"PRESIDENT EISENHOWER NEVER SIGNED A TREATY WITH ALIENS" (Ft. Laura Eisenhower)

0:16 Speaker 1: Step h m hm hm hm.

1:31 Speaker 2: A right, and we're back with the great granddaughter of former President Eisenhower, who I had in the intro for so long. It's so funny because uh, his uh, you know, one of his what is it the exit speech?

1:46 Speaker 3: Was it his exit speech.

1:49 Speaker 4: Gave the morning. Yeah.

1:51 Speaker 2: I had that in the intro for so long because I think that is such a pivotal moment that there's there's there's a couple of them, and I believe that's that's one of them. Daniel Inneway's speech to the United Nations where he talks about the shadow government, and you know, they have their own fundraising mechanism, their own army, their navy, and their own agenda.

2:11 Speaker 3: They operate of the law.

2:13 Speaker 2: There were these few times where where members of Congress and the president, people in government actually stepped up to Warna's. Nowadays it's a little bit different, where there's a lot more involvement. So I guess there's obviously some building questions with who you are. I said this backstage, you're the great granddaughter a former President Eisenhower. Arguably, you know, in my opinion, this is my opinion, one of the last people who served the way I think that was intended.

2:48 Speaker 3: It was.

2:49 Speaker 2: I feel like the presidency was always something that you did. You had a career, you time away, you filled that seat, and then you left and you didn't go back to politics.

3:00 Speaker 3: You weren't a career bureaucrat.

3:03 Speaker 2: So unfortunately, I do believe that your your great grandfather, was one of the last that served the way it was it was meant to be. But can you tell us a little bit about yourself? For those who don't or I have not heard you speak before, you're just a tremendous voice in the subject.

3:19 Speaker 4: Oh well, thank you so much. And yeah, the more I learned about him, the more blown away I am. But I've always known it in my heart, you know, since I was a child, just who this man is, you know, just feeling the immensity of his love, what in an advanced soul, you know, he truly is. His strategy intelligence was unbelievable. And it was not just World Wars as a general, it was as a president. It was as somebody that was facing the bigger picture, galactic picture, bigger picture, galactic picture, bigger picture of what's happening on a galactic level.

3:58 Speaker 4: So a little bit about me so I grew up really close to feeling into who this man was, starting at a very young age in order to understand my mission, because I knew it had to do with him, not just him, but him being a voice for the people. The larger picture of what we're dealing with as a humanity had to do with kind of picking up where he left off to help people to understand what happened to the timeline after his presidency, what really took place during the Second World War and all the events that were very pivotal in this deep state takeover of the US, you know, nineteen forty seven to nineteen fifty two before he stepped into the presidency.

4:44 Speaker 4: The things that I've learned are not are not easily found. You won't hear this in the disclosure communities, but my own soul kind of sovereign journey has been you know, very sensitive to under standing argalactic history, the sophionic energy, the Chrysophia divine blueprint, and what events took place starting from Lyra to the Orion Wars, Ta Tara and Tiamat exploding, and like everything about how this planet became the kind of planet that it is, you know, the root races, the planetary grid network, how this is a rehabilitation planet, and how you know, Ananaki and draconian forces and different control agendas came in to leverage the trauma that was held in the nervous system of the planet after we fell into this lower harmonic universe.

5:38 Speaker 4: So I've been studying how that relates to the DNA, the zodiac and the reversal grid technology that keeps us sort of dumb down and in these programmings, and how it's used to harvest and siphon our energies for them to battery up artificial timelines that are engineered. So my passion has really been about understanding that and bridging you know, things that took place during Eisenhower's administration into the here and now. Even though I go, you know, all the way back to sort of the beginning, it's kind of like, okay, but this was a very significant administration as far as et contact psy ops that have been projected upon them that I wasn't really understanding fully in the beginning, as far as like did that really happen or not.

6:28 Speaker 4: I was more investigative, you know, things about the Creata Treaty that people say happened in nineteen fifty four, So so that's kind of a bit in a nutshell. I was raised very close to my family son, Eisenhower's son John SD. Eisenhower and I were very close, and we were very very tight knit. I learned a lot just by observing looking in the family albums, seeing you know, he not only took footage of what took place during the Second World War, it was actually in our family albums, you know. I remember being a kid and just flipping through and then just seeing all these books on the walls that family members had written, and just getting nothing but downloads my whole life, and seeing through the programmings and feeling, you know, like even if nobody understands my mission, it was like I was living a double life.

7:20 Speaker 4: I was doing energy that I wrote a book about, and I was just always like functioning at that awareness level. But there were times where I would really slip into confusion or or like is this really happening? Or because I was being targeted the whole time to go off planet because they knew that I was coming in. He was briefed that a descendant would come in and and and supposedly I came in from the galactic realms because I was part of the galactic groups that helped to advise him during his administration, and I chose to come in to bring about disclosure and to protect it from going off kilter, you know, going into you know, a false narrative disclosure because everything's been weaponized.

8:08 Speaker 4: There's a false version to almost everything, the ascension, there's new age bullshit, there's a false disclosure narratives. And so I kind of came in as a guardian protector, like you know, here for truth, like you and so many others, Like we're a team, we're working together, we're you know, doing our best to provide information and but but the deeper intention is truth is the priority, even if it's not what we want to see, and even about him, if it's not what I wanted to see, I'm not going to be biased.

8:37 Speaker 4: But I ended up finding out extraordinary things about him with val Thor and the Guardians that have have really changed what I present and right to a whole new level.

8:50 Speaker 2: Well, my god, did you just drop. For anyone who knows the UFO topic, you there's there's so much to unpack and what you just said, the the little the little like the My god, the it's that the whole spin you literally touched on like every single topic I wanted to all in one sentence, and I'm like, holy shit. But because so to sector it off, it sounds like you're talking about like the valiant thor the person that was I think even pictured right in and.

9:32 Speaker 3: At one point.

9:33 Speaker 2: Pictured, so there is like there is a picture of that guy floating around. But the root of the treaty that you're talking about, now, can you tell us the story about Holloman Air Force Base and uh, Palm Beach and what happened that night that he slipped away if you will. For anyone who doesn't know the story, well.

10:00 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I mean there there, It's easily located on the internet. I have it verbatim because to me, there there's a lot of temporal management going on with timeline corrections and also timeline manipulation coming from those that use technology to alter events. And there's uh in what we see in the news, lots of cover stories, lots of scandals to cover up deeper truths. So that to me was almost like a cover story to to to hone in on something that could become you know, a point of interest, like, oh, he was supposed to he said he was going to a dentist appointment.

10:44 Speaker 4: Did that really happen? And that was a night that he was taken off into this underground base or excuse me, this air force base, hangar or whatever to meet with the Aliens. And there was two encounters in nineteen. The first contact was with the Nordics. They warned about the Grays. The second one came, you know, later on, and that's when, you know, the Grays showed up, and the deal did not seem so terrible that they would take a certain number in exchange for technology. They wouldn't harm them, they would bring them back, they would share the names and all this sort of thing.

11:16 Speaker 4: And it's because they were a dying race and they needed our assistance. So it's not to say that that doesn't happen because there are hybridization programs, there's quite a few of them. But the original treaty and rare abduction scenarios actually originated was really before that, you know. And we're talking about ancient history that we don't learn about in schools connected to anonachy, you know, and the formation of the deep State, the Cabal, the thirteen families, the infrastructure that they built with reversal grid technology to mess with the grids, to build these underground bases and tunnel systems, to you know harvest and siphon our energies, but also to you know abuse children and have this whole network right,

12:04 Speaker 4: you know, being born into a family and being you know taken into these horrific sr and mind control experiments. That has morphed and change over the course of time. So the original treaties, I mean, there's many treaties. If if if one looks at like non intervention agreements, the Emerald Order Pallidorian Covenant, which is the higher groups coming in saying they're not going to allow the Black Sons and the Sons of Belial to uh be controller groups that are going to steer humanity off course. And definitely there's a lot of intervention going on, including the Sophionic energy in the Thirteenth Flame and the Remedial Flame coming from the Mother of the planet herself to help the Akama, the fallen Sofia, the fallen Lucifer and where it becomes archetypal and also you know based in pantheons.

12:57 Speaker 4: So there's so many layers, so many layers, and that I want to get people lost in all this. But nineteen twenty nine, if if we're going to look at governments, you know, on a human scale and level, even though there's this you know, cabal that's been existing because Ari and mafia and you know how they funded both sides of war, and how you know, this sort of satanic synagogue of the fake Jews, and how you know the banksters that we see helped to fund in the hot season, all this crazy stuff that has engineered world wars and events.

13:30 Speaker 4: You know, as you know, people that are pulling the strings way behind the scenes. On the human scale, we're just seeing like countries you know, at war with each other. We're only seeing certain levels and layers and people can't you know, comprehend all.

13:46 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's sorry to interrupt you there, but almost just like reality right in my opinion, you know, if you look at it as kind of this this mirror that you put up, like you said, what we see on the surface is this you know, nation on nation war, right, this this struggle for resource and land, this division. But it's not till you start peeling the onion back do you start to see what the real picture is. And it's almost like reality is that way as well. You have to start peeling it back.

14:28 Speaker 4: Totally right and and you know engineered humans that are carrying personas or they're stuck on labels or you know, being very surface. You know, you got to peel back the layers to find your soul again, to find your truth, to find your authenticity. So on a creation level, we're peeling back the programmings. We're peeling back where I call them kind of like foster parents or like that bad step parent or that evil step parent, or like bad partner narcissists. You know, we're realizing, wait a second, those aren't our real parents.

14:57 Speaker 4: These authority structures are not looking out for us. You know. There there, it couldn't be more abusive and deceptive and manipulative with this problem reaction solution game going on, and it's infiltrated every institution. SOA shows that you know, career, the medical, the health, the education, the entertainment industry, like literally every house of the zodiac, every sign has been weaponized into its inversion where the mothers of darkness and the infrastructure, the illuminati using dark rituals are keeping it in this lower frequency in order to harvest and siphon that energy to remain in power, and and you know, it's just unbelievable.

15:41 Speaker 4: So nineteen twenty nine is when the abductions really began. Not to say they weren't happening before that, but swarp one, you know, we uh, you know, Tesla technology was you know advanced, and the Nazis bought test the Telsa's technology. That's when the agreements and alliances really began to form. Where some of the agreements were all about, you know, abducting you know, humans into this larger picture kind of slave trade, uh, in exchange for us being able to put bases on the moon in Mars and having advanced technology because the you know, the crafts and and things connected to Rill the real society, you know, and Maria Orsiic and all this stuff, uh, and and the Nordics in New Berlin being put you know, in Antarctica.

16:34 Speaker 4: I mean, the reason I'm saying it so fast is because I'm just bullet pointing how many different scenarios were operating until like there was a very pivotal point where Crowley, Churchill and Hitler got into some major agreements with the Draco's and that the interplanetary corporate conglomerate Nazi Draco Alliance, and and that basically solidified this whole kind of out of control scenario of many being abducted for technology or being able to, you know, begin to build these secret space programs and breakaway civilizations.

17:15 Speaker 4: And just like this massive deep state in military industrial complex that took over the United States starting in nineteen forty seven. But the official surrender happened in nineteen fifty two under Truman, where we surrendered in the United States to the Nazi Draco Alliance, And so people think we won the war, but they don't realize that what actually happened was, you know, this infiltration took place and mind control projects monarch montalkk Ultra, yeah, which is you know, a monarch and yeah, yeah, right in the massive infiltration basically moved it into the United States where the Garata Treaty in nineteen fifty four was when US citizens began to be abducted.

18:02 Speaker 4: But the unconditional Surrender agreement put that power into the hands of m J twelve and three letter organizations. So they want to hide That's why it's called shadow government, so they created the syops that Eisenhower signed the treaties, when actually, in actual fact, Eisenhower ordered an invasion on the Dulce underground base in nineteen fifty four to take out the Draco's and the Grays, and he began to work with val Thor that warned the administration, particularly you know, you know Eisenhower who he was mostly in contact with about the Nordics and the Grays because of what happened in nineteen twenty nine.

18:39 Speaker 4: So this whole narrative of oh, he went to the base and met with the Nordics, didn't want to give up. Yeah, it's just yet. And then you know, they warned about the Grays, and then the Grays show up and they were too telepathic, too powerful, uh, And it didn't seem like that bad of an agreement, and he just like signed it while he's sitting at a table with a bunch of Grays and just signs that No, the shadow government had already infiltrated. That's why he had to work covertly to put these countermeasures in place.

