"DISCLOSURE WILL RAMP UP BY JULY"-PASTOR BRIEFED ON INEVITABLE 'ALIEN DISCLOSURE' | Ft. Bishop Alan Didio

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1:26 Speaker 2: Welcome back to total disclosure. Everyone. Tonight, we have a guest who's been making some serious ways, not just in the Christian world, but across the entire UFO and disclosure community. Joining us today is Bishop Alan Dido of Revival Nation Church. The Bishop had a radical encounter with God at just seventeen years old and instantly transformed him from a dogmatic atheist into a passionate follower of Jesus Christ. After Bible College, he spent over a decades serving in full time ministry, including overseeing and International Prayer Center, traveling the world preaching the Gospel, and in two thousand and four he founded in counter ministries with a clear mandate who awaken believers and equip the church.

2:12 Speaker 2: He has carried that message of Jesus to nations including Pakistan, China, Israel, Haiti, and Guatemala Guatemala while reaching villiads war through his teachings and media platforms. But what brings him into the headlines recently, especially here in the UFO and Disclosure space, is something a little bit different. He is one of the people who publicly confirmed being part of this private meeting other church leaders and these individuals eating deepenings to intelligence and government circles reportedly warned that disclosure of non human intelligence is on its way in one form or another, and that the people in the church needed to prepare the people because it could challenge their onto logic, biblical understandings of reality.

3:03 Speaker 2: So tonight join us as we listen to the first hand account of what really you was shared in that meeting, the spiritual implications discussed, and how Alan believes the church should respond to the topic of on human intelligence. And this is total disclosure. Apparently, I I needed to practice my my saying in Guatemala. But Bishop, it's it's it's really great to have you on the show. You know what I didn't ask you previously was how do you pronounce your last name?

3:43 Speaker 1: Ah?

3:44 Speaker 3: Yes, the everlasting eternal question. It's did Oh. But I've heard of everything under the sun, So if there's any type of stutter I did, then I know you're talking to me and I accept that I receive it.

3:56 Speaker 4: So a valiant effort.

3:59 Speaker 2: I heard that or that, I was like, oh shit, I Forart to ask him how how phonetically we said this? So I was like, I'm going to take a show.

4:07 Speaker 3: That means of it means of God. So when you get it wrong, it's kind of like blasphemy, but not not really. It's between you and your God. Just just say a little no, just kidding, But DIO doesn't mean of God.

4:20 Speaker 4: That deal.

4:22 Speaker 2: Well, that's really interesting because so you went starting kind of at the beginning here, Uh, you were an atheist at one point, you know, in your childhood. How did it go? I want to hear that encounter of how it went from you know, being really like a dogmatic atheist to someone who's reaching the Gospel and made his life mission to do.

4:45 Speaker 3: So that's a yeah, that's a wild story. By the time I was seventeen years of age, i'd been in jail twice and I had convinced myself that I was an atheist, although today I say there's no such thing as atheist and I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. But the there's a lot of people who purport to be atheists, and being raised in the buckle of the Bible belt one of the reasons I claimed to be an atheist and I had no desire or passion for religion, especially Christianity especially and the reason for that is because of the Christian atheist that I knew.

5:18 Speaker 3: A Christian atheist is someone who claims to believe in God, but they live like he doesn't exist. And that testimony of that hypocrisy was enough to convince me that if God was real, it certainly could not have been the Christian God. But at seventeen years of age, you know, I used to give speeches in class attempting to disprove the existence of God. I thought I was pretty smart. Turns out I'm still not that smart, but certainly wasn't smart. At seventeen, I had a radical encounter with Satan as well as with Jesus.

5:48 Speaker 3: And that's one of the reasons why I say, concerning the UFO discussion, you know, we may be late to the conversation concerning UFOs, but we're not late to the conversation concerning non human intelligence and concerning the Supernatra. And I had a radical encounter that transformed my life and just had a complete shift and gave my life to Jesus.

6:14 Speaker 4: You still there that I lose you. Yeah.

6:18 Speaker 3: At seventeen, in being invited to a church that I didn't want to go to, I went to a youth gathering and in that youth gathering, I had an experience where that voice inside my head that I had been listening to my entire life, that voice that was telling me, you don't believe in any of this, you need to stay away from this, get out of here, you don't want anything to do with Christianity. That all of a sudden, I won't go into the full story, but it became audible, and I heard that voice, and I immediately recognized it as the voice of Satan, or the voice of some sort of demonic entity, and I knew immediately what it was.

6:49 Speaker 3: It's like the Wizard of Oz when God, when the Toto pulled the curtain back. God pulled the curtain back for me and showed me who was really doing the talking, and that there's a lot of people across the planet, around the world who think that they're making these decisions, they're thinking these dolls, not realizing that thoughts can be injected or suggested to the human mind from nefarious entities. And of course, realizing that it was demonic, I knew, well, if Satan's real, then Jesus is real.

7:15 Speaker 3: And I said, Satan, you can't have me anymore. Jesus I'm all yours, and that's how I gave my life to Jesus.

7:22 Speaker 2: You know, it's very interesting. I was I would consider myself deafly not atheists, by the way, I think. I think you're probably right in saying that that I don't think anyone on the planet even really wants to be atheist, because I mean, it's so it's so definitive, right, yes, And the world that is not black and white. Far from it. To think that it would be so simple as life, death, black before, black after, and that's it. It just one thing the universe isn't. And this is something I've always felt in my heart.

8:06 Speaker 2: The universe is not wasteful. I mean, it's it's simply not. And you know, whether you choose to call the forces of the universe God or you know, whatever gets you through the higher power of your choosing. You know, I've this sober for six years from drinking, and that's a big part of it because we congratulations, Yeah, thank you. I really appreciate that. You know, six years also the time of the amount of time I've been doing this show. So this show saved my life.

8:40 Speaker 3: Wow, you know, and what a six year, what a wild six years to quit drinking. By the way, if you're going to start drinking, it would have been the next the last six years. But yeah, it's amazing and you found your purpose.

