DISCLOSED! The "Age Of Disclosure" LANDS Release| Alex Jones & Legal Issues

0:25 Speaker 1: A welcome back everyone too disclosed. My name's Ty Roberts, and I am the host creator of the UH program, and my lovely co host, Kyrile Lindsay will be right in. I just wanted to start off by saying thank you to everyone. UH. It's been really really fun to get back in the groove of doing these weekly live shows and and getting engaged with the audience in addition to putting out other content UH like the podcast, which Kry is great with editing. We have Peter Robbins coming up tomorrow, so it's already out on the audio feeds, and just an absolutely incredible conversation, absolutely incredible editing job by Cary.

1:12 Speaker 1: And today we're gonna be diving into a few topics. UFO stuff was a little dry, I guess this week. So I've kind of talked to carry you and back and forth and you know what should we talking to this about and discuss about? And I was like, you know what, let's just kind of kick back and really have an open discussion before we get into it. Make sure to like, share and subscribe if you want to help support the show, obviously, you can hit join on YouTube. I think it's even coming to iOS devices finally, so you can join on Apple or click the link in the description below and become a member.

1:48 Speaker 1: You can also send a superchat during the show, especially shows like tonight where we're kind of be you know, the audience is definitely the third member of the hosting platform. Send your questions, let's engage each other, and uh yeah, let's have some fun with that being said. Cary, welcome, Hi, Hi.

2:12 Speaker 2: My name is Cary. I am the cohurst of this show.

2:15 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, hell, last week we ended the show and we started talking, well, so we we had an idea of talking about Dylan Borland. I hadn't had a chance to kind of get in this testimony that the episode did get in fact, a little heated towards the end with our differences and opinions. But again, I just want to start this show by saying that that is kind of the point.

2:44 Speaker 2: So I mean, sorry, you keep good.

2:51 Speaker 1: Finishing off. I do want to let you kind of you said you wanted to to talk about that. Aside from the actual case, I think we've made it pretty clear on different sides of this. What was it that you wanted to mention?

3:05 Speaker 2: It's just coffee debate. I had a lot of coffee, so it got a little intense. My aim is not to be that intense, like we can like so like I watched it back and was just like too much coffee. Well, so, whilst it was fun and is the point to have those kind of debates and it's fun to disagree and kind of poke and prod and push each other, I don't I never want to give the audience the impression that I'm a dick, So like I just want to like ease off the gas there a little.

3:35 Speaker 1: So I think I think I had a lot of fun. I had a lot of fun.

3:40 Speaker 2: I had a lot of fun. Just like you said, the audience is a third member in this conversation, so.

3:44 Speaker 1: I want to Ironically, I was actually watching the first half of the latest episode of Weaponized, and in the beginning of the episode they start talking about that the latest guy who had this the sighting an egg lit and Jeremy was bringing up maps and talking about angles of observation. I found it quite funny and ironic that all of a sudden they were looking at like basis of the maps of the base on Google and looking at angle of observation and where he saw it at Eglin and you know, we had just had that debate about Borland, so I don't know.

4:24 Speaker 2: What of what magic powers time I knew everything.

4:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I want to start today's show. Also, Well, obviously thanks for getting that out of the way, and listen. I think that's the point is, you know, we come from very different backgrounds, We come from very different places and corners of the community, and I think naturally that's that's kind of what the draw might be, is getting that angle of observation from your side, from mind side, and you know, displaying that for everyone to ask the right questions, to spoon feed them any answers.

5:03 Speaker 1: But speaking of I don't speaking of confusion. There's a documentary that was shown in March at south By Southwest all you know, every every person that went, all the big content creators. Rogan actually he's really the only one I can think of right now. Rogan. Uh, he's been talking about this Age of Disclosure documentary.

5:30 Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, rings about I could.

5:33 Speaker 1: Be wrong that that. Well, he does Tenfoil Hat and Friends with Corbels. Now Andy's a comedian, so that would make sense as well.

5:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, I cut you off. You were talking about Age of disclosure.

5:45 Speaker 1: Sorry, I know what does so as filmmakers and as people who make content, I think there's a confusion among the UFO community on how phil are distributed and how they I mean, you can just debut it on YouTube, but there especially this marketing itself as having thirty four you know, former government officials, military folk, you know this, Dan Farrah, you know, having worked with Spielberg and taking on this documentary, he wants to sell this for the highest price. And I don't think people really understand that this is not disclosure does have a price.

6:34 Speaker 1: Unfortunately when it comes to be you know, the money that was put into it to produce it. Now you have to satisfy the producers who bought in originally to fund it, and you have to make that money back plus some. So, I mean a lot of people are talking about where it might go. Is that it's going to have a limited run in theaters. What's your take on age of disclosure. I want to watch the trailer. I haven't seen it in I haven't seen the newest one. But what's your take on the whole process.

7:04 Speaker 2: I think it's been a bit long winded. I do too, and the fact that so I don't know. I'm not sure how much interest there was after south By Southwest. You know, it's not something that we're like, it's not like we're anybody's on the inside of the you know, these meetings and development and everything. So I don't know, it's it's just taken a very long time. I will say this though, This new trailer doesn't have James Crapper in it, which is that's always a plus side in my boat. You know why we'll see why is that because he's terrible?

7:41 Speaker 2: I know, I know he's terrible.

7:44 Speaker 1: You said, you said, you pulled up the trailer. I want to because I want to watch it and I want to talk a little bit about age of disclosure. But I think there's there is that misconception about how things are distributed. So again, there's a process to on the film. Uh and you fund So it's this film has been funded, it's been produced, it's been edited, like, it's paid for. Now what they're looking for is the company that's going to distribute it to the masses. And I think it's either going to go Apple or Amazon.

8:20 Speaker 1: People have thought Netflix. I don't think it's Netflix. I don't think Netflix is has them. Has that ready?

8:28 Speaker 2: Have you not seen what's been going on today? No? Okay, so we have a release date and an exclusivity with Prime.

8:38 Speaker 1: Oh oh shit.

8:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they've announced the exclusivity window with Prime, which it kind of sounded whoey. But then there's someone on the executive level that Amazon made a statement, not confirming it, but saying how excited there is corporate talk. So that's saying how excited they are to ring the film and broaden their platform whatever. Well it's not, that's not like glowing endorsement, but it's it's some kind of confirmation from the executive level of Prime Video. Okay, this that there is an exclusivity deal.

9:15 Speaker 1: Do you think that was the smartest move.

9:19 Speaker 2: I think it was the only move they could get. And you know it's been this long and he so Dan Farrer created his own distribution company in order to be able to get this onto Prime because you have to do it. So it was like two weeks ago, three weeks ago he made his own publishing company called Relentless Releasing Now and now there's an exclusivity deal with Amazon, which I think he made the company probably to be able to get this deal.

9:51 Speaker 1: That's the thing. So I actually, really I was more expecting it to go Apple. I swear I was. I was expecting because I figured it was going to have a big price tag on it. But the longer it waited, the more likely that again that price goes down, because I mean it is if they win any longer, like Stratton's book's gonna come out like the big peal of this is. You know, Stratton's in it, and he makes them you know, even in the trailer there was a pretty wild claim from Stratton himself saying, you know, I've seen the bodies now you can from what you know, from what I know, he doesn't really go far past that.

10:28 Speaker 1: And you know, from what Rogan has said and other content creators that were there at By Southwest, this movie isn't disclosure. But then you got guys like you know, Tim Burchett who says like, get Ready America, And I can't tell if that's him actually saying and endorsing like this is going to change the game, or if it just I'm in this. Get Ready.

10:50 Speaker 2: It's all the work, brother, This is just pare It's literally or just Pare. Well also like yes, excited, they want you to be excited, but they're going to say that anyway, So it's not really like it's an exciting statement to say, buckle up America.

11:08 Speaker 1: Okay, but interesting, interesting, Well I didn't.

11:13 Speaker 2: I do want to. I do want to. I want to comment highlight a comment from an old, an old Totty Wabs show fan called Enzo. I actually know Enzo in real life. He's saying that something I missed out, there's a limited theatrical release that is going is gonna enable it to be Oscar called it.

11:31 Speaker 1: That's what I was. Yeah, that's in my head. I'm going they want at least a limited release.

11:40 Speaker 2: Like twenty one days in three cities.

11:42 Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, that's why I said I don't think Netflix would be a contender because I don't think Netflix likes that model. Because you know, that's not true.

11:52 Speaker 2: I actually saw recently that they are. They're actually for the first time allowing a film to do like an exclusive theatrical run before coming to Netflix.

12:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, for the first time, you know what I mean.

12:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's at least of being open to it. It's not like it's outside the.

12:08 Speaker 1: I believe Amazon's done it multiple times, you know, so they're kind of like that they understand the reasoning why a filmmaker want to do it, but also having the east because like, at least I don't know many people who don't have a Prime membership, like whether it's shopping just for shopping and they have a Prime membership, Like everyone has Prime at least like a lot of people, a lot of people I know, and a lot of people in the market that I know have Amazon Prime, Like it's it's a thing that everybody has, especially after the pandemic days.

12:43 Speaker 1: So I thought it would be Like I said, I thought Amazon and Apple I didn't know is actually confirmed? So what what's it?

12:52 Speaker 3: Was?

12:52 Speaker 1: The date November twenty four.

12:53 Speaker 2: So I have I have the article? Should just pull up the article? Yeah, okay, do share this.

13:00 Speaker 1: Time said it's a bold move. Con it is. It is a bold view, So get the spanner out of the way.

13:11 Speaker 2: The Age of Disclosure, an explosive documentary that makes a strong case for the existence of non human intelligent life unidentified the anomalous phenomena of visiting our planet, will get a robust Oscar qualifying run and worldwide release on Prime video.

13:26 Speaker 2: Film directed by Dan Farrer, will be released theatrically on November twenty first in York City, not New York City and York City, Los Angeles, Washington, DC, and stream the same day on Prime video. And it's also gonna I guess, like what was it? Did you say? How many how many days? How many days does the film have to be in theaters to qualify someone in the chat find I think it.

13:54 Speaker 1: Would have to be at least at least a fourteen to twenty one day run.

13:59 Speaker 2: I'd say twenty one days.

14:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds right, That sounds about right.

14:04 Speaker 2: She takes them up to Christmas, and then they would cinemas are closed over Christmas anyway?

14:09 Speaker 1: Not here? Oh yeah, it's like you guys, to.

14:13 Speaker 2: Be fair, they just closed. They just close the cinemas here. So like, seriously, I I don't have a local cinema anymore. I can't go to the films. That's insane, sucks. Like the closest one is like a thirty five minute ride.

14:29 Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting, well you know here, like it's like a kind of it's funny you say, because it's like a tradition for my family we go to the movies.

14:37 Speaker 2: On Christmas, Like because I mean they probably are they probably are just I just don't think of them as open.

14:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, Star Wars like always since the Force the way bar Wars has been doing Christmas releases. But yeah, so pull that the pull that trailer wrap. Let's let's give it a whole watch of Rooty.

14:55 Speaker 2: Yes Shore this time instead. All right? Are we are we? So? Are we fair using this?

15:04 Speaker 4: Yeah?

15:04 Speaker 2: So we have to stop every twenty seconds and talk about.

15:06 Speaker 1: No, no, no go if they if they tag it, I'll I'll clip it out.

15:12 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we'll lose the we'll lose the life chot or whatever. All right, I'm hitting play.

15:22 Speaker 5: I've had repeated instances of something operating in the airspace over restricted nuclear facilities, and it's not ours.

15:29 Speaker 2: These are other worldly things that are performing maneuvers that haven't been seen.

15:38 Speaker 1: Save videos.

15:38 Speaker 2: I have seen it in my own eyes, non human craft and non human beings. This is so secret.

15:47 Speaker 3: There have been very few people in our entire government that have been allowed or provided access to it.

15:54 Speaker 5: Even presidents have been operating on a need to know basis. But that begins to ramp out of control.

16:01 Speaker 1: It's not acceptable to have secret parts of government that no one ever sees. People have been hurt protecting and hiding this information.

16:09 Speaker 5: Some people claim it would cost them their lives, and they spoke out about these things.

16:14 Speaker 3: You had information being locked away that could change the trajectory for species.

16:34 Speaker 5: This is the biggest discovery in human history.

