BONUS SEGMENT- The Questions NOBODY DARES ASK| Ft. ADAM EISENBERG Pentagon First Responder On 9/11| MEMBERS ONLY PREVIEW

0:16 Speaker 1: Sist.

1:29 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. This is the bonus segment for those of you that do pay the membership fee and do help us in that extra way. I've been looking forward to developing the segment because now that we are flying people in and bringing people in studio, there is that opportunity for a little bonus segment or rapid fires I like to call it.

1:57 Speaker 3: Now.

1:57 Speaker 2: For this episode, I did not ask for questions from members because I just didn't think that that would be a good way to conduct it. So what I'm gonna do in this one is I've added Adam here from the episode we just did on nine to eleven. He was a first responder firefighter on the day of September eleventh, working with what is called the Old Guard and essentially was called in and worked over two hundred and forty hours there. So I'm gonna ask you, Adam some rapid fire questions here and again this is just for the members only, so we can, you know, let our hair down a little.

2:43 Speaker 3: Oh no, We're going to be authentic.

2:47 Speaker 2: So after everything he witnessed firsthand, what was it like to watch the American people be deceived right in front of your eyes? And what did that make you feel in terms of your service to that same country.

3:05 Speaker 3: I really didn't understand the way we were being deceived in regarding that incident for a number of years down the line. So my understanding of what took place and putting all the pieces together is even somebody that had quite a bit of access that that was really hard for me to come to terms with. So yeah, I

3:34 Speaker 3: let's just say between that and another a number of other incidents that have occurred. You know, I try to give grace because of the levels of deception that I've been able to see and even that are present, like with COVID and all the incidents that have gone all the way back to like when the nine to eleven really occurred. Yeah, the financial catastrophes, all the fans, the places where accountability wasn't had still to this day. We talked a little bit about Fauci and how he can't be held accountable.

4:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you believe in the Epstein files, why is there no accountability there?

4:14 Speaker 2: We'll think about this when George Floyd, when that whole thing happened right as terrible as it was, right, And you can argue whatever political side you want of that right with the Black Lives matter, the all lives matter, the blue lives like, listen, all life is precious, of course, right, and no one wants to see any life taken. But they they took to the streets, they marched, they looted, they rioted, they lit shit on fire in cities across the country. And then the Epstein files come out and they're about our children and our women.

5:00 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. And where are the protesters were? Where are the people taken to the streets for the kids? Where? Where is where's all the outrage for the app for for for for what was being done to the children and women that that that were underage men, to underage boys. Where Where's where are those same people for them?

5:30 Speaker 3: And you know, we can look at a number of issues where it's like why is this happening? Why is this not happening for me? You know, everything that I do is is nine to eleven based. Yeah, you're right, there's there's so many things that we face right now.

5:45 Speaker 2: But it's just clearly like been designed, Like the protest thing, It's like even what we think is rebellion has been orchestrated. It's all a big song and dumb number dance. So I don't know if I just said that it's all a big number song and dance number, song and dance number.

6:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, where we were going about it was just like I was trying to I couldn't.

6:12 Speaker 2: Grab the word. It's all one big Sos Jesus Christ, one big dance number, and it's orchestrated and it's like it's like professional wrestling or like a drama. It's it's got its You know.

6:26 Speaker 3: How that applies in my world because we're talking nine to eleven here, the effort that I have witnessed as an activist and witness to this event, and the places and the people it all ties in, and the parts of the world, and the the very coordinated effort, I guess you could say it doesn't surprise me that these type of incidents occur. And again, I when all the lights are on between this in the last twenty five years, what's really taken place. People are going to truly come to terms. And so that's all I can say is all the world is a stage.

7:09 Speaker 3: We talked a little bit off record, off mic just about some of the things that I have witnessed with my own experience and these people that that I'm speaking of. They're they're the experts, so to speak, they're the influencers. They're the ones that are being flown all over the world.

7:27 Speaker 2: To give lectures and.

7:29 Speaker 3: This this this boundary, and you got to you get to ask yourself, you know, like, you know, how do we hold these people accountable when they claim that they're one thing and they're actually not. Does that make sense?

7:45 Speaker 2: It does? It does? It does because they're pretending to seek truth, but their actual goal is to keep people in check. And that's a that's a very conundric That's why I made up word by that's a that's a conundrument itself, and it's contradictory in the way I see it.

8:06 Speaker 3: Well, you just have to try to understand what people's overall objectives are and and does it lead to a courtroom.

8:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, or an indictment or does it lead to or does it stayed in a paycheck?