8:54 Speaker 2: I found my purpose, and you know, it's really all. And my audience is gonna be like, dude, if you tell this one more time, we're gonna lose my mind. But my mom, she took us to church. And the reason I say that bring up my views, I'm not gonna say what I am. I don't. I just don't like to bring that into it. But my mom brought us to church, and one thing she would never do is put a She never forced us to do anything that we didn't really want to do. So she brought us to church a couple weekends in a row, and then she asked me, my sister, do you guys want to go back?

9:25 Speaker 2: And we both said no, and we never went back. We never went back with her. I think we both found our way back separate to that, but she allows us to go explore and to find our way to make the mistakes to not you know, because a lot of parents they'll force their views and their kids. But I think that's what with the UFO topic, too, keeps the stigma alive. It's really it sucks, it really does. So I mean I was I think I was a special case where I didn't have something forced upon me. I wasn't told I had to do this, I had to do that.

10:06 Speaker 2: It was go find your own way, go answer the questions you want answered. And I'm here with today.

10:14 Speaker 4: So yeah, a similar story.

10:16 Speaker 3: You know, we didn't really go to church growing up unless there were Christmas points set as or Easter lily is decorating the hallway, you know, And so I didn't really have any Bible knowledge or any and I think that aided me because even as a claiming to be an atheist, I had lots of questions that I wanted answered. And just because I gave my life to Jesus didn't mean I didn't have questions anymore. I still have that analytical side that one of these questions answered. And I feel like that any search for truth or any religion that is true cannot shy away from hard questions.

10:49 Speaker 3: If we're just going to say you just need to believe, you should just have faith, you know, even when you don't understand something and don't ask those questions, we'll find out when we're in heaven. Well, you know, maybe there are some things that we'll find out when we're in heaven. But we serve a God who answers prayer. We serve a god. If he is the God of truth, then he doesn't mind us pursuing truth. And so I've always been analytical in that way. Even in regard to this subject matter, alien's UFOs UAPs.

11:13 Speaker 3: I've always been aware of it, fascinated by it, interested in it. About three years ago I started doing deep research into it from the from the role of a skeptic. You know, I'm a big fan of The X Files, and the show would not be good if there wasn't a Scully.

11:28 Speaker 4: Molder, the true believer.

11:30 Speaker 3: That's great, but you've got to have the Scully in there, who's asking hard questions, who's pushing back. And I've always been kind of that way, even in this meeting that we're going to talk about today. So I think that's that's really valuable.

11:42 Speaker 2: So let's I guess let's start with that with the elephant in the room. You were one of the people that were brought into this private briefing meeting with other church members and leaders. Can you walk through exactly what happened, who was there, what was presented, and what were you told about some sort of incoming disclosure on a non human intelligence.

12:04 Speaker 4: Yeah.

12:04 Speaker 3: I was quoted in the New York Times. How wild is this? I was quoted in the New York Times as saying, that's the strangest meeting I've ever been a part of in my life.

12:12 Speaker 4: And it really was.

12:14 Speaker 3: And there are people who get upset and say, you're sensationalizing. To me, there's no way to sensationalize this because it's sensational all by itself. You don't have to do anything to it for it to be sensational. But to start with, there were two meetings that, at least at the time when this went viral, I was aware of, put on by the same individuals, and the first I was invited to both. The first one it sounded kind of weird, my schedules full, so I decided against it. The second one we were in Nationale, Tennessee at the National Religious Broadcasters Convention, which is amazing.

12:47 Speaker 3: Thousands of Christian leaders and content creators gathered together from all over the world, and so you have people in a room that you would never have in a room together at the same time. Anyway, lots of friends and acquaintances that we would never get to see one another. We're able to reconnect, fellowship, catch up. And a mutual friend whose name is Tony Merkle. He runs the Confessionals podcast, which is phenomenal if you're interested in UFO UAP stuff. And this is that's his that's his stream, and he loves Jesus and but he loves getting into those weird subject matter from cryptids to alien abductions to anything like that.

13:22 Speaker 3: He's just and he does it beautifully, very knowledgeable, and he knew these two gentlemen. Now, these two gentlemen who put on this meeting, we're calling them a group of private Christian investigators and operators who have had extensive experience within the government. They are not actively government representatives or government officials, but they are actively investigating the government and they have sources within it. And it's very difficult to describe what they do. But they wished for their identities to remain anonymous, So coming out of the meeting, the only reason it's been called a secret meeting is because of their identities remaining anonymous, and hopefully in the future, one or both of them will be able to come out and tell their story and identify themselves in their extensive experience.

14:09 Speaker 3: And one of them really is an American hero. When I met him at NRB, we discovered that we actually knew one another. We had communicated in the past, and I knew him This is a real warrior, This is a real American hero, and I knew him to be sincere. I know that he loves Jesus, and I know he believes what he's been investigating is a worthwhile endeavor. So that's the reason why I agreed to go to this second meeting. And even on the way there, a friend of mine, we communicate with one another, saying, are you sure you want to go to this meeting?

14:38 Speaker 3: Because this is kind of weird with this alien disclosure. You kind of turn your phones on airplane mode. So we go into this off the beaten path neighborhood. The street lights appear to be out. It's just this long dark street. You approach this rented small airbnb with a host of rented SUVs because you got a lot of visiting pasths and ministers just jammed in the parking lot and as you approach it. You have to turn your phone on airplane mode. And there's now a three hour slideshow presentation of what these gentlemen have uncovered in their investigation.

15:15 Speaker 3: And they weren't there. Again, they're not government. If this was the government telling us this is what you need to say, I wouldn't trust the government any further that I.

15:23 Speaker 4: Can throw it.

15:24 Speaker 3: They were saying, here's what's coming, and you need to just simply go back and teach the Bible to your people, make sure your people have a strong biblical foundation. But they were concerned that and this was the big news. This was what really convinced us. As the days went on, this was legitimate. They said, disclosures coming immediately. It will begin as a drip, drip drip, the government discussing talking about officials saying aliens non human UAPs UFOs are real, and then it will ultimately culminate, possibly by July in an official disclosure, if not before then.

16:00 Speaker 3: And brother within it was within I think days before this meeting, Barack Obama came out and said, oh, they're real, they're just not in area fifty one unless they're hiding it from the president as if you know that's an impossibility. And then within hours of our meeting, within the same day, Trump comes out and addresses that, saying Obama released classified information and then there was verification from that point on leading up to the historic disclosure that took place beginning May eighth, and it's a process that began on May eighth.

