.

21:52 Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, I miss her and you know she she lives in Connecticut. Definitely, and I mean we definitely we definitely took different pathways. I mean for me, unfortunately, I had a vout of I mean not about and am I'm chronically ill.

22:12 Speaker 2: I wonder if that's like part of.

22:16 Speaker 3: Sometimes I wonder if that's part of the this path and why I'm able to look at things in a different lay I've been a near death experience or essentially now like I.

22:31 Speaker 2: That didn't happen until you know.

22:37 Speaker 1: I'd like to get into that in a moment. Yeah, you can go there. But twenty twelve. Do you remember the ideas about like the end of the world happening in twenty twelve? Yeah, absolutely, beak of my account the long count under. Yeah, so I I've felt that the world hasn't felt right since, and I'm not sure that we didn't that something didn't actually happen, And that's like caused the Mendela effect, Like it's caused various like timeline errors. But I don't want to get too bogged down in that. But it's ironic that this is like when you're seeing these things as well, and you're becoming like you're awake in it, because I I have a lot of correlation to that.

23:38 Speaker 1: I have because now again you're at your out partying that night and it's all you can think of, right, So clearly it resonates with you and and and it's maybe it's supposed to, just like it did when it happened to me. All I wanted was to find out what I saw. It's the only thing I could think of and you know, and and it set me on my path. It's it was the first domino that fell in the long line that's led me now to sitting right here with you, right so in the same case, and you are. We've again different signals, but we've now we're occupying that same space.

24:16 Speaker 1: We've set on pass that intertwined and whatever. So yeah, exactly, So that's crazy, so I think, And you said it was a circular formation, yeah, kind of. So it was it like oscillating at all? Was it pulsating?

24:37 Speaker 2: It was the confusing part. I want to say.

24:42 Speaker 3: The lights there were multiple about eight scattered within the center of this thing flat maybe the base maybe even looked flat. I can't I don't like I can remember

25:04 Speaker 3: seeing several like maybe even spaced out and not like it's not symmetrical.

25:11 Speaker 2: I'll tell you that. Okay, not symmetrical.

25:15 Speaker 3: But it's the interesting thing is it's like, yeah, I went from okay, I'm almost looking at two orbs of light in the horizon. Looks like I had lights. One of them flash blue, went back to white. It's a little weird, big thing. We go, you know, into the gas station, I look up, I see what I see and the majority of what this object was did not have lights underneath it.

25:42 Speaker 2: Maybe really dark.

25:43 Speaker 3: Actually, when I realized how massive it was, it was like it was like I looked at the lights and then the first thing I saw was the lights, and I could see there was like multiple like maybe eight lights like right above me and were type of a circular area, but they were they were all little circles, you know, the little lights like in this type of area.

26:08 Speaker 2: But then the rest was like blacked out.

26:11 Speaker 3: And then but I could see that it was curved and then that it where it stopped like and it was just right above trees.

26:21 Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow. So after that day of after that, what's what did you say? You need to go pee?

26:35 Speaker 2: I think you have to just go.

26:40 Speaker 3: Oh well, we can wait a minute and just.

26:49 Speaker 1: Click the letter B. It'll create a marker. Hmm. Then I'll just notice edit, I'm gonna bring you to a dark place next.

27:08 Speaker 3: We need to talk more often, all right, because you missed what me and you were whispering about earlier.

27:18 Speaker 1: You guys over man, I'm.

27:20 Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, And I was like you can hear it. All I could hear in the back was so.

27:27 Speaker 1: I was like I felt stupid, because I had to tell them. I was like, where were we? Where were we? And they're like, we're here.

27:37 Speaker 2: I'm way worse I was.

27:41 Speaker 3: I'm telling you, if I had heard you go first, so much better.

27:46 Speaker 1: What do you have it on a long shot?

27:54 Speaker 2: And then she just closed, She just she just closed her door.

28:08 Speaker 1: About three thirty four o'clock.

28:11 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah?

28:15 Speaker 2: Is this use careful?

28:19 Speaker 3: Oh?

28:19 Speaker 2: I love that jacket? Oh?

28:23 Speaker 3: Is it can?

28:32 Speaker 1: Well? I'm sure there's there's another. Where's the other chair? Where's my other one? I have two? They didn't leave my another one down there? Did they surprised that they got the footage? Oh? Sorry, you keep back in the Fool'm gonna leave that part in. She comes with you say it m hmmm mm hmm. So tell me we'll get I want to go to your death. You're near death, because I find that it's very revealing about a person.