8:25 Speaker 3: A paycheck?

8:27 Speaker 2: Yeah?

8:28 Speaker 3: You know. There's there's a lot of people right now that are speaking on a number of issues, and I think we really have to stop and ask ourselves, like, how do we truly understand the motives of this person? Like where do they come from what's behind them, because I can tell you, like I I I I get why some people are really really critical with me. I understand that's why I go so crazy with the evidence that I bring. It's it's it's necessary right now.

9:05 Speaker 2: Right right to like balance like to outbalance or balance out what they're trying to pin against you.

9:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, truth in every regard is being without question like challenge right now, right the battle for perception is very much at hand.

9:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I couldn't agree more. Actually, I think people's attention is is is something that does have Oh man, you spot on do you think that President Bush was aware of nine to eleven or what I shouldn't say nine to eleven? But do you think he was aware of the attacks and involved in the ultimate like cover up of nine to eleven?

9:56 Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm going to promote what my evidence shows, not what I believe. Right now, if a federal apparatus were to require that I show evidence that my lead suspect had connection to the White House, I could say, yes, I have that by way of a confession about a phone call that would have been made had things not going his you know, his way, when he was conducting operations that day. He was said, you know, I'm going to call the White House, you know, and he was allegedly saying these things to the war room of the Pentagon his words, not mine.

10:40 Speaker 3: The claims that were being made have been made over like the last five years about the types of access that this individual had that day,

10:54 Speaker 3: you know that would.

10:55 Speaker 2: You're talking about that individual's name.

10:59 Speaker 3: The individual that I've been investigating, individual Carmen Lee Whielberger of Klew World News. I want him to answer some questions, okay, about what he said in the connections that he had to the president, to the White House his words. Yeah, so you're saying, you know, do I think Bush had involvement? You know, this gentleman who I've been pulling under the microscope for the last five years.

11:28 Speaker 2: You know, he claims to have had ties into the White House.

11:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, claims that day that he was going to call them if he didn't get exactly what he wanted.

11:36 Speaker 2: Very interesting, very interesting, my friend.

11:39 Speaker 3: I have, like I said, I'm going to include the video, the seven and a half hour video with this so you can release it all. But I did a an almost an eight hour long presentation on why this individual should be looked at as a potential candidate to have been a part of whatever type of incendiary incident took place. Okay, because look at the the entire array of evidence that's available, the people that have come forward on this issue. It's I mean, I myself for the last two plus years now have a five thousand dollars debate challenge out, and I said to anybody, I'll put up five thousand dollars.

12:27 Speaker 3: You put up five thousand dollars. When I win, I'll donate the money to stop soldier suicide. Like I don't, I won't keep the money. I refuse.

12:35 Speaker 2: I'll host that.

12:37 Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, because we'll host that.

12:39 Speaker 3: Jason and Matt at the Free Thought Projects said that they would they would also love to take part in that.

12:44 Speaker 2: I would love to.

12:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, that challenge went out to the world's experts, and yeah, I throw down on that. They refuse to take me up on my challenge.

12:54 Speaker 2: All right, Well we'll put that challenge out once more. So final rapid fire. Well, no, two more, man, I love these questions, by the way, two more.

13:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm serious. This is great. I'm giving you guys, in my humble opinion, the best possible answers. I encourage anybody that I do podcasts with to ask me about you know anything, right, and I'm gonna do my best to answer it.

13:19 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, Donald Rumsfeld famously gave this speech in the the day before nine to eleven where he uh talked about can you look up what the number is? I think it was what is it two point seven trillion or one point seven.

13:36 Speaker 3: Point three trillion?

13:37 Speaker 2: One point three trillion that.

13:39 Speaker 3: Was missing missing.

13:41 Speaker 2: From the Pentagon's audit in.

13:45 Speaker 3: Which we failed. Now I believe eight.

13:47 Speaker 2: In a row. Yeah, or I think it's up to like nine or ten.

13:51 Speaker 3: Now they keep I think it's eight, and they just keep saying, but we're really we're really proud and happy.

13:55 Speaker 2: With with what we've accomplished.

13:57 Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's great. So what would happen if we worked at Like, dude.

14:02 Speaker 2: You would be in fucking jail if you owed one point one point one million.

14:08 Speaker 3: Yes, stole over the course of a year, like you know, a thousand or two thousand dollars from the tip jar. You know, do you think people would you.

