'I was Briefed On UFOs & Non Human Intelligence' - BONUS EPISODE FEAT. Charles McNeal
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Speaker 1: Di I occasionally think how quickly our difference is worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this work. And yet I asked you it was not an alien force already among us.
Speaker 2: We must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsolved by the military industrial compact. The potential or the disastrous rise or misplaced power exists and will persist.
Speaker 2: Now I am become actorial world in my association with Project Group.
Speaker 1: They definitely withheld information and shall be twere for tess when you're about.
Speaker 3: To give us the truth, the whole truth and the truth.
Speaker 4: So help you, guys, Do you believe that our government is in possession of the agents?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 5: Welcome everyone to tonight's very special live episode of Total Disclosure Podcast. We're diving deep into one of the most provocative and discussed topics of our time, the existence of UFOs, alien life and the potential of covert operations within our government. Tonight, we have an extraordinary show planned. In recent months, many are stepping forward claiming knowledge of our government's involvement in UFOs and the beings that pilot them. The whistleblower known as Charles McNeil, or Truth Told twenty four on X, claims to have received to pull up to eight classified briefings on UFOs and alien intelligence.
Speaker 5: Not only that, but he's here to shed light on what might be one of the biggest cover ups in history, a possible stage alien invasion or false flag operation designed to manipulate global events. Charles McNeil has come forward with information and evidence that he says could change how we perceive our place in the universe, and it challenged the boundaries of what we believe about our own government secrets. We'll explore the details of these briefings, the nature of the non human intelligence he's been briefed about, and the shadowy figures potentially collaborating with these extraterrestrial entities.
Speaker 5: Get ready for a mind bending discussion where we seek truth, challenge skepticism, and hopefully uncover some of the mysteries that have long been kept in the dark. Without further ado, let's welcome Charles McNeil to the show now. He is calling in now.
Speaker 6: From regular to the reserves, all the way to special Forces. So I had an Air Force soldier was my counselor, and well, by the way, Richard Doty just mess as me said, he's literally on a plane flying back from DC.
Speaker 3: He can't make it.
Speaker 4: So's just so, you know, so so uh, basically.
Speaker 3: I had that kind of threw me off. So basically.
Speaker 6: I had this counselor that was in the Air Force and we're out on the field up two weeks filled up on the Appalachians trail and he's staring up at the stars and he's like, you know, what do you know about that up there? He starts telling me stuff. I don't think it's real. I don't know what to believe.
Speaker 3: I have no idea.
Speaker 6: I know my mentor was retired Air Force intelligence but I knew that, but I don't know what this all means, you know, So I let him talk.
Speaker 3: I graduated program coull weeks later, went home.
Speaker 6: I see my mentor. This is where interesting see my mentor. And oddly enough his name was Rick, but they called him work anyway. His COVID name was Robert May. For anyone listening from Air Force and telling us, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: So he he asked me what a mentor always asks you, you know, when he come home from something like that.
Speaker 6: He said, well, did you learn anything, you know, basically going to stay out of trouble. So I thought I was gonna be a smart ass, like, yeah, I learned that your Air Force set twelve soldiers delivered one another planet back in the nineteen sixties, and it was called Project Crystal Night. And he grabbed a hold of the front of my echo bubble cope.
Speaker 3: And he pinned me between the door.
Speaker 4: And the seat, and I had dawned on me. I knew something I wasn't supposed to know. And we're not talking two thousand and seven, eight and nine when this stuff was getting leaked. We're talking two thousand and three. This wasn't leaked yet. This wasn't out yet. You know, very very few things have been said publicly about anything to do.
Speaker 6: With SERP though, And that's what this was. Project Crystal, next Project Sirple, it's the same thing.
Speaker 4: So when that happened, he ended up dropping me back off at my house and saying, you know, what do you think about the information, And I'm like, you know, I know, I can't no more.
Speaker 3: I don't even want to get me involved, you know whatever. He said, I'll be in touch. Two weeks later he shows up. I go with him. He said, give him my word as a man, you know I would.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to start talking about this stuff if I if he ever does tell me anything.
Speaker 6: So I gave my word as a man. We ended up going oddly. Enough of us swear this is how crazy this is. He ended up taking me to a freaking motel caddy corner from the Flamingo restaurant on Route thirty in Fayetville, Pennsylvania. If anybody knows where that place is at.
Speaker 4: And we pull up to the room itself and I go in and he points in a bag on the bed and he said, you know, there's snacks if you get hungry, pointing at a colder on the floor.
Speaker 3: So there's refreshments if you get thirsty.
Speaker 6: Pointed at the at the bathroom, said there's a bathroom if you need to take a bathroom break. And he pointed at the chair, said are you reading? I said, I'm running, and he sat me down. The chair was actually facing the bed. In the back of it was facing the TV. And he went to the table and he pulled out a bunch of files out of these cardboard boxes. With Lizzie took off and he spread it about on the bed and he started handing me, you know, different files, and he's briefing me verbally as I'm reading these files and telling me what I'm meaning.
Speaker 6: This is six and a half hours and I'm seeing pictures.
Speaker 3: I'm seeing pictures of bugs.
Speaker 6: They brought back the Kingman Arizona craft that was actually ninety feet It actually had handwritten notes on the side of it said ninety feet and and just a whole breath of things that I actually got to see details of, the transcripts of and transcripts of this and just you know m J twelve files and you know, the final report with Carl Sagan's signature on it.
Speaker 4: I'm sitting here, like I thought he was a skeptic, you know, the whole time he was part of this whole thing.
Speaker 6: And and it was just insane. And it turned into not just two, not just three, They turned into eight total briefings over nine and a half years, and I thought they were illegal, off the books and all that, And then I recently found out last summer it was actually a very controversial program called Operations Society Hike with the United States Air Force Intelligence AFOSI and Richard Dody actually came forward and spoke a lot about it and about being briefed about me specifically, because a lot of that was countering espionage, counter terrorism stuff that you know, they were trying to get these guys that were rough and tough from the streets or whatever to go.
Speaker 4: Out and do these missions. But only a couple of us were picked for the secret space.
Speaker 6: Program, the UFO stuff, and I was kind of my handling agent, was my childhood mentor. So it's my position in Rick's position a few others that he actually included stuff he had no business including. So I have a little bit more than the other people that I guess are on missions.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 6: You know, I was terminated from the program when I was wrongfully acroncentrated in twenty twelve, So.
Speaker 3: That's how I know what I So what are you doing?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 6: It's funny you even said Harvard Grad because we were doing a space when Reptile Harbord was the host back I think it was in October or November. You can probably find that it's disclosure part too to my highlights somewhere.
Speaker 4: And Richard Dody came on and he talked about that, and he said, you know, they're not looking for when it comes to stuff like that and uh intelligence, counterintelligence and programs that are that clantestine, and they take years and years of grooming the individual the asset. They're not looking for a Harvard grad. They're not looking for a clean cut guy. They're a woman.
Speaker 6: They're looking for rough, tough, somebody who's not going to back down from a fight. This is his words, not mine. Not somebody's not going to back down from a fight, somebody.
Speaker 3: Who's you know, has no fears.