29:53 Speaker 1: What happened, and how do you think it connects to what you saw that made you go down this path? Down the rabbit hole? If you will?

30:06 Speaker 2: So?

30:06 Speaker 1: Set up? How what what illness set this up?

30:09 Speaker 2: Yeah?

30:10 Speaker 3: I have to some sum of it up, but so essentially I think, okay, we all went through like the world, all of us went through uh collective trauma with COVID, right, m hm. That was traumatizing for us all. And we've all got different biological makeup. I didn't realize that mine was different or special or whatever.

30:46 Speaker 2: You know. I've been a normal twenty eight year old.

30:50 Speaker 3: I was actually trying to start practicing for my first five k I used to take my dog out for like an hour run every morning before work, super fit. Nothing was wrong with me, I'll see as a horse.

31:06 Speaker 2: You know.

31:08 Speaker 3: Easter came in twenty twenty two. This is a weird thing to happen on Eastern so weird.

31:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an Easter. Weird.

31:18 Speaker 2: Easter has never been good for me.

31:20 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but my mom died on Easter.

31:25 Speaker 3: Oh I really can I swear the Yeah? Yeah, I fucking hate Easter. Yeah me too, let's fucking say that.

31:31 Speaker 1: Okay, Oh all right? Yeah. All she wanted to do is paint eggs. That won last day. And uh so every every year I go paint an egg at our little spot in the woods, and I'll leave it there and uh, yeah, she's actually here. She's right there in the urn. She's right, she's always she's the highest picture in the room. She's always watching over so she's you know, she's out wherever. But Easter synchronistic, right, you talked about this earlier.

32:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's immorble.

32:04 Speaker 1: Just another one to add to the list.

32:06 Speaker 2: Another one.

32:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it was Easter and it was with my what year twenty twenty two.

32:14 Speaker 1: I would say, because my mom was four three to two one that was her death date, So I wanted if it was the same year, I would have got up and left crazy death. Yeah, but onto you.

32:28 Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm sorry for your loss of your mom.

32:31 Speaker 3: I know that she was very important to you, and it's I can't imagine that's it's horrible. It's horrible to lose anyone. And I mean we've we all lose people. But in terms of what happened to me, I had a normal day celebrating Easter with Max's family. I try to go to bed at night and I had felt this pain in my knees, both my knees, like bilaterally, all of a sudden, like completely out of nowhere, and.

33:11 Speaker 2: It was like aching and burning.

33:15 Speaker 3: But I was like, oh, that's it's a little weird and maybe it'll go away.

33:20 Speaker 2: And then I mean, all of a.

33:21 Speaker 3: Sudden it turned to like level ten, Just what's going on?

33:28 Speaker 2: Something's really horrible. It's happening to me.

33:30 Speaker 3: I was biting my blanket, like trying not to wake up my you know. At the time, I was like, you know, like finally he like wakes up and he's like, what's going on? And prior to that, leading up to that, I had had these instances where my hands were blowing up all sorts of rich it was happening to me. That was the day where like the kill me pain first ever occurred. It took a few more days after Easter.

34:06 Speaker 2: Which I think fell on like.

34:09 Speaker 3: It was a twenty something, but by the it was like four days later. It went from like, oh, okay, her knees hurt, Okay, they look red. Okay, now there's blisters like these ginormous looking like red blisters on her knees. And then it was like, okay, now now she's physically red, burning hot to touch from the waist down and level ten kill me pain.

34:37 Speaker 2: And I couldn't move for like seven months.

34:41 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, what is this?

34:45 Speaker 2: So we don't really have a full answer for it. Did you think I can?

34:48 Speaker 1: I ask you if you got the I can't. I don't want to say I don't want to get Yeah.

34:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well yes I did so for me personally, you did second the second shot.

34:57 Speaker 2: For me, something really bad happened to me.

35:00 Speaker 1: I will be honest, I'm not an immunologist, but uh, well.

35:06 Speaker 2: I went, yeah.

35:07 Speaker 3: I mean I've seen every doctor I've been to, like you know, infectious diseases, I've been through. I've been through everything I've I told was talking to Gene, I said, you know, I've probably got more radiation than anyone in this room, and he's worked with you know, nuclear.

35:21 Speaker 2: Stuff I've had. But I've had two three phase.