14:15 Speaker 2: Know, you'd be you'd be indicted, you'd be in you'd be in a federal prison. Somewhere for I R s uh, you know, audit tax fraud. But two point three trillion dollars. So Donald Trump says, makes the speech the next day. The Pentagon, the exact portion of the Pentagon that holds all the top secret files and the the budget, uh, the black budget.

14:46 Speaker 4: Yeah, instigated all the accounting stuff.

14:51 Speaker 2: That's the part of the Pentagon that gets hit by a plane and all that evidence, uh, and all that

15:00 Speaker 2: all that documentation, you know, is incinerated, quote unquote. But then a week after nine to eleven, we we He comes back on and says, by the way, we found the two point three trillion. Don't worry about it.

15:15 Speaker 3: Don't worry about it.

15:16 Speaker 2: Don't worry about that. So what do you think about? What do you what do you make of that little piece of evidence? That's something weird was going on?

15:27 Speaker 3: The one point three Well, yeah, I looked to all the fames two point three. I looked at all the fames.

15:33 Speaker 2: That's in two thousand and one, given inflation, that's like sixteen trillion. Probably.

15:39 Speaker 3: Well, my my research also shows, I mean, and anybody can look this up, what was the national debt in two thousand and one? It's like five trillion. I think if I had to guess up the top of my head, I mean, please, we've got ai Please, I think it was like around five trillion. But how many empires over the course of history can we look at to say that place ended due to military overexpansion, fighting wars on multiple fronts, Like it's it's very obvious if you understand.

16:13 Speaker 4: History, you're going to repeat itself itself.

16:15 Speaker 3: And it's yeah, so you.

16:17 Speaker 2: Do you think America is going through a collapse?

16:20 Speaker 3: We were going through something. And again, this is where I have to encourage people. Mike Lofgren I believe is his name Anatomy of the Deep State. He's written quite a bit about it. We're just going through this place where there's a trans national structure of power that has systematically inserted itself and has basically been able to dominate the larger population. And you know, the words were policy coup I believe by General Wesley Clark. Shortly after September eleventh occurred. He was in the scuttle was he talking about you know, his friends saying all these things about these operations that were coming to Fruition, And they're like, you know, He's like, I don't know.

17:07 Speaker 3: Now it's like seven countries and it's just they didn't even understand.

17:11 Speaker 2: Right, you know, that's wild. Yeah, so.

17:18 Speaker 3: The United States?

17:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, good memory.

17:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, and what is it now?

17:25 Speaker 2: Forty so given inflation, that two point three trillion.

17:29 Speaker 3: That was missing is like everything is up.

17:32 Speaker 2: But that's crazy to me that that exact portion of the Pentagon gets hit with a clearly what not a plane like you said, but it gets evaporated by just by you know, catastrophe.

17:45 Speaker 3: And there's two also things to really consider in that part of the building. I think that's absolutely a relevant thing, the missing money investigation, the people that might have lost their lives. But then there's the I think that that specific part of the building was used because of the de I A component, you know, the intelligence wing, which makes no mistake about it, the intelligence wings control everything. At least my research leads me to believe that. But the d I A was located right there.

18:15 Speaker 3: It was also a portion of the building that was undergoing significant renovation, so nobody was in that part.

18:22 Speaker 2: The least amount of casualty possible.

18:24 Speaker 3: And coincidentally, and thank god for this, my my research is going to show that depentingon renovation a k a. Pen Rent. It needs to be looked into. They were donating money to a lot of candidates that were you know, neocons and things of that nature, and so you know they also were benefiting.

18:46 Speaker 2: They're playing both sides.

18:47 Speaker 3: Lee lee Evy was in the in the earliest days. This is the head of the pen Rent project. He was evading questions from the public, deflecting. He specifically also talks about this one witness that was allegedly almost ingested into the engine. That tells me logically that somebody on pen Ren's team would be willing to testify against or excuse me in favor of the official narrative. And I don't think they maybe had to pull that person out of the woodline to do that. But when he was addressed, you know, to ask questions about these witnesses, they were he was coming up with these answers that were just like, you know, like he would bring up issues about them that had no actual, you know, bearing on that question.

19:35 Speaker 3: Right, He's like, oh, he's a Vietnam veteran, and he would bring up his Vietnam past, and then you know that witness never came forward.

19:44 Speaker 2: So it's yeah, I get it. It's tough, are you.

19:50 Speaker 3: You know, there's so many things that could have happened that day, you guys that I'm just I'm just going to reiterate it. You know, if we really believe that there was a conspiracy, that would have to be people and this like subject. It can't just stay relevant in these spaces and nobody does nothing. We have to get people into a courtroom. And that's my heart to heart biggest criticism of nine to eleven Truth thus far is that, you know, some of the most active players, they they really just talk about like what they believe happened.