16:33 Speaker 4: So that's kind of the gist of the meeting.

16:37 Speaker 2: Well, okay, and so when he that person's people they're giving in this brief and they say that you need to start teaching the Bible, you know the way it was. What's the wording there that they chose to use, because what aren't you doing now or what isn't the church do now that they should be doing to prepare people.

17:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're treating this as let's say, for an example, a major cult was coming into a pastor city and it was very convincing, and thousands of people were going to potentially buy into these lives if they weren't prepared with answers. And that was simply their goal. That there are many in the church who may not have a grid for this, they don't even know how to process this information that may maybe they're easily manipulated. There are people within the church that will not be moved by this.

17:35 Speaker 3: I mean solid Christians, people who followed programs like ours, who talk about these kinds of things regularly and dive into the supernatural.

17:42 Speaker 4: They're not going to be moved by anything.

17:43 Speaker 3: I mean solid believers across all denominations, who read their Bibles, who pray, who are active within their church community. They know what the Bible says. None of these things that could come out are going to be shocking. But they're concerned about people who were in the pews but on the fence as well as you know, people were trying to evangelize. We want to reach for the gospel, and they may be convinced by a lot of the narrative that comes out. So if we can just get to them first, it's like raising kids, you know, if you can talk to them about a subject first, before you know, the worldly teacher gets to them, or before they get it from TV or from music, you can help frame the narratives so they're able to process it.

18:21 Speaker 3: I was on timcast and Ian mentioned this Ian's my favorite, and he mentioned that if he sees something that's going to come out on the news that would upset his mom. He will call her ahead of time and like frame it for her so that she won't be upset by it or kind of deceived by whatever's in the news. And that's really what their agenda was, because these two gentlemen love Jesus, they love the Church, and they're like, I don't think the church. There's not a lot of churches talking about the supernatural, not a lot of churches talking about end time deception, and there's not a lot of Christians who think this is worthy of conversation.

18:53 Speaker 3: This whole alien ufo uf thing. That's fringe stuff. I mean, that's sci fi stuff.

18:58 Speaker 4: That's the joke.

18:59 Speaker 3: There's no reason we need to talk about that. And as a result, many Christians will be unprepared for whatever will drop.

19:07 Speaker 2: Right, right, And that's actually you know, one of the things that people talk about in the disclosure community is this ontological shock, right, And having seen a craft when I was younger, there is a period of time where, you know, because I do consider there was a life I had before I saw what I saw, and a life I had after I saw what I saw both times, because the first time was the craft. The second time was with my mother when she passed. The moment she passed away, I saw this or be in the room with me, and it just kind of left the room.

19:51 Speaker 2: And then when I looked back at my mother, she was gone. And her death date is four three to one, So, you know, sh I wasn't happy at the time, like I still needed to find my bearings. I was freshly sober, and it was almost like her way of like pushing me back on track and re sparking my I for answer. So unfortunately, the day she took her last breath, you know, uh was it is a moment that I often have to think about because something I don't know if it was real, but I know what I what I saw and what it made me think and made me feel.

20:35 Speaker 2: So, you know, getting people ready for that, I think is a is a noble thing. It sounds like the people who delivered this breathing or this meeting, I should say they were doing it because no one else would.

20:50 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, yeah.

20:54 Speaker 2: And are they saying that that the that the US government, I was a little bit unclear on this part. Are they saying that the disclosure that's coming is going to be framed in a way that is like is it's not real. That isn't the whole truth.

21:13 Speaker 4: You know.

21:14 Speaker 3: They what they did was is they set up several potential narratives. So they went through because I think even in my research in this, I think the the government, corporations, whatever the powers that be that are in control, follow the money, right, follow the follow follow the greed and the lust for power. Whoever is controlling the narrative, they're going to attempt to put forth. Just throw things against the wall and see see what will what will the American people digest? Even if what we're dealing with, and a lot of this disclosure is real, how do we frame it?

21:47 Speaker 3: And how much of it that's real do we share? How much of a lie do we share? And they're gonna they're going to try to use this, of course, to advance their own agendas. So they actually much of the time in the meeting they shared with us different front faithcing ufoologists, if you will, or spokes people that you often see on the news, and they're saying, Okay, here's this person's background, here's what they believe. And you know, one of the interesting things in this meeting was that they said the United States government operates in such silos that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

22:17 Speaker 3: And as a result of that, you have certain segments who truly believe one thing, while others who truly believe something entirely different, and they have no idea what the other is doing. And so who knows what cream will rise to the top, what narrative will be the one that sticks, Which is why we need to be prepared for it by simply grounding people in Bible truth. And what that means is Christians need to know that non human entities exist in the Bible, that the supernatural is there, and the Bible says that even Satan can show up as an angel of light.

22:50 Speaker 3: So appearance can't be what moves us. Appearance should not affect us. What should affect us is the substance of what message these things bring. Troy Brewer who often says, you know, we talk about a lot of crazy things I do and many of my ministerial friends do, and we do a program together called the Counter and it's basically like a bunch of pastors sitting around the ministers talking about X files type stuff, and the whole purpose of it is to raise support to rescue kids out of human trafficking.

23:16 Speaker 3: So we have a lot of fun with this conversation for very serious calls. And in fact, these operators who are doing this work, who held these two meetings, there's an aspect to their investigation that involves human trafficking, which is why they wish to remain anonymous until they've completed their investigation. And even to add to this, by the way, I know there's been a lot of confusion. Perry Stone came out with his video and people are saying, well, so and so said this, and so and so says that.

23:43 Speaker 3: So Perry Stone's operating off of secondhand information and he's as far as I'm concerned, he's correct in what he communicated.

23:50 Speaker 4: There were two meetings.

23:53 Speaker 3: One had representative Burlison calling into one of those meetings, that was the first meeting, and the second meeting did not have a representative calling into. But even with that, we're discovering that there have been other meetings going on put on by other operators or individuals, and we don't know who they are or exactly what they're shaying. So we're actually looking into that now trying to figure that out. So something is happening where there's a ground swell, it seems of Christians who see this coming down the pike and are saying, Okay, we've got to prepare the church for this conversation.