Speaker 4: Because they need you to be able to be programmed to go in and follow orders and know it doesn't matter if it's a one way trip, if it's a mission, you take the mode as you go, and it's more than you know, Patriotism can only get people certain certain lengths. When it comes to stuff like that. We're not talking to war, we're talking one man missions.
Speaker 3: We're talking stuff like that.
Speaker 6: And that's what this program was designed to do, was to grab people.
Speaker 3: That's why it's called operations.
Speaker 6: Society hikes to take people from different societies and find individuals through the vetting process of sharing certain things.
Speaker 3: That you know you would think you would, Oh, you can't share that.
Speaker 4: There's no background clearance being done on that individual.
Speaker 6: They are very good at this program, and it's still classified.
Speaker 3: You're not going to be able to find I mean you might.
Speaker 6: Maybe if you put a fully in, they'll just blacken all out and redactively.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you now. When he described it, it made perfect sense to me, But I still wasn't somebody they.
Speaker 3: Were going to just recruit out of the good.
Speaker 4: It wasn't until I came home and said what I said, letting him know somebody that was in Operations Society hikers an administrator out of Fort Dovue, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 4: I was unaware that he was even in that. So when I said, hey, look basically, I have a classified information.
Speaker 6: About a very very very huge project. It's it's no one's supposed to know about. He then made the decision to contact who he contacted a couple of weeks later and have me put into this program.
Speaker 3: Unbigknownst to me.
Speaker 6: I thought I was just getting illegal briefings and he was just my homie, like you, that's my local type thing. This mentor he's looking out and teaching me all this stuff. And the whole time he was grooming me for this program. And everything was going smooth.
Speaker 4: Even when I was being a knucklehead being in and out county and stuff like that, He find me and say, hey man, what are you doing, Like what do you get your head in the game, And that would always segue into eventually saying.
Speaker 3: Hell, look I'm coming buy anymore, and I.
Speaker 6: Got something to show and we know what that or hey I got let's take let's take a live we know what that meant.
Speaker 3: That meant briefing.
Speaker 6: So it was just if it wasn't a personal relationship I had with somebody that was an administrator in there, I would have never been chosen.
Speaker 3: I can tell you that it was happenstance.
Speaker 6: And even though they were looking for somebody of my calible will say, or my background, I still would not have been in a position.
Speaker 3: To be chosen if it wasn't for those circumstances. Yeah, yeah, you're not wrong. And that actually is a pretty.
Speaker 6: Good point because that's just the unclassified things that they used to do when they needed people for active duty or military service, or just to put you in the service and station you in Germany over there. I mean, I knew somebody in my family I won't say who it was, but they were given that choice. And this was back and they were born in the late forties, so this was back in the early sixties and the mid sixties. And they were sent to Germany to drive milk truck for for their army. So it's not like you had to see combat for that, you know.
Speaker 6: So that president is just something people know about. Can you imagine what that same exact mindset and president would conjure up in a Clan DestinE intelligence operation to do with the most secretive programs in the United States history. You're going to have them break rules, you know, they're going to think outside the box. And this is, you know, just the way of the world. This is how it goes like. I don't neither like it or dislike it or anyone else. It's just it's facts. I mean, it's how it is.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I basically, you know what I said a minute ago was the best explanation for it. It wasn't even supposed to beat me, even though I fit the profile for what they were looking for. But when I came home and I told my eventsor who was actually running it was an a senior field as for Air Force intelligence had a fourth Belview where they were running this program mat and he just happened to be on leave out in my area when I met him, and then he came back out there to find me. And when I said what I said, uh, you know, I'm telling him like, hey, I know about this operation.
Speaker 6: This is the name of it, this is what you did, and and his biggest operation ever in the history of the United States.
Speaker 4: And he's like what. So it was basically either do something to me or bring me in. And in my mind, he brought me in the illegally. I didn't know until last summer about the operation, and I found it extremely like it made more sense to me than what I believed my entire life, uh you know, and and it just it fit for me, and it really I really appreciated when Rick came forward with that.
Speaker 3: Okay, so.
Speaker 4: How it would go down would be it'd always be in Montell. It would always be somewhere he already purchased before we got there. It would always be somewhere where the keys instead of the key cards, even though in early two thousands, mid two thousands, even when they started incorporating.
Speaker 3: Them things and it's still.
Speaker 4: He still used regular his stuff, right still regular keys and I never really knew why it has, didn't care. And he would always say he would always have the same refreshments, cooler and beads and there you go here' are you writing the type of speech like, yeah, you can tell he was used to giving briefs and stuff like that. You can tell it was the whole military set up. So it would always be spread out on the bed and it would always be anywhere from five hours to the longest was just.
Speaker 3: Fun, almost nine hours, I believe. Can you still hear me?
Speaker 4: I just heardb then you know, subject or or whatever. And then sometimes he would bring other stuff from other famis and connect this and then new files on this world files connected city.
Speaker 3: It was. It's just so much.
Speaker 6: You know, a f O S I they have, they have access to all the different you know, Special Operations Command out of Macio.
Speaker 3: Air Force bases where all this is kept, and.
Speaker 4: They have access to d I A Reference manuals, not the ones that I'm talking about, the classifiles, and they have m J twelve Special Operations manuals and c I a UH Caretaker Reference manuals from.
Speaker 3: Group six and they have they have all this stuff.
Speaker 6: And then they have their own synopsises put together and all of different you know, all of it magic guys only from from nineteen fifty three on when it had to do with NJ twelve stuff or this subject under top secret code word Clarence, which is the clearest people don't even know exist.
Speaker 3: They think it's laid up. It's not.
Speaker 6: It's a whole rack of stuff that he was showing me all of it and briefing me on all of it.
Speaker 5: That's okay. So what happens, you know, what's your initial reaction to all of this, because it can't just be oh okay, Like at first, when did you realize what he was actually telling you? You know, he was in bullshit and this was actually serious stuff.
Speaker 4: Well me knowing him knowing how serious. Well, like I said, we had a personal relationship first, so I know it.
Speaker 3: I knew this man right.
Speaker 4: And so when he first brought me in there and he asked me if I was ready and he started spreading these out, I mean I was shocked and he was even including me, and then the shock turned into my body was shaken at first, like and you know how adrenaline starts to take over when you're like fighting as a kid.
Speaker 3: That's how it was. And it's like my heart was.
Speaker 6: Taking and just like I was explaining to my girl earlier about like when I first was in court for the first time, you.
Speaker 3: Know, like your legs are shaking and stuff. I was like really nervous because I don't know what the hell is going I don't know if anbody's gonna kick the door in. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 4: And then I just I started the calm. I started the calm.
Speaker 6: And after my first briefing, I felt like I couldn't speak for days and days and I couldn't tell anybody.
Speaker 4: And but then it was like living a double life. It was like I'm in the streets doing this and then I have this and like when somebody brings something up that I know is not real, it's like I can't say it. All I can say is are you sure about that?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: Or when I see a movie that's part of the public acclamation program and I'm sitting here like wow, oh time and told me to look for that right there.
Speaker 5: And.
Speaker 6: It was just you know, a whole once have I told you so a moments in my head And now I'm able to do a few of them probably, And I just I'm just trying to give the information.
Speaker 3: Out to the people. I don't, I don't, you know, I don't be on here and trying. I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't be on here begging people for money and stuff like I've had people who don't hate, you know, a couple of dollars here and there and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But I'm not on here trying to do none of that.