20:33 Speaker 3: They they don't point.

20:35 Speaker 2: To there's no action.

20:37 Speaker 3: Well yeah, it's stuck in the mud. It's it. They don't point to actual suspects. And when people come forward with information about where those suspects could possibly be, they they they you know, if you put it right here, they look over here, if you put it over here, and it's they they employed these very clever means to keep the spotlight on them. So it's like, do you do that because that's your grift, you know, or are you doing that because you know that's your way of you know, that's your way of supporting yourself or do you really seek out justice?

21:13 Speaker 3: You know what if justice were to come and the attention would then.

21:17 Speaker 2: Be over here, well then they're out of a job.

21:20 Speaker 3: Yes, And so I hold space for even that. But where I don't hold space for are people that employ very obvious twenty five rules of disinformation.

21:31 Speaker 2: And sign up.

21:33 Speaker 3: And it's it's very obvious to me that these types of people exist. And so when it's it's very heavy in nine to eleven legally to protect you and I I'm not going to start naming names. That's where my second book I want to literally find out like an attorney, It's like, how do I ask people to take certain tests and to go through certain filters? What do I do what information? Ultimately? And this is a question I have for you, even in you as well for anybody listening. What filters can we ask somebody to walk through to prove that they are trustworthy?

22:06 Speaker 2: Right? Last question for the members section, Are you a religious man?

22:12 Speaker 3: I believe in consciousness? Explain there is only consciousness, There is only consciousness, and that thought alone, I think requires deep thought. And I guess the way that I could summarize it is I try to look at all of us like we're we're waves. But ultimately, when that beautiful and sometimes gigantic wave crashes, you're still the ocean. And that's I think the best way that I can put it. There is only consciousness. And I there's a spiritual quote. I forget who said it, but ultimately, if I do harm to you, I'm doing harm myself.

22:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so yeah, you know, I think we're all just trying to walk each other home. And you know, I try to approach everybody like it's basically God and drag. But I think that wholeheartedly we are just all of one consciousness and the thing that we are here to experience is love. Love is I think that's the only.

23:20 Speaker 2: Thing that's eternal.

23:21 Speaker 3: Yeah.

23:22 Speaker 2: It transcends time, everything, space, everything, everything.

23:26 Speaker 3: It's the greatest emotion and it's exact.

23:30 Speaker 2: Because people think it's good versus evil, it's not. Yeah, it's loves.

23:36 Speaker 3: Evil versus darkness.

23:37 Speaker 2: Yeah.

23:38 Speaker 3: I genuinely believe, like you are not here to pay bills and die. There is something much deeper here and I've only I've seen that because.

23:48 Speaker 2: We've robbed of it.

23:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been in that position. I bought into the system. I was a millennial, you know, eighty one. I was part of that generation that thought, oh, we'll just we'll go to college and we'll do well, we'll serve a kund people do well, go to college, and then we'll get out and the opportunities will be there. And that's not the case with us. And we see it very clearly.

24:07 Speaker 2: And you let the corporations take over. Yeah, and without knowing it as well.

24:12 Speaker 3: I've been in that pay bills and die mode and then I've.

24:16 Speaker 2: You let us, you guys, let us lock them, lock us into this because you guys became so complacent on the the like what society meant and that was like by thirty you had to have a wife and a kids in a house.

24:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's what you've locked.

24:32 Speaker 2: Us into this weird structure.

24:34 Speaker 3: Before that does not work for us. Yeah, and it's hard to have discussions sometimes with the people that are still.

24:42 Speaker 2: It wasn't even you, it was it was your parents.

24:44 Speaker 3: Well, it's just it's it was the.

24:46 Speaker 2: World War two. It is really when it kicked. Because if you're that thing, was it, Like, Uh, hard times create or create.

24:55 Speaker 3: Hard times, create difficult or difficult times, create hard people. Hard people create easy times.

25:02 Speaker 2: Easy times create lazy people.

25:05 Speaker 3: Lazy people create hard times, difficult.

25:08 Speaker 2: Times, and then and thus we repeat. So it seems like we're going through one of those transitions right now.

25:13 Speaker 3: That's the best way to put it. And you know, Yuri Besmanov talked about the supreme level of warfare is essentially to get something into a position where it doesn't even know that.

25:26 Speaker 2: It's that it's at war. At war, yeah, and it's just a look at that, look at the United States.

25:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where we're at.