16:42 Speaker 1: How many takes for that one? All right, dude, I mean, I'll say this, the cinematography in it, the editing style, the kind of official nature that it that it does have. Yeah, I mean, it's it. It feels like it's going to be monumental. However, I just I don't think that that any film. I mean, here's what Here's the scenario I could see, right, is this movie debuts and then so it's through word of mouth, the buzz gets like deafening. General public interest is at a fever pitch. Right, Atlas is coming in.

17:42 Speaker 1: People are talking about Atlas a velobes on every news channel that will literally air him. You know, everyone's talking Aliens. Spielberg's making this new disclosure uh movie, which I've heard I can't say, you know, I'm not afraid to say it. I've heard from my own back channels in Hollywood that the new Spielberg movie is going to be set in the same world as Close Encounters of the Third kind. It's going to be called Disclosure, set in the world after the moment and after the events of Close Encounters that the third All right, so it's going to be a post disclosure film.

18:23 Speaker 1: Does that? Does that make sense?

18:26 Speaker 2: That's actually I feel like that's like the only place that Spielberg could really take it. He's done the he's done the Benevolent One, he's done et he's done Word of the World. It's like, yep, So that makes a lot of sense with actually with reports I heard where there was a nun who's in who you know, lives in a church or a monastery. Spielberg's film was filming there. They were filming, so obviously it's going to touch on religion and stuff. So that actually does tie in to that.

18:56 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, So I wouldn't be surprised if that because now when that got there's a bunch of headlines for it. When it got it came out and like Luna was sharing it and was like, you know, Disclosures coming, and you know she's you just got to ask yourself like why why? And I think there is this notion that you know, the UFO world is kind of always known or at least talked about that. Lawmakers and policymakers and you know, people in the government and military. You know, they do talk to Hollywood and they do exchange information, and you know, by virtuous of association, some of that stuff ends up in the films you go see, and you know, whether you want to call that propaganda or you know, slipping in the truth.

19:50 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of sci fi I think has been riddled with these.

19:53 Speaker 2: Little sci fi I mean zero Doc thirty had a lot of details of the assassinate Osama bin Laden which when not public, and that movie got Catherine Bigelow in quite a bit of trouble, Yeah, because she included so much like real world detail that Yeah, watching it, you wouldn't know that that's actually, like really what happened, but it is. And it pissed the people off who were supposed to keep that secret.

20:19 Speaker 1: So, yeah, did that. That woman that it's based on, they still don't know who it is. They still no one knows who that woman is.

20:28 Speaker 2: And it's not one woman, it's it's a there's a documentary. There's a group of there was a group of women in size.

20:36 Speaker 1: Like a group of analysts that just a group of group of analysts woke up every day and literally woke up every day and breathed and lived like uh.

20:49 Speaker 2: Like Jessicatin's character is an amalgamation of these analysts. It's it's like an analogue. It's just a compilation of different different storybits put into a character. Because obviously you can't have if you want to center the movie around someone, you can't have it be an entire team because then it gets too big in scope with everything else to do. So they slim it down to just one character who's like the Mary Sue of the intelligence world, who can oh, I know where our summer is? And Jason Clark's like, okay.

21:22 Speaker 1: You know, I'll say I'll say this. I just stuttered like a real hard Uh. You know if if if interviews that I conduct here in studio aren't always going to be UFO like disclosure base, I do want to do some like military and for like, uh, if anyone watches Julian Dorry or like Danny Jones, they have a lot of military like x C I A x x FBI, I do want to have some of those conversations. And because I do find spycraft very interesting thing. So it's it's something I do want to branch out into. But it's also an easy way to kind of go back into disclosure because UFOs is such UFOs and UAPs and you know, arguably even the paranormal and consciousness more consciousness based stuff.

22:17 Speaker 1: You know, those people tend to be interested in that kind of topic. So I think it's an easy bridge to gap. And I bring it up because this movie, this Age of Disclosure movie is touting that has thirty four you know, a military government officials now scrap off the top, as gonna say, scrape off the top like Birchet, you know, probably Luna Mace and then Elizondo, Jase Stratt, like everyone that we see in the trailer scratch them out. That still leaves a good amount of people that we don't know, like.

22:55 Speaker 2: At least twenty people, right, I mean, so who could that conceive it?

23:02 Speaker 1: My question to the audience and to you, Sidy. You know, the scenario I pitched is you know, it's spreading word of mouth, you know, combining with good timing. Maybe the timing was I don't know, essential uh, you know, I don't know, maybe that was do you think you can move the needle.

23:26 Speaker 2: Here's my counter question, which we'll answer your question. Do you think that if the movie was immediately picked up itself by Southwest, the UAP Disclosure Act would have passed?

23:43 Speaker 2: Because releasing it after it's failed for the fourth time just seems kind of like.

23:47 Speaker 1: That's a good ques, you know what, that's a good question. That is a good question. Whow Okay, don't don't want to go there. I don't know. I don't I don't know. I'd hate to suggests. I I'd hate to suggest anything or get anyone upset or mad in this context because I think the UAP Disclosure Act it's interesting when you start looking at it, and you start looking at you know, who publicly is willing to talk about it, but then when it really comes time to you know, kind of slam the gavel down, if you will, who don't do it?

24:31 Speaker 1: They're also the same people that, like when the Epstein vote goes out, right, like only only two Republicans voted to release the Epstein files.

24:44 Speaker 2: As a non American, what the is going on? What you guys? Okay, do you need a hug? Like?

24:52 Speaker 1: What's going on? Is going on?

24:55 Speaker 2: Like you guys, you look, you look schizophrenic as a nation when when you do this ship and we when the whole world's kind of watching you, guys look insane, and it's like that would never happen here. Yeah, well okay, maybe in the UK it probably would happen, but like other civilized societies much matter, I think it would happen.

25:16 Speaker 1: But yeah, it does it. But that's why. And you know what, this is a little bit of a segue here. I saw that you thought and and listen, it's cool, Like just remember, it's cool. Right, We're good. I've found a you know, about to go in on you. That's what I've That's what that means. So you called out a guy that I have been really fascinated with lately, Yes, and I have been. I think he's the only now, given whatever you're about to say, given whatever intro, you know, whatever.

25:56 Speaker 2: I'm trying to stay come.

25:59 Speaker 1: Whatever company he's kept in the past, I think Jason does have a very good kind of foundational look at the UFO phenomena. He really and this is something I've been saying, and I guess it's maybe the reason I like him so much right now is because when listening to him, He's bringing up a lot of points that have raised for so long, like that, what are the chances that the guys that are running or the people that I should say the deep state quote unquote, that are running these Epstein's and Ditties of the world are what are the chances that are those aren't the same people that are keeping this technology secret and hiding it from the public and you know, going around and making sure that certain politicians vote in certain ways.

26:50 Speaker 1: Right. UAPDA does in fact come up Why is the Ohio congressman the biggest challenge when it comes to passing anything with the uap related Because because, yes, because of private aerospace and the ability for lobbying campaigns and all these donors to basically influence like the the whole fucking system is broken. It's so broken. And Georgiohnny's bringing up a lot of good points about why, Like, listen, you know, I think these are the same people, and he's not afraid to go in those dark corners and am I saying everyone's perfect?

27:30 Speaker 1: No, far from it, But he raises a very valid point about how a lot of these early like the Adamskis and how they really had cia handlers, and why have we been fed this Nordics and you know archetypal alien grays like angel looking beings, and then what you would considered to be a demon looking being, something that has no soul? Right that that that's.

27:59 Speaker 2: The biggest I think I answer that question.

28:03 Speaker 1: But you see what I'm going like, Georgiohnny is talking about a lot of things that I've been asking about, like why did we shed our fur only need to need pelts in the winter. Why is our biological clock more tuned to Mars than it is to Earth?

28:19 Speaker 2: Why are we the oil We're so our biological clocks are not in tune with the Earth? Are and chowne with Mars?

28:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, our actual biological clock is more attuned to the Martian day than it is to the Earth.

28:36 Speaker 2: What qualitative data are people using to make that?

28:41 Speaker 1: It's that compounded with many other things, like the fact that we think, you know, we could be planet hopping and we find the chemical the zion one the big scar across Mars, Like there's a we we could have been of you know, not of Earth originally, but of Mars, and we'd planted hopped here after some sort of cataclysm. So he's kind of drawing lines and he is making some assumptions and speculation, but he makes it clear when he's speculating. Okay, why was that? Why were the Nazis so obsessed with the Aryan race?

29:23 Speaker 1: The white blonde haired person? Why is why? Why is Epstein? Why is it that they were interested in like Julane Maxwell, all of her handlers, like her boys that she would keep. They were all of Swedish descent, and like there's one of them that talks about it about how he would shower and Glene Mack like he would shower in the in the house and like, you know how your hair goes into the drain, Like his hair would be missing from the drain when he got home, and you, like you start asking these questions.

29:55 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that might be very very I just might have dropped so much.

30:02 Speaker 2: But where do I even start with that?

30:08 Speaker 1: All right, well, let's rock it back to starting with Georgianni just in general.

30:13 Speaker 2: Okay, just for context, So I have you know, I have to go through the context of why you're you're you're putting to georgiourney to me because of what I said, I pointed out correctly that about eight years ago, he worked with Richard Spencer, the Neo NATI, to try and take over and announce ownership of the alt right, which he then since says he walked away and it was a big mistake. I think it backfired pr wise. I think that's what happened, honestly. And then I had a couple of years ago I looked into him and I read he's got like this manifesto called Prometheism, which is just it wouldn't be out of place on Guya dot com, just.

30:57 Speaker 1: Saying, Okay, I think that's fair. That's fair.

31:00 Speaker 2: So my my main problem though, is the creeping fascism people like that you've got. You've got to keep an eye on them and check them.

31:09 Speaker 1: But he's I see, I don't understand where you're coming from on this because he's on these shows talking and bringing it to light that we are being fed this this.

31:24 Speaker 2: I mean, honest, I don't listen to shows because he worked with Richard Spencer, the Neo Nazi, Like this automatic I'm not clicking that video because I know that that guy worked with the Neo Nazi, Like why would why would I do that?

31:39 Speaker 1: I will say this, it was very interesting. In his most recent appearance on Jesse Michaels that the entire No, I don't know whose choice this was, who's set design this was inspired by I'm assuming it was set up by Jesse and his team, But it was like all white and like gave really like a weird heavy vibe. Like there was this like carpet that was only there for camera depth that you could tell, but it was also white on the ta. Now I'm not sure if it was just like I said said, no, this was a very new looking like not not the regular.

32:16 Speaker 2: Jesse Michael house.

32:20 Speaker 1: There's no way, dude, go look at the video. It's it is odd that it's filmed that way. But again I don't think that's Georgiohnny himself making that decision because it's for American Alchemy and Jesse Michaels. It was just weird. It was hard to watch because it's just constant whiteness. Like the whole background, there's no nothing, no thing, literally it's just white. It looks like that movie that that like remember when in the in the Matrix when like the guns are about to come, like that white emptiness, And that's what it felt like.

32:53 Speaker 1: But Georgiohnny, I think it is. I think, you know, if he would, if he agrees, like I, I'm going to bring him to the studio. I want to talk to him. I don't think.

33:05 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he should be canceled. My point was, I don't I mean, I don't watch this stuff, but I haven't seen anybody else talking about it, so I assume it hasn't been brought up. No, I don't see anybody checking him on this, Like he's talking all of this subject all the subjects he talks about, these are all things that have come from this ideology called Prometheism that he carries. So it's like interrogating the ideas without looking at the underlying like ideology and philosophy there.

33:35 Speaker 2: That's one level, but there's also unless someone can it can time code and send it to me because I don't have time to sit and watch eight episodes or whatever. I don't think. I don't think anybody's checked him and gone, hey, like eight years ago, you were literally trying to take over the right, So like, what's going on, buddy, Okay, that's all I want. I'm not saying, like, cancel him and talk to him or anything like that. But I think he should be interrogated on this stuff.

34:04 Speaker 1: And can't use that word. Though you cannot use that.

34:07 Speaker 2: You can interrogate. I interrogate and interrogate ideas, interrogating events that happened. All right, I see, I don't mean. I don't mean it in like the I think that there is a negative connotation or outcome to it, but I'm interrogating the idea of that. It's it's it's an English way of saying.

34:27 Speaker 1: Okay, well, okay here when you say interrogate, I I want.

34:33 Speaker 2: To be clear. I'm not saying like he has done anything wrong or.