Speaker 4: I'm and I needed, but I'm not out there begging for you know, I'm just it's not about that.
Speaker 3: For me.
Speaker 4: It's about trying to get the information to the people so we can replace you know, what the problem is and stop what's coming, which I.
Speaker 5: Think is a very commendable thing of you. I really do. And if and if you're actually you know, and you know, the only one that that that is hurt by, you know, if you were not telling the truth is you, you know, because everyone else will eventually eventually find out. So I you know, I hate I hate how the community acts. Sometimes they're they're very quick to make snap judgments, and it upsets me sometimes because you know it.
Speaker 8: I think that we should hear everybody out and we should give everyone a chance to tell their their truth, their story, and then you know, you can make a direct apprehension all you want.
Speaker 5: You can believe or not believe. You can choose to share or not share. You know that that person's that person's evidence or story. What we shouldn't do is just quickly label things and throw the baby out of the bath water. And with that being said, I want to get back to some of the questions I do. I do want to say thank you for doing this. I know it's not easy, and like you said, you're in a you know, particular situation that's not desirable, but you're still here doing it, so it must mean something to you.
Speaker 5: I want to talk about the staged the false flag operation, right, So, how detailed were the plans for this staged invasion and who within the government or military was supposedly behind this kind of event.
Speaker 3: That was extremely detailed or a little bit of an echo all right, there we are.
Speaker 6: So it was extremely extremely detailed, and there was multiple documents dating all the way back to nineteen sixty and then again in seventy one, and very significant reason for that, and that's actually when the Space Force was formed. It wasn't formed under Trump, and it has directly connected to this, and it was released under Trump. Whether he knows that or I don't know. I don't know if he knows that or not. He might have been led to believe it was his idea the all the time. But either way, he takes credit and he needs credit.
Speaker 6: He needs credit for that. I don't take that from him. But the fact is it was formed because of what I'm telling you about. In nineteen seventy one, and then again in the late seventies there was another document. And I've said this way before. Anyone else has said this, but the recently ch Army Corbello has come forward.
Speaker 3: And I don't sit here and co sign a.
Speaker 6: Lot of stuff that he says, but that that's a fact. There is a document that talks about telling you a lie, telling you truth so you can then believe the lie. That's a fact, And the truth is aliens are real, Aliens have been here, Broswell happened.
Speaker 4: The lie is that there are a threat to national security and that they are on their lay.
Speaker 3: And the whole false I in.
Speaker 6: W is at the end of the seventy year contract we have with ETE, one extraterrestrial entity ie which from the Riders Star system. There's four diferent types of grades. Started in nineteen fifty four under the eysen Now administration by way of them JA twelve. That contract ran out September twenty fourth of twenty twenty four, and then that segues. Then we move into the next phase, which is three years with the Galactic Federation of Flight that they gave us in nineteen seventy one when Valiant Thora came back and formed a secret space program with the United States government and the MJ twelve and then through the United Nations Security Council the rest of the world.
Speaker 3: It all runs through.
Speaker 4: The magic which is AJIC, which is Military and Joint Intelligence Committee.
Speaker 3: It's completely classified.
Speaker 6: That's what Magic Eyes only stands for is them only and the eyes only that are cleared for that they've cleared or MJ twelve is cleared to view it. So that's what that means. And that has ever since that was formed in fifty three. That's who's been responsible this entire time, and it's worldwide and everybody asked, how.
Speaker 3: Could they get this country in this country to do this because.
Speaker 6: They've infiltrated them and when they don't play ball, or when they can't infiltrate them, they take them over and they kill the dictator or the president or whoever, or if they can't supplant who they need within that government, they replace that government.
Speaker 3: That's why all these things have taking place.
Speaker 6: So the point was to get everybody at their lowest point, get everybody down at.
Speaker 3: Their lowest possible morale.
Speaker 6: Start World War three in civil wars, hitting everybody against each other the straight Willialyns syndrome style, and then you know, put this against this, this against that, and oh, you divide and conquer.
Speaker 3: And then once you just think it can't get any worse, and World.
Speaker 4: War three and civil wars at its peak, they stage a fake alien invasion and you're like, why would they do any of this?
Speaker 3: Make Neil, why would they do any of this? Charles?
Speaker 4: Because that three year deal with Galactic Federation of Light is we have to have a.
Speaker 3: One world government by the end of.
Speaker 4: That three years, which is twenty twenty seven September twenty twenty seven. If we don't have a one world government, they leave. And if they leave, cbe four aka to traneloids.
Speaker 3: They will come.
Speaker 6: They're the only deterrent that keeps them from coming here. All the other species that are here, they're willing to go to war WI, the GFL, the Lacktic Federation of Light. There's thousands of words.
Speaker 3: They're deep. They are a deterny and we are part of that.
Speaker 6: That we have the insignia on our starships, the USS Hill and Colder and all that those are real USS Van of our Bush, those are real. So those have the insignia to be able to travel the stars and keep the trandelloids today. So they need to form a one world government.
Speaker 4: The only way in their mind, they're fucking sadistic minds, back from the nineteen sixties on, was to stage this.
Speaker 6: Fake alien invasion and make everybody on the planet feel like we have to come together to fight a common enemy. And that's what they're going to do, and that's what they're gearing you up for. That's why all these so called insiders and whistleblowers are coming forward telling you, yeah, aliens are real, but they might invade though. Yeah they're real, but they're a threat to national security though. Oh yeah, that roswell happened, but that species is a threat to national security. Though I wish everybody would go I wish the best Internet salutes or TV saluts would go back.
Speaker 4: Look at every single whistleblower that have tested fighting in front of Congress, given any interview, every Alexander interview, every every every interview that any.
Speaker 3: Of these st called inside of the blows have given, or testimony they've given.
Speaker 4: I want you to count up and even put a video montage together every single time they use the phrase threat to national security, and watch what you.
Speaker 3: Come up with.
Speaker 4: You will be amazed at what you hear, because they are drilling that home.
Speaker 3: And then these drones.
Speaker 6: This was a display that I told you was gonna happen months ago. And then what it is is alien reproduction technology mixed with regular technology. And then it gives you the panic, and then they snatch it back from and make you just.
Speaker 3: Wonder what was that or what the hell was that?
Speaker 6: That way in a little ways time, and there's gonna be some more events like that too in a little ways time.
Speaker 4: Then you think back and you're like, oh, the whole time, that's what was going on.
Speaker 6: And now it's too late. But the whole time they're not real aliens. They're called program life folks pls. We've been building them since nineteen seventy eight. The little grades, they're not your foes. They're ARV's alien reproduction theaterles with booting.
Speaker 3: Then we're starting with.
Speaker 4: Flying disc simulators in the nineteen fifties as we reverse engine your Kinging Arizona crash and the other rosbew craft that was still intactic we werecovered in forty nine. That's what we've been doing, and we're gonna use People call it glue beam. Gluebeam is just a piece, it's just a cognitive wheel. All it is is nast that's actually nasty NASA's holographic technology, and all that is is to make these as, to.
Speaker 6: Make one thousand ARVs look like ten thousand invading it with an entire arm out of this planet.