24:23 Speaker 2: Right. And Eric is a good friend of mine, the representative, Yeah, he sought me out and we've been good friends practically ever since. Bircht and a few, yeah, a few others, but they're a little bit more polarizing. So that's we keep it on the you know, because I tried to let that the part lines affect yes, right, because well we don't get into that.

24:53 Speaker 4: We don't have time, all of us. Right, this should be, it really does.

24:58 Speaker 2: It's the only top I've seen in the past five to ten years, maybe even longer that is completely utterly nonpartisan and continues to be throughouts throughout its journey and as throws. I think people be this is one of those topics, I mean, what we're dealing with, and I think a lot of people forget this, Like you know, when when we're kids, we have a couple of questions, what happens when we die? Are we alone? This is one of the few fundamental questions that affects every single person equally, whether you're it doesn't matter your race, religious sex, creed, any of it.

25:42 Speaker 2: It's you when you look in the mirror, your place in the cosmos, in the universe, in this vast place we call reality, It's going to be what it what it means to you, and how it changes you to know that you know, non human intelligence exists, and it has probably been visiting this planet. And there's a good chance that our ancestors may maybe misidentified some things as gods when they were actually extraterrestrial. And I want to talk about this. In your book Summing the Demon, you explore connections between AI aliens and the Antichrist.

26:29 Speaker 2: Do you believe non human intelligence could be connected to biblical concepts like fallen angels, nephilim, democ deception, rather than say, physical extraterrestrials from other planets.

26:41 Speaker 4: Yeah.

26:42 Speaker 3: Even the investigators who put on the meeting, that was their main point that they believe that a lot of what we're seeing is falling angel technology. Of course, if you take out ninety percent of what we're seeing is military technology, right, ninety percent of that is what we're seeing is military tech. And you also have misidentified natural phenomenon, You have social contagion. You have to factor all of that in, But there is that sliver of these things that are supernatural, if you will. Now, I think one of the biggest mistakes the Western culture of the Western Church has made in this culture is separating the spirit from the natural.

27:16 Speaker 3: And we we ask when we see these things, well, is that spiritual or is it natural? And often what we're asking is is it real or is it imaginary? Is really what we're asking is it? Is it tangible or is it you know, wispy or ethereal in some way, And we have forgotten that spiritual things are tangible and can be tangible. Even when Jesus appeared to the disciples after his resurrection, they thought he was merely a spirit, and he proved to them that he was not a spirit by eating with them. So that's that was that was That's jesus theology on how you prove some things not merely a spirit.

27:52 Speaker 3: But if you take that, then back to Abraham and he sits down with angels, and what do they do? They eat with him, so angels can show up in a natural form. And then you mentioned I think you referenced the Genesis chapter six where you have angels in rebellion to God come down and mate with the daughters of men, creating a race of giants. So not only are they natural enough to have some sort of relations with human women, but they give birth to something that is entirely different. Could part of what we're seeing be this nephilum, this hybrid spiritual natural entity that is just as real and tangible as you and me in the earth.

28:32 Speaker 3: Could there be advanced nephelum civilizations that have advanced technology. All of that is within the biblical purview. So when we say, as Christians, and a lot of Christians will say, it's demons, it's demons, It's just demons. Even the Vice President came out and said aliens. I know, I think they're demons. And what they're saying is an oversimplification. What they mean is demonic. That's what they mean. And by demonic you get all these things from fallen angels demons. Even if you want to say demons are disembodied spirits of the nephilom or nephilum, actual hybrid beings.

29:10 Speaker 3: They could be a hybrid of technology mingled demonic technology mingled with human biology, cursed human beings. This is another one nobody ever talks about nebucan Has are cursed God, and he was literally turned into a beast for seven years. And so there's a lot of things within the biblical purview of what these things could be. So when we say demons, what most Christians meaning is just simply demonic, but certainly they're not benevolent. And that's kind of the warning we want to bring to this conversation because you have people like Stephen Greer, who I think truly believes what he's saying.

29:46 Speaker 3: He truly believes what he's saying is done extensive research, and there's some great research in what he's done. He thinks these are benevolent beings that we need to communicate with, and that fundamental Christianity who thinks these things are demonic are a threat to galactic peace.

30:00 Speaker 4: That's m hm.

30:01 Speaker 3: So could that be part of the in time deception?

30:04 Speaker 4: I don't know.

30:06 Speaker 2: And the one thing I've always actually I've been told this by other UFO researchers and media people, is anyone who's telling you it's all all and they have a PayPal link, turn around, walk away, get get as far away as you can. No one knows the whole truth. I mean, no one understands exactly every detail. And so when you use definitive statements like they're all benevolent, right, if they're all advanced past this idea of you know, acting in whatever in different self interest, whatever it be. If if that's what you're saying, you know, Steven Greer, I hate to break a tea.

30:53 Speaker 2: I just I don't. That is a very naive way to look at But also we can't say they're all demons either, right, Like you see what I'm saying.

31:04 Speaker 3: I think I think the Christian community is not unique in this area. It's social media, it's people in general. We are allergic to nuance and so we try to simplify things is as easily as we can as make it as digestible as possible. And the problem with saying it's just demons is people process that as a spiritual entity, that it's purely spiritual, and so what is going to happen then when they're confronted with real tangible entity, how are they going to explain that that going to affect theology?

31:34 Speaker 3: So that's why, yeah, you're right about that, what we do want to be cautious about. So when we When I talk about people attempting to make it too complicated, I'm not referring to how complicated it can be scripturally on what these things are. I'm referring to people who say, well, these things are actually benevolent and they're here to help us. And I think that's when we need to we need to watch out because in my research, these encounters with these entities always turn always turned bad, always turned really yeah, eventually.

32:06 Speaker 2: Tell me more. I mean, what do you what do you mean? What are you referencing here? People are coming to because I mean, you are who you are, right, So if I was someone who watched followed you, and I had a story, I would come to you, right, I would relay my story to you because you're someone I trust. You know, you're someone I listened to preach the gospel. If I am like religio, If I am religious, is that what we're talking about or are you talking about any personal experience?

32:39 Speaker 3: Well it started when I when I first began in ministry, I wasn't a preacher. I was a prayer So I ran a prayer center and I just prayed for people eight hours a day.