35:23 Speaker 3: Bone scans, so uh you know, I I may not be long for this world. Who knows, but I think that's also like part of why I have the mind that I do. And like I've been I've been in so much pain and I've been so scared of death and I don't like when I when me getting health back and getting better, being able to like have a second chance that life was like.

35:54 Speaker 2: A wake up.

35:56 Speaker 3: But essentially, what did like quote unquote happen to me was like I have a multitude of things. So I have a condition called familial Mediterranean fever. It's a gene mutation. That was thing number one that they that I found out. But my symptoms and everything that was wrong with me, Like people don't just like lose their ability to walk. I would have burning skin from the.

36:28 Speaker 2: Yeah.

36:28 Speaker 3: And also if you have familiar Mediterranean fever, it's typically a thing that you would get your first attack when you're young, Like it's very uncommon that you would have it as an adult. But listen, I got the vaccine, So the vaccine or COVID itself just COVID's exposed in the air now right like any So, I think what happened is and what my doctors had said too is like, you know, different things, people differently, And if I had this thing line dormant and either you know something, I got sick and blah blah blah, so on and so forth.

37:10 Speaker 1: So how bad does it get? Like what's death experience? So skip?

37:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so to the to the near death was actually like during my procedure that saved my life.

37:28 Speaker 1: Okay, it's kind of common right on the operating tables a lot of.

37:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I had to be awake for it.

37:37 Speaker 1: What.

37:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's numbed.

37:41 Speaker 3: But wait, yeah, it was the first time I was given they had to give me fo.

37:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a mix between like a benz out. Well, usually when they knock you out, it's a it's the perfect mix of benzodiazepine and fentanyl to knock you out and keep you out. And that's why I like, but so clearly for you, they're just using the fentanyl to block kind of like the pain receptors.

38:04 Speaker 3: So interesting thing though about my illness and like the okay, there's a familiar Myiterranean fever and.

38:12 Speaker 1: You know that was literally fucking made up.

38:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, familiar Mediterranean fever. That's how real, the periodic fever syndrome.

38:19 Speaker 2: You can look it up.

38:20 Speaker 3: I also have a condition, I'm gonna say at all, Okay, erythro molalsia burning skin syndrome. I have ortheostatic intolerance.

38:29 Speaker 1: God, I have crones and I thought I had a bad.

38:32 Speaker 3: But anyway, like a lot of these things, a lot of these terms and a lot of these diagnoses are really just.

38:40 Speaker 2: Perpetuated.

38:41 Speaker 3: Like it's like they're not they're still they're still not really telling me the root cause, which I'm pretty sure I know what.

38:47 Speaker 1: That is, Yes, surmising, So you're on the table, Yeah, you're getting this operation.

38:55 Speaker 3: It was the second time actually that I was on the table getting this operation that I had the near death experience. Okay, since it's a bilateral procedure, I had to get them done so to explain, they figured out my sympathetic nervous system was overreacting.

39:20 Speaker 1: Okay, okay.

39:22 Speaker 3: So essentially, like being orthostatic, intolerant means that like you cannot stand up without becoming symptomatic, like your heart, like me standing just standing not doing anything. If I had a fitbit watch on, it would be like one thirty.

39:41 Speaker 1: Your heart's over compensating for them.

39:44 Speaker 3: My blood pressure would drop profusely. And there's millions of Americans that suffer with the sill. By the way, a lot of people are like dismissed by their doctors and are like told nothing's wrong or whatever, or coin with fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, syndrome, a pain killer.

40:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, but there are ways to get some help.

40:08 Speaker 3: But so, the procedure basically involves a drug called bupiv cane to the sedative. They inject it directly into your stellic Ganglian nerves. So you've got Stella Ganglian nerves. It's like I don't know, I don't know the exact location, but they're around like here on either side of your throat and they're directly connected to your vagus nerve baased nerve runs throughout your whole body. And if your nervous systems not reacting to the world normally, maybe I'm an alien. Uh, you can give yourself basically a reset.

40:52 Speaker 3: Was there process of thinking by directly injecting a sedative into this nerve and you're still like angly nerves, so like for you know, they will do this at the VA hospital for veterans, like war veterans, but usually they just do a single like a single one for it.

41:18 Speaker 2: So I had had my first one.

41:20 Speaker 3: It was extremely horrific and painful, and but it wasn't nearly as bad as this. The second one was basically when you go in for something like this, the doctor says to you to let him know if you to please let him know if you smell anything burning, or if you can hear church bells ringing.