Speaker 4: That's it, and that's what all this is. All this isn't that briefing gave. What they have is called precursors.
Speaker 6: So when a certain event happens, everybody around the world knows.
Speaker 3: They don't need to be.
Speaker 4: Direct phone call communications or anything like that. Text they know when this happens, okay, phase two, when this happens, okay, next phase. So what we're looking for now. Some of the things have happened early, some of the things are behind schedule. So right now we're looking for the behind schedule movement be the James Webb telescope identifying biological and technological.
Speaker 3: Signatures in the same star system.
Speaker 6: Trappis one as in alpha men say, it was mentioned, and that date April twenty third May of twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: Three was also mentioned.
Speaker 4: And then you have ones that haven't been scheduled to happen until later on this year, which would be the Israel's Dome with the rock being destroyed on purpose, so that three different religions all beef with each other over who can rebuild it first to ushering you know, biblical time prophecy, so it starts that whole war that they needed the Middle East and and picking sides in all. This world stage is a fucking stage, that's all it is. So it's the real stage. Are you there?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 5: Shit, as mute, Sorry, So a lot of what you're saying kind of so, so it does it rings a little of of of kind of like what doctor Greer says.
Speaker 9: I just want to get your input.
Speaker 5: What are your thoughts on on doctor Greer's take and some of the things that he said, because a lot of it does line up with what you're saying. So I just want to I want to get your thoughts on him.
Speaker 3: So don't get me wrong, I love Greer. I do. I've never met the man.
Speaker 6: I mean, just like his veracity is coming forward. But doctor Greer only has about fifty percent of the information.
Speaker 4: Subject wise, he's not aware of or at least he's never publicly confirmed in a lot of things he said, you know, contradicts.
Speaker 3: He's never been made aware.
Speaker 6: That we have extraterrestrial allies working side by side with us at subterranean basis all over the planet. He's not aware that we have colonies already on a lot of these planets, starting with Little Montana on the Cerpo was they was started off as base camp for the eleven that made it out of the twelve that was sent. And he's not aware they had a lot of these abductions before the seventies or before the late seventies.
Speaker 3: They were alien. They were alien.
Speaker 4: They've been deducting peoples in biblical times. You know, MJ twelve didn't exist till nineteen forty seven. You can't sit there and blame the United States government in the Gobal as.
Speaker 3: It's called, or that deep status people call it. It's all MJ twelve. It's what it really is.
Speaker 4: You can't blame them for things that happened one hundred years ago, two three hundred, four hundred years ago, can't, you know? And he doesn't accept that just because that we were doing it, that doesn't mean they were not still doing it. We had a contract the film twenty two thousand Americans it ended up going up to and that was just Americans. There was millions worldwide. It was approved to be adopted, and that wasn't even the catching releasements.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: Who gave the order, who signed off?
Speaker 4: And that would be the Majestic twelve group in nineteen fifty four. MJ one, if I'm not mistaken, was Venevar Bush.
Speaker 6: And yeah, because he was MJ one before Dallas was MJ one, but he was after Forest though, So yeah, Vanovar Bush gave that word.
Speaker 5: So to think or a lot of people say that you know one of these, like you know UFO history lore things is a story that there was a landing at Holloman Air Force Base in which some extraterrestrials met with the president at the time, the president being Eisenhower.
Speaker 9: So is that not the case.
Speaker 3: Eisenhower.
Speaker 4: Well, he and his administration, which was MJ twelve with MG twelve was usually like Presidential Advisors and things like that, Scientific advisors and National Security Advisor and stuff like that. That's usually who they are or who they're part of. The Magic Committee MAGI committee. So the point is you can have the administration there and not half him there.
Speaker 3: I didn't see any evidence that he himself was there.
Speaker 4: That's why I always say Eisenhower by or per MJA twelve because I know it was that administration, but it was he did meet I'll say he has.
Speaker 3: In that administration, did meet with three different or yeah, three different species.
Speaker 6: Four different times total between nineteen fifty three, four, five, and six. Yeah, but that wasn't even what I was talking about with that, what I just met. That was from fifty seven to sixty uh, and that was all the way up into the Knickson administration and right when he left was nineteen sixty going into sixty one, and he came back in seventy one. You know, I said, Nix administration, I met this, Nixon wasn't. So that was the seventies. I said, the sixties. So the point is you had Eisenhower, and then all the way up to Eisenhower.
Speaker 6: When Eisenhower left he gave the speech he said he called them by a nickname that he gave them because they were classified. He couldn't call them by their real name, so they gave him, you know, in nineteen sixty one. I believe it was when he gave them that that that speech. So he was he was still president when valiant Or left, but right after he left is when the next president came in.
Speaker 3: And then all the way up to the Knickson and administration.
Speaker 6: Is why I mentioned that is because when Nixon was president in seventy one is when Valanthor came back. So I'm sorry for the confusion when he came back, and then that's when they formed the Space Force, Son and Nixon, and Nixon was there all the way through when Truman was president.
Speaker 4: He was part of that administration. He was there for Roswell, he was there for all these he was there for that. Nixon is huge, hugely involved in this subject. But nobody understands that because all they remember is Watergate, because that's all I'm jhwa putual.
Speaker 9: That's makes you really interesting.
Speaker 5: So how you know, to get a little bit personal or or to give a little bit of insight, how do you interpret the recent UFO You know, UAP sightings over government facilities? Are Are these part of that acclamation process you've mentioned, you know, let's say the New Jersey drone situation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the drone situation I had actually told people was a display, is what I called it.
Speaker 3: Back in September.
Speaker 4: I say, they're gonna be doing the display in the matter of months, and what they're going to be doing is showing off the technology.
Speaker 3: But they're gonna be on a show of force, letting you know, let it be known. This is what it is.
Speaker 6: And you say about over government facilities, you have to understand a lot of this stuff is ourself, but ourself doesn't know you understand what I'm saying. So the right hand never knows what the left hand is doing. So this, this whole program is less than one percent of all military, all intelligence. It's less than one percent, So nine over ninety nine percent of the military and the intelligence.
Speaker 3: They have no idea. So what they want to do is they said, let's say, for instance.
Speaker 4: If you want to see if your ARV's brand new see through technology were micro nano cameras they used to use. They I'm sure they have better stuff now, but when I was briefed on they have micro nano camps.
Speaker 6: And I say micro and nano together for a reason. They have micro nano camps. And what they would do is they would take millions of these cameras and put it all.
Speaker 3: As like a like a a sheaf or whatever what's the word around something like a wrap it.
Speaker 6: Basically they wrap it around and it becomes part of the skin of the craft, and everything on the other side of it now projects on this side to.
Speaker 4: Where it becomes seat like you see like you look right to it. So if you want to see if something.
Speaker 6: Like that works against the best you know, detection equipment, where are you're gonna fly. You're gonna fly to your own military basis and see if they can see it. If they can, let's see if they can chase. You're not gonna shoot at them.
Speaker 4: You're not gonna you know, you can shoot at the craft because you know you can handle it, but that craft's not going to shoot back at your own violence. It's not time for that yet, but they will during the fake airly innovation or you bet your ass they will.
Speaker 3: They'll be killed in their own military better bet it so and.