32:47 Speaker 4: What a job.

32:48 Speaker 3: By the way, what an honor too, to be able to stand in faith with people and partner with them in some of the most sensitive areas of their lives. And to start with, I began and I prayed for more than one hundred thousand people like that, one on one, not crowds, just one on one with people praying with them. And in that time I began to encounter people who had abduction stories and abduction experiences, and at first I thought, you know, these were just people who were unstable, until they began to pile up and align at the same time, across cultures, countries, creeds, denominations, races, it didn't matter.

33:27 Speaker 3: Their stories were just very, very similar, which which got me to be interested in the subject matter. And then twenty seventeen we had some disclosure took place. Twenty twenty. Of course, in the midst of that mess, they came out identifying these things as yes, these things are real, and nobody batter than I. So I really began to dig into this then. And of course when I released the book Something the Demon, it was like it gave people permission, as you said, to come talk to me. And it has been wild hearing these people's stories reputable people, sometimes people that everyone would know and recognize who there's a stigma attached to this, and so they don't want to come out in public and share these stories.

34:08 Speaker 3: But in each and every one they have many and varied experiences. But if they continued, it all turned really dark, really bleak side effects and the alignment. I even have a chapter in my book something that eme it about the comparison between alien abduction stories and stories of demonic possession, and it just it just overlaps almost seamlessly when you really begin to dig into those things. So, yeah, that's kind of been my journey in discovering this.

34:36 Speaker 2: These beings are real and they're visiting Earth by means unknown to us. How should Christians discern whether they represent genuine extraterrestrial reality? I actually you might have already answer this in a way. Interdimension interdimension entities are something more to say, like a trickster demon gin with a cultural name you want to give it.

35:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, it that's kind of The Catholic Church was having a conversation similar to do we baptize them or do they baptize us? You know, And it's it's an interesting it's an interesting it's it's the funnest conversation to have around the dinner table. But ultimately, I think Troy Brewer says it best. He says, the question isn't exactly what they are, because that's going to be a fun conversation, and who knows if we'll ever agree. Even if we saw a video of them on the White House, even if we saw with our own two eyes, how do we know it's not AI?

35:28 Speaker 3: How do we know it's not some sort of robotics? How do we know that what we're seeing is actually real? So the question isn't really what are they? The question is whose camp are they in? So are they in the Jesus camp or are they in the are they in Satan's camp? What message are they bringing? What do they say about Jesus Christ? And it's interesting many of them come uniquely with a message. They've come all the way from many star systems and galaxies and just to tell us Jesus was close but no cigar.

35:57 Speaker 3: Well that's that's a red flag. That's a red flag to me. But I think that is dividing line. What do they say about Jesus? That'll be what determines their mission.

36:06 Speaker 2: That is something I don't think I've actually ever thought about before. And it's crazy that you say that, because if oh my, I'm having like an existential moment right now actually thinking about this, because my God, if they came down and they said that Jesus was the way, I think I'd have to I'd have to be like, you know what, Jesus is the way. Jesus, Jesus is the way. But if they came down talking about Satan, I'd be very concerned. Ah, that's an interesting thought experience.

36:42 Speaker 3: Well, again, earlier Satan comes down as an angel of light, so he can change it.

36:47 Speaker 2: He was an angel of light, of course.

36:50 Speaker 4: And he can.

36:51 Speaker 3: He is technically, yeah, he can, so we see we see his description is interesting in the Bible that at first, when he is this anointed cherub that is a guardian of the presence of God, and he seems to have some role here on the earth, that even within him he's got musical instruments in his inner parts, that when he moves, it appears that even music flows out of them. And yet then when we see him in the Garden of Eden, he appears as a serpent. And then when we see him mentioned in the Gospels, he can show up as an angel of light, so he is able to change his appearance.

37:24 Speaker 3: Where we say appearance matters, doesn't matter. What matters is what is the message that's being brought? And if it is, Jesus was close, you know, he was one of us that could be what they're saying, and he was in tune with a lot of our message. But really what the real truth is, Well, then I'm out, I'm out.

37:43 Speaker 2: Right. And then you know what, I wouldn't blame you a point out. I just know that's I mean, that's a real ponderous question or thought, thought process. I guess maybe that is the what the briefing even boils down to, is these underlying questions that we really haven't thought about because we're so caught up in Look shiny object, right, Look this new information. Look this exciting cutting edge. But is it really exciting and cutting edge or it's been talked about and warned about in almost every culture across the globe, because I mean, there seems, at least to me, throughout history, almost every ancient culture has a story of gods right coming from the sky, They interact humanity, they maybe create or even influence civilizations and then they leave and they'vew to return narrative.

38:48 Speaker 3: It's the Nephila narrative that we see in every single culture, where these beings come down from come down from wherever they're coming down from, and there's these hybrid individuals that have supernatural capabilities, supernatural power, and that all stems from Genesis chapter six. We see it a second incursion. Somehow it happens again, and we have David and Goliath. We have the children of Israel trying to go into the Promised Land, but there are giants in the land. So this is this is consistent throughout scripture, and you see it, of course in the in the hybrid gods of the of the Egyptians.

39:21 Speaker 3: You see it in the mind culture. You see see this hybridization take place. And it's interesting Jesus predicted, as it was in the days of Noah's so shall it be in the days of the coming of the Son of Man that at the second coming, the conditions will be similar to when Noah was alive. And of course when Noah was alive in Genesis six, you have that hybridization taking place, these beings coming down, people becoming infatuated with them the giving birth to a race of giants. So there's some kind of genetic manipulation that's going on and just mass corruption.

39:51 Speaker 3: And here's the telltale sign men's hearts were evil continually. It wasn't just that men's hearts were evil, because we're all born in and we're shaped in iniquity. But it was the proximity of the evil thoughts in their minds that there's not even a moment of relief from evil. You're always thinking evil, and we're getting closer and closer to that, by the way, with devices like this, where we're just we're just constantly being inundated. But as it was in the days of Noah, which by the way, interesting when you look at nineteen forty eight, which is a fascinating year, you have a coarsination of Israel being reconstituted for the first time in two thousand years.