34:36 Speaker 1: Okay, so you know, anything like that. But you know, given that, I think there are many, many, many individuals in the UFO community that you could arguably pull up something not similar but like.

34:56 Speaker 2: Not as egregious. But I mean, yeah, and I think a lot of those people. I wouldn't consider myself like a leftist.

35:05 Speaker 1: But I don't even see the connection that you're like, I don't.

35:10 Speaker 2: There is a lot of connections between the fascist right and euthology. There's a lot of linkage through the New Age world and like the real society and oh, Germany had secret space programs, and they're making diaglogue, you know, all mythology that came from the seventies from neo Nazi groups.

35:33 Speaker 1: I see where you're going with this.

35:34 Speaker 2: So if you actually trace the history of a lot of this stuff back, a lot of this kind German ideal ideation of trying to make the Nazis look like they were more successful, it's almost like it's a response to the American exceptionalism that drove this whiteness of the Nordics and all of this, all of these alien races that came back in the fifties when America was a very white Christian nation in a Cold War looking to have a marketing age over its enemy. That's why they had spacemen in flying sauces and all of this stuff.

36:05 Speaker 1: Valiant Thor, right.

36:07 Speaker 2: Valiant Thor is literally like a comic, a real life comic book character to promote American exceptionalism and white America essentially.

36:18 Speaker 1: But then they're like, okay, but by the same token,

36:24 Speaker 1: people like why why are we not asking questions? Who's the guy that built the the what?

36:34 Speaker 2: Echo is making a very very good point. It's called the new age to alt right pipeline and there's books about it. Oh well, so if you get stuck, if you get stuck in to the New Age world like Gia, Gia is a massive pipeline to being exposed to like eugenics, stuff like the ancient Aliens, anunarchy, all of this stuff is like white centric.

36:59 Speaker 1: What are you talking The Annaki comes from the Sumerian tablets. That's like from the cradle of civilization. They're clearly not white, right, that's clearly I don't see how that gets thrown in there.

37:16 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe not white.

37:17 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I think that's like.

37:20 Speaker 2: The Nordics, like the My main point here is the early alien races, especially the ones that you brought up as Jason bringing up these questions. I've thought about those questions too, and it's it's not like a profound thing, it's it was literally just white Christian America. As Christianity was waning, sci fi went on the rise because people weren't afraid to kind of go outside tenets of Christianity to find entertainment and whatever. And at the same time, you're in the Cold War of Russia that wants to promote American exceptionalism through marketing.

37:50 Speaker 2: And at the same time, you've got sci fi going everywhere, so you mix and you're right, you mix all those in the part and you get white savior aliens. That's why I keep saying they're very white, because they are. They're white. It's almost the same as like the Aryan genetic thing. But that's where that's where the linkage comes in. Is because the the the whiteness of like the Nordics. That's why, like the neo Nazi movement has kind of stolen the idea of like the Galactic Federation and the Nordics and and and from the New Age because it's similar.

38:30 Speaker 2: Look if you get.

38:31 Speaker 1: What I mean, Okay, Okay, here's my thing. Okay, what if what like what if it were like why were the Nazis so fixated on blonde haired, blue eyed people and that that you know, we that build and type of person like you know.

38:56 Speaker 2: Why type of person was not Jewish.

39:01 Speaker 1: Specifically, like why why would you want to eliminate? Like I feel like what the at least what I'm getting out of what Georgianni is saying right is is he's he's pointing at it and saying, why are these why do they want like, why is that seemingly what we've been told for so long is that there's these angeled Like he's he's pointing it out. I can't see why he would be promoting it at Like he seems to be the one that at least now is calling it.

39:30 Speaker 2: Out because Okay, that's that's good.

39:33 Speaker 1: He's he's brought that to my attention, right, that this whole the idea that there's the two races and that one is the other, one is angels, one is demons, and I mean, I.

39:43 Speaker 2: Mean I haven't heard it described like that. I heard the New Age has a lot more races going on, right, It's not just this good bad dichotomy's.

39:53 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.

39:54 Speaker 2: This is where the whole idea of the Galactic Federation comes from, is that there's there's like twenty seven different species and they're all there's a little different law and whatever going on, none of it.

40:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, I I that I didn't want to spin that out, but I do think there are like a lot of things that that that do fascinate me in the terms of like what's that, what's that thing that I went to it? Oh God, I can't even remember it was built at like in near Palm Springs, it was in it's in California. It's that it was supposed to be a UFO integer chon, thank you who it was.

40:33 Speaker 2: It wasn't a U. It was a healing that's right, right, right right.

40:37 Speaker 1: But that guy literally was a Nazi sympathizer. Like he he had his didn't he have like people his family living under a rock of of a known Nazi sympathizer who ended up blowing himself up and blew his brains all over the wall of this wint Stones ask house that he had his family in. And then George Fantasal buys the place, puts his family in there and starts building the integratron, and then him and a Dabsky are are They both seemingly have these intelligence connections, one having a CIA handler and the other, you know, being some sort of like you know.

41:21 Speaker 2: You're interesting. Giant Rock wasn't airport like you need like back then like now, it's just it's just a plot of land. You can drive up and see the rock that you lived on. But back then so ridiculous where they held the the the UFO, I mean literally literally literally the rock he lived on in fact, I'm going to get some photos to illustrate what I'm talking about. Nineteen fifty three. Sorry it's very loud.

41:55 Speaker 1: But so Georgianni is, So I'm gonna mute you for a second while you type like a my coworker, God, my coworker types. She like has one of those keyboards that's meant to click. It drives me crazy, like I have to go in the other room. It's wild. So what's your point with all this?

42:19 Speaker 2: So I just wanted to illustrate. So back then, here's the rock, Here's where he lived under the rock.

42:26 Speaker 1: And so you know what Nazi sympathizer blew himself up in that rock? Right?

42:32 Speaker 2: I did not know that. I probably I probably did, but it was it's not like super important to the idea of what when I was. It wasn't important to what I was doing.

42:41 Speaker 1: But but yeah, so Georgianni is bringing that up, saying, you know why is is?

42:49 Speaker 2: This is what I was going to say in response to that. I find this is why I bring up the fact it was an airport. Back then, you had like a fledgling intelligence service, and you've got a guy with a very private airfield out in the desert's perfect. It's very useful, right, that's very useful. That guy starts pushing stories that it inevitably pushed the idea of white savior aliens and I guess American exceptionalism because he's the one having contact now, so the the split between him and Roger what's his face?

43:34 Speaker 2: It's in the beginning of the documentary. I made a Darcy wear I honestly can't remember.

43:39 Speaker 1: Which for anyone doesn't know, it's a Dark Alliance available anywhere you get your films, Amazon, Apple, all those places by it.

43:50 Speaker 2: Now, that was a fantastic promoter.

43:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take that check.

43:56 Speaker 2: So he he he ended up having like a big sp lit with this guy. And this is where the Ashtark command comes from. So Ashtark command was actually I know, we were kind of off track of Georgiohnny book.

44:10 Speaker 1: No, it's actually all along the same So.

44:15 Speaker 2: I actually this is why a bookended Dark Alliance one with this story when when I was writing. Because the idea of like ownership over contact narratives is something that that film investigates with Corey Good and David Wilcock, especially Corey Good and his his want to trademark Space Program, the Secret Space all this stuff. So back then Van Tassell had a friend who was like, he was publishing like Interplanetary Weekly, which was a publication.

44:48 Speaker 1: And probably under mocking Bird this is another thing.

44:53 Speaker 2: But he he wanted to he wanted to like monetize it. He wanted to push it out to the masses. He wanted big billboards. And Van Tassel was more like, no, I think we should just keep it more humble, like it's about introspection and connection like and that split is how it's basically this this this other.

45:12 Speaker 1: Guy Roger Eger. No, I can't I can't remember I can't I remember the last name.

45:19 Speaker 4: Anyway anyway, so he he, he goes off and creates Ashtark Command, and then Van Tassel had to release a big statement saying this Ashtark command has nothing to do with my own ashtar, which again is an echo of Corey good saying I'm the only person that can have contact with these beings.

45:37 Speaker 1: Which is so can we can? Can I bookend here that Corey is such he is so greedy, that he's so stupid, because dude, when someone comes up and says, hey, dude, I was in the Secret space program to twenty year back, fucking Urah dude, you embrace that instead this fucking idiot like can't even look the guy in the eye right, Like it's so weird, Like, ah, dude, it drives me insane, how stupid and greedy he is. Like you should have leaned it. If you were really trying to sell this, you should have leaned in, and you should have said, yeah, you were in fucking twenty and back.

46:18 Speaker 1: This is fucking great, we have another witness. Let's lie together.

46:23 Speaker 2: What yes, if your primary motivation wasn't the ultimate ownership of that narrative, which that was his plan the whole time, allegedly, But.

46:34 Speaker 1: Then it's worth the thing. You see what I'm see him going though, Like if it ultimately comes out that it's his intellectual property and no one else could possibly be involved, Well, yet he cites other people being involved.

46:45 Speaker 2: Right, but if he if he allowed other people to use his IP and it came out that they made it up again put him at risk. So I get it. It's stupid. I get it. And if you're trying to protect an IP, it makes sense if you're trying to

47:03 Speaker 2: get your story out there, because it's true then yeah, obviously you'd embrace it, you'd be you'd own it and be looking for other people. There was a moment early on in Cosmic Disclosure where he said, eventually I want other people to be coming out and talking about their own contact with these beings, and then when they did, he like ruined their careers or you know, like Jason Rice literally lost his job at NASA for to bew Like whether it's true or not, I doubt, but they brigaded the fact he spoke out on Gaya, and then guy Corey and his group allegedly went to NASA and brigaded them until they quietly let Jason go.

47:41 Speaker 2: And Jason has only been seen like a handful of time since. Really yeah, he pops up at conferences every now and then it's like, oh shit, that's Jason.

47:50 Speaker 1: Right, So that part of it had always seemed very, very stupid to me, that he had kind of almost self sabotaged because then you know, he ends up in court. But yeah, anyway, I just you know what I find really like really bizarre about this whole thing, you know, because Corey Good has kind of went away for the most part, like people know, like people know that he's bullshit enough to the fact enough at least there are faction. I understand that there's like this weird faction of people that that definitely probably still stand with Gory to some degree.

48:29 Speaker 1: Uh maybe some that are private. But why how is David Wilcox still profiting off of this nonsensical I.

48:49 Speaker 2: Think you know, well, I mean that the original wepisodes across my disclosure were taken off of Gaya when they left the movies. That profit nobody's been paid out from those movies. Like that's why there's all these court cases. So he doesn't get profit from Corey. His main source of profit is YouTube.

49:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and doesn't he have hundreds of thousands of us like watchers and they're always giving donations and so.

49:23 Speaker 2: He's not talking about Corey though. So he's getting a lot, he gets money, but like he's selling this new age bullshit, but he's not he's not making money of Corey.

49:32 Speaker 1: Specifically understood, I'm saying Corey only comes into the picture with David. So how is David not implicated in the Corey good like grift? If you will like what I mean, obviously it did end up hurting David. You know, like most of his actions. I mean, he kind of built a career around this, this this idea that the world was gonna end in twenty twelve and or at least our content. You know, you know the story better than I do, and we should probably move on in a minute. But how I mean so, I guess I did maybe answer my own question because he did lose like the ancient alien stuff.

50:13 Speaker 1: He lost like any credibility and like actual documentary filmmaking with other people in the disclosure movement because his name had become tainted, so that relegated him just to the faces of YouTube and new age you have.

50:28 Speaker 2: As soon as he hit Geya, the only like he couldn't get into other things once he was on Guy, it was like they locked him down. It probably also controlled could It's probably we couldn't just go do other documentaries. That's why they waited until after they left GIA to release Above Top Secret and the cosmet oh Secret, right right?

50:54 Speaker 1: Or yeah Majestic Yeah, which you know again, like it's kind of crazy to me thinking about it, because you know, I really do eat up all like the UFO documentaries, and for a while I was watching all of them it didn't matter, like it didn't matter who was making it. You know. I wouldn't go back to like the Strange Harvest Days, but anything that was like two thousand post two thousand and one I would. I would watch and just like whether it was popcorn movie watching it or I was consuming it all and that stuff interested me.