25:34 Speaker 2: But we have no idea that we're fighting proxy wars all over the globe.

25:39 Speaker 3: Looking to ask Ai, don't don't even take my opinion for it, ask Ai to create a list for you where the Department of Defense and the intelligence apparatuses primarily the Central Intelligence Agency, where they have done tremendous wrong or got into a conflict where it was later determined through journalistic X. Suppose our congressional demand that the reason for us being there wasn't what it turned out to be. And we talked about this war has not been declared since war World War two. They just look for these creative little words to get around it.

26:14 Speaker 3: So then Congress doesn't have to be held accountable, and we let it go because we're distracted.

26:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're like, we're so concerned with what Kim Kardashian's wearing at the metcalap and it's like, oh my god, look at all these shiny things. And sometimes I even think, like what they're doing with the UFO files is like a look here thing. Oh right, but I think the ultimate like it's the ultimate shiny object. Right, So I'm like super skeptical when it comes to that.

26:47 Speaker 3: Think about I'm going to turn and ask you a question because I trust your opinion here. I like what I see it as far as the research I've done and the things I've been able to see in the short time we've been connected. But what what is your takeoverall on the alien total disclosure situation?

27:03 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think we should be calling them aliens, first off, because the U and the U in UFO or you even u IP is unknown, right, So to classify them as anything is probably a miscalculation of the human lens.

27:22 Speaker 3: Right.

27:22 Speaker 2: We always trying to put a box over everything, but like, and not to dig at you. I'm not I'm not digging at you, but so I try not to look at it at like alien. Like, I know, the archetypal alien is often what we associate and that's okay, it's like gives us, gives us a way of thinking about it. But I think we're probably dealing with a lot of different phenomena, right, So some of it might be extraterrestrial, but some of it might be interdimensional. And that's what our ancestors could have mistaken as or called gods.

27:59 Speaker 2: Right If every origin story, every single civilization, in their origin story, they talk about these beings that descend from the sky and teach us or create us for one purpose, and that is it varies among civilization, but you see the same core themes pop up and all these creation stories. And you know, in school, bringing it back to engineered reality and collective consensus because we're all agreeing on what reality is. We've all got it's like a consensus, right because not everything's black and white, so we all concede that, right now.

28:48 Speaker 2: UFOs are kind of like a stigma. They're kind of real like but aliens. So what I'm getting at is I think that we need to look at history again. You said it tends to repeat itself. So if we're looking back at our ancient ancestors. They're telling us that these beings descended from the sky, taught them civilization, taught them agriculture, alchemy, taught them, you know, how to survive, molded them, and then always promised to return. That's in almost every one of them, as well as a flood. So like, there's some things that we can discern.

29:35 Speaker 2: And in school, we're taught none of these cultures ever had any contact with each other. Yet they all build the same fucking structures, unimaginable, and we're taught that these people were a hunter gatherers. They're always pushing the goalposts back where a species that doesn't know our own human we were our own origin stories. We shed our and not to attack, but we stood up only to have back pain. We shed our fur only to need pelts in the winter. The very sun, the very thing that sustains life on this earth burns us.

30:11 Speaker 2: And we're the only one that gets that fucking that treatment. Are we have back pain? We are? We take you look at ecosystems, they're all self sustaining and they're beautiful. And then there's the human who just takes and never gives back. And we can't stop taking, and we can't stop creating, and we can't right, and we can't stop ruining all the environment and ecosystem that's around us because we need more apartment complexes. We are a plague on this planet in my opinion, however, we don't have to be.

30:59 Speaker 2: And I think I think we might be the alien. I think we may have come and and I say this, and because there are great humans out there, but when I say that we are a plague on this planet, I think that we I don't think we originate here. It doesn't agree. I think we were created and there's something there. Our ancestors knew it that they had less distractions. But ultimately this planet seems to be some sort of paradise planet where life is. It just thrives.

31:36 Speaker 4: It's supposed to library, Yeah, it just thrives.

31:39 Speaker 2: And and you know, like guys like Neildergrass Tyson, they always like to relate humans to ants and aliens to humans. Right, the way a human sees an ant is the way aliens would see humans. And I think that is such a mischaracterization, right, it's it's and it's such a naive thing to do. And now he's even flip flopping. He's he just wrote a book about alien contact. The guy's been shitting on it for the last twenty years. He's like, he's such a known grifter. So the communities are very similar in that sense.

32:11 Speaker 2: All the problems that you guys are having, we're having to. Like I said, so we need to help each.