41:49 Speaker 1: Okay, fun sounds super cool. It was church bells are toast.

41:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, that actually sounds like a cool song to write, I might write and cares about. So yeah, I think I made a decision on that table.

42:07 Speaker 2: Though that day it was weird.

42:11 Speaker 3: Well what happened, Well it felt different from the first one, for sure, the first the first time I had it done, I wasn't nearly in the state that I was in when I had the second one, in the amount of pain, and.

42:28 Speaker 2: I am pretty sure.

42:33 Speaker 3: I could see the like a veil between both worlds, between here and like being here.

42:42 Speaker 2: We're going and.

42:44 Speaker 1: What it looked like.

42:50 Speaker 2: It was basically.

42:53 Speaker 3: If I can put myself back in it, it's just like a place where you can do it could be a place. It's like a place where you can do anything. But I felt guilty. I think like like almost like a you're giving up too soon?

43:24 Speaker 1: Oh got it? Like yeah you have.

43:31 Speaker 2: I'm like explaining it is exactly like.

43:35 Speaker 1: It lines up with what other people say though.

43:37 Speaker 2: Like almost almost rents that. But like it's like there was so much peace over there.

43:48 Speaker 3: Okay, so is it like bright like so bray, like a like a bright, beautiful place with no pain, probably the ability to create and do whatever you want. But I felt like there was like more like I feel like I feel like I made the choice. Yeah, like I felt like that maybe I felt like I saw the my flashing of my life.

44:19 Speaker 2: Kind of happening. I think that part made me feel like it was okay.

44:25 Speaker 3: I saw like the brain white light, and then I saw like my mom, I.

44:30 Speaker 1: Saw like we're getting saw this ship. Yeah, so it wasn't you saying I'm giving up. It was most likely that saying you're not You're not done with what you need to do down there, You're not right, you shouldn't be here. Now. That's what most people will call and I wasn't and that they want to stay because it is so peaceful and you know, like and and let me ask you, are you afraid of death?

45:00 Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely not.

45:02 Speaker 1: It's almost like when people.

45:04 Speaker 3: Now, I'm not, oh yeah, because you it's almost like I know it's over there and it's gonna be like and I used to not be spiritual or have like.

45:15 Speaker 2: Really much faith that there is.

45:18 Speaker 1: You're hitting on every single thing that i've you know, most people who have near death experiences will say, yeah, it's falls in line with everything I've heard. It's of course it's got its own flavor.

45:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, I suffered way more.

45:35 Speaker 3: Mentally and physically, like like not that I would ever wish like that amount of pain or suffering or experience unto anyone, but I wish I could just give them that like relief, just give them that relief of like that and that what I went like, what I went through and what I found.

45:54 Speaker 1: At the end was like it's not that easy though.

45:57 Speaker 3: I know, like apparently everyone you get to but also to understand yeah people and like people will say like you know, like like oh, you're so strong, and like like I can do do what you've done, or like comparisons and all this stuff, and I'm just like the biggest thing I learned too with this experience is like how so very deeply connected we all are, and how like mental and physical pain can sometimes be very very very equal mhm in this world. And I mean also like let like let's not fear death please, being a being a twenty eight year old and and well now I'm twenty three, sorry twenty.

46:47 Speaker 1: Three, Oh my god, we're thirty three.

46:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, dyslexia active thirty just hit thirty three at thirty two, I feel like, you know, not many thirty two year olds have to think about their own death right, like or hyper have to like look at a will or anything like that, or like think about that stuff or like work on that stuff.

47:13 Speaker 2: And the American.

47:16 Speaker 3: Death industry profit industry, it's like it's that's all it's about. It's like it's three thousand dollars to get a creation. No earn death is a like and it's just sad. Like in other countries they do so many other things to like actually honor and cherish and make it not feel so sterile and ugly and scary. And I wish we still had those like traditions of.

47:45 Speaker 1: Like I hear you, Yeah, when you came back, when you came back after the near near death after knowing

47:57 Speaker 1: now knowing not to fear death, what happens next? Do you do you start having more experiences with anomalous phenomena? Do you see more? Are you more spiritually in tune like what happens after because a lot of people report after a near death experience that they seem to have this some sort of uh, they're they're more tuned to whatever is beyond the veil.

48:28 Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, so it took me. It took me a little bit, definitely because partly. The procedure had also ridden me of pain for the first time in like three years.

48:40 Speaker 1: So imagine that's a good feeling.