51:33 Speaker 1: But I never got to the point of like subscribing to Gaya and don't like donating to David Wilcox or anything like that. And I know that some people's lives, like some people's lives were ruined in the course of this whole secret Space program nonsense. So it like we have to be cognizant as a community that there are people that are trying to take advantage of you. Yeah, And that is a good segue because the next thing that I want to talk about is something that it's it's hard to talk about, but it's also easy to talk about.

52:11 Speaker 1: And the reason I say it's hard to talk about is because it's almost like if you talk about it, you're giving it merit. We're in one of those situations, uh, the UFO community. And the reason I bring it up is because I know Jene Sticcko and a video came out on ex Twitter whatever you call it of Jean who had met up with lou Elizondo and I've Jeane called me and texted me like right after it happened, and I was like, oh, that's cool whatever. But little did I know there was a video and there was It went out on Disco Disclosure tonight.

52:54 Speaker 1: I think it's the show with Thomas Wessler and Mike something whistling mic on X and essentially there's like this war of the narratives going around, and this is something I think that has been a very big presence in the on And I want to stress this the online UFO community because nowhere, to my knowledge, on paper or in real life, is any of this talked about. I've been to contact in the desert, I've been to different conferences. None of this is ever really playing. I've never seen it, you know, as a presentation or this or that.

53:42 Speaker 1: It's seemingly only on X and the UFO quote unquote community. And I don't say that because like red Pandicuala or Tupacabra, they don't make videos and they don't I'm not saying that, and I'm not saying Alizado them theyn't make videos and aren't relevant. I'm saying, the drama of trying, you know, to get each other deplatform, demonetize, I mean, and the illegality of it. I'm really unclear as to what is going on. It's very hard to follow. And it seems like the UFO communities almost and I say this like really with the most sincerity.

54:26 Speaker 1: It seems like we can be our own worst enemy.

54:31 Speaker 2: Yeah.

54:32 Speaker 1: And so the video in the video, it's Jane sitting down with Elizondo and I know where they were because Gene told me and he sent me the picture and I knew where they were, and he ivan handled the lawyer and Jane, you know, they made Lewis in town and he's like, oh, I'll go see him. So then Geene is good friends with Mike and Tom of Disclosure Tonight and he call like did like a live call in on Disclosure tonight because that's how that's run. And you know, it's it's really just caused a lot of waves.

55:16 Speaker 1: Did you see the video?

55:18 Speaker 2: Nope? Oh I don't watch.

55:22 Speaker 1: Just slammed a brick wall right there.

55:25 Speaker 2: Also, I heard about it. I heard about it.

55:28 Speaker 1: But backtracking, Echo, thank you for the super chat again. We are guys, we are here, going to be here live every Thursday. Your super chats are super encouraged and really really help going into keeping the lights on literally and paying keeping Yeah should Yeah, that would be a good idea. But I want the audience to be as engaged as possible, and I want you guys to ask questions. And I want you guys you know, if you disagree or I think someone called us, I don't. I don't think it's acceptable to use the R word anymore.

56:02 Speaker 1: Uh, But I mean, listen, you want to say that that's cool? Like me, right, he called us a retard, which I think is cancel that man, cancel him, but give your thoughts. Become the third uh, the third host.

56:20 Speaker 2: Become the awkward third third wheel in the sport.

56:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, eventually you want to break this up into segments and have some stuff. But yeah, so there's just a lot of a lot of a lot of drama in the community online. No. The thing is is it's been happening for so long. Uh Like, whether it's guys like KMF, it seems like and hear me out on this, it seems like but and I cannot say that if al Zonda was not sitting right here that I wouldn't be interested in asking questions and having a discussion. I absolutely would. My questions would be a little bit different than the ones that have been asked of him now or to this time.

57:06 Speaker 1: But I think that's what would make it interesting. And you know it's being talked about. I do know Ivan, So I plan on having Tim Phillips on and now I can say that because we've confirmed it, and the questions I ask him are going to be hard. The point is to, you know, ask the questions that no one else is willing to ask.

57:29 Speaker 2: And can I just put a pin on that. Yeah, Whilst you ask those questions, it's important to give meaningful pushback when answers don't necessarily make sense. Yeah, because like asking those questions but just getting a stock reply, then you've done absolutely no.

57:47 Speaker 1: Work, right, There has to be a knack for So this is my point is a lot of people and you know my heart Like I love Chris Ramsey. I've I say that like in a non weird way. I think he has one of the I mean, his studio is amazing, His ability to produce the stuff that he produces amazing, Like guy who got who isn't just famous for UFO stuff, you know, was an illusionist, a magician and really made his first real big name by doing that and then having that interest in the UFO world, you know, creating Area fifty two.

58:28 Speaker 1: But when he interviewed Alexondo, it was just like just he took everything at fakes value, and I'm like pushback, Like all I wanted was just even a little bit of follow up to this something that didn't quite make sense right, and you know, he'd even ask for clarity. And he's not the only one, make no mistake about it, But it seems that Alizondo, in the interviews that he gets, there is a lot of like there is a lot of things that the host is just seeming not willing to do. And it also bothered me when like Rogan had how put off on and not once does he bring up scientology after having lea remedion and making huge deals about scientology and what they're doing.

59:18 Speaker 1: And you know, not to not to sugarcoat things because I love Danny Jones as well, but Danny Jones just had Luna on and there was a couple of times that I would have pushed back, but Danny just took took it all and just you know, it's I understand what it's like to have one of these, like really high profile guests and you want to appease them. But listen, we need to hold ourselves to that journalistic standard. As podcasters and as interviewers amen to that. So that's some of the stuff that bothers me in the community a big you know, I don't know, do you what's your I just want to ask you a question.

59:56 Speaker 1: Okay, being who you are.

59:59 Speaker 2: I am me, I may meet the other me.

1:00:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is your take on the ALEC? What is your take on Alex Jones.

1:00:12 Speaker 2: Is a mimetic machine who said some really stupid shit.

1:00:21 Speaker 2: I think he stole with Bill Cooper's grift. But yeah, I mean, I mean if you'd asked me ten to fifteen years ago, yes, but I grew up, so I now recognize the harm that he has done through erroneous reporting. But he's also been right about a lot of shit. So it's like, I'm not going to discount him completely. I think he's just an idiot, Like he's an idiot with an organization that's right quite a lot of the time. But it's also wrong a lot of the time, like hilariously wrong. Just full disclosure for the audio.

1:01:00 Speaker 2: By the age of like twelve, I was watching info Wars. My first game attack was terror Storm, which is the name of Alex Jones' two thousand and four documentary. Like, I was all in on Alex Drurans from like a very early age, and then I grew up. So like I've grown up with Alex Drurance. He's almost like a weird uncle, you know, because I've just I've literally been watching him since I was a child almost, So it be I can't conceive of a world of an Internet because he was there for basically when I got on the Internet.

1:01:35 Speaker 2: I can't conceive of an Internet that doesn't contain.

1:01:37 Speaker 1: Alex rand right and war.

1:01:40 Speaker 2: And yeah, Info Wars kind of went away with the whole Sandy Hook thing anyway, now it's the Alex Stroones show. But yeah, so if he loses the trademark to Info Wars, it's really.

1:01:52 Speaker 1: Well, that's what I wanted to bring up. So the Onion, I think it was last year the Onion had picked up and bought Info Wars, and the Onion is is uh pretty satirical in nature in its nature. Uh so I thought it was. I mean, it made sense why they would buy info Wars, but they seem to have purchased, you know, a lot of debt from what it from what it seemed like it was going to happen now he owes. So the judge just ruled again, so not in favor of Alex to appeal. The one point for uh? Is it billion dollars?

1:02:37 Speaker 2: Something like that?

1:02:39 Speaker 1: I can't hear anybody can't hear me? Is it just me? Can anyone hear Cary?

1:02:44 Speaker 2: Hell? Are testing testing?

1:02:49 Speaker 1: I can't hear you? Can someone in the comments let us know? Is can you hear Cary?

1:02:57 Speaker 2: What's happened?

1:03:00 Speaker 1: Okay, it's just you must be me? Oh yeah, that's what. That's weird.

1:03:08 Speaker 2: What was the question?

1:03:11 Speaker 1: Wait? What the hell?

1:03:15 Speaker 2: What we have here is a failure to communicate?

1:03:20 Speaker 1: Why did I one second? I'm gonna have to back out in real time.

1:03:35 Speaker 2: I'm the captain now, welcome to the carriage show. Can I get rid of that? Can I? Can I get rid of the thing? I hope no one screenshots this. I can't go behind it. Damn it. I was trying to what I was trying to cover up the total disclosure logo because it's the carriage show now. Now now, people are probably just gonna screenshot me. And it looks like I'm doing the Nazi salute, so you're welcome.

1:03:59 Speaker 1: What do you you.

1:04:04 Speaker 2: Wait, isn't isn't that? Isn't the Nazi sweet with the left hand?

1:04:08 Speaker 1: I don't know. Uh no, it'd be the right because it's coming.

1:04:11 Speaker 2: Over your heart right. I didn't do it like that. I just just did that. But like it looks bad, right.

1:04:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks pretty bad when you do anything like this. Don't wave anyone off anymore. Like it's just it's seen certain way.

1:04:25 Speaker 2: It's okay, you just did it way more than I did, like five times.

1:04:29 Speaker 1: If anyone wants.

1:04:33 Speaker 2: Don't, don't. Okay, I thought you just got to do it. I was.

1:04:38 Speaker 1: Sich, don't do it. He's behind the scenes, Like, fuck, dude, we haven't even got started. Yeah, we're already out of the game. Also, guys, if you want to, you can scare the QR codes up in the corner to you know, given a donation. Uh on PayPal. We don't get charged for those ones aside from the cash out fee. But yeah, so and then there are multiple QR codes that the black one is for all my links and that includes Care's links as well, so it just brings you all my links.

1:05:16 Speaker 2: You know what we need to do. We need to add a link to the dock Lines documentary to the description of the videos as well as my Twitter account. Yeah, I've just realized in real time we need to do this. So look, actually you're seeing the show being constructed in real time.

1:05:31 Speaker 1: As we Yeah, I actually do.

1:05:33 Speaker 2: You're in at the ground floor.

1:05:34 Speaker 1: No, we did get an offer. So there's something I wanted to talk to you about offscreen. But there's a cannabis seltzer company that wants us to do an ad read So.

1:05:47 Speaker 2: I mean, actually can I don't. I'm not sure that I can have that shipped to me here in the UK.

1:05:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll do it so it's legal. But there's also another one Strong Coffee. It's called the brand is Strong Coffe.

1:06:00 Speaker 2: I could absolutely review that coffee.

1:06:03 Speaker 1: Yeah. So look, people are already seeing that the show is interesting enough to do that. So Alex Jones Info Wars again kind of bet as he's he's been a staple of like Conspira. He's like if conspiracy, you know, is in like the dictionary and it is like jokingly, there would be a picture of him next to it. Right, he seems to throw shit at the wall and whatever stick sticks. But in the nineties he was doing some actually good like journalism, like breaking into like not breaking in, but he was got he did break in.

1:06:50 Speaker 2: I stole Bill Cooper's grift because when Bill Cooper died in November of two thousand and one, right after nine to eleven, Bill Cooper predicted nine to eleven.

1:06:59 Speaker 1: By the way, yeah, but it's.

1:07:00 Speaker 2: Funny because Alex terrarn says I predicted nine to eleven when Bill Cooper went on his radio show and predicted nine to eleven. But even the next day, the next day, Alex sturns steals that idea and prediction, and there's it on his show and goes, see I predicted nine eleven. It's like, no, you didn't, Bill Cooper. Did you just stole his report? Everyone can.

1:07:22 Speaker 1: Even Tucker Carlson had Alex on and was like, you know.

1:07:28 Speaker 2: That happened like two days ago.

1:07:29 Speaker 1: Right, No, this is this is actually he just did another interview and a new one's called What's what Comes next or whatever, But the one he had done with Alex recently. And listen, Alex has like really gotten he It seems like the court stuff kind of like got in his head and he was drinking a lot. And listen, I as a as a as someone who sobered myself. I'm not giving Alex a pass on the stuff that he said about anything about that, because he has got a lot, right, you are right, and you know he is.