32:17 Speaker 3: Other the lengths that I think these apparatuses are willing to let go.

32:23 Speaker 2: But the phenomena is real. It's one I've seen it, man, I've seen it multiple times in different.

32:31 Speaker 4: Forms.

32:34 Speaker 2: We don't have too much time. We got to end. But I saw a disc broad daylight man oscillated right over my head, gun metal gray oscillating, making no noise, tree top level, unmistakable, unmistakable led me on this path. Then the day my mother died, I saw an orb of light in the room with her, and I as she passed away. Both of those things involved my mother to some degree. I don't want to get too far into it, you can. You know, we have plenty of time to follow up on that kind of stuff. But yeah, so my pathway into all this has largely included her and what she did for me, how she grew like how she taught me to be open to not understanding the world, Like we didn't have all the answers.

33:43 Speaker 2: We just simply didn't. Don't You can't that there was not just a yes or no answer, Like there's gray and there's a lot of it, and I'm very thankful. Like she brought us to church. I remember she me and my sister to church, and then she we were on the drive home and she like, she turns around and she goes, do you guys want to go back? No? I remember I looked at myself and I was like, I don't really want to go back. Do you want to go back? No? No? And we said no. She never never brought us back. She never forced her views on us, and it allowed us to walk through life with this open but guarded right open but guarded lands like view.

34:32 Speaker 2: So I'm open to anything, but I just won't believe wholehearted, Like I'm not gonna believe full sale.

34:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I get it wholesale. I may have shared with you, But in twenty sixteen, I spent a very small moment of time in a Masters of Divinity setting. I thought in twenty sixteen when I stepped out, it was going to look a certain way, and I got really involved with racial activism in West Louisville. Basically, my oldest friend on the planet was a black kid, and I always had a difficult time understanding and you kind of talked about it a little bit ago, the the dynamic of what it would like to be a black man living in the United States.

35:20 Speaker 3: My oldest friend was black. I would be around some of my older family members and I would see this very sad but true, you know, racist reality, and so trying to I guess you could say understand that effect has been really soft on my heart. And I just thought there was a point in my life when I was going to kind of bridge gap, you know, gaps between communities and connect people from West to East Louisville. West Louisville is a predominantly black community, you know, and and I just saw that it was a part of the world that was being rejected at the time due to the issues that were taking place between the black community and the police.

36:06 Speaker 3: And so I tried to help where I could, and I got into faith based, you know. I thought my life was going to go in like a Christian kind of based way, and I got into a seminary, and I kind of that was my plan, you know, to bridge racial gaps and ultimately, you know, I just jesus, what were we talking about? Man? You gave me some really damn good weed. I'm going somewhere with It's legal here you guys. But we're talking about West Louisville.

36:40 Speaker 2: You said, Well, I wasn't talking about Well.

36:44 Speaker 3: I'm going to get to a point.

36:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I said, Uh.

36:47 Speaker 3: You asked me a question. What was your question?

36:50 Speaker 2: No, you asked me a question about what I saw when with the UFO.

36:56 Speaker 3: Where I was going.

36:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, so in a faith based way, your life was going. Sorry, are you religious?

37:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where we're going. I thought my life was going to go a certain way, but it didn't pull me. That's where I was going with all this. I was I was helping understand and get to the bottom of an issue, but it didn't pull me. And so the only thing that I can say is that event that you had and that experience that you had with your mother that pulled you and you. I think I think it's on us to individually figure out what that thing is that pulls us like a magnet, because you can, you know, you can train.

37:40 Speaker 2: What gives yourself purpose?

37:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, what what magnetically pulls you the thing that you can't.

37:45 Speaker 2: If it's funny because I call it the north star.

37:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you if you woke up and you weren't pursuing that thing, you'd be a shell of a human being.

37:53 Speaker 2: Yeah. But again, we're not meant to just do nine to five punch a clock like. We're meant to have a purpose. And I know what my purpose is because I've walked nuclear controllers who had experiences with unknown craft interfering with their weapons, their nuclear weapons. I've walked those guys into brief members of Congress. Those selfless kind of moments are what I live for because they make a difference and they're not about me. They're something larger than me. It affects something larger than me, right, it means something.

38:35 Speaker 2: And that's what I like to do is facilitate those So I know my place. And what I've done is I've I'm happy with my place. I know what I need to do. So my north star has always been my mother. That's why she's always the highest thing in the room. Yeah, So her ashes are up there and and she's always highest in the room because she's you know, I've walked her into the halls of Congress, I've walked her into many places that years ago. You know, I think a lot of people wrote me off for a little while due to some some circumstance, and you know, to where I've where I am today versus there then, I think we've done some pretty incredible things.