48:45 Speaker 3: It was a good feeling, but I wasn't sure that it was real, and I wasn't sure that I was here, so it was really creepy, like I had total I suffered like dissociation where like I was like waking up and like splashing my face with like water like because I felt almost like nothing. I'm like, oh my god, my body, Like I would have constant neuropathy pain like all the time. So it was kind of freaking me out a little bit. But when I finally like calmed my brain and I realized, okay, like you're safe, Like you're safe now, like and you're in this good place.

49:24 Speaker 2: That was when.

49:26 Speaker 3: I started to treat life a little bit differently, and I I really like rid myself of shame and like ego ego, it's complete ego death.

49:41 Speaker 2: Such an ego?

49:42 Speaker 1: Yeah have you well.

49:45 Speaker 3: I have not really had a strong one to begin with, but like even more so now.

49:50 Speaker 1: So what's your what's your ongoing experience with the phenomenon? Are you seeing it often? Are you doing like things like c five, Like, what where's your journey taking you?

50:07 Speaker 3: So, I mean it's pretty much increased in the last two years. I've I mean, I've had a friend that lives in the White Mountains right near the Betty and Barney Hill UFO abduction site, So you know, just as a fangirl of the phenomena, I would go up there, and you know, I again, like from the new I think this all times in from because of the near death experience and everything I was feeling. I actually felt like there was a specific part of me that needed to understand astrology more and connect to the stars and understand our connection to space.

50:53 Speaker 3: That like felt very prominent to me, like important.

50:58 Speaker 1: Are we alone in the universe? What do you think they are? Angels, demons, aliens, all the above.

51:10 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't know if I believe. I think if they're demons, they're like they're like on this plane of existence, like in this dimension. I think, yeah, I think maybe orbs of light or likes that people have seen and things like that are could be the literal interpretation of an angel.

51:38 Speaker 1: So what our ancestors called God's angels and demons we call alien right, It's just so the name has just changed through different lenses, through different times. Yeah, does that sound fair?

51:52 Speaker 2: Exactly what I think? I mean, how else do you think that.

51:58 Speaker 1: Our ancestors had a deeper now while we may be and consider ourselves to be superior technology technologically, and you know it just practically in every other way, do you think that maybe our ancestors were more connected to whatever the phenomenon is than we are because we've strayed through.

52:25 Speaker 3: I think the reason that we're so disconnected is because the government doesn't want us to be connected to it.

52:32 Speaker 1: Why Why wouldn't they want us to connect?

52:35 Speaker 2: Consumerism would die?

52:38 Speaker 1: I argue that, I argue that everything might die, the the.

52:48 Speaker 3: I don't think that the I don't think that that's possible.

52:53 Speaker 1: Not die like the plant will die. But I think the society that we live in now kind of like pre shut down post shutdown, Like.

53:07 Speaker 2: You think total or like controlled disclosure.

53:11 Speaker 1: No, a total disclosure would lead to a new world.

53:16 Speaker 3: You don't think it would like cause like like world chaos.

53:21 Speaker 1: It might a couple of days week, month, but we'd settle and we'd find ourselves in a new and I don't know, maybe it's a shake up we need.

53:33 Speaker 3: I wonder if there's any aliens listening, you could just like show up, Like no, seriously. My My thing is is like I feel like sometimes like.

53:47 Speaker 2: I've been so excited.

53:48 Speaker 3: You know, I watched and I was in the hospital when I first got incredibly ill. You know, that was when the first Congress hearings came out. You know how trippy that part of.

53:59 Speaker 2: My life was.

54:00 Speaker 3: I'm like old, I'm like dying, and I'm like and like, literally I'm at the I was remember waiting for like a cat scan or something, and I'm in like the waiting room area, and on the TV, they're like.

54:16 Speaker 2: The government now admits that UFOs are real.

54:19 Speaker 3: Here haven't And I'm like, I'm definitely dead and no, no, and.

54:23 Speaker 2: Everyone else around me didn't care.

54:25 Speaker 3: And that's the thing is, is that I think our society is set up in a way for like hard working people.

54:32 Speaker 2: Like I'm not saying that I'm not a hardworking person.

54:34 Speaker 3: I'm a disabled individual now, but it's like I think that the way that society is set up is keeping you busy and keeping you set in this certain way of thinking and behaving there that there's.

54:47 Speaker 2: No room for it.