1:08:05 Speaker 1: He's controversial in in the in the way that you know your conspiratorial uncle Joe at Thanksgiving is like that there's always one in the family, right, And like Alex is like the top up of the pier that stuff. You know, he's the he's famous for, you know, being on Rogan half in the bag, you know, screaming at Joe about how the frogs are gay, and like turns out that's it was actually true to a degree that they would turning the frog. Yeah. So like it's just the weirdest shit, and like it makes you think, like if this isn't by the way, if we're in the matrix and and we have some writers, they deserve awards for what they've come up with the past, you know, twenty thirty forty years, Because I mean God damn.

1:09:03 Speaker 1: They told a good story, a tragic story, but a good one.

1:09:09 Speaker 2: Two years.

1:09:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're doing a reboot.

1:09:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're currently changed. The story, arcs have changed. I don't know what the end thing is going to be anymore.

1:09:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a new season a doctor Who. Right, they're recasting everyone, but Alex could do you think that Alex Jones is going to do you think that he's going to essentially be thrust into bankruptcy because the the victims the quote unquote like because victims is used in, Yeah, victims is used in a really weird way here because they are actually victims. They did have losses in Sandy Hook from that the right the thing, and so they are victims. But then they're also the that they're utilizing the word victim in this is victims of the defamation.

1:10:06 Speaker 1: That's that is specifically what's on trial here. It's not the fact, it's not anything else aside from that.

1:10:14 Speaker 2: It's the fast many it's mainly that parent that was like kind of.

1:10:18 Speaker 1: But they want to take they they don't they say this is what they say. They don't care about the money. They want him off the air, and they won't stop until he's off the air.

1:10:28 Speaker 2: Do you think that that's not that's no, because that's not how the fucking First Amendment works.

1:10:33 Speaker 1: Like, thank you so much, thank you?

1:10:37 Speaker 2: Like, do I disagree with what he said and did? Yes? But he had like as.

1:10:41 Speaker 1: Well, No, no, no, no, you know you don't.

1:10:44 Speaker 2: No, no, I don't.

1:10:47 Speaker 1: Okay, yes, pull that back.

1:10:49 Speaker 2: You're like, do I agree with what he said? No? But yes, I agree that I jumped like four words in my sense, I know, I know. I thank you for catching me because I even notice I've done that.

1:11:03 Speaker 2: So yeah, like I disagree with that, but I agree that he has the right to say it as long as he's not inciting violence or directing anything towards a specific individual or I guess in this situation. Yeah, he he defamed, right, he defamed the parents and implied their crisis actor the stuff. Yep, that obviously wrong, huge mistake. But apart from that, he didn't violate any constitutional law. He didn't violate or he doesn't deserve to have his constitutional rights violated to appease the emotions of some people that he defamed.

1:11:45 Speaker 2: That's not how that's not how the constitution works. So yeah, find him, liquidate info Wars as a brand, do all of that stuff to satisfy this this this bloodlust for vengeance, which probably does come.

1:12:03 Speaker 1: It has become that because it's almost like it's almost like and I hate to say this, but you know that the loss of the the loss of somebody is a very strong motivator, right yea, And especially the scenario that.

1:12:21 Speaker 2: This is why I don't think the parents are wrong for Chase.

1:12:23 Speaker 1: I don't either.

1:12:24 Speaker 2: I just think the stated goal being we're not going to stop until he's off the air, well, you can't tape his mouth shut, you can't keep him off the internet. Like that's not an objective, that's actually reasonable, even though that's my problem with it.

1:12:39 Speaker 1: He was really the first person to be canceled in the modern day media. So he was removed in one day. He was removed from Apple, YouTube x on Twitter at the time.

1:12:54 Speaker 2: I believe, right, just the situation that led to him being because it wasn't soundyho, what was I think it was? It wasn't in twenty twelve, This was in like twenty twenty, twenty eight, nineteen. Well, I want to think it was like stuff and q Q and if anyone in anyone else why Alex Rans was deleted from it from X and Twitter and Facebook and Apple and everything in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen era.

1:13:25 Speaker 1: And here's the thing, So that is legal. It is those are private so right now, for instance, we are on YouTube, we're on Rumble, and we're on Acts right now, So those are private entities. They have every right to take you and remove you and ban you from their private platform, right.

1:13:52 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that is in life, if you.

1:13:54 Speaker 1: Create your own website.

1:13:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, like he has done what he can't He can just say whatever he wants on the show because it's broadcast primarily to his own website. Now they'd have to go after the server farm is it Amazon Web Services?

1:14:09 Speaker 1: Is it?

1:14:10 Speaker 2: Or has he brought his own servers to host the show, which given his infrastructure, probably wouldn't be that hard for him.

1:14:18 Speaker 1: I think he does, right, So it's.

1:14:22 Speaker 2: I Whilst I'm sympathetic to what they're doing, the stated goal is not reasonable and not achievable, so they should take the payout and go and live their lives.

1:14:34 Speaker 1: But it's not behind.

1:14:36 Speaker 2: Once once they get the money, there's nothing more that they can get. There's nothing, there's no other judgment that they can get for it.

1:14:43 Speaker 1: Well, they want they want.

1:14:45 Speaker 2: Alex jump Scare, they want.

1:14:47 Speaker 1: Alex off the air. They want him, they want info Wars gone, they want Alex Jahn. And like I said, I've now this. That is a direct quote. They that multiple people. There's a quote from them saying the money is not what we're after here. It's the fact that Alex is still able to broadcast. And you know that is again it brings up this fundamental like this this really interesting talk about free speech and the right a free a free press in the United States and the constitution, like because the internet, the Constitution was always like people think, like even when it comes to gun laws, they're like, okay, the laws are antiquated, right, Well, it was always meant to be able to adapt.

1:15:45 Speaker 1: That's why amendments were a thing. Right, It was always meant to change and and change with the times to be the best version of self governance.

1:15:59 Speaker 2: Isn't it as long as the amendment doesn't actually violate the constitutional statute that it's amending the fundamentally change the the what was codified in the original in the original like amendment to the Constitution.

1:16:18 Speaker 1: Right right, right, right. So the fact that the Internet came around and it really became like it became whether it wanted to or not. You start asking like is X is Facebook? Are these especially post pandemic and the way that society is heading? Are these places? Do they represent free speech? They are they a right? At this point? Like where is that line? Eventually? You know it's going to have to be addressed, because it's it's this very weird like limb that we're in because you know, people people are obviously have their opinions in real life and like what I call quote unquote real life.

1:17:09 Speaker 1: But the fact is the Internet and social media is life like it is part of life now. And you know people are getting arrested in certain countries over posts and I mean it's it's just it's becoming this Orwellian nightmare.

1:17:32 Speaker 2: Yes, well, I agree with the a Wellian nightmare bit.

1:17:35 Speaker 1: For sure, especially in your country, bro.

1:17:39 Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean I don't really pay attention to that kind of stuff because I know that.

1:17:43 Speaker 1: The comedian arrested for five.

1:17:47 Speaker 2: Like, there's gonna it's they're gonna hit a wall with it where the people go enough is enough because I know what I know what my country is like. So I'm not too worried about. But anyway back, yeah, in terms of the Constitution and whether platforms have constitutional protections. See, this is this is a really this is a very complicated issue. Of course it is because this gets into what's what's the act that protects protects platforms from speech made on the platform. I can't remember the I don't know which one it is, but you know.

1:18:25 Speaker 1: Yes, it's it's I think it's like, oh god, it's on the tip of my tongue. It was put in the place so that, like you said, the the user and what they said. So again it's it's it's like proposition something I think I believe it's.

1:18:42 Speaker 2: Called something like that.

1:18:44 Speaker 1: But it protects like X itself from like say, Hamas is tweeting God, I think, like I'm pretty sure organized like terrorist organizations have a kind of and they tweet like they post.

1:19:02 Speaker 2: And I've seen them.

1:19:04 Speaker 1: There's protection there that so that X cannot be held liable for what the user says. However, they are obligated in a sense. Yes, section I knew it was like proposition or section. But there is also this fine line between. So you see that the lines are getting blurred, right, and that like newspapers are going away, so journalism is now like substack medium that kind of thing.

1:19:38 Speaker 2: SOMs. Text media that's been decentralized. Now we're getting to the point where video news production that's getting decentralized right where everybody's running their own their own network like candae Oms or Tarker Carlson or extras. Like Funnily enough, all conservative people. I don't see anybody on the left having their own network a really.

1:20:00 Speaker 1: Well that's their problem, that's one of their issue thing. Well, like even Gavin Newsome as a podcast now and they think they're all like they think they're.

1:20:10 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, this is the other things. There's this oh I've got my own network. It's like, no, you've got a website and a podcast. Yeah, does not a network make Yeah?

1:20:22 Speaker 1: All right, push him back, pushing, push him back, Push him back. Alex Jones, though, you know, did you I remember he had uh Lou on And you know what's weird if you actually go back and watch the coverage that he has had of Lou since then, he's actually been very critical.

1:20:41 Speaker 2: Of them and who had Lou on?

1:20:43 Speaker 1: Sorry Jones, Alex Jones had him on, you know for Wars is like twenty four to seven.

1:20:50 Speaker 2: On Alex.

1:20:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, when did that happen? A while back? A while back, But since then he's been sort of critical of.

1:21:02 Speaker 2: Of Yeah because they smell fed. Literally was like, ah, these guys are running disclosure. Yeah, well I just I just want to address Colm Buckley. I'm not sure if we actually did say it earlier. So November twenty first, I think we didn't say it. November twenty first is when Age of Disclosure comes out on Prime Video, and it.

1:21:27 Speaker 1: Will be also rerun simultaneously in three cities for a at least we're guessing fourteen to twenty one day theatrical run.

1:21:38 Speaker 2: Right, and so actually chimed in earlier that it's a seven day minimum for OSCAR qualification, with a longer run required for best Picture.

1:21:48 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, that's right. Ah, And I should know that stuff because I I literally was anyway, Ah, you had some things you wanted to show.

1:22:01 Speaker 2: I think I did. I did. I had a bunch of all right, I let you, I let you drive the boat today.

1:22:07 Speaker 1: So yeah, pick one and let's go. So we're gonna go to a quick uh tension palette cleanser. Oh, what's the Age of Disclosure? Pig shows up there?

1:22:33 Speaker 2: Do you work for Dan?

1:22:34 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I have a stock in Age of Disclosure documentary. I knew it.

1:22:39 Speaker 2: That's that's what I am.

1:22:41 Speaker 1: One of the producers. Actually, just kidding, I wish, just kidding.

1:22:46 Speaker 2: Actually you felt thet.

1:22:48 Speaker 1: Yep, all right, so what is it? But Dronah Paloza does continue in the in the in the Europe area.

1:22:58 Speaker 2: Oh ship, I got too many? No, not that one. I can't bloody go that one. So this one is in. You think it's a UFO, but it's not. So there's this spiral video going around.

1:23:15 Speaker 1: Then get rid of the batter. This one full screens. So oh that does look very interesting. But it seems this.

1:23:30 Speaker 2: Week's Oh my god, I can't believe people believe this video. We've got to name the segment. We've got to name the segment.

1:23:38 Speaker 1: But the obvious AI, yeah this is.

1:23:45 Speaker 2: But it's it's an it's an example.

1:23:48 Speaker 1: It's getting way too good though, that is way too good.

1:23:52 Speaker 2: This isn't even new. This is the thing. So this was actually meant that you're sorry, that's all right, it's from five years ago.

1:24:03 Speaker 1: So and they're repurposing and saying happened yesterday or whatever.

1:24:06 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, so like this is a repert this even be hard you look at that.

1:24:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they like made it grainy, and that's that's a huge tell, at least in my opinion, because but there is a point at one point when they zoom in and it does that like like the thing that the iPhone does when you zoom and it gets like lighter to darker. It goes like a really quick transition. So this seems like it's some sort of video that was put you know that was our that was filmed with nothing and then something was added in, like the craft is added in to follow and track the motion.

1:24:46 Speaker 2: I think this was done with an app and then they applied grain to it.

1:24:50 Speaker 1: After Yeah, but you said it was five years old, so there's no AI in it then.

1:24:55 Speaker 2: Right, Well no, it would just be an app or it's it's someone just animated it and then grain over.

1:25:02 Speaker 1: Right. So that's what I mean. So for people who don't people watching, so oftentimes when you're watching a fake UFO video, there's there's these weird things they do that are that that should be red flags immediately. And that is very like distortions of the actual picture, like over over, grainy, over exposed, like some something that will mask the fact that there are sloppy cuts and mask the fact that there's an you know, a blemish or an imperfection in the actual effect that they're trying to achieve.