39:24 Speaker 2: And uh, you know, she's definitely responsible for me sitting here with you today.

39:28 Speaker 3: And I'll tell you we can tap into that. You know, even people that have passed on, everything is energy. Yeah, you know, you can tap into the energy that they left behind, that they you know, that made you, They made you feel. So I believe, you know that everybody that walked before us and that it's gone, they still walk with us.

39:51 Speaker 2: I agree, I agree.

39:53 Speaker 3: I just I've been visited in dreams.

39:56 Speaker 2: You know, see I've I got that once, but it was weird. I couldn't talk.

40:02 Speaker 3: That's normal, Okay, I had the same thing with me. Can I share this experience if you like? Yeah, my grandfather and I had a pretty horrible relationship, and shortly after he passed, I had a dream. I know he's very upset because he's like you'd be nice to our guests. But I'm just come on, he's a great dog. But my grandfather basically in this dream locked eyes on me and it was kind of startling in a way, and he like immediately came over and he got really close to my face and he was like staring at me with these eyes.

40:35 Speaker 3: And I looked and I said to him, like, I didn't just say, and I finally said the one thing that I genuinely wish would have been different. I said, I wish you know, you and I would have been closer when you were alive. And he got this big smile on my face. On his face excuse me, and he like I woke up from the dream and I was like, holy shit, thank you. The other time it happened to me was when I was visited by a guy named Chris Hak He was one of my buddies that was killed in Iraq. Yeah, and it was weird it.

41:07 Speaker 3: I woke up feeling it.

41:09 Speaker 2: When did you have the dream? In reference, when did he die? And when did you have the dream?

41:13 Speaker 3: If I had to guess, it was within the first week after he passed away.

41:17 Speaker 2: And had you heard about it yet?

41:20 Speaker 3: Yes, I already knew at that point.

41:21 Speaker 2: Okay, so you did know, because some people report like having a dream before they know that it happened. So but this was okay. But it's still significant because.

41:32 Speaker 3: Oh well, there was two dreams. One we were like in this setting where it was like those old school like band areas where there was like you know, back like in the forties night what nightclubs would be, you know, tables and big band playing all this stuff. And yeah, I felt like I was like in this dream, like at this event, and I felt like this person was basically watching me. And I used to have a joke with him where we'd look I kind of look over to my left and I'd see him in the platoon next to me and always be giving me these really goofy looks.

42:00 Speaker 3: And that's just part of the joke. You know, he was just messing around, if you understood.

42:04 Speaker 2: I love those kind of people.

42:05 Speaker 3: Man, he was amazing and he was doing that to me in the dream, and so you.

42:11 Speaker 2: Know, it's real.

42:12 Speaker 3: It was crazy.

42:12 Speaker 2: It's like his tow.

42:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the you know, the very the conversation we had was very brief. It was just I knew in that moment I was being visited in a dream by somebody that had passed on. It was just kind of like a known thing. But I was like, I genuinely miss you. I will always do my best to make sure that none of your children suffer all that stuff. He's like, I know that, and he's like, this is how it works. And he just kept saying that over and over again.

42:39 Speaker 2: He's like, this is how it works.

42:41 Speaker 3: It works. He's just like, this is how it works. And I was like, really, what do you mean.

42:45 Speaker 2: He's just like, just this is how it works.

42:48 Speaker 3: That's he was saying to me over and over again.

42:51 Speaker 2: Clip that. No, I just I can say clip that and it will clip that. Don't worry.

42:59 Speaker 3: That's very interests.

43:01 Speaker 2: This is how it worked when I woke up. So he wasn't like he knew his children were going to be okay. He knew his wife would be okay, and he was like this very common.

43:14 Speaker 3: One of his one of his relatives even mentioned that she had a visitation from him in a dream as well.

43:21 Speaker 2: I saw my mom in one dream. And the reason I know it was actually her is because I saw her not in the form that I saw her in her death, but she was in in this ethereal form like she was in that picture, like it was the most perfect version of her. And she had this glow, and we were in front of her dad's house, and her dad's house had this beautiful cherry blossom tree and it was a dead end. And I don't want to go into I don't want to go into why that location is key, But the location is why I knew it was I was really being visited, because I would not have dreamed.