Speaker 5: That you know that's a very bold statement, right, So, so that's when you do say things like that, there are going to be people in this community who respond very concrete in a way. So some of the things that you're saying challenge their their reality, challenge reality. So I think that might be what we're crashing up against at least, or at least what you're crashing up against is you're very You're very concrete in what you say. And I will say that you do have a sense of there is something like that there is something about you that that makes me, it gives me that want to believe state.
Speaker 5: And I got that same feeling when I talk to Richard Dody. So I don't know what to make of that. I don't know if it's a good or bad thing, but maybe someone else can tell me. But to this nature and origin of alien life, so so what physical or biological characteristics, uh, these alien species were emphasized in the briefings that you say you received.
Speaker 3: Okay, so the briefings that I received you had, right, I know, I call it that. So briefings that I did with the.
Speaker 4: You had the two main lists, I'm sorry, three main lists, and then the rest was talked about. So the three main list was the ETE scale of the first eight in order of first contact et E and then et E and then the number of order of first contact, and then that number stands for a star system, and.
Speaker 3: Then you have types hey, B, C, D, whatever, it's all part of that star system.
Speaker 4: So et E one through eight was one list was I see mown eyes, and then another one with the CBE list was has cloned the biological entities which are created the extraterrestrials and extraterrestrial civilizations kind of like us, exactly like us. Then that's the CD scaler's four of those. And then you have the reptoid scale, which are reptilian and that's type eight, the type B and type SEE and those are the main.
Speaker 3: Three lists that they have.
Speaker 6: But then they allude to by saying there's been documentation of over one hundred and fifty different intelligence civilizations that have been known to come to this planet that either come from our first hand knowledge or the histories of other extraterrestrials that we now have in our possession to tell us what take place.
Speaker 3: That's how we know how Earth was formed. That's how we know how humans were formed.
Speaker 6: That's how we know all these things because we have these collaborating civilizations that some don't even talk to each other and enemies or not, they just don't even communicate, but yet they have the exact same histories about us, about this planet.
Speaker 3: And then there's a few different competing.
Speaker 4: Civilizations as far as who they worshiped and what they worshiped, like Ete one actually worship technology, an answer to this thing called the Keeper, which is super like sci fi found sounding, but it's facts, and I think it was.
Speaker 3: It's my opinion that the Keeper is.
Speaker 6: Just Ai knowing that they worship technology and that they are biomechanical theyself now. But then you have Ete too, that they created Christianity modeled after their own religion, and they pray five times a day and they work like their entire schedule is around prayer all day, and they use a sun dial looking thing that's huge in the middle, like the Walking Dead style, in the middle of their little community that as their two sons move around, they have to sow dial and it tells him when to work, It tells him when to pray, It tells them when to pray next, and in between, how to where they eat.
Speaker 6: Like it's a whole little things. So each society is different, but most of them all have the same ideology, with the exception of a half four of them.
Speaker 3: But I was brief throwing a lot of different ways.
Speaker 5: So you're saying that Christianity is is I just want to make sure I heard that right. Christianity is. You're saying christian entity is derived from a non human intelligence like it was, like it.
Speaker 4: Was, and specifically the New Testament, because the Old Testament was connected to it on purpose to make the New Testament stuff that they were putting together for us to lead us in a better direction, uh, to make that feel divine to us.
Speaker 3: And what's more divine than our creation?
Speaker 6: So they took our actual creation stories from another extraterrestrial's pieces and their histories that actually did create us to be slaves and threw us at each other as little petty differences between their own royal families. That was zero on Earth and all that's Old Testament stuff. And what they did was they broke it down, said, oh, this is the Old Testament, this the New Testament. And what they did was that's I mean, God's not by both. There's a reason why the Old Testament is all fire, brimstone, and kill you and the New Testament is all well, you know, turn the other cheek and love that naghbor is because it's two separate civilizations living two separate ways.
Speaker 6: But Christianity itself didn't come about until Ete two, which is the Risbell species wanted to model it about two thousand years ago after their own even including the version of Earth, that all came from their own religion that they subscribe to, and they believe it, and they connected to what they referred to as the Creator of all, creator of all things. And that's the same thing that our creators actually referred to as.
Speaker 3: Well in their own histories.
Speaker 4: And pretty much everybody accept the biomechanicals and CBS talk about this Creator of all things, and it was described in the Classified files as a female presence or female plug type of deal that all consciousness plugs into.
Speaker 6: And that that's actually why every religion thinks they got it right. And when I read that I was like, what do you mean by that? When I asked him to explain it to me, and he broke it down. He said, the reason why every religion thinks they got it right is because all of them feel that connection to God or to the un verse. That that and they're praying to their God by their name, but yet they're feeling that same connection. And he said, that's because no matter what name you use, all of us are connected to this female plug that all consciousness plugs into it when you pray.
Speaker 3: That's what you feel. You feel that because it's real. And that's why I said, like, if the truth got revealed, it wouldn't hurt religion, it would strengthen it because then you could find out that these stories they did have they are real, people really did live thousands of years at one point in time.
Speaker 6: Those aren't metaphors. And then you get to find out like, oh, well, God is also real and that's what we were actually feeling, and then you can really like strength and religion and stop lying to people all the time and thinking that you know, you have to kill each other over who's right and who's wrong, and everybody got got it right.
Speaker 4: And then but everybody got the one same thing wrong, and it's names and identity and that's it, you know, and and it's it's more simple than people think, but it's complex at the same time.
Speaker 5: That's you know, there, I can't remember what which UFO story or witness it was. And I noticed that people are requesting to talk. We're going to be going to like nine fifteen Eastern, so that's like about another hour. So for the last like twenty thirty minutes, I'll open it up and we'll take some some questions if you're okay with that, Charles.
Speaker 9: But so there was this case. It was from a long time ago.
Speaker 5: I can't remember exactly when, but the person was given like this artifact, this religious artifact that that the ets allegedly gave him of their creator quote unquote creator or what they referred to as you know, they're what they believed in and prayed to, if you will. I can't remember the exact but that really made me think of that story. I kind of I wish I remembered who.
Speaker 3: Who it was.
Speaker 9: But that's interesting.
Speaker 5: So so a lot of people think there's the interdimensional aspects to the phenomenon, that there's extraterrestrial ultra terrestrial given the information that you saw, Uh that you say that you saw allegedly?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 9: Is it all of the above? Is it more one or the other? What can you say about that?
Speaker 4: I gotta stop myself from I keep catching myself hearing You're like, you're catching yourself.
Speaker 3: It's a good I understand. I think I got to remain impartial. But uh, but yeah, in my breathings that was mentioned.
Speaker 6: Yes, that's actually the only ET scale that does not attach to a star system, and that's ETE five. And what people call ultraterrestrials are actually listed in the documentation the classified files as para terrestrials b A r a terrestrials, and those are interdimensional beings and they even described how they're able to go.
Speaker 3: Them and I even found not a couple of them that exists. And believe it or not, spreading God, call me a conspiracy theorists if you want to. But hitfoot, were you a big foot?
Speaker 4: That's actually a parent terrestrial known as a wald Day Wadiz, And it was leaked back from the late eighties, and with that thing that people call the ones that are called the Blue Planter.
Speaker 3: Project, that was real that.