1:25:47 Speaker 2: Yep, so like this, like this, what makes it not make sense is this light over here?

1:26:02 Speaker 1: There's no boat off of the light. What is that?

1:26:08 Speaker 2: Like it would be distorting the view.

1:26:11 Speaker 1: But see how it gets darker right there. So it's like he took the greeny It's like he took the grainy filter off and cut in that moment back to the actual sort of.

1:26:25 Speaker 2: Did you see it?

1:26:26 Speaker 1: Yeah?

1:26:27 Speaker 3: So did you?

1:26:28 Speaker 1: Yeah?

1:26:29 Speaker 2: Slow motion because.

1:26:32 Speaker 1: Yeah so so it's like it goes back, the greeniness disappears and it's hidden in that moment. See how it just it fades. No greenness, that doesn't fade like that? What are you fucking crazy?

1:26:47 Speaker 2: That could be that could be just ramping down the ramping down the brightness or whatever. But I was more interested in the clear key framing on the transition where it starts to move it you could see the look at it, so look in relation to this light. Yeah, yeah, you see the shrink shrink in the swerve. Yes, so that that was not a natural lens phenomenon.

1:27:20 Speaker 1: So this is yeah, okay, that's funny, good good good good fake though like.

1:27:26 Speaker 2: For yeah, it was an interest. It's a good example of like how many views does it have? Seven thousand views over five years and then four thousand views on that tweet, So no, it's not super viral, but I thought it was an example of like one of these videos that gets shared around is like old and fake and gets repurposed. And that's that's something I want to do at least once every show is call out these idiotic accounts that repurpose videos because.

1:27:52 Speaker 1: There's a lot of them X that do it.

1:27:54 Speaker 2: There are a lot of them.

1:27:56 Speaker 1: Those are the ones we should be watching and calling out. So what else do you get for us for a video?

1:28:02 Speaker 6: I have.

1:28:05 Speaker 1: This time?

1:28:05 Speaker 2: Instead? This was I actual meant to show this last week. I got distrected.

1:28:11 Speaker 1: So this is Washington.

1:28:13 Speaker 2: Wait for it? You see it? Oh ship spoke the clouds.

1:28:22 Speaker 1: And it curved if I'm not mistaken, right, Yeah, it's like hooks like it's it's on a oh and then it turns again.

1:28:34 Speaker 2: What is that? I don't know what it is what.

1:28:41 Speaker 1: So this is a city cam again, so I'm seeing a city camp again. That one an awfully good detail.

1:28:52 Speaker 1: That is right over the capitol too.

1:28:57 Speaker 2: Dude, I'm not going to say that's Aliens, but I can't identify that from the footage, so that's definitely unidentified.

1:29:06 Speaker 1: So look it goes.

1:29:10 Speaker 2: Warp from the original series movies.

1:29:13 Speaker 1: Right, but you see at the end there, So I've I've noticed that at least in the videos I that I kind of have the most intrigue in they They they sort of have this like ripple effect behind them. It's almost like it's uh distorted, and it's like skipping, and it has it right at the end, right as it gets to the top of the frame, it does that like skipping thing distorts. So watch here as it goes up, it curls around and then it makes kind of like one final change of course and then it skips a couple of times.

1:29:55 Speaker 1: See that. But I'm actually i'd be really can you send me this? Yeah, I'd like to put this into ah, but we don't have the original source video, do we.

1:30:07 Speaker 3: No?

1:30:08 Speaker 1: Ah, that's what we have to do a good job of. We have to build a team like that. That's that's what I want, Brion, and.

1:30:15 Speaker 2: Uh, good luck.

1:30:21 Speaker 1: I want a team. We're gonna build a Christina Goz. We're gonna build. We're gonna build.

1:30:29 Speaker 2: But there's no way you never get come down from us. Friend, it's never gonna happen.

1:30:34 Speaker 1: Pree, come on for you, come down one day.

1:30:38 Speaker 2: One day. I'll get the goat doesn't The goat doesn't.

1:30:44 Speaker 1: Guess what's coming tomorrow?

1:30:46 Speaker 2: What's coming tomorrow?

1:30:47 Speaker 1: Tyler camera switcher like in studio. Yeah, and so you can have angles. I can have four angles.

1:30:56 Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I have a webcam as well, so maybe I could say to angles.

1:31:00 Speaker 1: Just to be yeah, we can actual Well, so we got the we got the ship. I don't know what model it is, but it's got fo Yeah. Anyway, for you nerds out there for content creation, uh, you know the I have an audio box that the microphone goes into for in studio. And you know the point is what we're trying to do is eventually get car to uh come live in the United States and then be the in house Jamie of of the my Rogan and have it you know him in studio producing the show, the podcast aspect of it, and you know, while we're doing this eventually, so that's that's our goals.

1:31:48 Speaker 1: Those are our goals. So you know, with your help, with some super chats, uh, with some memberships, and you know, we'll we'll we'll be what we really do. We're gonna be putting a lot of effort into the podcast, uh, the live show weekly and you know, doing a lot more fun stuff as well. You know, I have ideas for a certain show that I pitched to Cary, and I think, you know, the debate is whether it's shooting it practical, but it's it's really cool. So uh yeah, anyway, that was I wanted to.

1:32:23 Speaker 2: Just I wanted to just segue onto that. But tomorrow we have the premiere of the edit.

1:32:30 Speaker 1: Which is already available for members. By the way, as soon as Cary gets it to me, I put it right up for members. I might even.

1:32:39 Speaker 2: I haven't spoken to you about because.

1:32:42 Speaker 1: Again, shot it contact in the desert, just a simple two camera angle. I could have sent you the angles that the cameraman shot, but I really didn't want to go, you know, with a with a sweeping cam on this one because it was this one was the first one we shot when we got to Contact. I actually the first one I shot was with Greg Rodgers, but that was at the hotel. The first interview I shot in the media room at Contact was with Peter, so we were still kind of like shaking off and getting used to the setup.

1:33:18 Speaker 1: So, but fascinating conversation about you know, Peter's you know, Peter was kind of lost a lot of credibility at one point for his for his investigation into Randallsham and he has since gained it back. And then I worked at them again at the Exeter UFO Festival, and I really, I really love Peter.

1:33:40 Speaker 2: I really do like a cool production story. I didn't know about that until I didn't know he was. Someone pointed it out to me on next and I was like, wait, what that's the thing.

1:33:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, So again that was me not having the information, and you know, you weren't there, We didn't really know each other when we weren't really working like that together yet.

1:34:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, not at that point.

1:34:01 Speaker 1: But the Contact Desert twenty twenty six. You better believe that Cary and I are going and you better believe that the content that we produce out of that like it's going to be fucking incredible. It's gone.

1:34:18 Speaker 2: I'm excited for it. I know there are people in the chat watching, so Enzo I hope will be a contact. I've met him at Contact a few times. Who else I think maybe Echo Echo might come.

1:34:36 Speaker 1: Well. This the contact in Contact twenty twenty five was the biggest one, the most attendance they've had ever, and I think next year is going to be even bigger, just because you know, these kind of things build. You know, I walked in so I you know, Contact of the Desert was fucking crazy for me, Like it was the first time I had ever been. I got, you know, Earl Gray Anderson, who was a mentor of mine, passes away, right, and he's supposed to do some some introductions because he's early and he's Earl fucking Anderson, and you know, he's the he was the Moufon director for Southern California.

1:35:22 Speaker 2: It's the that's the like as I met him in twenty four years.

1:35:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, as a director of any chapter of Moufon Southern California is that is the one, right, that's the chapter of Moufon. So there was a lot of stress involved in that job. It's a it's a volunteer job. There is a lot of cases in southern California, so Earl ends up tragically tragically passing away, and it's kind of fitting in a way that then you know I had made a good impression on some of the people that are behind the scenes at Contact by having you on to talk about Dark Alliance, and then I bonded with those persons over you and the similarities, and I think the realness that that person saw that I had.

1:36:19 Speaker 1: They were like, hey, when so when the when the unfortunate opportunity was there, they asked me to fill in. I got to introduce. They shifted it around, so then I introduced Chris Bledsoe. Introducing Chris bledso is not easy. It's so I had to get up on stage for the for the first time ever at a Contacts at a UFO conference. I'd done comic cons and other things like that, but at the biggest UFO conference, I had to get up in front of the people and introduce someone like Chris Bledsoe and I got I was shaking, but then I fell Earl and uh, you know he he had the record I think for most appearances on my podcast, aside from Bassett which is the next interview you're working on, ironically the one we filmed there.

1:37:10 Speaker 1: But that's what I mean when I say that I've been fortunate enough to be in the right place at the right time so many times, whether it was to facilitate conversations with nuclear witnesses like Salas and Mace and Salas and Burleson at both the hearings, you know, I found what I was meant to do, and I was meant to facilitate conversation, to produce this kind of content and work with someone like you. I found my place, and I feel like a lot of people in the UFO community, And I guess that's the moral to all of this, to everything that I've been saying, is instead of sitting on X and just falling into the drama of the Lou cru versus Den Lou crew or this and that, if we're defending and I've said this many times, if you're defending your favorite UFO researcher or experiencer or advocate like it's your fantasy football team, then you have an issue.

1:38:15 Speaker 1: We need to step back. This is a team sport and everyone's vowing to be the quarterback. It's like we need special teams. We need the punter, we need the offensive line, we need a united front.

1:38:33 Speaker 2: And now I feel like we need I feel like we need the silent.

1:38:36 Speaker 1: Middle to like, yeah, we need the spectators.

1:38:40 Speaker 2: Not be silent anymore. When you've got both extremes on on the spectrum. You've got the super believers and the super whatever the heck they are fighting and dosing and it's just been this never ending war and people get used as porns. And if you associate with one personnel and then you're bind by the other group and then they swell room. It's all this stuff. It's never ending. I mean, this has been I mean I've been tangentially involved in some of this since since to twenty twenty. Just because some people on one side didn't like my opinion about luel Azando, I get roped into this huge thing.

1:39:14 Speaker 2: So I know all about it. And I feel like there's a huge majority in the middle who have nothing to do with any of this, and all of it's just being fired over their heads and they're just like, they don't say anything. They see it happening, and it's just what it is, right right, And I feel like that group of people that silent majority in the middle should be less silent and say, hey, fucking knock it off, both sides of you, like this is not substantively important.

1:39:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would agree. I would agree, and I think, but what I mean is like when you get out there, when you get out there and you go to something like a hearing, and when like I can't describe it, but when you're in the room and you're watching silence brief a sitting member of Congress, and you made that happen right without you? That without you, that does not happen simply period. It doesn't happen. You put your ego aside, like I was, so I and I'm not like I hear. I'm not like like pumping air at myself.

1:40:36 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is and I'm not better than anyone. Like I can be fucking petty, and I can be annoying, and I can be you know, condescending, and I know all these things because I'm very self aware about it, and I try to be the best version I can be for the most part, and I think I am. I try to stay neutral. You know, I've made mistakes, but we all, we all need to be able to put our like I wish more people could experience things in like like actually, whether it's investigating a case and becoming an investigator for whatever entity, whether it's move On or the International Uphobia or whatever, or like doing actual work, like whether it's volunteer work or you work with whatever, whatever it is, once you find an actual place something you're passionate about, whether that's you know, talking to members of Congress and interviewing like people, whatever it ends up being, you know, being a producer on a show that you know does this, does story, whatever it contributes them this way, like if more people can find their place and what they like and what they want to get, get out there and get it.

1:41:54 Speaker 1: Go change it. You don't like it, go change it. If you don't like it, stand out, speak on it, like get involved other than tweeting.

1:42:06 Speaker 2: Well, I feel like there's a lot that there's a large sector of euthology that doesn't take place on Twitter. So I mean that's what I mean, Like it's an echo chamber. It's a very loud, loud minority on both sides that fight each other and act like what they're doing on a microblogging site means anything at all, which I not really in the grand scheme of things, like, yeah, you might get an occasional quote from someone in a space, or you might break the story, but like it's more for like real time news and not like doing important work, if that makes any sense.

1:42:42 Speaker 2: Like important work in this subject is not going to take place in a Twitter space. It's just not. It's it's too low boundaridth for that kind.

1:42:49 Speaker 1: Of work, right, But it has its place, It has its.