19:07 Speaker 4: The white hats you put in place, the Earth Alliance, something called Ike's Force, which are a group of vigilantes, which aren't actually a group vigilantes, meaning they work independently because if they work as a group, they're easily targeted. It works as individuals, similar to a lot of white hats that are more spies. They're in, you know, these these dark, compromised places, but they're operating from, you know, a place of okay, gaining you know, information and data to then you know, perhaps I think, you know, yeah, you hear a lot about it, you know, going into begin to rescue you know, children.

19:44 Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of blown up information that's not exactly what's going on, but it is going on. We can see everything crumbling, we can see all is getting purged out and exposed. But anyway, so Eisenhower put countermeasures in place, but everybody's putting the finger at him being the one that signed us on the grays and it wasn't him. So the sources of my information are pretty profound, And anyway, I don't want to overly talk without you sharing, so but I was.

20:13 Speaker 2: I was going to ask, like, you know, how confident are you and what you're saying, And it sounds like you know your source whoever your sources are. Of course, we don't burn anyone here. You're satisfied with what they're telling you in terms of this information.

20:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, because the way that I met this person, and this person's a physicist, he discovered the sixth, seventh, and eighth force, so he's on a tesla level. He did a twenty and back. He served in the Dark Fleet, and he overheard all of this, and he was a sword duellist in the SSP and and he won pretty much every duel. And he was a canse master, which means that he wasn't out to maim anybody or kill anybody, but he was really operating under the control of the Japanese geneticist that created him and two of his brothers, like in a lab literally, So if anybody's going to know what's going on, it's somebody who's like in his seventies, who really doesn't have anything to lose, who has immunities.

21:13 Speaker 4: Never signed an NDA because he won so many duels, they said they would protect him, even the Dark Side did because the Draco's rules so many, so many planets and everything, like you know, they can rule us too, because we have amnesia and we're powerless in when we have amnesia. We're powerless. When we wake up, we hold the power and we can clapse the deep state, we can reverse and correct the planetary grids. So even if we were to reclaim our planet, it's not like that big a deal to the Draco's.

21:48 Speaker 4: They just saw us as vulnerable. It's like it's like any bully or anybody that has power is going to take advantage of humans that have lost their memories or power, and we're on trauma and we're lost, we just become a target. So I think in many ways they can see into the bigger picture that we do reclaim our planet. But until then, as long as we're vulnerable, easily manipulated, and forgetting who we truly are, this control system exists. The thing that makes it hard to break free from is the fact that the deep state and the infrastructure is so so much the system that humans have become dependent on that that that the humans want to keep it because they don't know who they are without it, even though it's collapsing, and even though they've lost their power.

22:41 Speaker 4: You know, we're re routing a lot of humans into you know, rehabilitation and an awakening to move through the trauma and betrayal and and shock of it all, and also all those that were captured, enslaved and tortured and used and blackmailed, and and just a part of that infrastructure, just all the SRA we hear about. So so I'm not saying that the DraCos want to give us up, but somebody like Dan who like gained their respect and realized like, wow, okay, he's operating on this whole other level. All right, we'll give him immunities.

23:17 Speaker 4: He won't sign an NDA, but it doesn't mean that we will override what they're attempting to do. Uh, it's just you know, basically that was what they granted him. Also, val Thor he has immunities. He went rogue because of

23:35 Speaker 4: uh yeah, he wasn't operating under the non intervention agreements. He broke free from.

23:40 Speaker 3: That and tried to change, yeah, how it was happening.

23:45 Speaker 4: And then Valfoor helped Eisenhower. Well, Eisenhower appealed to the Guardians with the help of val Thor. So the Guardians, which you know are are the eighth force. They use the aid force, that's their you know, vibration and essence put this outer barrier around the planet. To kind of corner the hybrids, the Illuminati deep state players from being able to escape and leave, and to keep any more nefarious beings from being able to come in. So what happened was the Gray abductions sort of shifted into military abductions, my labs and you know, wiping memories from people and creating engineered versions and fake abductions, artificial telepathy, utilizing all the technology that they were given to then mimic what ETS are capable of doing in order to blame it on the aliens and still hide blame it on Eisenhower, blame it on the ETS, and we're still the shadow government.

24:45 Speaker 4: But that is what I'm you know, working on exposing. And I don't have it all figured out. But that's why these conversations are important, because you have pieces, eye of pieces. Other people have pieces, but there's a lot we have to let go of that we might have thought actually happened that day that was created as a sigh up, you know, like nine to eleven, Is that really the official story? COVID? Is that really the official story? And on and on? Right?

25:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually just I'm doing in an investigative series right now on nine to eleven. I've I just had a Pentagon first responder here, and then I just interviewed one of the Jersey girls whose husband their husbands died

25:30 Speaker 2: working in the towers on one hundred and fifth floor. And they're the girl the wives that pressured for the nine to eleven Commission report, which was whitewashed anyway, But they are under the impression. All of these people that I've talked to, they they subscribe to the idea that the government used directed energy weapons on.

25:55 Speaker 3: The towers that day.

25:57 Speaker 2: I mean, how can I look up responder to the Pentagon and then a wife of you know, someone who worked in that in that building every day, and if they've done the work and come to this conclusion, how can I discount that? Like I have to take it seriously. And and the the first responder he you're muted, by the way. The first responder just simply said to me, and I asked, point blank, when you showed up, what did you see? And he said, I'm gonna stop you there A plane did not hit that building. And I just, I mean, I can't.

26:36 Speaker 2: I wasn't there. I was in third grade. He was there, you know. So uh, with nine to eleven. I do believe I, at least at this point, looking at like doctor.

26:49 Speaker 3: Judy Woods's work on the like where did the rubble go?

26:52 Speaker 2: And and again I don't want to go down in the nine to eleven rabbit hole, but I do think that that was when the seed was not maybe not even the seed, but the grip by the the shadow government tightened. And then with COVID, it just it just and I don't want to I don't even want to know what comes next, because is it? It really does sound like if you're watching the news, you know, Fox News sounds like Coast to coast lately where they're talking about different aliens and and and and that's that's fine with me.

27:26 Speaker 2: But if Fox News is talking about that, what's about to happen?

27:32 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, right, like some sort of fake blueberry you know, uh, fake alien invasion, you know, the ultimate you know, Werner von Braun warned about this kind of thing, the the last card that they would play.

27:46 Speaker 2: And uh, you know, it's it's just looking more like that might be a reality.

27:51 Speaker 3: And you know, uh uh it frightens me.

27:55 Speaker 4: Well when you say that might be a reality, what might be your reality?

28:00 Speaker 2: That the government is gearing up to, yes, give us some sort of disclosure.

28:07 Speaker 4: Recognize that you were saying, I just wanted to you know, so when I, oh, I might as well change the glasses on my head, you know, as I answered, I know exactly, yeah, what you're saying about that. And that's the thing about disclosure. It can't be up to the governments. The governments, even if this administration is not fully deep state controlled, just like in Eisenhewer's administration, there are players that will continue to try and run the show. It doesn't mean that there isn't a lot going on in the background that we just can't see.

28:44 Speaker 4: That's why when he worked with bal Thor was very covert. After the invasion of Dulce that was not successful in fifty seven nineteen fifty seven, he wanted he threatened to invade Area fifty one. And people say this on their deathbed. Most know that their lives will be lost if they say it sooner. We saw a lot of people being taken out during that time and still in the times that we're in. So to get the truth out is not something that's just going to be easily disclosed, like, oh, I got the files here, let's just like open it up, you know, really after all.

29:16 Speaker 2: That's what I think these missing scientists and dead engineers. I think that is a signal to like the public facing government right now. That is kind of like, you know, giving us the UFO files and the videos. I think, in my opinion, like the General mccaslin's, the Amy s coriages, I think they were warnings like, hey, pursue this further exactly, and people are gonna start dying right now, right I mean, And when you talk about the Dulcet and invasion, are you talking about like the Phil Schneider event.

29:56 Speaker 4: I'm talking about Eisenhower ordered an invasion on Dulcine underground base. And the man that told me this is connected with people that were there. This is something that they wiped and replaced with. Oh, he signed treaties with the grace. You're not going to hear that he actually tried to take them out. Nineteen sixty nine was when Phil Schneider was involved in the wars. So we're talking like a major like way later the Dulce wars, the ones that we hear about because they were okay even though they you know, were taken out.

30:26 Speaker 4: Those stories becoming public. Yeah, we're the beginning of people really opening up to you know, all this stuff. William Cooper as well, but they still had access to information that was on a need to know basis. The compartmentalism is very much alive. Nobody has full access to anything without there being some kind of compartments involved, because that is the strategy that we don't get the full picture. So a lot of people that are like, this is what happened, or this is what's going on, or this is what I experienced.

30:55 Speaker 4: You know, there's a whole bunch of other stuff going on that we wouldn't be able to piece together unless we began to break down those walls and not just stick with one narrative. The whole deal is is that narratives being steered aren't necessarily seeing what's behind a certain door or compartment. So so Dan's been able to access, uh, you know, these these other layers. But bringing it back to what you were saying, so, you know, governments and disclosure and the voices that we hear, it's only one part of the story.

31:28 Speaker 4: Gives us enough truth, but but it doesn't it doesn't bring in, you know, the fullness of of what we need to know. Yes, the white hats are very active things that Eisenhower said in motion and those before him, and just all those that were in agreement, all the humans that were born with missions. You know, we're a team. It's not about the hierarchical government structure. There are many leaders amongst us. It's not about you know, the presidency, but it holds the power to reach the people. Uh and and be taken seriously because it's considered the authority, But is it really the ultimate authority.

32:00 Speaker 4: There has to be you know, an administration which this one is way more aligned with, that gives the voice back to the people. That disclosure is coming from the people, because they're the experiences. They're the experiencers, many researchers, many authors, many people from all over the world that have had disclosures for a really long time that need to be heard. So when it's all limited to oh now this is coming out, what is what is being said, what is being ignored, what is being smeared, what is being silenced?

32:32 Speaker 4: Like you said, who is being taken out? So we have to just kind of keep investigating, and you know, some might be in witness protection, some family members came forward and said, you know, we know how he died. He wasn't taken out, so stop saying that you know it was because of these reasons. But still are they trying to protect somebody? Are they being threatened.

32:54 Speaker 3: Exactly?

32:55 Speaker 4: We just don't know. We just don't know. So the best we can do is when we hear things or see things that we we come together more than ever. This is why some events that begin to shut people out and some of the superficial dramas make it really hard, because you know, there's too much at stake to just stick with a few things. We need to make sure that you know everything's being shared, and it's okay that you know not everybody's coming together fully and completely, but there needs to be threads of communication amongst all of us and to get beyond the divide and conquer the ego battles, the competitions, because uh, there's there's there's a there's just too much at stake.

33:38 Speaker 4: There is like when we're fractured and conquered and divided and playing into these ego battles and games, that's where we're easily manipulated and and that's where the dark agendas really continue. You know, there there their destruction on us. That's because that's that's what they want. If we unify, they have nothing to feed on anymore. They want the loose, they want the ego battles, they want the division amongst each other. And I'm not saying anybody's doing it intentionally just because it kind of looks like that and feels like that, But we know that a lot of that does exist.

34:16 Speaker 4: We don't have to name names, and it's intentional. And if we don't heal it and rise above it and come together more strongly than ever, then whatever we're disclosing might literally give power away to the very thing that people think they're battling, because they're taking advantage of what we have not stepped into and matured about, which is spiritual growth and ascension. So if we don't get on the ascension path, yeah, we're going to be preyed upon. It's not ego and information that wins the war, it's unity and healing and understanding.

34:46 Speaker 4: You know how much is trying to keep us from achieving you know, a particular goal that they've been targeting all along, which is right, heal and come together.

34:57 Speaker 2: Right, And you know it's for me, it's very reminiscent. Whether you're a believer of you know, the Bible or not. I think it's you know, but if you look at the story and I'm not I'm not religious, particularly spiritual, but if you look at the story, that's our Bible, right, there's nothing a united humanity couldn't do. And when we get too close, we're struck down and divided by language and color of skin. And then we we do their bidding even further by sequestering ourselves into these groups, right, like you're gay, you know, or you know, uh, sex, creed, religion.

35:44 Speaker 2: We just we love to like be in a box and and and if you're not with us, you're against us. And you know, that's not how it was for for a lot of my life growing up. But the Internet has just I don't know what it's done, but it has corrupted people to the point where again, you can't have a civil conversation if you're not on like even the same political party, which is.

36:11 Speaker 4: It's blast so many relationships and friendships.

36:16 Speaker 3: People block their mothers.