Speaker 4: Really, that's real information as far as that goes. Not everything in there but that and a few other things. But how it works is they either naturally or technologically, depending on which they accelerate and decelerate their atomics makeup to be able to traverse dimensionally. And we have this technology to do this, and this is actually as of my briefing, my last briefing of twenty twelve, is actually what we were experimenting with to be able to travel distances in this dimension by entering in one place in that dimension seeing how you know, if you could you know, fly with with the technological craft, you know, ten thousand miles and then exit back in here where you ended up at.
Speaker 3: And they were mapping that as we as my last briefing was.
Speaker 6: And I don't know that they've mastered that, but if they did, then are charged dark matter propulsions would be irrelevant and.
Speaker 3: Not even matter anymore. A wormhole travel.
Speaker 6: Would be significantly improved instead of staying there for months on months on months like we're currently, or at least as we did as twenty twelve.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's that's real thing. But like shadow people commonly referred to as demons or things like that. There's different types of shadow people. Hat Man is real, that's a real, that's a supervisor.
Speaker 3: They work with extraterrestrials type he works with extraterrestrial type B, or like rogue. They do what they want. Those are the ones that sit on your chest and paralyze you while you're sleeping. You don't even like move your eyes and can't breathe. That's what they are.
Speaker 4: They're shadow people, and they're commonly missed, you know, misunderstood, and people think that, you know, the possessions and things like that are demons, and they think because they're speaking about God and Jesus that that gets them out of the body. But that's not actually what it is. There's a reason why they use Latin in the Ancient Hebrew with those.
Speaker 6: With those exoricism is because the vibrations of those language have extra terrestrial roots, and that those vibrations are actually what is the problem for them and makes them not want to be around that. And so Latin, Ancient Hebrew, Aramaic, and Arabic are the main four languages that they have the type of vibration that can expel different types of shadow people and they're not all bad, but the ones that work with extraterrestrials are mainly matriarchal lines, and they attached to the females in families, and they stay attached to the daughters and then the daughters, and they might skip a generation and they show back up.
Speaker 4: And I don't know any type of life spans when it comes to these things. That wasn't listening And I don't like talk about things that I don't know, So I don't.
Speaker 3: Know the answer to that.
Speaker 6: They could live forever, They could live for a day, I have done that, but I know that they attached and they stick to matriarchal lines. As far as other intern mention things, I know that there's there's a blob looking thing. It's weird, but it's intelligent and telepathically communicates. There's there's quite a few things that are As.
Speaker 4: Of twenty twelve, they were still trying to figure out, but there was a lot they already knew that a lot of these crash retrievals and a lot of these other civilizations is where they get this information front and then they take that and they travel there and they see it for their own eyes. They I mean, we have footage about this stuff. We have footage, We have documentations and missions, you know, the dimensions and stuff like movie stuff like you know, public acclamation program.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and you know what you said.
Speaker 5: There's something that you just said, like the Latin it and it comes out with these these these vibrations. And I find that to be interesting because it's something I've talked about before. You know, there was a study done where a froze froze water drops of water and they would speak to the water. I can't remember which university or institution it was, but they would speak to the water, freeze it. And when they spoke like you know, positive words or things that implored positivity, like you know, saying joy and then freezing it, it would come out with this beautiful crystal.
Speaker 5: But then if you spoke something like that had a negative connotation, like war, you know, something that we perceive as negative, the crystals would form like really weird. So what they're what they were trying to say is your words matter, literally they affect the matter around you. So I find that to be kind of interesting that you that you talk about vibration of language, because it seems like a lot of these cases involved to lepathy, so there would be the absence of noise.
Speaker 9: So at what time do what's the correlation there? You know, I find that to be interesting. That's not like a question, that's just an open thought.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: A lot of theay though with these abductions comes from technologically having these like not chips, but they're like biological implants that they end up not they're not all the same style, it's not all the same civilization, but they're basically the same type of technology, usually either behind the ear or somewhere you know, in the body, to where it either dissolves or detached and it's hard to either get rid of or you can't even detect it. And what it does is they use that technology that that implant to then telepathically communicate with you.
Speaker 6: And you don't remember getting abducted, You don't remember the implant being put in. You can't detect it for the most part anyway, so.
Speaker 3: You you don't know. You think that, oh, they're just speaking to me telepathically because they have that ability. Naturally, the majority don't.
Speaker 6: The majority don't they do that with technology, And we did it for the first time back in the seventies with actually starting at sixty five with the CBE that was presented to us as part of the exchange with Project Circle, the Jay Rod you know, Jay Rod, and there was another one c one.
Speaker 9: Yeah of this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh cb E one had the implan and Jay Rodd is the one that let him go. He's the one that let him go because of what we were doing to him. But Jay Rod was the one that we were presented and he was speaking telepathically, you know, with CBE one. And now if you look at CBE.
Speaker 6: One, it's not an individual, it's an entire species that are from what that individual was cloned from. It's a CBE and that's part of the CBE list that I told you about. And yeah, so that that just goes to show you. So if Dodie talked about it, I'm telling you he saw a lot of the same files I saw. I mean, he'll tell you himself that he didn't get to see everything I saw because he wasn't part of that extensive of different compartments. But just in the compartment the lost couple of sections that he saw and what he was briefed on and what he you know, might have been or not been there for so he definitely knows that that particular incident very well.
Speaker 3: Let's just say that, right understood.
Speaker 5: So what what what do you How do you respond to skeptics, because there's going to be plenty. How do you respond to those who demand more kind of a concrete proof. What would it take or what would it what would be necessary for you to reveal the more classified information and a more I don't know how to really word this better, but how how do you respond to skeptics who are going to demand more proof evidence? I know you've posted pictures and other stuff on your feed, but to some that's just not going to it's not.
Speaker 3: Going to do it.
Speaker 4: Well usually for those individuals, not all, but for those individuals most of the time, I could land the UFO on their lawn and they'll still call it a house. So that's just how it is at the end of the day. The ones that actually make sense when they say, Okay, well I like this, but it would be nice if you really release some evidence, some more evidence for some actual documentation, and I tell them the same thing every time. I love how they came respectfully, I appreciate that, but understand something.
Speaker 4: What you're asking for is the actual classified files, and they're classified under even the clearance itself is classified. You're not even allowed to know that the clearance exists, let alone the files. So if unless the ones that have been lying to you decide to then release these files.
Speaker 3: You're not gonna get it. You are literally now in touch with an.
Speaker 4: Individual who got you, who has nothing to gain and everything to lose. And I'm just sitting here telling people, Look, I know the one true story from the twenty different accounts of this story, the twenty different accounts of this story.
Speaker 3: Because I hear that a lot too.
Speaker 6: Oh, you're just rehashing old shit, really, because last time I checked, there was thirty different stories that Rod's well, I've heard four different dates. But if I'm sitting here telling you this happened on this time, at this time, at this time, and I'm giving you dates, I'm giving you times, and then they.
Speaker 3: Say, well, where's this, I said, Okay, check this out. Here's the file numbers. Boom, how far do you want me to go?
Speaker 4: I can't do anything more without handing you files that I haven't had access to since twenty twelve.
Speaker 3: I can't do it.
Speaker 4: So to use that as an excuse to not listen and not get prepared and try to stop what's coming with me.