1:42:55 Speaker 2: I would disagree with that, but that's just a me thing because I absolutely hate pot spaces.

1:42:59 Speaker 1: But but but I'm saying spaces are you know, spaces aside because space, you can argue what we're doing is a glorified space, right, It's just a different way of doing it.

1:43:10 Speaker 2: Oh well no, no, no, I mean we're able to see each other and communicate and actually discourse instead of it being and then have it or you can pop in and talk ship.

1:43:24 Speaker 1: But I guess, okay, I see that it has as its place. But the like Internet, like it does have its place, like when Alexando or someone shows a picture and it can immediately be debunked, like with what happened at the thing in Congress where Alexander Unfortunately, I'm bringing Alexando up again. And I don't mean to pick on him, because you know, I really don't. Yeah, I I, like I said, I would love to interview Alexando. I have a lot of I have a lot of questions, uh, and I would very much treat him respectively, respectfully, with respect and you know, cordially.

1:44:10 Speaker 1: But I would ask very good questions and you know, not be afraid, uh to to ask the ones that some people might not be comfortable with.

1:44:22 Speaker 2: I think the most important thing that people can ask in an interview or do in an interview is when you ask a question and they didn't fucking answer it. You say, I'm sorry, but that was not that was an answer to some question, but unfortunately it wasn't an answer to my question.

1:44:36 Speaker 1: And it was really good at that and I recommend the content. Uh So it's this God, oh my god, why is this happening to me today? I can't remember anybody?

1:44:52 Speaker 2: Geez is it the financial guy? No user comes to mind. There's a guy who the interviews like young young zoomers or whatever about zoomers.

1:45:04 Speaker 1: The hell's a zoomer?

1:45:05 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you really are a boom Tyler.

1:45:09 Speaker 1: Millennia. I think I was born in ninety three.

1:45:12 Speaker 2: I mean, so was I.

1:45:14 Speaker 1: But okay, I'm definitely that boomer mindset.

1:45:17 Speaker 2: I guess zoomer is like, what's the opposite of a boomer?

1:45:22 Speaker 1: A zoomer is the opposite of a boomer that doesn't give you a clear picture, or what's a boomer? Uh, they're an old person, well not an older person who like, for me, the ideal boomer is like a Fox News dad.

1:45:38 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any ideal ideal in the boomer industry. But a zoomer is basically is basically anyone born after the millennium.

1:45:51 Speaker 1: All right, yeah, I don't I can't keep up with that ship. So I think it's Alex g No, that can't be right.

1:46:02 Speaker 2: Oh right, that's what I would saying. So this guy has like young young people on who are like in debt or they they made bad financial decisions, and then he like he'll he'll like quiz them on it, and then they'll give some bullshit answer and then he's like, well, you're not answering my question.

1:46:18 Speaker 6: Like that.

1:46:20 Speaker 2: Those are the best interviews, Like, yeah, you're never gonna get everybody because once people know that that's your interview style, or that can be your interview style. Either they're gonna put stipulations or they flat out won't go on your show because most people want pr they.

1:46:35 Speaker 1: Don't want Tommy G. Sorry guys. So Tommy G on YouTube Amazing Amazing Amazing channel does a lot of like documentary style videos. But he is he he's like this very soft spoken like he's he's got this like he you know, not not not not that high. I'm making him sound very like kind of like feminine, but I don't really do impressions well. But he's got this like kind of like his very unique voice and it's like hi, you like, but he's also like very jacked. So he's got he's got this big he's got this big presence, but it kind of a softer voice.

1:47:26 Speaker 1: And but someone will like steam roll him or try to steam roll him, and then he'll go like, wait, you just steamrolled me, like you didn't answer the question. Then like he'll like he'll just like call it out like very very like like like it's I hate to even say it, but like maybe on the spectrum a little bit like the way he calls it out, like my the girl I am dating is on the spectrum, so like I see the same thing in her. He's like, there's that I And I mean that with sincerity like and genuineness, like the way he like he won't if you don't answer his question, he just circles back and then tells you exactly how you just like circled around it.

1:48:17 Speaker 1: It's just it's very.

1:48:20 Speaker 2: You need something like that. For a while, I thought about making you know, like content copy content cop. I wanted to do that for upology, like UFO content cop, but I just never got around to it.

1:48:34 Speaker 1: Yeah.

1:48:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it would have been like it would have been that, it would have been examining these interviews and saying exactly what they fucking did wrong.

1:48:40 Speaker 1: Yeah. Shout out shout out to Tommy G for tackling the subjects that rarely get talked about or rarely get like the people he has involved. Although if I could give him some advice, I would say, stop shooting at such a high frame rate. His car's gonna go watch and see what I mean now, But he shoots a very high frame rate.

1:49:04 Speaker 2: It gives it this like very Oh, I'll just be sixty fbs. Yeah, it's just like we're at thirty right now, and it's it's.

1:49:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, he shoots a hot like super high frame rate and I'm like, oh god, it's like it's like it's it's like when you've taken mushrooms and you get HD vision. Oh yeah, I was.

1:49:24 Speaker 2: Gonna use So you remember when the first Hobbit movie came out and they released it in forty eight frames for like some weird reason they tried to.

1:49:32 Speaker 1: I didn't watch it.

1:49:33 Speaker 2: I saw that in the theaters and forty eight frames a second and it was the worst fucking film experience of my life. And I'd waited so long to see the Hobbit movie and I'm sitting there like, what the fuck is this?

1:49:47 Speaker 1: Like the whole thing is like a odd frame rate to choose what.

1:49:50 Speaker 2: It's double twenty four right, so it's just double. They're just doubling the speed at which the film is is exposed and.

1:49:57 Speaker 1: It yeah, no, but if it doesn't do any think for the actual like if it doesn't add to.

1:50:02 Speaker 2: The I mean it did, it made it. I know it made it. It made it smoother, but it was also it felt so artificial compared to normal film. Right, It was like how I never want to see this again. Like I was always I'm a PC player right on gaming, so I'm always like I'm trying to get sixty frames and trying to get over over one hundred frames whatever. That one cinema experience proved to me that cinema needs to be twenty four frames a second. Yeah, Like it just has to be, because that's that's just how we're how we've been culturally ingrained.

1:50:41 Speaker 1: For something you can play with aspect ratios, but you can't really you can't really like.

1:50:46 Speaker 2: The only time you want to shoot in the higher frame rate is if you're going to slow it down.

1:50:50 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, very good point, very good point. And that's what like Zack Snyder is like his slow most of is I could you it's really just like films. Yeah, arguably, But what James I thought, you know, with Superman and even with the Suicide Squad. Uh, you could start and I'm about to nerd out here, uh and kind of like reach back into my old days of podcasting with Pop Culture Corner. But what I really like what James Gunn is doing with DC so starting because with Guardians he was very rigid his his shooting style.

1:51:33 Speaker 1: It was very you know paint by numbers, play by the like, play by the rules. Yeah, of course, and he wanted to get it right right, he wanted to get and there was no Again, the studios made by I mean, films made by committee ultimately suffer like the created, the creator creation and the creator suffer and it's terrible. But and that's the problem. That was the huge problem at DC, even though it was in a different way. Leadership kept coming in and fucking everything up. But with James Gunn and Saffron, what I really like what James Gunn is doing is exploring camera movement.

1:52:24 Speaker 1: And you know, I think he used a a really wide angle lens for some of the shots of Superman flying and people had it was kind of like jarring people, jarring to people. And like they said, David corn Sweat was like it looked like there was you know, his face was like it made him look uglier.

1:52:47 Speaker 2: And again like how they shot that, I saw like a behind the scenes thing where he's something like he's laying on the gyro and then you know, like the rack around scene.

1:52:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched the whole thing. Yeah, so that for the audience, like.

1:53:01 Speaker 2: They so then they wrap around the sky as he's flying by and they blow wind and whatever in his face. So although didn't they see g as eyes or something? No, No, James gun He related, he released he removed the shot I remember now. He removed the shot from the final from the final card changed it. Yeah. Oh no, there's one shot where in the original trailer Can hits him on the back of the head, and they changed that shot to change that, and then they changed the one of Superman flying where he looks like his cross eyed.

1:53:34 Speaker 2: They got rid of that shot.

1:53:35 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, but James Gunn confirmed that there was no c G. I in, there is no CGI used on David gordanswhen in those shots of him.

1:53:43 Speaker 2: Flying helicopter shot and a physical wrap around on the actual screen, why, I thought it was awesome. I was like, that's that's actually like better than you would have got from Man of Steel and Steel was good. But that was all CG.

1:54:01 Speaker 1: So yeah, very very CG. But uh anyway, yeah, back on uh, back on track here. So tonight uh we covered uh Alex Jones and the Court's ruling against his appeal. Uh for the one point for I think it's billion dollars settlement and you know the inevitable bankruptcy of Info Wars and Alex Jones. I think that would pretty much cause it. Uh so there's a huge, you know debate about, uh, what happens next for Alex. We also covered uh, some weird drama with Alzando and how that took place and the date that Age of Disclosure will debut, what its theatrical run will bring, and why they've chosen the route chosen.

1:54:59 Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you wanted.

1:55:01 Speaker 2: To not especially I do want so anybody listening, obviously, if you're listening to the audio, this is a very visual show, so we highly advise you come over to YouTube or x or rumble. I think that's where we are and check the well. Yeah, I had another thing I was going to say, and I've totally forgotten it. Yeah, scan the QR codes, hit the like button. Oh that was it. If anybody in the chat, anybody listening or watching, is going going to go physically to a premiere showing of Age of Disclosure, let us know.

1:55:43 Speaker 2: We love to the interview.

1:55:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be great.

1:55:46 Speaker 2: I'd love to talk to somebody that physically.

1:55:49 Speaker 1: It's pretty d C and l A very fitting. That's a smart choice for d C obviously having a lot of people in d C in it. That's pretty smart move. And it's like it's also meant for that marketing kind of. It's like it's definitely used marketing wise. So that's gonna be cool to see it finally and see what it has to offer. Uh, last question, do you think it will move the needle at all?

1:56:20 Speaker 2: The needle is a lie, that's my answer. Where can people find you? Tyler?

1:56:27 Speaker 3: Oh?

1:56:28 Speaker 1: God, Well, you can find me on X Disclosure pod or search Total Disclosure. Look for the red ufo on any platform like YouTube. The podcast is on any podcast platform, so you're gonna just search Total Disclosure. All the wigs are in the description below. What about you, Cary? Where can they find you?

1:56:51 Speaker 2: You can find me on the internet at Fires of Truth.

1:56:53 Speaker 1: Waiting for a cub.

1:56:55 Speaker 2: I was waiting for a cube.

1:56:56 Speaker 1: Okay.

1:56:57 Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna go out Where can they find you? But it's okay, you can find me.

1:57:04 Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, yeah, I didn't think it was that loud.

1:57:08 Speaker 2: That's very loud. You find me on Twitter at Fires the Truth. You can find me moderating the chat in the truth Seekers Discord or the Truth seekers show. If you like documentary films, there is one on Amazon Prime or two B or Apple TV called Dark Alliance The Inside Story of the Cosmic con Go watch it. I had a huge hand in the in the making of it. I made it with Darcy Weir. I narrate it, and I have a cameo. Very cool. There are there's two versions, but they're the same. They're the same thing. There's there's you can watch it in episodic form, or you can buy it as one long flow with just the credits between one and two cut out.

1:57:54 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I watched it as a wonner.

1:57:59 Speaker 2: Right. Well, the reason we did that is because Amazon TV doesn't like TV shows like the way that the algorithm works. Amazon Prime Video doesn't like TV shows. They actually like films way more.

1:58:10 Speaker 1: So.

1:58:10 Speaker 2: That's why we recut it because it was it got it had like no visibility in the algorithm because it was it was like a self published TV show as opposed to a self published movie. Well, yeah, we just redid it.

1:58:23 Speaker 1: Darcy also released the past.

1:58:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's again I was like, why did you do that? I think that's why After that release, I think that's why we we pivoted away with because I mean, I don't know. I don't know yes or no with that. But I assume the reason that we that Dark Lights one was recut and re released as a film was because the visibility of the series is series series.

1:59:00 Speaker 1: And that because Dark Alliance, you know what, that's kind of I need.

1:59:04 Speaker 2: To I watched the Pascal Google one when it came out. I need to rewatch that because I remember it being pretty good.