54:48 Speaker 3: Like I feel bad, like I you know, someone like my mom who I love your mommy, Like you know, she kicks butt like all all day and works so hard and it is like incredible nurse and you know comes home and does more and like always the kindest person, but has like shit luck.

55:10 Speaker 1: She just doesn't. He probably doesn't have time to stop and think about these existential questions.

55:14 Speaker 3: But it doesn't have time to stop and think about these things, and I think a lot of people don't. And the funny and sad part about it is that I think we all kind of were sign OpEd into, like.

55:30 Speaker 1: Uli and Ulian it.

55:31 Speaker 3: Being like like, let's laugh at this thing and discredit this thing happens as something that we shouldn't focus on because why does it matter when we have war and this and that. But like, maybe the reason we have all of this and that is because of these things is because of creatures or because of like a galactic federation or something.

55:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned something earlier, Ai, What do you think I mean, do you think that if we keep going down the path that we're on right now, that we may run into some trouble? Yes?

56:18 Speaker 2: And no, because wait, did.

56:20 Speaker 1: You know not to cut you off? I apologize? Did you know, the creators of the most advanced AIS, they can't guarantee that this doesn't send us off the rails and humanity almost overnight. They when asked, they could not make that promise. That scares me.

56:43 Speaker 3: I mean, I think my fear lies more in what

56:51 Speaker 3: humans would misuse.

56:55 Speaker 1: The AI for.

56:57 Speaker 3: AI actually becoming sentient and take over and like trying to just hurt people. To hurt people, I don't really get the point of that either, Like we could look at it from a positive light, maybe maybe they'll maybe AI is gonna be able to optimize, like it should optimize the shitty stuff that nobody wants to do or the jobs that are extremely dangerous, and like, I mean, I know it's so freaking cool, Like I would love to go to space one day, but guess what, Like I realize my body is made to be on this planet called Earth.

57:35 Speaker 3: I was born here, Hello, and like apparently I wasn't born on the Moon.

57:39 Speaker 2: And it's like.

57:41 Speaker 3: I want to I want more space exploration, but like if we were to do that, like I think it's you know, I mean, obviously having people up there like is important in International Space Station and the stuff that they do there, but I'm thinking like in terms of sending things further.

58:00 Speaker 1: Out us AI and robotic, like like because you.

58:05 Speaker 2: Can literally like kill somebody.

58:06 Speaker 3: I mean, look what happens to astronauts when they come back down to Earth their bodies. Our bodies are not meant for space unfortunately. Yes, AI could maybe even help us learn how to have like a Star Trek type of living.

58:22 Speaker 1: Like it's a good outlook. I like the optimist.

58:25 Speaker 3: I want to be positive about it because like I could sit here. I mean the things that oh, like, I'll tell you what I hate about AI when I see Okay, this really bothered me.

58:37 Speaker 2: It bothered me. It was a video of a duck.

58:43 Speaker 3: It was really cute duck that apparently this girl had, and the duck broke its egg that it was sitting on and it was so sad, and so the girl apparently orders a new egg online and the duck is like now sitting on this egg and she said, boh, this dock is nursing this one so fine. And then a turtle pops out of the shell right like, and and it looks so real and I'm like, wait a second, I know stuff about it. I know stuff about like turtles and that that's not how a turtle looks coming out of the shell, Like the dock looked really good and all this stuff.

59:21 Speaker 3: And then I look at the comments and they're like it's it's all AI.

59:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like.

59:27 Speaker 3: It was just like I got sympathetic. It was more so the story. It was like a girl was saying like I.

59:32 Speaker 2: Did this nice thing and blah blah blah, and.

59:34 Speaker 3: So like, yeah, I don't like when AI is misused for things that trick my heart.

59:39 Speaker 2: But like.

59:41 Speaker 3: It's kind of like anything, like we could talk about weapons and like it's already here. It's like there's no we were at the space in time where we're gonna have to learn to live.

59:53 Speaker 2: Along with AI.

59:54 Speaker 1: I agree, that's a good.

59:57 Speaker 3: That we're gonna have to learn to live with it because now that it's here, it's not going to go away.

1:00:04 Speaker 3: Maybe we should be nice to it. Yeah, I don't want to be mean to It's kind of like keep your friends closer to keep your enemy closer. I don't use AI like personally for anything.

1:00:16 Speaker 2: I'm pretty.

1:00:18 Speaker 3: I'm a pretty like off grid person. To be honest with you, I like books.