Speaker 3: You're only going to be hurting yourself, you know. So as far as like trolls and stuff like that, I block about ten people a day.
Speaker 4: And that's just people I see because I got certain, you know, especially over the last I've had about five posts.
Speaker 6: They're going at about close to four million views just with those five posts, and you know how many comments that is. There's hundreds of trolls in there. But if I catch them on there, I.
Speaker 3: Let them know. Look, I open skepticism. I'm open to it.
Speaker 6: I love those type of conversations because I know I can bring the facts. But don't come and disrespect us. Don't come and disrespect the comments. Don't try to troll and be.
Speaker 4: Funny and try to troll like Stephen Cabian talking about all this kiddie touching nonsense.
Speaker 3: That's all. It's all lies, man. And I see people trying to quote that, I'm like, are you serious? Oh you gotta do is case search me.
Speaker 4: I've never even been accused of some shit like that, let alone convicted or charged or anything.
Speaker 3: I've never had anything like that type of charge in my life.
Speaker 5: I do want to clear I get with kind of shit. So sorry if I'm if I just cut you off a little. But listen, and this goes to everybody. If you are calling someone that name or that, if you're trying to attach that title and it's not real and it's not true, Listen, there are real fucking ramifications. There are real consequences to saying something like that. And you you, you there are plenty you can call Charles an asshole, a liar.
Speaker 9: That's where it should that should that.
Speaker 5: That's where it draws the line right when you when you step past that and you start uh putting those things on, that's stuff that you can literally ruin someone's life with. So just you know, it just aggravates me a little bit when people start throwing those words around.
Speaker 9: Not only do they lose their their uh their sense of of you know whatever. It is uh there there. I can't even say it because I have to say the word.
Speaker 5: But uh, it's like how the left throws around they call Trump hitler like or or they call they call them na season stuff. It's like, all right, listen, he's not right, He's not a Nazi. He is I see what you're trying to say, but listen, like the Nazis, they put people in and in concentration camps, and they they did a certain level of thing that I mean it. I'm sorry, I'm starting to ramble now, but you get my point. You can't say those things. It's it's very very it gets me very upset. So people like Stephen Cambien, listen, I think he I think he has his audience, I think he has his place in the community, but he does strow around these really these really he's really massive claims about about people, and you just gotta you gotta watch out.
Speaker 5: So I'm sure, I'm sure you already know and have handled all these kind of things before, but it really does upset me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's just it rules my mind because I, yeah, understand where I'm at right if anybody would come up to my table where I'm sitting at and and and me and you know, my homie sitting around your friends is somebody that doesn't use that term, and we're just sitting here, and somebody was to come up to me and say that, do you understand how quickly I would have to grab those around me so they.
Speaker 3: Didn't whoop his ass.
Speaker 4: I mean, you can't just talk about people and call them that, Like, you can't just put that bad bone on somebody because you ain't got the black and white per that because it never happened.
Speaker 3: That's like calling me.
Speaker 4: Well, I can't use that term anyway because we're still on YouTube, right, So okay, so that's like, that's like calling me somebody who would do something very of that nature to a female grown too like and I'm sure people are following along.
Speaker 3: That's never been accused of me.
Speaker 4: But like if you say that that's a bad bone you're putting on my name, that's like calling me a rat where I live at that gets you killed, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean?
Speaker 4: There's there's stuff you can just put something on somebody and not like all it was was just do them Area five O three. They tried to shut me down when I first came for my very first base with Grider and then shout out to Grider who's come forward and admitted it.
Speaker 3: You know he was wrong, and all is well, uh a fuck with Grider now is good, dude.
Speaker 4: So the point is Area followed three tried to get everybody not to listen to me. Oh he's in prison by the way, like everybody knows, bro, nobody cares. That does nothing to do with the information. So when that happened and it didn't work for him, he's the one to contact with. Stephen came being and gave him this whole blown up timeline of my of all my.
Speaker 6: Little incarcerations or whatever, basic cards whatever, and uses that as an excuse to say there's no way he got his briefing because during the same time, dude and listened to what I said on my whistleblower account, my document back three years ago when I put it up got acclimatanow dot com. It's got a twenty five minute thing, and I say it on there in.
Speaker 4: Between my incarcerations, I told you that, right, And what he did was take the same charge and listed like twenty four different times.
Speaker 3: But all they are good days, I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And but they do charge you with the same thing like five six times, and really the conviction is only of the one thing. But this dude for area five or three put all this stuff on there and acted like it was all like you know what I'm saying, and blew it.
Speaker 3: Out out of proportion and try to act like I was this.
Speaker 4: I was that, And obviously Stephen cap is gonna go right with it because anything he can latch onto to try to convince everybody aliens ain't real, your food don't exist, couldn't use it.
Speaker 3: And everybody's fought when I everybody but a handful of people are falling for that. And it's like, come on, like, I'll just tell you I got I got no cut calls. I'm ten toes down.
Speaker 4: I don't care if you ask me anything, I'm gonna tell you, and if you don't like it, I don't care.
Speaker 3: I'll move right on.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So like that type of I'm just not used to that. Bro, Like you said you were going on a tangent, Now I'm going on a tangents. I'm shut up, So alright, we'll.
Speaker 9: Get back on track. Actually, you know what, speaking of that.
Speaker 3: How do you have you.
Speaker 9: Have you had any.
Speaker 5: Repercussions or threats against you or people that you love, or or any kind of intimidation tactics used against you or your family since having spoken out.
Speaker 3: Yes, but not in the sense of Bill so.
Speaker 11: I.
Speaker 3: I've had people on here.
Speaker 4: Called into where I'm at and try to put lies on me to get me, put behind the door, or get me like, uh, get me like put in put it in the.
Speaker 3: Box, put in the hole or whatever. You know what I'm saying, Like I've had people do that all the time.
Speaker 4: And like they tell him like, oh, he's got a cell phone in there, he's got Twitter on a tablet.
Speaker 3: They've confiscated my tablet. They've looked at it. They're like, dude, there's nothing one there. And they gave it back.
Speaker 4: They took they took my whistle blow with document and make copies of it and said, oh, this is what your people doing on the street for you, and this is how your own space is.
Speaker 3: Yep. They said, okay, here you go.
Speaker 4: And they said, okay, so you're just calling and then you know you're getting plugged in and that's how you're doing it. Ye okay, fine, that's fine. I said, what are you gonna do they keep calling? They said, we're gonna follow Rastma Shorge. I said, oh yeah, okay, do you think that? I said, if they're dumb enough to keep calling in there, it's on and there. They told me they're not gonna keep coming to me because they already know they are like, they can listen to what I'm doing, they know what's going on, so it's not But at the point is to answer your question, yes they've tried that, but once now like they understand that's not gonna work.
Speaker 4: You know, we'll see once I get a million people outside Capitol Hill and stuff like that with picketsons with no violence by the way, guys, but with picketsons and stuff like that, uh m, Jace wall is gonna get you know, then I become a problem. Right now, I'm just some lovely little inmate. They can discredit it. What's gonna listen to And that's and and and again we did talk about that earlier.
Speaker 5: This is this is a this is something that again they can use against you and discredit you very easily at least then like the grand scheme of things, that's how they look at it, which I I do find a little bit interesting that that's how they roll, because you know, it does make sense. How how have these briefings changed you know, your life and and you personally and professionally. I mean it, it's a lot to take in.