44:15 Speaker 2: I can't explain it how I know, but that's how I know. It wasn't just my imagination. I know it was something different but similar. I could not speak, and I'm the dead end is here. I'm facing outward, looking out, so the cherry blossom tree is on my left hand side, where her dad's house is. From her perspective, it's on her right side. She's looking down towards the dead end, which went into like the woods, and that was like a path that led to the neighborhood next door, and we used to refer to it as our safe space.

44:59 Speaker 2: And so but that's it's not important. But she said something and I I don't I don't really talk about this, but she said something that was meant for me only, and like the I just the Danas thing, I just you know what I mean, It's like it's a it's a it can't quite explain it, but you know it's it's her, And uh yeah, it was. I can't say it was similar to like this out works. It wasn't those words, but I couldn't speak back. It was I was like forced to just listen and because I I knew I wanted to say something back, but it was like I was locked into like a listen mode and I just and then I woke up out of it, and uh god, did I want to go back to sleep so bad.

46:00 Speaker 3: That I came away from I don't even know what the words are, but it to have like come out of an experience where you just, I mean, what would you consider that would you be with?

46:13 Speaker 2: Was that translucent, transcendent, ethereal, interdimensional? Because I think the dream realm there's something to it.

46:24 Speaker 3: Well, it's like taking a psychedelic and.

46:27 Speaker 2: Very much have you ever done d MT? Yes, so you go to another place, dude, completely, And I'm not so convinced that in dreams you don't quite tap into something similar that your mind is going to an autopilot, and it's entangling with some sort of interdimensional what you call the source, and it's just entangled with that. So you're playing over like this multiversal version of your life. It's like an autopilot for you to connect into. Right, that's my take on it. Like, and it's kind of crazy, but we do have to wrap up.

47:07 Speaker 2: Dude, You've been so amazing.

47:09 Speaker 3: No, I'm serious, this has been great. I I've always wanted to, like, seriously, take a break. The podcast is over. Yeah, it's so legal in the state. Let's go ourselves from a product from a cannabis dispensary and then come back and let's just be real and just talk about ship.

47:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it goes behind. It's for members only. It's like they know what's up. They're they're the best people. They're the ones who help us keep the lights on especially, so yeah, yeah, you to them.

47:39 Speaker 3: I'm serious. If you've listened to the podcast earlier, thank you. I mean that what they were hurt. Uh. You know, I'm trying to be as authentic as i as I can be.

47:47 Speaker 2: You know, our nine to eleven investigation is ongoing, and so it's what did you do? What did you think last name that Tucker Carlson coverage of nine to eleven. He did like a little special on it.

48:00 Speaker 3: You want to me, you know, the honestly got truth.

48:01 Speaker 4: Just just give me, like I'm gonna give you the truth.

48:04 Speaker 3: I didn't even watch it, I'm saying, I am. You gotta understand, I am that busy. I did not even watch it.

48:15 Speaker 2: I think it was pretty good, but I think it just no, we can't go there. It's too long. But

48:28 Speaker 2: he does the official narrative, but not the official narrative. He definitely concedes that there was a conspiracy, but he kind of just focuses on the intelligence failure part of it, and I think that's a disservice. While it was enlightening in that aspect of like looking at the intelligence failure and like how that was presented, it was a good you know it. I think it served a purpose. But like when I talk to guys like Norman, they're like, and I'm like, all right, I get it. But again, like I like to I like to see, listen to everything and then take what I need from it.

49:08 Speaker 3: You know, the people that I am asking questions of they worked within the intelligence apparatus and if I'm saying that, ultimately, they've got some questions to answer, you know, ultimately, can I ever get to a position where I trust anything that that apparatus has to say on the issue?

49:29 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely. So for members everyone, thank you guys so much.

49:36 Speaker 2: Keep on keeping on, stay humble, stay kind, stay vigilant, and we'll see you on the next one. We got some great episodes being recorded next week, including Luigi Vindietti. I don't really know how to pronounce his last name yet, and it's pretty embarrassing.

49:54 Speaker 3: But Patricia Casaza, when is that gonna go active? Is that live now?

49:58 Speaker 2: No, that'll come out on Thursday. I can't wait on Yeah, on Thursday, and then yours will be first. Yours comes out first, so and then yours will come out.

50:16 Speaker 3: Yeah. You got to understand her journey as well, and the types of things that you know, she's had to deal with. I just could not thank her and the other Jersey girls enough for their efforts in the beginning. They're the ones that got this whole thing.

50:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing, amazing group of women. So, and we have plenty of other stuff. So we're gonna have like a bunch of backloged episodes for members, and you guys are gonna have all raw you know, unedited, early access and ad free. So continue helping the show. We'll see you guys,

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