40:29 Speaker 3: In a day the Bible says, shall a nation be born in Today the gavel comes down in the inter nations of the inner Chambers of the United Nations. Israel becomes a nation. At the same time the Dead Sea Scrolls are being uncovered. I've transferred back into the possession of the Jewish people, And at the exact same time, you have an earthquake in the mountains of Ararat that uncurvas what we believe to be the ark of the Covenant. So all as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the coming of the Southern Man.

40:57 Speaker 3: I think that's just the beginning of the signs, as if God stopped watch started to take the count.

41:04 Speaker 4: In that moment.

41:05 Speaker 2: Right, what do you what do you make of you know, this narrative. I'm sure you you heard Steven Spielberg, you know, his film Disclosure Day just came out and he was saying how it's going to challenge uh people's religions. I mean, what do you make of comments like that? And then how it really doesn't it didn't really follow through, Like I don't think that movie will challenge anybody's faith. But there is a much larger conversation there obviously. This that's what this briefing is about. So do I mean, I just want to hear it from you.

41:47 Speaker 2: What what do you think we are dealing with here? And do you think that the United States government is in possession of any of these these craft that they that they used to move around out.

42:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe they are. I believe they are. And Grush just came out over the weekend as a matter of fact, yes, stating more in regard to disclosure that he has seen. Normally, when we hear these stories, it's I know, someone who told me we're getting, you know, more than second hand information, David Grush says, I've seen these photos myself. I'm aware of the wreckage. I've seen it with my own two eyes. And this is the issue now. One of the things that came one of the reasons why this is so difficult to get people to come forward.

42:33 Speaker 3: And this is what was shocking in the meeting that I was in, that they shared with us that in order and you know this, in order to get around for your request, in order to get around oversight, the United States government will actually create and operate through corporations separate from the government, so they're extent from those things. But here's even the more nefarious part of that is that true American heroes will go to work thinking they're working for the United States government and they'll be involved in things, potentially illegal activities, thinking that this is what the government has asked them.

43:06 Speaker 4: To do.

43:07 Speaker 3: And when they push back and they decide I'm not going to do this anymore or I'm going to blow the whistle. They find out then that they actually weren't working for the government. They were working for a corporation. Therefore whistleblower laws or protections don't apply to them, and so now they can't say anything unless they implicate themselves in the process. So it's very murky, very murky. It's a stranglehold scrub, it is, for sure.

43:34 Speaker 2: It's a way of bottlenecking the truth and really, like you said earlier, compartmentalizing and putting it into a silo where it can't escape from. And you know, when we start classifying reality, like imagine the government came out and said that, you know, angels didn't exist, or demons didn't exist, or God didn't exist. Like that's not their place to do, you understand, You see what I'm saying, Yes, you can't. That'd be like saying you know, and maybe not exactly like it. That's like passifying as a zebra, right or an alligator.

44:09 Speaker 3: I like alixator because that reminds me of these entities because people think that benevolent.

44:14 Speaker 2: Alligator right, right, no, No, it's it's hungry or it's that it So what do you what do you make of like topics like the Book of Enoch? Why why was this left out of the proper Bible when it could it could potentially open up that conversation and have it had opened up when it could have, it could have informed it could have informed us for many, many years at this point in getting us ready.

44:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the.

44:52 Speaker 3: Book of enic is a fascinating to read. I encourage every Christian to read the Book of Enoch. But there's such a mixture. Enoch is a sit of pigarful book, meaning it's a book claiming to be written by Enuch, but it wasn't actually written by Enuch. It was written, you know, century centuries, centuries later, maybe three hundred we're thinking maybe around three hundred BC, particularly in regard to the three paragraphs that we have from the Dead Seas culls confirming the existence of such a book.

45:18 Speaker 3: So it's hard to tell what Book of Enoch where people are referencing, when they're referencing, where did it actually come from? And how much of it is myth versus how much of it is true? So when you're looking at the Book of Nic. It was never considered to be scripture, never considered to be scripture by the Jewish people, never considered to be scripture by Jesus. He never references it. In fact, he's after he's been resurrected. When he's talking about himself to the disciples. The Bible says he goes from Moses all the way through the prophets.

45:47 Speaker 3: Well, if he was including the Book of Nich, it would have said he went from Enoch all the way through the prophets. And when you look at the Decalogue, for example, or the Word of God that was included in the arc of the Covenant. If the Book of Innuch was hail as divine inspiration, it would have pre existed Moses and it would have been included. Now, there's no question that the teachings of Nich, the life of Enich, the story of Enich, was passed down through the generations. We see that, of course through the writings of Moses as well, and there were probably additional teachings that were passed down.

46:17 Speaker 3: So he was probably revered. He probably spent three hundred years with Adham. Think about that. Adam lived to be nine hundred and whatever years of age. Enoch probably spent around three hundred years with Adam, and he was a prophetic voice during his time. And so a lot of people try to claim Enich. You have Enoke in magic. I think many in the Mason Mason community attempt to claim him as an originator. But the Bible has some interesting things to say about him. But the Book of enic was never considered actual inspired scripture.

46:46 Speaker 3: It was more considered, oh, here's kind of the myth, the legend surrounding these stories. What's will what's not? We don't really know in the Book of Enuch. So that's the reason why it was never really included in scripture. But it is to know what they were talking about back then and how they thought about these things because they had access to this writing.

47:07 Speaker 2: Almost like supplemental rather than the main. The main thing that makes I'm comfortable with that answer it something I've been thinking about a lot, and for anyone watching right now, three, I'm kind of just like skipping through and hitting a lot of main points. Is we only have an hour, and we're already at that like almost that hour mark. So I'm going to get him back. I'm going to get the bishop back on for a long form conversation. But this is kind of hitting all bullet points you brought up AI.

47:39 Speaker 2: A lot of people have been talking about, even guy like Joe Rogan have made the comparisons between say a Christ and AI and this idea of like immaculate conception. Do you what's what's your gauge on on AI? And you know whether it's demonic or from from from Hell or like some people claim, what's your take on AI in general?

48:13 Speaker 3: Well, Christians are always late adopters, you know, when the TV came out, he said, look at those Look at that antenna, that's the horns and the cable, that's the table devil. It's demonic. Yeah, everything's demonic. And as a result, we get behind the eight ball and we're not able to use it for the glory of God. So we're always we're always asking the question, how's the devil going to use this thing? And we never asked how does Jesus want to use this thing, you know, for the glory of God? And people will say, well, the Antichrist is going to use it to advance his agenda.