36:17 Speaker 4: I know, I know, And I'm helping my son navigate just these differences with his girlfriend. I'm like are you. This is exactly what they want. Love is so different than this. These are just opinions. This is in doctor said, this is just a life because they're leveraging, they're they're taking it. They're weaponizing humans good intent, you know, like funded movements to get people all riled up to to be in a trauma loop and then the bigger, the biggest victim wins. So it's more being an empowered victim instead of being an empowered healer that can see through this and say let's hug and come together.

36:52 Speaker 4: Anyway, let's not make it about you know, who you're aligning with, and make it more about is this really achieving the goal of us rising above victimhood and realizing we've all been hurt and traumatized to a certain degree, you know, and even if whatever color skin were, and we might have had past lives you know, as a black person being enslaved or you know, the iris thatt regenus just like, let's just drop the We got to just flip from the heart and almost like oh that's too woo woo, that's to this or that.

37:25 Speaker 4: No, no, we we we have to fight our way to you know, somebody winning being right, and everybody being Okay, you're right, so we'll just comply and we'll just give our powerway to you. No, that's the same game the deep state is doing. They want us to become them. They want to program us into becoming the very archetypal dysfunction that has taken place in these pantheons with the anonachy and how they all get along. It's like warring brothers competing agendas. The divine feminine being exiled and you know, just you know, the imbos asking feminine as long as it's kept alive and we succumb to that inheritance of program, then we're doing it in smaller ways in how they're doing it in a more concentrated version, in a very very sick, demented way, in the deeper aspects of it.

38:13 Speaker 4: But think of how many energy vampires there are, Think of how many crime shows there are. There's news stories, but when you look at it, there's like eighteen seasons of evil lips here, eighteen seasons of dysfunction. That is so sick and so dark that we can think, yeah, humans, you know, we're such a good species, and we are, but this is all based in mind control. And social engineering and absolute abuse because the system supports criminal activity, division, divorce, perversion, you know, children, you know, screaming for candy and materialism.

38:50 Speaker 4: You know, the whole system is set up for us to live in this addiction matrix of inversion and dependency. So humans are not even acting like their true nature. We're divining and they're afraid of us remembering who we are because when we do, we're the advanced race and they have nothing to feed on. They used to be that, but they compromise their DNA on purpose because they got addicted to control.

39:14 Speaker 2: Holy shit, So let me ask you something real quick. I mean, I don't let me ask you something as I talk to you on the podcast, as if I wasn't going to ask anything.

39:26 Speaker 3: You're so dumb, But.

39:29 Speaker 2: Uh what what do you so clearly you believe that humans, so humans are special. Now for whatever reason that is that is semantics at the moment. Do you think that part of why potentially they kept this from us, or you know, kept us from knowing the actual truth is because it is a little darker, It is a little bit inherently kind of scary, and it is potentially kind of us meeting our maker you know how they had a hand in our our creation potentially, and you know, maybe many and maybe they felt that we weren't ready or do you think they do it for.

40:22 Speaker 3: More of a of a.

40:26 Speaker 2: Malevolent reason, like I want to keep them away from Creator because I want to be the only one who's in contact and I want to you know, keep everyone else down and and remain you know, the only one who gets to suck on the tee if you will.

40:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you're talking about the controller groups and just the fall and groups, and if you can explain how that works, I mean, and we see it in our own lives when you're with an energy vampire or you know, somebody that wants to keep God wants to

41:01 Speaker 4: take advantage of your insecurities or wounds and keep you small, keep you just needing outside validation. You know, people that fall into the Stockholm syndrome with their you know, captors or abusers. Is a really great example of how it works. You really begin to manipulate somebody's sense of self worth and belonging even to the point where, uh, they can overlook abuse and and and mistreatment and and and evil if if they're you know, targeted, Uh, in that way. So uh, and and there's varying degrees of it, you know, when it gets down to you know, the the deepest levels of depravity and vampiresm you know, the torture of you know, children from the very beginning is is unbelievable.

41:50 Speaker 1: Uh.

41:52 Speaker 4: The more I hear people's stories, uh, you know that really really survived the s R and the MK ultra, it is unbelievable. How advanced this is, and how calculating it is, and how thorough it is, and how they leave no stone left unturned and literally because you know, the minute we begin to connect with source energy, you know, they have nothing to feed on anymore.

42:14 Speaker 2: So.

42:15 Speaker 4: The ether element, which is part of our DNA. The nucleic acids of our DNA are elemental earth, air, firewater, ether. The inverted pentagram, which we see symbolic and satanism is the ether energy. The fifth point that you know when it goes up is connected to the ether. The inversion means that the ether is going into the ground, that the horns of the devil or satan, and that symbology is related to the planetary grid network and the reversal grid technology that put things in reversal and inversion.

42:50 Speaker 4: The Nuphlin reversal grid and Theniberian Dietic Crystal Grid were placed on the Michael Mary lines in the Stonehenge area. Most of these stargates have infiltration and reversal energy uh the tenth Gate Iran Iraq. So so they literally weaponize the planetary grid network to put us in duality. They unplugged the albion and cath our body to disconnect the masculine and feminine, so it would be all about uh duality, competition and not the Christ. So fear not the union that we see in you know, the incarnations of Yeshua, Jesus, Christ, Magdalene, Siva shot.

43:30 Speaker 4: You know, just all these reminders that whoa, these higher levels of our DNA are where alchemical union and sacred union and high organic union exists. So the whole junk DNA is, none of that exists. That's all junk. The reversal grid energy that keeps us in three D, keeps us in this dependency bond. Yeah, don't ever find out about what that junk DNA is. Don't ever you know, truly understand Jesus's relationship with Magdalene. Let's you know, have religions that just make your you know, healed wrror from ely.

44:03 Speaker 4: Yeah. So so all distortion, all distortion, because what they're afraid of is when we really recognize that union, our divine blueprint, we we start to correct the reversal grid technologies that were put in place, because our frequency, when we're aligned and and and as it begins to upgrade, literally dismantles the dark weaponry because it's all about frequency. We're the higher frequency. So so five G chemtrails. Geoengineering is social engineering. It's the same thing because socially engineered humans live in a geo engineered world.

44:39 Speaker 4: Because that's what's reflecting back. Humans that are controlled, their elementals are being controlled, placed in an inversion depression, anger, misplaced, you know, anger that you don't understand. The earth body degenerates really fast. We're aging a lot faster than we should. All our elementals are being weaponized or targeted. The fire element war anger, like I said, the mind mind control chemtrails air the air element, which is the mental. So you can see it in the zodiac. And that's what my presentations are about.

45:12 Speaker 4: So literally, the whole system is rigged to keep us from true source because as long as we're you know, caught in these inversions, we think something's wrong with us. There comes to fart, paraceuticals go on antidepressants.

45:26 Speaker 2: Going oh my god, I was literally just going to say it like and I hate to go to that conspiratorial because you know, I am the host and I do pride myself on trying to stay you know, neutral in some sense.

45:41 Speaker 3: But it is weird that.

45:46 Speaker 2: You look around at everybody today and they're either glued to their phone, but you're It's it's hard when you say because a lot of people are going to hear what you're saying and they're going to And I assume this probably happen to you a lot, because not only are you a female.

46:04 Speaker 3: But you're very well educated and well versed.

46:10 Speaker 2: And with the confidence you speak, you get a lot of information packed into your sentences. So I can only assume that people don't always take you seriously or check out or whatever because they're like, this is too wild.

46:29 Speaker 4: Right now, you're right fast, I talk fast. I crammed so much into a few sentences and I really want to work on my delivery.

46:38 Speaker 3: But isn't it weird?

46:40 Speaker 2: Isn't it weird, how what Because essentially what you're saying is that we're kept in this like environment where we go to our shitty job, you know, at nine, and we clock out at five, you know, the eight hours that are the best of the day we're at work for and we punch in. We probably you know, ninety percent of us. You know, I'm saying that generally they probably don't like their job. They just do it because they need the money to pay back the loans that they took out to go to college, which they didn't need, and they're stuck in this and financial depression that is the one that hurts a different way.

47:29 Speaker 2: And they get all these young kids to sign away their life before their brain's even fucking fully developed, and they got them in you know, debt that's gonna outlast their life most likely, you know, depending on the career path they chose, God forbid, it's a doctor.

47:48 Speaker 3: But they get them in and in.

47:50 Speaker 2: The system real quick, and they ensure that that, you know, in order to get a good job, you got to go to college. That is spit down your throat for the first eighteen years of your life. So then you think you got to go to college in which you know again, and I hate to go off on a rent here, but higher learning is definitely something that I think should exist, absolutely should exist. But it's not as critical as it's made out to be. And you don't need to put yourself into fifty years of debt in order to go to college.

48:23 Speaker 2: It's it's a weird idea. But then you get depressed because you're constantly going to this shitty job that you don't like, talking to people that you don't really care to talk to. You you come home, you know, maybe what you know, you get to take one vacation a year.

48:43 Speaker 3: This is not how we were supposed to live.

48:46 Speaker 4: No, and and and that's what creates.

48:49 Speaker 2: And they Yeah, then they get you on SSRIs because you're depressed. And then and then and then twenty years passes.

48:57 Speaker 4: Right, and it's your body's way of saying, hey, listen, you're not depressed because something's wrong with you. You're depressed because you need to listen to what your soul longing is and and and give it respect, give it attention. Anger is is you know, like we got to flip it around. You're passionate about something, but you're angry because you feel maybe helpless or you see something that I don't know angers you. Uh but but that's also a call to action. That is your fire, that is your that is that is where your leadership rises.

49:30 Speaker 4: Right. So studying the zodiac not just like the way maybe typical astrologers do. I I've looked at it from the angle of programmings, dark weapons, Saturn moon matrix, you know, Saturn planetary grid reversals, how the original tones turned into these personality traits that you know, scorpios can be very scary or like very obsessive or very jealous. Right, but the higher octave is transformation alchemy, Like we are encouraged to live the lowest level of what these aspects represent the whole. Our societies are geared towards that or you know, are self worth, the need for achievement, good grades, reward, you know, the reward punishment system.

50:10 Speaker 4: I have to behave and be rewarded for it. And most people that are rewarded to are serving agendas. They don't realize they're serving because in these rituals and in this sort of mk ultra you know, illuminati, you know kind of family, uh like just all that they you know, do to individuals is to groom them, abuse them and talk to them, and groom them to play roles, to become doctors, to become Hollywood stars, to become politicians, to influence those that went to school for it, to buy into a certain narrative and influence humanity to you know, adopt it, because they end up being you know, the CEOs do they end up being the A lister or they end up being the chief medical guide that tells everybody else, this is what you have to do, you know, especial.

51:00 Speaker 4: See what happened in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty with you know what, I want to be careful what I say. I don't know about your channel, but it is they were listening to the higher ups, right, but they were listening to the deeper agendas and running alters and being you know, not even fully. I mean, it's just so insane. So so the people that create the system, that had the money to create the system, that engineer and groom and abuse individuals to become influencers in all the fields that run our societies are convincing humans that are being raised in the system to become them to emulate that.

51:40 Speaker 4: I want to go to Hollywood or I want to be, you know, but there's players there that are steering narratives that they adopt and pass on to their patients, their students, you know, those that are watching the televisions and those that are watching the movies to you know, fall and fall prey to a lot of very damaging things, and very much well intentioned people get caught up in it. So the whole key of waking up is to correct the inversion, to begin to bring the highest octave in. And this is where society, you know, is collapsing inversion and and something else is emerging that is much more holistic, you know, instead of prisons, maybe rehabilitation centers, you know, where the tech that mind control people to turn into assassins or murderous people, you know, is de weaponized to help them activate parts of their brain that remind them of love, remind them of truth, you know, because you know, if you can turn a perfectly beautiful child into a sex slaver an assassin, you know, can't we use technology in a positive way that helps us to upgrade our DNA and return to the heart, you know.

52:55 Speaker 4: So I'm just saying that, like everything couldn't be more out of whack. When you look at the criminals and their activity, you know this is not how they began. This is this is so I don't know if I'm articulating this well because I have so much jet Like, I'm so sorry everybody, but I guess what I'm trying to say is how the nervous system of the planet is the planetary grid network in reversal. With the power structures of society being infiltrated, We're literally being raised into a system that is encouraging us to seek the lowest level of our nature and be addicted to it because it gets rewarded.