1:59:10 Speaker 1: Is there a trailer for Dark Alliance that we could show? I don't think we've showed it, yes yet on the show.

1:59:16 Speaker 2: Come on, it's on the IMDb page.

1:59:19 Speaker 1: Come on, pull it out. I have an im We'll pull out on that. I have an IMDb page too. Come on, let's get real.

1:59:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, you worked in Hollywood. I'm a country bumpkin from the UK. I shouldn't be here, dude.

1:59:34 Speaker 1: Anyone is a filmmaker. If they pick up a camera, just go make a movie. Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do.

1:59:45 Speaker 2: So. I would love it if anybody watching could go and check out this film that I made with Darcy.

1:59:51 Speaker 1: It's actually really good.

1:59:52 Speaker 2: It's like I had a lot of fun. It's like four years. That's great.

2:00:01 Speaker 1: Gaya and the cybersuckers are the dark forces.

2:00:04 Speaker 2: All right, So my clients are not the dark force.

2:00:06 Speaker 7: No, But I would say to those of you that are supporting him and helping him to defend himself, what's he defending himself from? Who is the dark side? Because see, if you really look at it and dissect it, no one is suing Corey. He's the one suing everybody. Nobody's suing him.

2:00:31 Speaker 1: Who is the dark force? Who is the cabal? Yeah, the cab?

2:00:39 Speaker 3: You know. He said things like I couldn't couldn't believe, to be honest with He told me he was talking about twenty and back and bases.

2:00:47 Speaker 1: On Mars and the moon and all this, although none of that was in his book.

2:00:51 Speaker 3: I do believe that there was an information contamination.

2:00:55 Speaker 6: I was contacted by Roger Ranso or Roger Richards, who at the time was Corey Goods business partner manager, something to that effect. I believe he contacted me in about March twenty seventeen. I think if you look up sensational in the dictionary, you'll probably find David Wilcock's face in there. Like it is kind of like a cult cult tactics, cult like behaviors that are going on around that group.

2:01:26 Speaker 7: So I called Corey and I said, Corey, I'm calling on behalf of David. How much of a percentage is David gonna get? Corey said to me, I'm not giving David a percentage.

2:01:39 Speaker 6: Corey literally called himself the Enoch of our modern times. And David claims to have all these insiders and they propped themselves up to be these larger than life personalities.

2:01:50 Speaker 7: Hundreds of people have been on Guya having different TV shows and different personalities. Have any of them turned around and sued Gaya nobody, but we're good.

2:02:01 Speaker 1: David is going to lead a con conversation to raise our classes.

2:02:05 Speaker 2: To Bill William Popkins.

2:02:09 Speaker 3: I forget the name of the company that created the sky net in the Terminator films. He said he started Cyberdye years before the Terminator film came out.

2:02:21 Speaker 6: Jesus, let's go back to the beginning. I first met Corey and David. Well, let me back up a little bit from there.

2:02:28 Speaker 1: So I.

2:02:35 Speaker 2: Urke alliance. So so I see someone in the chat going, oh my god, haven't seen this. Please go check that out. That's something that I worked on for a long time. I wrote a large majority of it. I know rated it. Please go and go and watch it. Watching it back at the beginning, I was like, wait a minute, I remember that's actually the old version of the trailer. I rescored it within the Hall of the Mountain King. I have it somewhere. It's so much better. But that's not a bad trailer by any stretch of the imagination.

2:03:09 Speaker 2: But I remember there was I had to do some work and rescore that trailer, so I added in the Hall of the Mountain King and it fit perfectly. It was like such an inspired choice, and I wish that I had shown that version because it was a lot more upbeat than the the cult thrillery vibe we got from them, which is still accurate to what we did.

2:03:33 Speaker 1: Well. I think overall, that is actually a pretty pretty great trailer for Yeah.

2:03:41 Speaker 2: It's a great trailer, and it does you know, someone said it did the great job for the first six months, and it really.

2:03:48 Speaker 1: It really is like it's almost like one of those Netflix documentaries about a cult. It's just this also has to do with the UFO, and it's primarily based on the like the clear vacuum that this topic occupies of people's lives. Because it's everything. It's it becomes like a religion, right, like it's it's your reality, and people get so vested into these these narratives. And again, I think that's one of the fundamental problems here, is like we're dealing with such a complex and it's crazy to think about we're dealing with such a complex phenomena and you think that like like the top minds and beyond it, and you know, we're talking about like life after death, what happens?

2:04:48 Speaker 1: What is the soul? Like these New Age kind of like questions and like the things that we all wonder, are we alone in the universe? What happens after life? I mean, what happens through death? Is there afterlife? They're old questions, but like the New Age perspective on it and the old old perspective on it are similar, but two different worlds. Well, it became religion back then, like it morphed into modern day religion, and like now people look at it, they're a little bit less religious, but they're they're more spiritual.

2:05:32 Speaker 1: But then they are, you know, the ones that like to talk about like living in the astral plane and like traveling to like other planets for the galactic federation. That's also comes with the territory. It's like we there's the smartest people, but there's also the most gullible people.

2:05:52 Speaker 2: Well it's a spectrum. You've got serious research all the way down to religious appeasement.

2:05:58 Speaker 1: Right, But like what I'm saying is advanced mathematician, Like you're going to your community is going to be advanced mathematicians.

2:06:07 Speaker 6: Right.

2:06:08 Speaker 1: It's just the UFO community allows for like really really like intelligent people, but then it's also susceptible to people that want to take advantage of others and on their their their want to believe. That's why it's like it's it's cutting edge of of philosophical of like every it's the most important story, right, but it's also the most flawed.

2:06:35 Speaker 2: And I saw you actually you posted a comment on my post about this exact problem about that being no established metric, and my my comment about it was more geared towards So say you debunk a video and like you can very much prove that that was key framed whatever, and then the next day ten accounts will post that same video and go oh my god, a UFO and they get like two hundred thousand views and if you call them out like oh, I'm just asking questions, man, It's like that, it just makes the value of debunking a video pointless, absolutely pointless.

2:07:09 Speaker 2: When unless you it's funny actually that I said this in the post, like, unless unless you go on Joe Rogan or you've got your own massive reach, then it's pointless. And then today it's funny. I said that because then today I saw a video. I actually had it ready to share, but we haven't got time today.

2:07:26 Speaker 6: Uh.

2:07:26 Speaker 2: If someone went on Joe Rogan and said that the hell fire video was real, and I'm like, this is this is exactly what I'm fucking talking about.

2:07:33 Speaker 1: Well, Luna Luna on Danny Jones was like, when he asked her what the most like incredible thing that she's seen, she said the hell fire missile video.

2:07:44 Speaker 2: And I was like, she has no understanding of parallax.

2:07:46 Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck? Why would like really the hell fire missile video. You couldn't have picked anything else. You had default to the latest thing, which is clearly like has its issues.

2:08:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, but because it's currently even the.

2:08:04 Speaker 1: Gas station guy that knows me as the UFO guy, because we have the studio here, and the gas stations right there, so like the studio is visible, and uh so people know that I do the podcast and they're interested in it. And uh there's actually one guy I want to bring on because he's like in a Buddhist monk as well, and he and he works at the gas station.

2:08:26 Speaker 2: Is like A.

2:08:29 Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, I don't he really doesn't. No, yeah, I guess you could say that, but the guy is so interesting and every time I have a conversation with him, it's like the deepest conversation I've ever had, and it's a I was like, dude, I gotta bring you on the show.

2:08:44 Speaker 2: Get that man in the in the in the seat, d.

2:08:46 Speaker 1: So as it said, as it as it stands.

2:08:50 Speaker 2: When I'm you know, well, okay, here's my question, and then we'll lend on this question because I think it's it's good for the audience to think about. So you're talking about how there's like these New Age beliefs and these extreme beliefs surrounding surrounding UFOs and whatnot, So I have a question. Generally, our idea of what a UFO craft is has evolved over the years, as in line with our own technological understanding. Yes, So like back in the fifties it was flying sources and boomerang type shapes and it was.

2:09:32 Speaker 1: Cigar eighteen hundred airships.

2:09:35 Speaker 2: Right, So like that connection there leads me to think that there is some kind of perceptual aspect to this where it's like it exists on the fringes of what we think is possible as a collective consciousness, not to say to new age, but like collectively, what our vibe is, what our technological level is, what the extreme level of our imagination. I mean, now we're in the future, so it's all orbs, and it's all non non Euclidean shapes and warping orbs and all this stuff we don't really hear about physical craft.

2:10:20 Speaker 2: Even the tic TACs of the tic tac craft is a smooth, oblong shape. It's no longer like mechanical sources or anything like that. So I feel like, what's the next step. That's the question I've got is what's after orbs? But what's after orbs?

2:10:40 Speaker 1: After orbs?

2:10:41 Speaker 2: I think if we keep following this concept, this this like process of it kind of evolving as we evolve our scientific scientific knowledge of the universe, what's what's after? That's that's my question, and I'm gonna end on religion.

2:11:02 Speaker 1: Religion is just a cult plus one hundred years.

2:11:04 Speaker 2: Yeah.

2:11:05 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan has actually like a a really good bit about this, and he says, to some degree, he says, what is the difference between a religion and a cult? And he said, well, the only difference is there's that

2:11:24 Speaker 1: the one guy that made it up and knows it's bullshit is dead. That's the only difference, right, the guy that that started it was.

2:11:36 Speaker 2: I mean, scientology is an example. Hubbet dies and becomes religion between within like three years, Miss Gavage manages to like, the war is over, We've beaten the I R S.

2:11:51 Speaker 1: So it did take one guy that knows this bullshit and then he dies and it comes to religion.

2:12:00 Speaker 2: Right, isn't that what happened with Joseph.

2:12:02 Speaker 1: Smith scientology, with with the with like the Jonestown well they didn't get like but it was all headed like the cults. The cult side of it you can see was there right, like the Jim Jones side of it. But also in scientology they have the rigidness of.

2:12:24 Speaker 2: You know, well, Jim Jones charismatic psychopath.

2:12:28 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just like it's just repackaged like scientology could have could could you know, like I put it in the same bracket as all that stuff. But it's just like more organized and you know, like the Christianity.

2:12:49 Speaker 2: But the thing, the thing with John Styne is once Jim Jones was dead, it didn't like expand it didn't go, oh, he's dead, let's create fifty more Jonestownes.

2:12:59 Speaker 1: Let's then there's like Heaven's Gate that was like literal UFO cult. Yeah it's Marshall and if if if AI keeps going the way it's going, then there's going to become like I could see a time where what's next is people form religion around the alien beings, this this idea of aliens instead of like God. I know, and that's what I mean.

2:13:27 Speaker 2: Like this that's the New Age is a new religious next that hasn't reached the level of being a bona fide religion. In some cases, it's reached a cult level status in certain insular groups, but as a whole, the New Age is very fractured and splintered, so it can't reach that kind of crescendo moment kind of thing. Thank you, Jeremiah. I hope you check out the film. I hope you enjoy it. So keep your minds open and doing the Lord's work. They just misspelled that that lords the Lords.

2:14:04 Speaker 1: Thank you, We thank you for the for the for them.

2:14:07 Speaker 2: Praise the cash is just I want to see you here next Thursday.

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2:14:45 Speaker 2: Get so I can being an asset?

2:14:50 Speaker 1: What's your clearance level?

2:14:54 Speaker 2: My level is river Moon coffee.

2:14:58 Speaker 1: Coffee? No, what's your clearance level?

2:15:01 Speaker 6: Get a.

2:15:04 Speaker 2: Bradley Whitford just sent me a message. What the fuck? No, we did, literally did. Bradley Whitford. Thanks for the love and support. What is my life right now? I'm a massive west Wing fan. If this is real, I'm gonna die. Just look, I'm checking this on there. Let's look, I want to know Bradley Whitford, the actor. You've never heard Bradley Whitford. Am I losing my mind?

2:15:29 Speaker 1: Yeah?

2:15:31 Speaker 2: I just got to check this because if that's real, I want to I want to be like, hey, oh my god, it's real. I can't even get to his profile from his chat. What the fuck?

2:15:39 Speaker 1: Well? I would like to wrap up and eat all right, So alright, I had a great Sorry time, I had a great time.

2:15:46 Speaker 2: Me too. Sorry for that random distraction at the end. But when when you get.

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