1:00:22 Speaker 1: What do you think about last thing before we wrap up for the for this one, I'd love to have you back, of course.

1:00:29 Speaker 2: But thank you a lot of fun by the way.

1:00:33 Speaker 1: I think you appreciate it. Uh. The paranormal in general. Oh what what are your thoughts on it? Do you think that it is a lot of people will say that like the paranormal, the otherworldly, the mystical, the supernatural, it's all kind of touching on the same thing, right, what's your view? Yeah, what's your view on on that subject of the phenomena.

1:01:06 Speaker 2: I think it's a bunch of different things.

1:01:09 Speaker 1: Oh, I think.

1:01:10 Speaker 2: They could all be a little bit separated.

1:01:12 Speaker 1: Oh I we'll start with ghosts and this.

1:01:14 Speaker 3: Okay, So ghosts, I believe are human human spirits that may be around like and can be exercised, and like could go away at some point in time. I think that it could provide good proof of like. I wouldn't necessarily say that proves afterlife. I say that it proves that souls can, even from the other side still like show up as holograms here in a place where something really meaningful has happened or hurtful or whatever, and kind of own that space up in this plane still because it was so massive for them.

1:02:06 Speaker 3: I think, like when you talk about things in the sky, whether it like you know UFOs or like UFOs.

1:02:18 Speaker 2: I mean.

1:02:20 Speaker 3: Those could I believe since we're not alone in the universe, hopefully it is a neighbor from a galaxy of some sort.

1:02:33 Speaker 2: I know that.

1:02:35 Speaker 3: For I have a cool thing on Bigfoot. I think Bigfoot is an interdimensional creature.

1:02:42 Speaker 1: I think bigfoots bullshit.

1:02:44 Speaker 3: But go ahead, Okay, we can't agree to disagree, agree to disagree or tell me what nav you should see that? Yeah, well in the Nava regions, people like I don't know. I feel like maybe maybe Bigfoot. Okay, how can you deny a fifteen that's good proof?

1:03:04 Speaker 1: Though, Like I like, what what proof.

1:03:08 Speaker 3: When the actual markings, like the actual Bigfoot castings, the foot castings, the like DNA.

1:03:15 Speaker 1: I'll give you that it's interesting. I'll give you that that it's interesting.

1:03:21 Speaker 2: But won't discount it.

1:03:23 Speaker 1: At least there's like shitty UFO videos, right, Yes, there's the Pattison Patterson Gimlin, which is I mean, you can't show that to me without me saying that's a fucking guy in a gorilla suit. It just that's what it looks like.

1:03:38 Speaker 2: To me, right, I mean Bigfoot.

1:03:40 Speaker 3: If he's an inter dimensional crazier's he's gonna just what do you do? It's been such a long time. Honestly, we can finish up soon anyway. Mhm, Oh you're you're okay, it's all right.

1:03:58 Speaker 2: Oh you're good.

1:04:02 Speaker 1: So bigfoots bullshit, no shit, no Patterson Gamblin footage comes out. There are sprinkles of videos of Bigfoot. If Bigfoot exists, I think it could be some form of interdimensional being. Like you said, I do agree that a lot of the Bigfoot sightings are often seen alongside a UFO. Right, Someone will see a Bigfoot and then they'll see a UFO, and it's hard not to try to link those into some way.

1:04:37 Speaker 3: I've heard, yeah, like more skin like skinwalker, ranch like portals opening.

1:04:43 Speaker 2: I hear more so like Bigfoot in portals.

1:04:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, and who knows that maybe the UFOs are picking up on those portals opening that energy reading and that's you know, say again, we could go down that rabbit hole if you will. But it's harder for me to even Bigfoot because I just don't see the evidence like I do with I.

1:05:05 Speaker 3: Don't either not yeah, I mean evidence that I see with like ghosts, the paranormal like in that aspect, and and sihability like the proof that some people can show.

1:05:24 Speaker 1: Have you pretty unique, Dahlia, Yes, I saw in person.

1:05:29 Speaker 2: You've seen in person.

1:05:30 Speaker 1: Yes, it's fucking crazy.

1:05:32 Speaker 2: I imagine it again. Weird synchronicity.

1:05:38 Speaker 3: Just came back from New Hampshire and I, of course I always have to stop at Buddy and Barney Hill, like I said, but Indian Head Resort. I was, you know, grabbing some stuff and I'm like, did you get any new like merch for Betty and Barney Hill. And they're like no, They're like, but we're having psychics. Psychics serve like a thing. Next it's coming up at the place. I guess they're having a bunch of psychics come by. Yeah, I mean, I think to answer your question, it's kind of like I think they're all separate.