53:36 Speaker 4: Uh and and it hit certain parts of our brain that you know, becomes addictive instead of true spiritual light, instead of things that are sustaining, instead of things that are rewarding. We've been so right that we don't realize that we've enabled the satanic agendas. We've been We've been enablers because we've allowed our creative energy to be infiltrated and infected by all of this stuff that we gladly hand over our power and then walk a timeline is that is taking us into more enslavement and new world order and and yes, you know instant gratification and you know appeasing things in the brains, sugar, drugs, alcohol, you know all the inversions in the sexual energies and how it's being put out there jobs and careers that will make you a lot of money and give you all those things.

54:31 Speaker 4: Most of these people have to be heavily medicated though, to compensate for the things that they're addicted to that give them that high and low and extreme of experience to where none of the relationships end up working out and there's an epidemic of divorce and infidelity and fer. Yeah, that that everything could be more unhealthy. But the thing is we have to recognize that the adversity and disease that we may fall prey to is the path home again. It's the body's way of saying, these programmings aren't sitting well in my physical body.

55:06 Speaker 4: It's actually giving you cancer, is making you sick, it's giving you diabetes. This is an opportunity instead of giving your power away more. It's like, Okay, my body is alerting me to get to know myself more, to actually tune in to what my soul is saying to why I'm depressed to why I'm angry. So you know, let's put the drugs to the side and actually cry and listen and honor these parts of ourselves instead of be afraid of them. So all the planetary alignments that are healing the planetary system, which is major to hohod another conversation, they are creating syops and false flags out of and literally with their knowledge of you know, astrology and the zodiac and how we're born into it, they have created a programming and a target to every planetary aspect and every sort of blueprint that we're born with that literally holds the codes to our soul mission and how we repair this place.

56:00 Speaker 4: They're trying to intercept it and hijacket at a very young so we never stand in our power and they have not succeeded, and they're not succeeding. So does that make sense? So it does?

56:13 Speaker 3: It does?

56:14 Speaker 2: No, No, no, it does. So what do you think because I've always found it odd that we are a species, and even guys like Graham Hancock say this, We are a species with amnesia, right, we don't know our own origin story.

56:37 Speaker 3: We come out of the womb.

56:39 Speaker 2: And we're pretty much useless, helpless, without our mothers, you know where really the only creature like that on the Earth. We don't really fit any specific ecosystem anymore. We shed our we we stood up only to have back problems. We're burned by the very thing that gives us life and gives life to the universe, the Sun. We shed our pelt, I mean, shed our fur to need pelts in the winter. I just I can't help but think. And then I look at Mars right and the asteroid belt, and I can't help but think.

57:26 Speaker 2: I feel like there was another planet here at one point. Yeah, and it's smacked into Mars, and we might have that. Then there's radiological signatures on Mars Zion one nine that are only usually found after a catastrophic nuclear detonation, and the levels are extreme. So I have to wonder, uh, did.

57:49 Speaker 3: We do you do?

57:51 Speaker 4: You know?

57:52 Speaker 2: I mean, do you have any insight on this? On what happened with Mars? Are we from Mars or originally? This is something I've I've been talking about lately.

58:03 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, we're multi dimensional, right, you know. Some might feel more of a connection to Mars, some to Venus, some to Lyra, some to the Plate's, some to you know, serious and some to maybe all of them, and Dramata are curious. We hold DNA et genetics. We we we hold et genetics. Are we all designed the same way? No, we have our soul journeys, what we're drawn to, what we're attracted to. So when you look at like exploded planets, that's basically a shattering of a planet that we once lived upon.

58:41 Speaker 4: So we hold that trauma, the fragmentation exists in us, and and what we're doing as a humanity is holding pieces and shards of those explosions and looking to like bring back wholeness. Uh So, the asteroids in the asteroid belt are different archetypes, you know, when when we go from cosmic trinity to pantheon to planets to exploded planets, these asteroids have energy and archetypal imprints. Chirron, the Wounded Healer is an asteroid. It's connected to wounds, afflictions, pain, but it's also a healer.

59:19 Speaker 4: It gets on the healing journey. It turns wounds into wisdom and pain into purpose. You've got asteroids like you know, Juno and Lilith, and I mean there's too many to name, you know, but they all hold different stories. You know, Sedna Eiris Eiris is all about conflict and strife and it's a goddess energy. Uh And and what you're seeing in these fragmentations are archetypal energies that have created sort of personality traits that are seeking to be heard in order to bring about healing. So there's always a shadow side of whoa you know, really negative traits or you know, they might be violent, they might be aggressive, but in their higher octave, it's because they remember they want wholeness again.

1:00:07 Speaker 4: They want to return to the cosmic trinity. They want that chrys Sophia blueprint again. Because Tiamot that exploded, that became the five D asteroid belt. Tiamat and Apsu were like the Sacred Union planets. It was a sopionic planet. Marduk hit it and it exploded. Lots of history there. It's and then after we dropped down into this lower harmonic universe, Malduc exploded and that was, you know, around the time that

1:00:37 Speaker 4: the final Atlantean cataclysms, you know, took place not too long after. So we carry ancient trauma connected to exploded planets. And when we look at the asteroids and how they impact us at our own personal zodiac, because we all have different asteroids hitting different places in our charts. So when I do charts, I'll add some asteroids. But if you were to add all of them, literally, we would see our chart completely covered in asteroids, and that would be quite like you'd have to really nerd out and be like, all right, I'm gonna look at like thousands of asteroids and how it relates to your charge.

1:01:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe some other time, but do the like the main ones, right are the ones that people ask for? And you got ones connected to Medusa, and oh, it's just unbelievable. A lot of you know where we see these ancient battles and wars and pantheons and more and much more more than we can imagine. So as a humanity, we all carry affinities, you know, with different things. So if you have one of these asteroids on your ascendant or conjuncture son, that's going to be a main archetype that you are embodying in this lifetime to heal something on a much larger level, because Mother Earth is healing through us, the cosmic wars, the glastic wars are healing through us, and that's why the system is set up the way that it is, because it doesn't want us to heal.

1:01:55 Speaker 4: It doesn't want us to return to the cosmic trinity because then they can't be in control. So any soul that rejects the system figures it out, looks at these adversities and these challenges within our own nature and sees it as a way to get to the truth and the meaning behind why we feel the way that we do. Then we're coherent, Then we are conscious, we are aware, and we can actually take our struggles and differences and conflicts and pain and actually like rebuild something right now, More like the dark agenders are feeding on the trauma.

1:02:32 Speaker 4: They create trauma loops so that we're in fight or flight and we're constantly traumatized and we're pointing fingers at each other, and it's just so incredible, it's so incredible. So yeah, I'll just stop.

1:02:46 Speaker 2: There, you know, one of the things that I can't help. But so you've discussed ideas involving frequency awakening and energetic manipulation. Do you believe that modern society has been you know, hindered to where our potent, you know, our ancestors, you know, given things like the pyramid and the feats that they were able to accomplish, do you think that they had some sort of all, you know, technology that we have since been you know, ripped of in the sense of, you know, they talk about how these pyramids were possibly built, and one idea that's floated around is, you know, using frequency to essentially levitate.

1:03:37 Speaker 2: Do you think our ancestors were you know, more in and I'm talking about you know, pre dynastic and you know, maybe even before the the younger dryest. Do you think that there was technology on this planet at one point.

1:03:53 Speaker 3: That was less like our you know, less like our phone, right, less like this, and but but came more from inside.

1:04:03 Speaker 4: Oh? Absolutely, I mean we are the ultimate technology. When you look at the Guardian races or Forces eighth Force, that's not about UFOs, but UFOs on a higher level than you know, UFOs being flown by grace. The consciousness of the pilot is connected to the craft. It's a part of our energy field. It's a part of our aura. You know, when when we talk about Marcaba, you know, that's very much about the integration of the massulin and feminine, the right and left brain, the electric magnetic, the electrical and magnetic and when it achieves you know, integration through initiation instead of falling into the hijacking of what society wants us to do in the face of initiation is fear it, you know, because it's not always comfortable, medicate it, ignore it, distracted by it.

1:04:55 Speaker 4: We don't upgrade, we digress. But these you know, initiations are taking us into an ability for our oric field and consciousness to make us that advanced, to be able to levitate, to be like a craft that can come and go from the physical realm as we please. So advanced civilizations. You know, we're talking like seven root races, Polaris, Hyperborea, talk about Advanced Lameria, Atlantis Avalon. I mean that's not a root race, but you know, going into the Arians and then you know, just on and on, uh, seven root races, five cloister races.

1:05:36 Speaker 4: When we landed in this lower harmonic universe, it was about rehabilitation and rebuilding our DNA over the course of time because we are vulnerable because of amnesia, because of the trauma and the planetary grid network. We dealt with invaders, and the invaders can be catalysts and reminders because we see the contrast that's not a vibrational match to our inner truth and knowingness. But the problem is, generation after generation, the genetics and the genetic damage began to change, where you would literally be born with an orientation to something that completely has forgotten source or the true blueprint, and the unconsciousness usually manifests as physical issues, behavioral pattern issues, and people don't tend to explore it.

1:06:27 Speaker 4: That's not part of how society is set up because it's not a healthy system. It's rigged to keep us from that. So we're not exploring like, okay, I've genetically connected to heart disease, but we're not looking at the wars and traumas our ancestors might have experienced that created a certain amount of stress that created, you know, this damage to the heart that just becomes like something you inherit, like, oh, you're predisposed. Why are you predisposed? You have to understand the root. So I'm sorry, I know I'm drifting off from you.

1:06:57 Speaker 2: No, no, no no, But it's been proven that generational trauma is is absolutely a thing as we inherit trauma from our ancestors were.

1:07:09 Speaker 4: Clear for our ancestors, for ourselves, for the future, for future generations. But the bringing back to the original question again.

1:07:16 Speaker 2: So do you think that our ancestors were in touch with Yeah, yeah, they're distraction stones and rocks, and the pyramid technology was connecting with the star systems and the you.

1:07:29 Speaker 4: Know, the stargates. And I mean, this isn't just a planet that it's like we look out into the stars and there's something out there. I mean, advanced et groups have lived here, they live underground. There are cities underground, there's subterranean civilizations, but there's also what do you make deep state Illuminati structures and tunnels and cities, and I mean, it's just it's just like the diversity and extremes of polarity on this planet. It's crazy. And it's one of the rants that actually has fallen into this much inversion that is actually capable of being corrected.

1:08:06 Speaker 4: It's it's one of the only or few planets that have gotten this far away from source and so deeply entrenched into an inversion that actually is capable of correcting itself without blowing up, without destructing. But you know these other planets, it wasn't the humans though, it was the controllers and their own battles that you know, cause the destruction and you know the explosions. But if a planet is not able to ascend, it begins to atrophy like it just it doesn't have humans as conduits. It as humans as batteries for uh, you know the script writers that rely on our creative energy that just come up with the syops and fall flags that we fall prey to and consent to, they have no creative energy.

1:08:53 Speaker 4: They rely on us. That's why they use children. They use our creative energy and programmings to lure us in the minute we realize that we are on the ascension path.

1:09:04 Speaker 2: And then there's nothing like they can't they will never be able to control someone who's ascended. It's impossible because you can see through the bullshit. And you know, I don't want to sound like I'm like trying to like, you know, be one.

1:09:22 Speaker 3: Like to be super cool. But you know, ever.

1:09:25 Speaker 2: Since i've really you know, I've always been into this topic, but ever since I really dove deep and like obviously spent you know, I have a studio here in Boston, Like you know, I I've spent a lot of money searching for answers, and I've had sightings and that's something I want to ask you about when before we round out. I know we have a limited time. I'd love to have you back on. I could talk to you for hours. I'd love to bring you to the studio and really have a proper discus.

1:10:00 Speaker 4: Oh and I won't and I promise to talk slower and I won't be.

1:10:03 Speaker 3: So No, you're great, great.

1:10:06 Speaker 2: I'm usually the one who's over talking, so it's actually nice. It's refreshing to have someone else kind of uh take the lead. But so with that being said, I wanted to talk about you know, you you brought up underground bases. Even members of Congress like Tim Burchett are now speaking about how these things come that they might not be extraterrestrial and the typical sense, but ultra terrestrial. They might have lived here or or have been here as long, if not longer than us. And you know, is that a weird thing to start seeing in the news, and you know, from members of Congress or you know, does it make you skeptical?

1:10:58 Speaker 2: What does that make you feel like when you start hearing it from the quote unquote mainstream. At this point, I'm just.

1:11:05 Speaker 4: So like in my own weird world of knowing and understanding what I know with the flexibility of you know, adjusting things that I might have thought I know or knew because I, you know, really paying attention to listening to my body and and and just you know, I don't know and my mind in my heart and my soul, and uh so I I I don't When I see things outside myself, I might feel a resonance. I might feel a discord or a red flag or a I guess what comes up for me when you say that it's okay, it's it's it's it's becoming more of the dialogue.