48:37 Speaker 3: I agree with you. He's also going to use guns to advance this agenda. But you're not taking mine either. It's just a tool. It's just a tool. And even if it was demonically inspired, we have a pattern throughout history. Goliath and the giants of Gath, they had advanced technology over the nation of Israel, in their in their iron, in their swords. And what David did is he and sheath glias On's sword and separated his head from his shoulders. He used enemy technology against him. Hayman in the story of Esther built gallows in order to destroy the people of God, and in the end he was hanging from the gallows he created.

49:14 Speaker 3: So God has a pattern of taking what the enemy creates and turning around and using it as a weapon against the enemy. When it comes to artificial intelligence, I don't think there's any question that it is going to be used for nefarious purposes. But until then we need to be using it to advance the Kingdom of God. But when we think of here's an interesting thought I had just the other day. Six six' six, right, that is the number of the beast. Yeah, the mark of the beast. Those numbers three, six's six represents humanity, three represents perfection.

49:46 Speaker 3: So what we're seeing is the peak of human achievement. That's what the Antichrist will be.

49:51 Speaker 1: He will be.

49:52 Speaker 3: He may even be some sort of Nephelum type entity with maybe he's got an early adopter to neuralink and he can appear to be supernaturally. You even will be supernatural, but even appear to be with technology. But six sixty six, what that means is peak human achievement. What is going to happen as a result of AI? We have reached officially, this is my prediction, peak human achievement. What is going to happen the moment you're no longer driving your own car you have AI assisting you. Well, within a few months, are you going to be a better driver or a worse driver?

50:24 Speaker 3: Well, you're going to be a worst driver. And that's going to be the case for so many things. We have reached the peak of human achievement and now it's just going to start to go downhill because we have AI doing our thinking for us.

50:38 Speaker 2: Just like you know, people used to peep. I know, you know, I might look young, but I'm thirty thirty three. I lived in a world pre Internet. People used to drive with no GPS, people used to remember phone numbers and then and actually you weren't even really allowed to use a calculator in math alone, you know whatever they're using now, like my little brother when he was in high school, like they were letting them use their phone in the internet in school, like at their desk, and it's like we were.

51:12 Speaker 2: We were barely allowed to use a T nine calculator on a map. What do you and now everyone all that information? I can't remember a phone number to save my life, I can't.

51:25 Speaker 4: I couldn't get forget map quests.

51:27 Speaker 3: I had the you know, the big unfold I had to travel across the country with big maps that you got to unfold and get hoped.

51:33 Speaker 2: That was my dad's a mover, so he had every one of those books because he was like.

51:40 Speaker 3: Jack Sparrow navigating the nation with the map.

51:47 Speaker 2: It's so good. Do you think is it possible? I know it's no one knows when the end of times is only they say only God knows the exact moment or the exact time. But looking around, I can't help but think, and maybe everybody thinks this way. If the Bible is correct in saying that there will be an end of times, I look around, and I see the world on fire, people more bided than ever. You can't trust what's real or not. So many other things. I mean, I could list them on and on and on.

52:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're exactly right.

52:32 Speaker 2: Does it not? Yeah? Does it not? Is it not reminiscent at least of what the Bible says in terms of the end of time and what it might look like?

52:43 Speaker 4: Yeah?

52:43 Speaker 3: I wrote a book called They Lied to You About the Rapture, which I was concerned with people in my own camp and I'm a believer in the Rapture, but they were misrepresenting it. So heineously, I thought, we need to address this, and as I researched it, one of the most shocking things I found was thirty five to forty two percent of Americans believe we're living in the last days. There's not thirty five to forty two percent of Americans that are practicing Christians, so there's a large swath of people who believe we're in the en times.

53:08 Speaker 3: And even more shocking, I believe it's eighteen percent of agnostics, nine percent of atheists believe we're living in the last days.

53:16 Speaker 4: So what is that?

53:17 Speaker 3: It means that they're picking up on exactly what you said. Everyone regardless of their background, is getting this sense that this is not normal what we're seeing, this is not natural, this is not normal. That's evil. And so people are beginning to ask this question. And I think that when you see what we mentioned earlier, this confluence or this convergence of what appears to be Bible prophecy being fulfilled, from the Nation visual being re established, Noah's art being rediscovered, a whole host of prophecies concerning the Nation visual all falling into play.

53:49 Speaker 3: It's hard not to say we could be the generation and people mock and scoff at that. But even one of the prophecies that Peter gave, he said, there will come in the last day Scott for saying, Ah, every generation said.

54:01 Speaker 4: Everybody said that.

54:02 Speaker 3: And so when you start to talk about this, people say, yeah, every generation said that. And my response is you're right until you And now we have this mass mocking of the subject matter, which I think is fulfillment a Bible prophecy itself. So I do believe we are living in the last days. I think it's one of the most consistent commands in the New Testament. Twenty two times explicitly it says you better watch for be ready, be ready in any moment. Jesus could return at any moment, and I think we're in that any moment period.

54:33 Speaker 2: Do you think the Antichrist is honored at this moment?

54:36 Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe he's alive right now.

54:37 Speaker 3: Of course, I believe he's the Satan always has an Antichrist because Satan doesn't know the time or this is. He's always trying to accomplish this mission. So he's always got someone or in place. Yeah, he's always got candidates that he's trying to put in place. But there's something holding him back. There's salt and there's light. Salt holds back decay. Light holds back darkness. So every time he almost accomplishes it, the light rises and overcomes him. The salt enters in and holds back the decay.

55:08 Speaker 3: But there's coming a time when that salt, that light will be removed and he'll be able to do what he's desired to do from the beginning.

55:16 Speaker 2: Well, last question. Megalic structures around like the Age prove Ballbeck Turkey. They show technology and precision that some say is just simply way beyond human capability at the time. Do you see any biblical or spiritual connection between these ancient achievements impossible non human influence.