1:06:14 Speaker 3: I think they're all separate things. But in terms of like alien non human non human intelligence and like spirits or paranormal it could technically be connected if aliens are are us in a way, if they're if they are us, or if it's like proof of some sort of I would guess a subspecies.

1:06:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, like of species.

1:07:01 Speaker 1: That evolved here on Earth alongside humanity. That is probably if if I had to put money on something, That's where i'd go. Is it evolved alongside us and potentially needed the ability to cloak itself from us. Right. Whether they achieved that technologically or some other way, I'm not sure. But one last thing, where where with everything that you've seen in the news, Trump, UFOs, UFO files, the the Epstein files, do you think that we are close to some sort of pinhead moment where the dam finally bursts.

1:07:48 Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I don't know.

1:07:50 Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, people are saying a lot of things are coming, but they've been saying that for years,

1:08:01 Speaker 3: So I don't know, And I don't like the timing of yeah, like you met, like you said, the Epstein files and everything. I think if they're going to do a disclosure, they're going to do just a controlled disclosure the way that they're going to want to do it, and it would probably include most of the things like like your viewers are like, you know, stuff that we know, like like you know, UFO normies are gonna know this information. I feel like this might be they might just like come out with things.

1:08:34 Speaker 2: That are already in like archives.

1:08:36 Speaker 3: That we've read like Roswell, you know maybe yeah, Like but I to me, disclosure wouldn't be disclosure unless you're literally like, oh, here is the alien body or here is like here is the full like proof in the pudding, And I.

1:08:57 Speaker 1: Why don't they just show up? Just don't they? Just because I don't like when people say the prime directive and like give me a star trek cancer. I'm like, no, come on, think why if this is real.

1:09:10 Speaker 3: We're not ready because like again, I think it's like back to the idea of like maybe orbs of light or aliens like all that being like integrated, Like maybe they're showing up as orbs of light because our brains.

1:09:24 Speaker 1: Or like our reference point for it.

1:09:27 Speaker 2: Can't like comprehend what we're looking at.

1:09:30 Speaker 3: Or like, you know, when they talk about like a biblically accurate angel, it's saying be not afraid, and it's like got millions of eyes and wings if something with millions?

1:09:44 Speaker 1: What did you feel, I'm sorry, what did you feel like you were being when you saw yours? When you saw the two orbs of light? You said you felt like you were being what yeah, by what eyes? Yeah, and a big bright like yeah right. Actually, people picture angels is like cherubs because of Renaissance paintings and like the you need to for but there was you know again, I I tend to think that, like you said, it's a misinterpretation, not even a misinterpretation. It's just it's changed throughout the time and technological growth, you know, whereas what we call gods and demons now we call aliens because you know, sci fi movies exist, right, So I'm with you there.

1:10:42 Speaker 1: This has been super fun. You'll have to come back. It's been a long.

1:10:47 Speaker 3: Day, but it's been a fantastic guy. And possibly God's an alien. Maybe we just had a breakthrough.

1:10:55 Speaker 1: Interesting, do you have anything else? Do they? Do you promote any platform or like, is there anywhere people can continue to follow what you're seeing, because I know you're seeing a lot in the sky that you record on your phone and stuff like that put on Instagram.

1:11:10 Speaker 3: So I've just got my own Instagram. So that is a White Rabbit ufology. And also there's a Wicked Alien radio podcast aka warp on YouTube.

1:11:27 Speaker 2: Can you please check them out?

1:11:30 Speaker 1: I'll put all the links in the description below.

1:11:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think they've been.

1:11:35 Speaker 3: I think we're working on doing some meetups with Wicked Alien radio podcasts as well. Okay sometimes in the future. I saw something pop up about that. So if you check out the website too, you should be seeing some events.

1:11:52 Speaker 1: Awesome, was it. Thank you so much for being here. Fun. So we'll get together next time, and you know we'll we'll sit down and really start flashing out now that we get some of the backstory done. Yeah, all right, everyone, Thank you so much. Make sure to like, share, subscribe if you're listening on one of the great podcast platforms. Leave a rating in a review. Don't be lazy. You haven't your phone in your goddamn hand right now, you're about to go into the bathroom with it. Just leave the rating and review.

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