1:11:49 Speaker 4: But it's always been here, you know, we're talking about something that's always been present. It's it's like it's like a light in a room that is now being lit up, but it was always so to me, It's like, okay, now that the lights are on, but maybe it's not fully illuminated. How can they maybe change the way we perceive it before the lights are fully on. That's why they timelines. That's why they try and rewrite history, because when the lights come on, can they get away with it being different than the original storyline?

1:12:27 Speaker 4: And and the storyline connected to organic ascension that has has has allowed that where humans have allowed so much of the healing and and remembrance to move through them to be able to protect the timeline and protect the trajectory of the human race. But yeah, because you know, but this is individual. We have to be willing to inside ourselves because we can only win the war from within.

1:12:55 Speaker 3: So are you are you saying that to some degree? Now?

1:13:03 Speaker 2: I I know when I say this, people are gonna think of like humans and pods. And you know, I've had Rizwan Virkin here and he's more of a classical like simulation theory guy.

1:13:16 Speaker 3: But it sounds like, so do you.

1:13:18 Speaker 2: I are you saying that we do live in a simulation to some degree? It's just not it's not the matrix like you see in the movies. But that is them just telling you outright. I do think like with certain things in pop culture, like they're just putting they're they're they're putting it out there in plain sight.

1:13:43 Speaker 4: Like putting one out there like like that you're.

1:13:45 Speaker 2: In a matrix, like they're they're you know, I don't even know. Maybe they're actually like obligated to inform us of these things, and that's how they do it.

1:13:57 Speaker 4: Well, those that are by them have to consent. There's a certain point, and I just watched a video a day today where you're at a certain age it's usually thirteen years old, where it's the final like will when you're a child and you're being abu you know, you're not in charge of yourself. You just want attached, You just want connection, and you're being tortured and manipulated. But there's a certain point where they say that you have to be an allegiance and you have the choice. They were hoping that they would get you to a point where that was guaranteed, and if you weren't going to go along with it, they would torture you, erase your memories, kill an altar, and make sure that you were going to be an allegiance and be in agreement that you would have fame, fortune, and be an influencer to society.

1:14:48 Speaker 4: And that would be so tempting that you will go with it, because if you say no and you continue to stand your ground, that's when they lose their grip on you, and that's when you start to spiritually advance. So this guy that I've been watching lately who I'm gonna be talking to you more survived that and and refused and and what an incredible you know being this this man is and uh, I just want to make sure I get his name correct, Alandra Markman.

1:15:22 Speaker 3: So I know, Alandra.

1:15:25 Speaker 4: Yeah. So they need oh cool, Yeah, so they need our consent as humans. They need But what was the question?

1:15:34 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, No, you're okay, You're okay, market.

1:15:40 Speaker 2: So because I it was a very long, like long winded question, but oh god, I even forgot it at this point.

1:15:51 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, something about like consent or.

1:15:54 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

1:15:55 Speaker 2: So is it your impression that we are living in a simulated universe?

1:16:02 Speaker 1: Uh?

1:16:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a simulated world, I should say to me, it's.

1:16:06 Speaker 4: An overlay on on you know what's real. Saturn has rings. Saturn used to be a sun, the Moon a satellite.

1:16:15 Speaker 1: Uh.

1:16:16 Speaker 4: And and how the frequencies from the Moon and the rings of Saturn simulate our reality because the lowest octave of Saturn is tyranny, control authority, and and systems. The black cube of Saturn is the harvesting tank that has collected all of our energies to feed this sort of moloch or satan or you know that that is in charge that that looks like society structures that are encouraging us to be successful in life or to have happy families. But then it's all targeted within that very system to kind of put that carrot and that bait in front of us to then, you know, also insert a lot of things that destroy it and break it apart.

1:16:59 Speaker 4: Uh So, But the true essence of Saturn and its highest octave is self mastery is becoming a rat shower and a teacher. It's the law of structure. And that's when the rings and the weaponization of it becomes dissolved because we dismantle the weaponry from within. So every planet has its inverted shadow expression. They use dark technologies to like five G and the reversal Grid network on the Earth to collect energy that has fallen prey to the programs. But the minute you rise above it and override it, it doesn't have any impact on you anymore.

1:17:35 Speaker 4: In fact, you are able to transmute it and collapse it. You're able to clear it. You're able to And that's the thing we don't understand some do we have to remind ourselves, is that it doesn't have as much power over us as we think, because the weaponry all on its own would not be successful. If we were never programmed, if we were never influenced by the television, Hollywood, the medical end Street, the educational uh, the educations that we've gotten, we would have overrit in that technology from the get go.

1:18:07 Speaker 4: We would have no impact on us because we would be developing very organically. We'd be guided to be the fullness and truth of ourselves. We would understand our emotional energy when it falls into a murky place, and we would you know, answer to it and and and respected it, not medicate it, because it's it's a it's it's our higher self and body alerting us to finding a solution and and and shifting the energy, you know, in a better direction. It's like here, it's not something to fear, but it's not something to live in and and make decision right.

1:18:43 Speaker 3: And I think I think anxiety is natural, right.

1:18:47 Speaker 4: It's downloads, It's impacts our nervous system. It's downloads trying to get in. And when you repress it, when you clapse it and it becomes internalized, then you're in a trauma loop. In a panic attack, when you're allowed to bring that in, you have genie insights, you have epiphanies, you can recognize the synchronicities. And the school systems don't want that. They don't want rising geniuses. They want to tell you you know what to think, and regurgitate that and pass a test. So I guess what I'm trying to say is we're already tuned into the solution.

1:19:17 Speaker 4: The simulation is the inversion and the weaponization of all that comes naturally to us, to make it a problem so that we fear it. When we step away from that, we actually connect to the true nature of creation, which is initiation, which is synchronicity, which is as to make a natural law that knows how to correct anything that falls into injury and imbalance by nature, it just knows that intelligence knows how to correct. And that's what's happening on the earth, and they're trying desperately to distract us away from that and to fear the pain and the issues that come up in us and make it something that they can leverage to pit us against each other, to keep us sick, and when in actual fact, these are organic processes from the cosmos itself to create the repair and the transformations that are necessary for us to find our wholeness again and to return to the original design, which is our divine blueprint, our divine inheritance that's coming from our true creator parents, not these foster parents that tinkered with our DNA, that have tinkered with everything about life.

1:20:25 Speaker 4: So when we can see the difference, that is when we begin to really start enjoying life. It's sort of like when you recognize that man, this guy, or this girl that you're dating doesn't really love you. They're manipulating you their energy vampires. The minute you say I'm going to choose me and you break up with them, you're now on a trajectory to find true love. So when we break up with the system, we're now on a trajectory to experience the true love of creation, our true connection with source.

1:20:49 Speaker 4: Recognize that these gods that have been put in place, these outer authority figures, they were baiting us all along. And it's not that those that were doing that all of them are malevolent. Some are absolutely under the mind control, some are absolutely been tortured to play that role, and some fell for it because it was appealing to their good nature. I just want to be a good person. I want to, you know, have a strong moral compass. I'll go to church. That's a beautiful thing. That agenda doesn't, you know, mean that they're a bad person.

1:21:22 Speaker 4: It's just recognizing that this needs to be changed. We cannot be in denial about what's going on in the Vatican. We cannot be in denial about what's going on in the Mormon Church. We cannot be in denial about the false stories and the rewritten texts that we call ancient texts that the Ananachy altered. You know that we're willing to face this infiltration and clean it up so that it can express itself in the highest form, and then our children will be born healthy and not inheritors of this dysfunction and disease sickness.

1:21:52 Speaker 4: But the same thing is the functionsfunction and disease and adversity is the call to come home. So let's giving our power away for the very thing that created it to solve it.

1:22:02 Speaker 2: That's right, do you so you've claimed that you were targeted and and well we'll be wrapping it up again. I'd love to have you back. You claim that you were targeted for participation in some secretive offworld or Mars related programs for skeptics. Hearing that for the first time, what would you say, convinced you these experiences were real?

1:22:34 Speaker 3: You know, given that you are.

1:22:38 Speaker 2: On the same lineage as President Eisenhower, there is something said to be there is something to be said about blood lines.

1:22:48 Speaker 4: So right, well, this blood line is not Illuminati. There. Swiss German migrated to the United States in the seventeen hundreds and were men and I so you're talking like very very I don't want to say the word poor, because they were rich in other ways. But nobody, you know, not born into He wasn't born into some illuminati family. It's not like there's no family wealth. He didn't sell out, so nobody inherited anything. Most of what he, you know, was able to establish, Like the Gettisburg farm is now a museum.

1:23:23 Speaker 4: It's not you know, something that we can all be like, oh, we live here, you know, on the land. It's like, no, we'll go to the museum and be like, oh my god, I slept there when I was a little kid. So it's pretty funny. And uh yeah, so hard workers and you know, but bloodline, Okay, so we're part of you know whatever bloodline that is very, very different. And I could explore that, and I have my ideas and I've heard you know certain things. But so to get into your question, the Mars recruitment, well, Eisenhower was brief during his administration, uh that you know, a descendant would come in to help continue a just exposing dark agendas and kind of taking his speech to the next level with with a lot of others and uh.

1:24:12 Speaker 4: And and it's said in a book that this Native American woman gave me with some connection with the Taigettons that the Guardians had gifted the Eisenhower family. You know, a descendant that would you know, do this. And but that doesn't make me. I'm not saying that, or I didn't interpret it in like, oh I'm special. It's more, you know, I was coming in from that place and that ability to remember.

1:24:37 Speaker 2: Uh.

1:24:37 Speaker 4: And I was tasked with this mission that exists in everyone, you know, to find their authenticity, find their truth, find their connection to their higher self and these higher dimensional aspects of the self, you know, because there's no hierarchy when it comes to benevolent galactic beings. It's more about, oh, we can help activate you and help to you know, switch on things that are dormant, not to say that we don't go through our struggles and lose that along the way and fall into like pits and overwhelm.

1:25:05 Speaker 4: And you know, we're having a human experience too, so and we can fall into forgetfulness as well. And somebody who's just awakening can help her mind us. I mean, it's it's not about hierarchy. It's just about you know, agreements, and we all have agreements. So anyway, he was briefed, you know, working with val Thor, and how Valthor helped him to appeal to the Guardians, that rest assured there's going to be a descendant that comes in that will continue to carry this on. He had already put countermeasures in place as well, the White Hats Alliance and Ikes Force, but he was told that a migration of souls were coming in.

1:25:39 Speaker 4: There's been souls coming in for thousands and thousands of years, that we would all find each other and work together. But he, you know, was reassured that a family member would come in. And this is not to say that my work is more important than any other family member, but that I would address some of the deeper layers that are very hard to figure out, like the Greata Treaty, some of these false narratives. So they intercepted that information that a descendant was going to be coming in. So they pre targeted me before I was even born to be steered onto a timeline that would take me to Mars.

1:26:11 Speaker 4: So they used a partner that they located me with in a past life. They knew we had a strong sacred union energy bond relationships, so they weaponized it by taking him into this whole like sort of my lab abduction scenario where he started to get artificial telepathy and he was set on a mission by this group called the Aviary. You can look it up. Characters like John Alexander helped put off that all had bird names, which are you know, those that are responsible for a lot of my labs and manipulation.

1:26:50 Speaker 4: They pulled him in and he was having abduction experiences. And I could tell when I met him, because I was being targeted my whole life and I couldn't create anything without disruption or like something. I'm like, is this bad karma? What am I doing wrong?

1:27:06 Speaker 3: Why?

1:27:07 Speaker 4: And I went to a clairvoyant institute and they helped me to see and understand, but they really couldn't help me. So I just kind of gave up, like, whatever this energy is that is trying to stop me from living my life, kind of like take me to it. I'm just going to go with where I'm being pulled so I could confront it. And I ended up moving back to the DC area, living in my mom's basement at already birth twins my boys who are now twenty eight almost and I was just drawn to go to this event, this festival, and that's where I met the guy, and I thought I met him in an organic way and we immediately had this connection.

1:27:47 Speaker 4: But he was sent by the Aviary because they were tracking me to and monitoring my Internet activity to meet me at this festival and just to meet me in this normal way. But he was struggling with the fact that he had a natural attraction with me. But he was also sent to because they, yeah, they were using him as bait. They needed somebody that I had an authentic relationship with to use his bait, So they convinced him he was a hero. You're going to go meet you know, this woman that you have a connection with, and you're going to take her to Mars, and it's too much to explain, Oh my gosh.