55:40 Speaker 3: Well, of course, the narrative is we're getting smarter and smarter, right, Humanity is evolving and we're getting smarter and smarter and smarter. And these these structures, these ziggurats, these megalithic structures, are proving the exact opposite that we have advanced technology. Not only that they had beyond their ears, we don't know how they did it. Even to this day, we don't know how they did and built many of these structures and moved many of these stones and placed them with the precision that they placed them.

56:08 Speaker 3: So I think that shows that proves the biblical narrative, even when you go back to the Tower of Bible where you see this construction attempting to build a portal to heaven. So yeah, I do think that this could be evidence of advanced intelligence and that human beings are always attempting to partner with it, even at the cost of their own souls. You know, they told us that the government operates in these silos. Some believe that these are benevolent beings. They truly do believe that that we should partner with.

56:37 Speaker 3: But then there are others within the government think of this, who believe these are demonic, that these are demons, but they are still willing to partner with them in exchange for influence, for money, for power.

56:48 Speaker 4: That's what we're dealing with.

56:50 Speaker 2: And well, look at like the Epstein stuff, exactly right, and these are separate conversations. No they're not. And that's the dirty true that no one wants to get into. A lot of people in the UFO community don't want to touch it with a tempt pole because it's so dark and and and dirty. I hate to say it. The look at what he was interested in? Gravity? Why did he have all these scientists, Why was he hanging around Why was he hanging around the ranch at the at the ranch trying to pick up scientists who lost their funding?

57:27 Speaker 2: Why? Why why is it that Glene macdwell Uh had a these Norwegian Nordic looking assistants and their hair would consistently disappear from the dreams in the shower? What what is it that that was really going on? Because obviously the child stuff that was that was obviously one aspect of it. But what was large pit, what was the larger pad, What was his what was his achievement? What did he want to see happen? I think some sort of I mean I can't pretend to know, but I can't imagine it was it was going to be a good thing.

58:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a traffic element to this that causes an overlap something. That's where these entities want to experiment on human beings. Some say that they see us as vessels. Some researchers have said that they see us as vessels. Others say what they're actually experimenting on is our soul. Others say they're creating these representative Matt Gate said, there's these hybridization programs.

58:32 Speaker 2: So do you think they do that work among us? Yeah, and to let us let our guard down, let these things, let these things into some degree.

58:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. And it's all a distraction. It's all a distraction. Look over here, don't pay attention. There's no god. You're not accountable to any god. Actually, there's no god, alien seated life on this planet. So we're not accountable to any creator for our behavior. We just our lineages. Actually them, and they'll show us the way. They'll show us right.

59:04 Speaker 4: With them.

59:05 Speaker 2: Morality is a choice being, but is a choice right, It's not something that is necessary Once that's off the table. I mean, that's a scary thought. Bishop. I'd love to have you back on. I know we have a very short limited time today. If there's one thing from the thank you, there's one thing from the briefing and the meeting that you that you could that we didn't touch on that is there something that you want people to know that isn't getting a lot of attention.

59:37 Speaker 3: Just that the Bible has the most interesting and true narrative about this subject matter. And I want to encourage pastors and church leaders. Number One, we need to fight for disclosure. We need to make sure even if you know, even when we get disclosure, we're not going to get everything that we want, but we need to fight for it. Number Two, pastors need to begin preaching and teaching from their pulpits what the Bible says about these entities and about the believers authority. And I don't want anybody listening to this to be fearful.

1:00:02 Speaker 3: We're not saying this to scare you. We're saying this to prepare you. When we talk about the end times, I don't want you to be. I'm not trying to sensationalize or fear monger it because if you're if you trust in Jesus Christ, the end times aren't happening to you. You're happening to the end times. It's completely inverted. And so the real message is who are you trusting in? And are you trusting in Jesus for your eternal salvation. If you'll do that, you can have peace even in these turbulent times, and victory and authority in the name of Jesus.

1:00:29 Speaker 2: Wow. Well, like I said, I'd really love to have you back on for a proper you know, like a long form maybe even fly into Boston. Uh, sit down in the studio. Yeah. I have a lot of questions. I mean I have a lot of real, real questions about you know, like, well, for Jesus, how do people get into heaven? That kind of stuff, stuff that if I get out of church, like they won't talk to me anymore. When I introduced the idea of you know what I mean, so I have I'm a very natchal curious person and I do have lots of questions and you know, exorcisms like I'm what ever seen you know, have you seen one like, what does it look like?

1:01:14 Speaker 2: What does it sound like? You've you've seen them, you.

1:01:18 Speaker 4: Have performed hundreds, hundreds.

1:01:20 Speaker 2: Oh all right, we're bringing you in.

1:01:24 Speaker 4: I will for one hundred thousand people.

1:01:27 Speaker 3: You encounter a lot of stuff, a lot of stuff, especially when around the world as we have.

1:01:32 Speaker 2: Oh man, I have so many questions now and I've now I'm hyped up. But where can people find? I know you do? Uh? You you do the internet? So you have uh an internet based mystery that you preached through.

1:01:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a church in Charlotte, North Carolina called Revival.

1:01:52 Speaker 2: You have a mortar too though, Yeah.

1:01:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been pastoring for nearly a quarter of a century, been in full time ministry for a quarter of a century.

1:02:00 Speaker 4: And we have a website.

1:02:01 Speaker 3: We have a strong online ministry and reach tons of free resources. But you can go to Revival Nation dot com even in a store. We've got some free books. And when you go on the website Revopination dot com, there's even a section on the homepage there with is all kinds of alien UFO, uIP information, teachings, articles, stuff that you'll be blessed by.

1:02:20 Speaker 2: So check it out, all right, and uh to everyone listen watching Thank you. It's a bit of a shorter segment, but again I have now I really really want to keep going. But we'll we'll we'll teasey here, we'll end it here. We'll definitely be hearing more from the bishop. And I really thank you for taking the time tonight. I know you have another show you get to jump on, though. Thanks again for your time and for your service, your service. It's you know, I know we didn't get talk about it a lot, but you know I havn't been InCAR.

1:02:53 Speaker 2: You know, found your way. I think that is such a beautiful story just by itself. So uh, you know, you give people inspiration and you keep their inspiration alive on a daily and that is service with no guarantee, and I respect that no matter what religion it comes from. So thank you and do you everyone out there, We'll see you on the next one.