1:28:21 Speaker 4: But so there's emails, there's names, there's you know, it's not like some like, oh I was taken to Mars because I dreamt about it. This was years of my life literally targeting like that. I experienced my whole life. And it connects with the alternative three scenario that was presented in the Eisenhower administration about colonization on Mars, which goes back to nineteen twenty nine, and how we put bases there and how that also became a possibility for the human genome to be protected, you know, to go off planet as an option.

1:28:54 Speaker 4: But why would we want to go that route? Why not stay on Earth and call out the dark technology and the engineered events that that would lead us to needing to evacuate Mother Earth? Just didn't make sense. So it's not like I'm trying to make them the bad guys. Uh. Most people are convinced to do things because they think it's the only option. But there were plants and dark players in that Aviary group that are disinfo agents that were put there on purpose to manipulate the rest of them.

1:29:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've talked to some of them.

1:29:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, And my partner became a member of the Aviary and he, you know, was dealing with the with the my labs and the If.

1:29:30 Speaker 2: You're saying that John Owl and those guys were part of it, that I've definitely spoken to some.

1:29:39 Speaker 3: Of these people. Yeah, I keep them at arm's length.

1:29:43 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I I.

1:29:46 Speaker 3: Know who I'm dealing with. You know, you just you gotta yeah. Yeah and distant.

1:29:53 Speaker 4: Yeah. And they're programmed or they're convinced to play that particular role, and it's not necessarily a bad role. It's like, if we're not in control of ourselves, something else is going to want to be in control of us. So this is what awakening is all about. If we're not awakened, how do you manage humans that are half asleep, that don't remember who they truly are, or you know how they are being manipulated by forces that want to keep them from remembering. So they're operating from that standpoint.

1:30:20 Speaker 4: I don't consider them. I don't know them well enough. He knew them better than me. I was being targeted through the love bait where he was used as bait to find me to act like we met on an organic sort of love level, and then you know, we started dating, and I had moved, you know, to live with my mother, and he was going to these secret meetings and it was all about leaving the planet, going to Mars, and like we were lucky, like like we are being protected. And so it was very hard for me to become public because I didn't want to ruin anything.

1:30:55 Speaker 4: But I was meditating and praying, like, if this is meant to be, set this up for me, so it's not something I decide to do. And then weird synchronicities happened. Alfred Lambermont Weber got an email that wasn't even supposed to be sent to him that I was in an email exchange with a friend just trying to get over this Mars recruitment and it just ended up in his lap. And then he gave me the first interview, and everything was screaming to me, you have to expose this, and I knew that one day I probably would, but I wasn't seeking a public position.

1:31:27 Speaker 4: I'm not, like you can tell, I'm not a good maybe on camera kind of person, but I knew, thanks, but I knew out of necessity that we have to understand the use of these weapons to simulate this reality. So going back to simulation, that are engineering events and artificial timelines to take humans down a trajectory that's going to further enslave us, where the elites go underground or go off planet to Mars and take whoever they want to use there for whatever reason. Breeding Perhaps I was younger then, I already had my twins.

1:32:02 Speaker 4: I was like, am I going to take them to the face on Mars again? Like I'm not going to live on Mars with my children. I'm sorry, And I knew, you know from childhood that I was here for mother Earth, the Sofionic mission, you know, the Guardians and Mother Earth. It was always that for me. So they put a lot of plants in my place and targeted me a lot, so I'd lose my self worth and think that I was just crazy and that I was just stupid because I skipped school so much, and to just they used all sorts of tactics I learned about in order to really break me down so that I would be like, oh, yeah, let's go to Mars.

1:32:37 Speaker 4: And you know, the love of my life, You know that I remember from a past life. You know, we're just going to go and like be saved from the wreckage of what humanity is going to become, right, not even close. And actual fact, it unearthed my mission even more because I could see the contrast so much. Even though I didn't know everything about the aviary or how dark it was, my intuition guided me. I had dreams and I researched and found things that they literally removed that you couldn't find. And ten years later somebody created a website about them and exposed them, but they had wiped all a bit.

1:33:14 Speaker 4: I mean, it was the most unbelievable thing. And I tried to write about it in my book, but my book got hijacked and I had to rewrite it. I mean, it's just it was unbelievable. I'm like, I'm like, I'm in the most messed up like movie, Like you know, they all bird names. I'm like, this is like Batman gone bad, Like this is like what is this? There was like penguin, there was owl there. It was so weird.

1:33:39 Speaker 2: That's good comparison, though, That's such a good comparison because you're right, the penguin, you got the Court of Owls. Yeah, that's that's hilarious, like.

1:33:51 Speaker 4: Like they all had bird names, code names, and their UFO research group they had.

1:33:55 Speaker 3: They were double dipping.

1:33:58 Speaker 2: So they're playing the disclosure angle in order to leverage relationship.

1:34:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, say it again.

1:34:06 Speaker 2: So they're there because I've long had suspect suspicions of specifically guys like how put Off, who are seemingly they're double dipping. Right, they'll they'll, they'll appear wherever the money is right, wherever there's a program a big low to angel fund right, and then TTSA they show up there anytime there's money to be you know, to be had on some of these pros. And then then but they're also the same guys that are doing interviews on age of disclosure and really shaping modern UFO disclosure, the narrative at least that they're trying to push this national security angle and how you know, we we need to live in co constant fear of this you know, alien overlord, that that is going to come.

1:35:06 Speaker 3: But you know, it's it's it's there. They're double dipping.

1:35:10 Speaker 2: It looks like so they're they've got one foot in the black programs and then one foot in the disclosure community. And they're pretending like, you know, one foot, you know, one hand doesn't feed.

1:35:21 Speaker 4: The other exactly totally. And they did not expect me to be so adamant about not going along with it, and they really thought they had me, and they weren't really prepared for it.

1:35:32 Speaker 2: And because you're such an easy cell on the circuit, what's that. You're an easy sell on the UFO lecture circuit, right, You're an easy sell on podcasts because you're the great granddaughter of Eisenhower. The military industrial complex, like, you're almost ingrained in UFO lore to a degree.

1:35:50 Speaker 3: So your name carries your bloodline carries that weight with it.

1:35:55 Speaker 2: And of course they want to capture someone like you.

1:35:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, totally and and that that and that's you know, that's like with a lot of individuals coming in, when they see what you're here to do, they will do everything they can to capture it, to own it, to destroy it, to eradicate it. But they don't want to eradicate it. They want to use it, or they know what's at stake if they, you know, do take you out. They want you to take yourself out. They want to set up so many engineered scenarios to where you break down and you lose it, you go crazy, you give up, you blame yourself.

1:36:28 Speaker 4: And this is the thing that somebody helped me downe all these events, everything relationships, targeting relationships, putting plants in your your path to really trip you up to you know, really and then they'll target you within your own families and and there's many tactics in ways. You know, there's no Illuminati SR or mind control that ever happened. And growing up, this was all like from outside that was literally trying to derail me. And and I was derailed again and again and again, and I just pulled myself back.

1:36:59 Speaker 4: I'm you know, because I'm a sensitive soul, and sometimes I'm like, you know, the enormity of this mission and what they're trying to do just sounds so you know, you can't help it, be like are you sure, Laura, Like you know, but but you know that when you trust it, that's what brings you back to life. Anytime I doubted it, or anytime like I really let it get to me, or I really blame myself or thought you know, it was me, or it wasn't until it really presented itself to me that I began to heal because I was like, yes,

1:37:31 Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, it's it's just I still have a lot of healing to do.

1:37:36 Speaker 2: I think, I honestly, I truly think that, you know, and I'm sure that people have tried to call you crazy or you know, because you probably wouldn't play the disclosure narrative game, of course, and then they call you kooki and they blacklist you and oh.

1:37:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well they Dan Cooper, the one that shared about a lot of the stuff that I've brought up about nineteen fifty two and Truman administration surrendering us to the Yeah, yeah, we talk all the time. We're gonna do yeah, yeah, yeah, it'd be great. We're really good together. Or you could have him alone.

1:38:15 Speaker 3: It's just I would love to do that. Yeah, yeah, I'll bring both of you here. Yeah.

1:38:19 Speaker 4: And and from there, you know, I'm sure he'd be open to, you know, continuing a conversation. I don't have to be there, of course, But where was I going.

1:38:29 Speaker 3: Dan, sharing all this stuff with you?

1:38:31 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but before that.

1:38:35 Speaker 3: Oh, keeping you in control, you know.

1:38:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, just engineering you know, events. He said, they spend billions of dollars, trillions, he said millions to billions and one time he said trillions. I'm like, there's no way. He said, they spend so much money to put the blame on Ike about signing treaties and to uh disparage him and make him look like he was the reason also to discredit use and nobody takes you seriously. And he said, they spend so much money on trolls, so much on the attacks to many of us, it's not you know, uh, there's so many of us that contend with this.

1:39:14 Speaker 4: You know, I'm just one part of it. This is a unified mission. You know, we you are doing incredible right. We're together talking because this is what we do. We're this is the work we're here to do. We all have our different functions and positions that we've been placed in and ways to reach the public, uh, to to get to the bottom of this. And he just talked about how much they spend, how much they spend, how many people they pay. So a lot of these characters have been lured by the money, like or you know, traumatized views and mind controlled into you know, compliancy or you.

1:39:52 Speaker 2: Know how easy it is to get someone to give up information when you by them. So when you have a black limousine, pick someone up at their house, and then you fly them first class to whatever city and you bring them out to dinner in another black limousine, doesn't have to be black.

1:40:13 Speaker 3: But you know what I mean, you know how many people just spill because they so weird.

1:40:20 Speaker 4: It's crazy, you know, I mean, but none of that ever appealed to me. Riches and fame, like I just it's it's for people, person, I guess I don't know, Like, well.

1:40:32 Speaker 2: It's because you've begun that ascension process and materialists stop. Materialism has stopped. It's for them, it's everything for you. It's but a consequence of the world that we live in, right And you you know, of course you have a computer, you have a thing. You know, these things are useful, but they are a circumstance of the reality we live in. You know, you wouldn't be on it if it wasn't, you know, the only way to do this podcast and connect with people like it's it's a necessary evil to some degree.

1:41:06 Speaker 3: But what I fear is things like you.

1:41:10 Speaker 2: Know, before the phone people, I mean, they they barely let you use a fucking calculator in school when I was there, Right, there're a math test now, and then you know how many people's phone numbers I would have memorized and how people got around direction wise.

1:41:33 Speaker 3: Now no one can remember a phone.

1:41:36 Speaker 2: Number, No one knows any no one retains any information because you have you have the phone in your hand, and it's getting worse with AI. You barely have to remember anything. And it's just it's the.

1:41:49 Speaker 4: Way thesis papers and you don't even need a university.

1:41:52 Speaker 2: I mean, do you know how many people on YouTube? I I click onto a video because it looks interesting, and everything from the thumbnail to the title, to the script to the basic bitch visual effects that are fifteen seconds long, because that's you know, the limit of AI video. And it's just that repeated over again. It's just AI slop. People have literally given up, they've given up for.

1:42:21 Speaker 3: And it's creating a hive mind.

1:42:24 Speaker 2: It's very and I probably sound ludicrously crazy right now, but look around, guys, the world is not the same.

1:42:34 Speaker 3: It scares me.

1:42:35 Speaker 2: Laura, have you ever seen a UFO or non human intelligence with your own eyes?

1:42:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I've seen things. I mean, there's a lot of reverse engineercraft. I'm not one that goes up in ships and can tell the stories of Oh, I just got taken up into a ship, and I just I have had some experiences, and some aren't even that long ago where I could tell it. Even my husband and I were sitting in the hot tub, were like, there's like this massive ship and I was going through these upgrades, like I really felt like I was being healed, and and I was having all these like visions and I'm like, was it the lotus tree or excuse me, the lotus flower teeth that I've been drinking lately.

1:43:16 Speaker 4: Because it's like I was seeing things that I couldn't even freaking believe. And so I'm sitting there trying to record it, and people were probably like, are you sure you're one on mushrooms or some kind of drunk and and and you know, I've had interesting experiences on those things, but me too. I'm sitting here recording, right, and I wake up. I'm like, I can't wait to show people, right, And I'm like so excited, you know, to play it back, because I'm seeing unbelievable stuff. And there's like higher beings and like higher intel and they're all healing me and and I'm like so excited to play.

1:43:46 Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, honey, check it out. And I play it and it's just black. It's just like nothing. I'm like, are you serious? It was just black and there was like this little like you could just see and and I'm like, okay, I know that happened. I mean it was the most real thing I and I I felt myself being adjusted. I felt it in my nervousness and I felt it all over my body. And yeah, and I wish they would come back because I'm feeling a little bit like wow. But when I was younger, I was having dreams and I was being prepared.

1:44:12 Speaker 4: I was being prepared. I was having dreams, and I was seeing these luminous beings and they had me look through this viewfinder at timelines and they were showing me the difference between the engineered one and the organic one, and they said, the future is going to be so beautiful, you know, if you just trust yourself and believe in yourself, do not let them take you into you know whatever. And that was, you know, pretty much the message. Balthor. I've always felt a strong connection with and the Guardians and Lisa Rene, who is you know, a major guardian force on the planet.

1:44:43 Speaker 4: But it's mostly been very earth bound for me, going into underworlds, like doing a lot of grid work, but not just sitting there and meditating on you know, a grid site, but literally going into the trenches of major, major, deep, deep underworlds, because you know, it's connected to the stargates, it's connected to to the mothers of darkness and the reversal energies like and it's in my book, and I tried to make sense out of it. And I wasn't sitting there when I was going through it, like, oh, I'm just going through the underworld to you know, correct these inversions.

1:45:12 Speaker 4: But I knew that that was what I was doing, and I journaled it and I wrote about it, and I understood it in a way that I was able to, you know, express in a very archetypal sort of mythological way, and that we're all doing it, whether we realize it or not. We are creating corrections all the time, every time we collapse the programming, every time we walk through inversion in order to release its grip on us and the way it makes us feel, and we bring it back into sovereignty and authenticity. We're doing way more than we can imagine.

1:45:45 Speaker 4: We're not just here just like like we're all very multi dimensional. So I knew, like I'm doing it, but everybody's doing it. Sometimes we just don't realize what we're doing. So it became my mission to be coherent and aware of it enough to remind people, like when you're going through that crisis, when you're going through that dark knight of the soul, don't you know forget the healing work that it's bringing to the planet. We very often fall into self judgment or you know, I'm failing or this, and that we don't realize like how much we're dismantling when something doesn't work out the way we hoped, or we have to let go of an attachment, or we have to lose something to really fall back on ourselves and find that internal light, to find that a greater depth within ourselves.

1:46:31 Speaker 4: I don't know, it's it's too complicated to I don't know. It's really a lot of what my book is about, which is not has no bit of AI that helped me write it.

1:46:45 Speaker 4: So I'll just kind of stop there. But yeah, Underworld Journeys I mean the venus transits, you know.

1:46:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well we'll wrap up. I know you've got a limited time, So one else question before I would luck again, I told you I'd love to have you back on. I really like these kind of discussions where I kind of just get to to riff with somebody who's.

1:47:11 Speaker 4: Aros audience is like she talks. I mean, they can say whatever.

1:47:15 Speaker 3: I like. I said, I feel like I'm grown past the caring.

1:47:20 Speaker 4: I don't care. I just uh, I know sometimes I gotta slow it down. And uh, but yeah, what's your last question?

1:47:30 Speaker 2: If if your great grandfather was here today, what and he was able to give a give a speech? Uh, what do you think some of his main topics would be preaching, you know again, to this to this world that may be unrecognizable.

1:47:52 Speaker 3: And I feel like, because he tried to divert it and at.

1:47:55 Speaker 2: Least warn us, but maybe we didn't heed the war, I think he.

1:48:01 Speaker 4: Would emphasize a lot more the knowledgeable and aware citizenry, beware of this military industrial complex, but be aware of your importance. It's not just being aware of the deep state, the dark agendas, the infrastructure, the you know, the the greater powers and this is why him and I have an agreement, because this is what I'm coming in to remind people of. And he's been with me since I was a child. He appeared to me when I was a kid, and I'm like okay, like and I'm like figuring out, like, oh my god, I'm like was born into this family and I'm.

1:48:32 Speaker 3: Seeing like you as like a like oh yeah, he's.

1:48:36 Speaker 4: Been working with me. And every time I would work with like like a clairvoyant or I went to this clairvoyant institute by accident, well there's no accidents, but synchronistically I stumbled upon it. When I was in California. I wanted to go to an herbal school. The minute I walked in the door, they didn't know me my name. I wasn't even carrying the name at the time. They said, Eisenhower just walked in the room. And I went up to the room. Yeah, and I'm like, I'm related to He goes, oh yeah, he walked in right right behind you, right whoa ageah.

1:49:03 Speaker 4: And I just did a conference and a lot of the psychics that were at the conference where like he was standing right behind you and they were in tears. So so I know what he would say, because it's a lot of what I'm saying because he helps me, and it's coming from both of us. It's not like I'm channeling him. It's just we both are in alignment with this message. Is that it's about us. We're it's about remembering who we are. That the most important thing is that we don't get hijacked. The warning about the military industrial complex and so we don't lose ourselves to it and how it disguises itself through the programmings in these different institutions that we participate in.

1:49:45 Speaker 4: Uh, but we we don't see it as a programming. It disguises itself as being helpful, being supportive. If we want to become a participant in the field, or we become a patient or a student, or we become the teacher or the doctor. Like we have to remember ourselves. We have to challenge it, we have to upgrade it, we have to take it to the next level. The biggest loss in in our experiences when children are raised to forget who they are, to think that being silenced is because they're wrong, or or what they saw isn't really real.

1:50:28 Speaker 4: It's in their mass valid is smarter that they need to learn from that instructor or outter authority. We need to guide our children to realize that you're the leaders of the future. You came in with very unique knowledge and wisdom and experience that we need to understand in order to assist you in being the best version of yourself, instead of being indoctrinated and being controlled and having your gifts and abilities used to steer a narrative that you are convinced is a good idea. So the most important thing that we remember is that every single one of us counts as not about a hierarchical governmental system.

1:51:02 Speaker 4: It's about each of us, you know, realizing our worth and value, and that it's not up to just one person. It's not up to a chosen race. We all are chosen, and the true chosen ones are are all of us. But we have to embody the love and wisdom to to to like be that force in the world. It's it's not that anybody has chosen, it's all of us are chosen. To remember, and when we do and we embody it, then we come together and recognize that we are a glactic and earthly family and we begin to open up to the larger landscape of it all.

1:51:41 Speaker 4: What's not chosen as hatred division, you know. So so all these race wars and root races being put against each other, so that we're all in this battle of who's superior, who should be in charge, who's the biggest victim. Also, we have to remember every single one of us counts, and the true chosen one is just the embodiment of love and wisdom, and every single person has access to it. And and it's not love and wisdom, it's it's just love and wisdom. It's your authenticity, your own unique intelligence.

1:52:09 Speaker 4: There are many different forms of intelligence, and the society is only targeted particular types. So anyway, I'm not saying it like to the degree that he would, he'd say it much better than me, but that it's not outside of you, it's not some leader, it's not some chosen group, it's not you know, anything like that.

1:52:28 Speaker 3: You don't have to wait for it, you have to go grab.

1:52:30 Speaker 4: It, exactly, And and that you're just as important and as divine and as special and as uh like much a part of this as any but as anything that you you you you you might have given your power away to you know, let let yourself be reminded that it might help you to a certain degree, but yeah, don't be so dependent on it that you forget yourself. Maybe it'll help you to a certain degre, but if it doesn't help you to remember who you are, then beyond that quest for self remembrance and just know that everything in our life that we experience is designed to bring us to that, and anything that tries to define it for you, definitely question.

1:53:19 Speaker 2: Raise that red flag should be raising if someone's telling you I got the whole picture.

1:53:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, and like the doctor's saying, you have this disease, this is how long you're going to live, and this is what it's going to look like. You need to take this drug. You know, if it doesn't feel right, trust yourself. You are built with the instincts, the intuition, and the higher self connection to know how to manage every single thing that comes along your path. But because it's so difficult to take the time to really feel into it, make sure to work with people that support that and nurture it and want to help empower it.

1:53:52 Speaker 4: And anybody that is pulling you further away from yourself, you know, just walk the other way. There are plenty that will go you to that remembrance or you will find it yourself, no matter what, Every single one of us counts, and that's the beauty of this creation is that we're born at different times of the planetary alignments healing its own planetary system. We all carry pieces of this system repairing itself. The hijacking is so we miss the opportunity and we handed to them, and when we handed to them, they become that consistent hierarchy that draws us further and further into transhumanism, into enslavement and into losing our soul matrix to the point where we become grays or ebs and we're not even human anymore.

1:54:40 Speaker 4: So remember that every challenge in life, every disease, is an opportunity to get closer to home. It'll guide you back. That body is simply saying that something's wrong with that program, instead of handing it over to somebody to get you further entrenched in losing your soul and your remembrance. So the very thing that is weaponizing our awakening can also remind us.

1:55:08 Speaker 2: What are these what do people say that these these draco or you know, these thing what a lot of people I think say reptilian as well, is are are those similar?

1:55:24 Speaker 3: Like?

1:55:24 Speaker 2: What are these things uh look like? Or what do people describe them as?

1:55:29 Speaker 4: Long Draco's are you know a specific type of reptilian? And you know you got your white Draco, You've got your you know Draco's with the snake looking eyes and shape shifting humans that some might say, oh that that can't be real. David Ike has talked about it, But do survivors really see that? Not every survivor has and many have, many have and uh so Ananaki are like basically reptilian hybrids. Uh so, you know, and for those who maxon Agenda is connected to the drake Go and they run or rule many many different planets and races.

1:56:08 Speaker 4: I don't know what they look like because I never really you know, I don't.

1:56:14 Speaker 2: I mean the Theaki you're saying, the on Inaki. So and for anyone doesn't know, this is the ancient Sumerian. This is like the first creation story from ancient zumer the cradle of civilization.

1:56:34 Speaker 4: It's not the first creation story they want to yeah.

1:56:38 Speaker 2: Right right, but many they're taught in school is.

1:56:44 Speaker 4: Different seatings of humans comes with different origin stories, right, So if you have like the Ananachi and the manipulation of DNA or how they claim to have upgraded like the Homino. You know, there's a lot more history before all of that, you know, right me, Fall consciousness is very different than Postfall where the federations began to form and so on, and I mean they all have their own mythologies, their own kind of creation stories. But you know, Tamot and before Tamat and pre Fall consciousness and like the Plroma, the AONs you know Lyra and you know how it stepped into the Orion Wars when the Anak you were created to actually target uh those that you know, we're going to remain in an embodied form.

1:57:31 Speaker 4: You know, not every faction is like that, but you know, you're dealing with the Luciferian, You're dealing with the Anki Enlt. You're dealing with like either on Ankie side or end Little side. And it's like come on, you know, both pre fall go to the chrys Sophia, go to the original blueprint. There are different levels of these entities and energy similar to both the Emerald tablets how those you know, and then Alister Crowley comes on board with the whole thought energy. And it's not to say that everything about thought is or thought or however you say it, and everybody says it the same.

1:58:04 Speaker 4: It's all negative. But when you step down into lower density, and you know, when the Emerald Covenant, Emerald Order and all that you know be formed an alliance with the Anonachy, then all of a sudden, ooh, we're dealing with a completely different picture. So I guess what I'm trying to say, Yeah, Reptilians, I mean the Anonarchy basically commissioned the Reptilians. They image, Yeah, I mean they formed an alliance. Uh, it's just.

1:58:35 Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot maybe just.

1:58:38 Speaker 4: Kind of like and see what it triggers in them to find, you know, a resonance within themselves to kind of define all this. There's a lot of resources that I have that explain it, but it is that one hundred percent truth. I mean, I'm getting as close to it as I can with the with the people that have re minded me of what exists in my soul memory. But there's so much that doesn't resonate that has caused me to get to the bottom of things. Like a lot of people say TM out of maldec are the same. No, no, no, that never resonates.

1:59:13 Speaker 4: So I keep seeking, Right, you're aut a treat to your great grandfather's sign. Okay, maybe, but nope, something tells me to keep seeking, keep seeking, so I might not be You know, these are big questions to be able to answer and sort of articulate. It's like it used to be a lot easier because I did presentations on it, but my presentations have shifted gears.

1:59:32 Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you something real, like one last thing, because I think it is important and I forgot to ask it. Do you think guys like Corey Good were sent in to muddy the waters when it.

1:59:46 Speaker 3: Comes to.

1:59:49 Speaker 2: Things like the secret Space program? Because that is all in the UFO community, the secret Space program has become like a dirty word.

1:59:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the whole copywriting something like the secret Space program or uh and and big words that a lot of people have experienced that that's yeah, I'm like, that doesn't make any sense, or he wants to be in charge of all that. I mean, I I got to know him. I got to know him, and it seemed to be you know, him sharing his story just like a lot of people.

2:00:26 Speaker 3: Uh.

2:00:27 Speaker 4: And then it just started to get you know, really weird and and very much about you know, going after everybody or making agreements with people and then suing that. It's like, I wasn't enough in the inner circle to know exactly how that happened. Was he sent specifically, or was he infiltrated along the way? Was he replaced? Was he cloned? I mean, there are so many possibilities, But what matters most is seeing, like, all right, there's something really wrong here. Do we cast him nothing but hatred and negative energy, or do we pray for his higher self or his.

2:01:00 Speaker 3: Right?

2:01:00 Speaker 4: Because I think, you know, like I think certain people were sent. There are plants, but I feel that certain people were legit might have got an addicted to the power, might not have got an addiction to the power. They just got infiltrated, They got abducted, they got attacked, they got implanted, they got reprogrammed in a ritual. I mean, the scenarios are endless. The scenarios are endless. I never got to know him well enough. All I know that his work began to get very compromised and destructive as far as the way people felt very you know, attacked and then him kind of playing the victim.

2:01:47 Speaker 4: That's their experience. You know, him and I we we've kept a decent rapport. We stopped talking for a couple of years and then we got back in touch. And I just I just old love and forgiveness and I hold space for people's healing, and I just know that we're in a war and let's cut each other's slack and realize that people are used and weaponized. I think some very very important information. But when it starts to go sour, it starts to get weird, you know, pull the attention back on yourself and just pray for that person and distance yourself and and don't get hooked into the drama because that's what they would be using him to do.

2:02:28 Speaker 3: That's it.

2:02:29 Speaker 2: That That's one of the most that that was really well said. Really, uh, you know again, forgiveness is uh something that I think the world needs a little bit more of.

2:02:44 Speaker 4: R He's in pain. I mean, God only knows. He acted out of pain, and he acted out of trauma. You know, we're dealing with people that were tortured and abducted and used, you know, and we expect them to be on these pillars of you know, just guidance for humanity and helping with disclosure, they're going to fall into, you know, traps, and we need to step back and not put them on such a pedestal to begin with. And the thing is, you know, people that are fractured and and traumatized can sometimes get addicted to power because they've never felt love before, they've never gotten attention before, who knows, or they were infiltrated to create, divide and conquer.

2:03:19 Speaker 4: The point is, you know, just like David Wilcock's death, a lot of people act like they know, but do they really know, you know, So the best we can do is just to wish that soul a healing, a journey that helps them to be okay, to be at peace, to find themselves.

2:03:38 Speaker 3: To that's very well said.

2:03:41 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, I'm it's very well said right now.

2:03:43 Speaker 3: But no, no, no, that was actually really well said.

2:03:46 Speaker 2: That was it shows your it shows your like actually genuine because I think a lot of people, you know, have have taken that whole scenario and you know.

2:03:59 Speaker 3: Distance that him self. And it's and it's this weird.

2:04:02 Speaker 2: Dichotomy in the UFO community that if something like if if if something happens to a person, right if if if something comes out or you know, a situation like Corey Good, let's use this as just an example, they write you off immediately because they don't want to have any kinks in their armor. They're so afraid of their own credibility being attacked or challenged by association, and they get very defensive.

2:04:44 Speaker 3: And I think it's created this really weird echo.

2:04:47 Speaker 2: Chamber of of of of almost a gatekeeping effect as well in the UFO community. And and it's a sad thing to see. I'm not saying what Corey did was was right, or that any thing of that nature is you know, any of it's right, because again I don't know a really ton about it. But what I do know is the lasting impression it left. And it's burned relationships.

2:05:12 Speaker 4: Oh no, it's horrible, it's but you know, that's where more group conversations should come about. More like, Okay, if we're going to bring attention on it, let's let's kind of see where I mean. I think people gave their power weight toments. They got really addicted to like the intensity of all this hidden information coming to light. I feel people made him, you know, famous, Uh, and a scandal, whether yea or not. Yeah, and and you know, like like he has kids, and he has dealt with abductions, and he is being taken into these experiences.

2:05:52 Speaker 4: What if he was replaced and he was giving these memories and and then they could easily flip a switch and say we'll say it never happened, or just keep suing people. I mean, you know, why don't we take the bits that we can confirm because of other testimonies, because of galactic researchers, because of experiencers, because of people like Lis Renee, you know, to help us to figure this out and then to see, oh, okay, more than likely this is what's happening. How can we help him instead of being like my life is ruined because he might not be for real or he's you know, going after people, Well who is he going after?

2:06:27 Speaker 4: He's going after you know, Gaya and and you know what did they do.

2:06:34 Speaker 2: Because a lot of people besides Gia Guya is very very I find it almost I mean, I don't even know.

2:06:43 Speaker 3: I don't maybe I shouldn't.

2:06:45 Speaker 4: I'm not even recording this correctly. I'm just saying he went after a lot of people that I really care about and like, and that's when I stepped away and I said, Corey, what are you doing? You know, if you're waking up from three D stuff, why are you working through the three D to get some kind of justice because of your story? Because you want to copyright things. It's like, it all was a mess, and it seemed like he was being used as a vessel for a dark agenda to express itself through to you know.

2:07:09 Speaker 4: And that's where I really felt like and I really wanted this. Let's all come together, Let's become more of a team. Let's have more discussion where we appeal to him and say, yo, let's let's make this public, like a public forum where everybody has a voice, and we passed the talking stick. What is going on here in order for us to understand how he's being played in use in how it's impacting people. Can we figure this out amongst ourselves and keep the courts.

2:07:37 Speaker 2: Out of it?

2:07:38 Speaker 3: At least?

2:07:39 Speaker 4: Why? At least can we try? But I ended up getting like pulled into David's resignation letter, and I, you know, and and I was being like messed with, and I said, I'm not gonna have anything to do with it. And unfortunately a post that I did was left up for long enough for Reddit to take it. And then I was yeah, because I was being convinced, like it's Luciferian, it's harming you know, all these employees, because the gem Drops and Corey and Patty were saying, you got to post this, and oh, it's such a long story, so instead we get into it things.

2:08:12 Speaker 4: Then I was just thrown into the mix of being part of the problem and it's just devastating. So I don't want to be a victim to it, but I know my heart was in the right place, and I was I was like paniced that people are literally being harmed? Was that made up? I mean, the thing is I wish I had the time to be an investigative research or detective. That would be my career if I wasn't doing what I'm doing, because I you know, I get into all that kind of stuff, right. You just don't have enough time in the day to be able to solve these things.

2:08:39 Speaker 4: So how can we mitigate the damage? You know? Unfortunately, you know, if David's resignation letter was legit, then that needed to be called out. If it's not legit, then then what do they have to hide? What do they have to worry about? You know, people accuse me of stuff all the time. The reason it doesn't bother me is because it's not true. Truth doesn't need believers and followers. It's like, I'm solid. It's like, take just the truth, right, So if they get all bent out of the shape because of what was in that letter, if it's not true, then just shine your truth and and and show your true self and and don't even worry about it.

2:09:14 Speaker 4: The fact that it erupted in all this, Maybe it was true.

2:09:17 Speaker 3: I don't know, right.

2:09:19 Speaker 4: All I'm saying is truth is solid. It doesn't need followers and believers. When things spiral into so much chaoticness and so much dysfunction and so much war, then maybe both sides of something to hide. I don't know. It's just truth is a beacon that corrects, that brings people together. That is all about love and that's where I stand. And if you can't see that, that's not.

2:09:40 Speaker 2: And division, division and division and infighting is indicative of like psychological operation against you.

2:09:53 Speaker 4: But if you stand in love, and you stand in your truth, what do you possibly have to hide? You will be a force of correction, of healing, of reconciling, of airing out whatever for people to see so they know who you truly are, and you shouldn't be afraid of it, no matter what your abuse, no matter what the thought is, no matter who's being targeted. That's what wins in the end. That's why the deep state is crumbling because they cannot show that all that the victims are saying isn't true. They know it's true.

2:10:20 Speaker 4: So whatever is happening in the disclosure community, what is going to rise out of it like a phoenix are the true truthers. And it's not truth because we have every piece of information and correct. It's truth because we're authentic. It's truth because we're in integrity, because that is the truth of God, because God is love, God is truth. So you know, we're doing our best with the information. But the truth is the truth, or the true essence of it is that we will self correct, we will forgive, we will live in integrity, and we'll do our best to walk through this war, in this battle and rise above and heal all fractures, wounds, targeting and falling into pits and being vulnerable.

2:10:59 Speaker 4: We have each other's back we're a team. I feel that with you, I feel that with a lot of people, and whatever cannot step up to the plate will fall away, And whatever falls away, there's still a set of that soul that can emerge out of it. What falls away is the programming, the false personas, the the agendas that people are running through false personas. That is what will crumble. But that soul still has a chance to rise and say, oh my gosh, I was being used. I don't even remember any of that. That wasn't me.

2:11:30 Speaker 4: Okay, we love you, come home.

2:11:32 Speaker 3: Like right, right right?

2:11:34 Speaker 4: You be here for the children because they're victims, but they become handlers, they become perpetrators in the Illuminati, right, So God only knows a lot of that is also in the secret space programs. So we need to rescue those souls by understanding what they're up against. Yes, they target us, they weaponize them to target us. Let's not be victims to them. Let's understand what they're dealing with and help those souls return home and clean up the wreckage of whatever books were written that or whatever beliefs we held, whatever support we thought we should have for them, and maybe that we were wronged, all right?

2:12:11 Speaker 4: You know, well, the whole system is waking up to the careers that they had and the people that they trusted that were the deceivers this whole time. It's hit the disclosure community too. This is the thing with humanity right now. We have to rehabilitate people are crushed by how they invested in something that ended up deceiving them or the whole of humanity is facing this right now. So let's rather and heal this and be like, Okay, I was duped, Okay, I was hurt, Okay I was used, Okay I was targeted.

2:12:40 Speaker 3: All right, now let's heal, let's and move on and.

2:12:44 Speaker 4: Move on, because we've all been hit to a certain degree, you know, and if it wasn't that it was lovers, partners, parents, Yeah, I mean none of us are unscathed.

2:12:55 Speaker 2: No, no, no, you're exactly right. And this has been so so so amazing. We we definitely went over time as well. So where can people continue to find your work? Your book?

2:13:10 Speaker 3: I'll put all the description.

2:13:12 Speaker 2: Below for the video and the podcast as well, but you know, where can people continue to hear your voice?

2:13:19 Speaker 4: Well? Thank you so much, And I don't know if you need to edit anything out because I know there's just a lot of run ons with me.

2:13:25 Speaker 3: And no, no, no.

2:13:28 Speaker 4: Anyway, whatever you choose to, you know, keep my website's cosmic Gaia dot org and most of my social media links are on the homepage. And my book is Awakening the Truth Frequency you can find that on Amazon, but probably better CCC Publishing dot com. That's CCC Publishing dot com. That goes directly to Brad Olsen's website. Who's my publisher. You'll see a bunch of other really good books there. And yeah, I'm on YouTube, Laura Eisenhower. Find me on social media. Sub Sex is a really great place to find my articles.

2:14:03 Speaker 4: I really get into these subjects. So if you're like, oh my god, that was like talking to you fast, way over my head. You can really take your time with the things that I've written. And also, of course if you you know, find my book. And yeah, I do a lot of events and retreats, uh and I do astrological readings, and I work with helping you to move out of inversions and the weaponization of it all to uh really embody the highest potential of of who you are and and and just help you work through whatever to you know, get there.

2:14:38 Speaker 4: But really you're doing the work. I'm just reminding you of yourself.

2:14:41 Speaker 2: So of course, of course, and yeah, you are tremendous. I don't think I'm gonna have to cut too much at all. I like these raw kind of back and forth discussions every once in a while. It's like it reminds me, you know that, It just it allows me to tap into something right and and kind of go try to go tip for t And I truly believe that the people you surround yourself with they make or break you. And again, if you're surrounding yourself with energy vampires and people that just want to continue to either see you stagnate or you know, stoop to their level,

2:15:28 Speaker 2: you know you're not gonna excel. But if you're surrounding yourself with people that are constantly challenging you to be the better and best version of yourself, then then you're going to succeed. And it's just simple, right. So you are a great version of that, Laura. You have such a an aura about you. And again I would love to have you back and we'll have a discussion, so let's help facilitate that.

2:15:54 Speaker 4: Thank you so much amazing. It's so wonderful to talk with you. I've really enjoyed getting to know you, and I look for getting to know you more and just hearing more about you, know your path and what you've discovered. And so I'm glad it was conversational, but I uh, I still want to you know, get to know you more. So thank you, really it has been great, And thank you audience for checking out.

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