Speaker 6: Honestly, it was a weight, man. It was a weight that when I first started writing my whistleblow at documenting.
Speaker 3: It helped.
Speaker 4: It helped because I kept that secret my whole life and mixed that with a few other things.
Speaker 6: No, no excuses, but you know, life was life, and you know great mom, great dad. First step dad was terrible, second step dad was awesome. A lot of betrayal in my life and things of that nature. So you know, a lot of stuff I brought on myself. Not everything, though, So I put all that together, and to say this, the briefings were a weight that just weighed me down, though, And I didn't understand for the life of me why I had this information until I will I whistle blow a doctor, and then when I started coming forward here and then It's like all my experiences in life led me to this.
Speaker 6: And I've always felt like I had a purpose. You know, I can call it self centered or what, but I've always felt like, man, I'm more important than fucking prison dude. I'm more important than this, and I bring more to the same. I'm a good dude. I'm reliable and honest, I'm trustworthy. You know, you know why when you say why me for these briefings? A lot of times I say why me for this? And you know, all the other stuff in my life I did. You know, I didn't do this right. It really bothered me, but it helped me grow.
Speaker 6: And when I started coming forward and it helped me grow. And then I finally, finally, finally found the right woman. And any great man will tell you, man, And I'm not even great, I'm just good. So any good man will tell you once you find the great woman, the perfect woman, the right woman by your.
Speaker 3: Side, man, you can really conquer the planet.
Speaker 4: And so I finally had that, and everything happened all at the same time, and it was like, I'm just going all out.
Speaker 3: I'm not holding back. You know, we ain't got time for that shit anyway. You don't run out of town.
Speaker 9: I agree.
Speaker 5: And with that, So with that being said, what if your information is accurate, how do you believe that other nations are involved or aware of the plan like the the Ultimate Let's just say, I want to call that the Ultimate Plan, the false flag right the endgame, if you will, So.
Speaker 6: Okay, I saw the direct evidence that the Majestic twelve group have invetrated every major nation involved everything on G twenty, along with about five other nations.
Speaker 3: Through the military and Joint.
Speaker 6: Intelligence Committee, the Magic Eyes only it made ji C since nineteen fifty three, and they do this at least since the nineteen sixties through our seventies, I believe, through the United Nations Security Council, because anyone that knows anything about MJ twelve and those that don't, they were formed from the National Security Council in nineteen forty seven when that was formed, and all in a response to Roswell. And they have now taken that in that satellite government that was formed here and they have.
Speaker 4: Infiltrated the entire planet to have what they call full spectrum dominance, and they've now graduated to there. They have an entire intelligence community, an entire military at their disposal, and now they have China's military at their disposal, they have Russian's military at the disposal. They have all these different militaries and intelligence communities at their disposal, and they all they have them thinking that they're all enemies, when there's always somebody connected to the MAGI Committee that knows that they're not enemies.
Speaker 4: But they are purposely doing things and pushing that country in different directions on purpose to fit the orders of the majest twelve group's narrative put together since nineteen sixties. And you know, the whole thing is Divide and conquered, Divide and conquered, Divide and conquer.
Speaker 6: Then they built this thing up and all these little wars and all these these conflicts.
Speaker 4: And I say little, and by no means little, I mean I just say that because it's not World War three. There are millions of people have been murdered, murdered, bro and civilians.
Speaker 6: Have been raped and killed, and just just it's insane what's going on with kids. And we can sit here and blame that and yahoo, sure, okay, he seems like an asshole to me, But this is MJ twelve doing this. They would not be authorized to do that.
Speaker 4: They would not be allowed to do that unless MJ twelve wanted it to happen. China wouldn't be allowed to invade us unless they wanted it to happen. Ukraine would not be allowed to be invaded unless they wanted it to happen. There's only one place on this planet it's off limits to MJ twelve and any aggression from human beings, and that's Antarctic.
Speaker 3: Nobody is allowed.
Speaker 4: To focus an art So if you want to survive this, this false flag that's coming up and very shortly go there, for good luck being able to go there.
Speaker 3: And stay that, you know, so I suggest sewer systems of small communities.
Speaker 9: Well, I guess that, you know. Actually I do want to jump on that.
Speaker 5: What I mean, what can or what should the public do to prepare or respond to such a scenario, Because it doesn't seem like there's much we can do. It's not like we have technology on our side. They clearly are are They have us outmatched in that field. So I mean, if if you do actually want to stop this, how I'm not saying you don't, but I'm saying how can we?
Speaker 6: Yeah, a great question. So I don't know about battery issue or not, but remind me after this to actually break down some of this technology for those that have never heard me through it before, because that don't really blow her mind.
Speaker 5: So I'm going to do a couple of different parts too, because I do like your conversational aspect.
Speaker 4: So yeah, no doubt, we can definitely do it. So when it comes to how to prevent it, there's only one way. There is only one way to prevent it, and that's m J twelve's biggest weakness, and that's the unity of the people they divided. There's only one way, and that's to identify.
Speaker 6: Detain, and replace the Majestic twelve group and committee members that answer to them. That's the only way because if you do that, everyone else in the world that answers to them will stop. One hundred percent. They'll stop, and especially now the seventy year contracts over. The only thing we would have to worry about then is how do we still obtain a one world government without them, because we're going.
Speaker 4: To need it without that. The GFL is leaving, that's fact, and if they leave, we're fucked. And so it is a fine line. We do need that, but their plan to get us there is just fucked. So we have to do that, and the only way to do that is to come together and force Congress to accept that MG twelve exists.
Speaker 3: And don't just call this is what kills me about Congress, bro. They'll literally you. They're like, Okay, well, we need to go get this fot do we need to go get these files? Okay, we need to go get this proof and this documentation.
Speaker 4: Okay, ring ring, Hello, Yeah, do you have classified files that you've killed the John F.
Speaker 3: Kennedy. No, okay, thank you, and they'll just take the answer for it.
Speaker 11: Bro.
Speaker 4: You're like, they have to show up and I'll give them the address. They can go straight to Bowling Air Force Base and I'll tell them exactly how to get down or at least somewhat how to get down to the subterranean sections underneath of the DIA headquarters that Bowling Air Force Base and there is surco soil and bugs and shit from playing a circle down there, the whole three thousand page final report and the thousands and thousands fire over fifty four.
Speaker 3: Hundred audio tapes.
Speaker 4: If these are journals that were made ninety minutes a piece from the people that went there while they were there, this shit is there, bro, and they could go get that shit. But if they just call and say, hey, you got alien stuff, no, oh okay, cool, Yeah, we looked into it, it doesn't exist. What like, we need to get Congress off their ad and force that shit, because if you don't do it, then you're gonna be looking back and be like, hold town, this motherfucker knew what he was talking to a now, So if that does happen.
Speaker 3: Small towns toward systems brother the best way.
Speaker 4: Because they're going to have particle beam and acoustical weaponry, and that's the best place to go.
Speaker 3: Small towns to a systems smalls.
Speaker 5: You heard it here.
Speaker 9: You're going to become a ninja turtle to survive what's coming. That's that's the only.
Speaker 3: Question without questions.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I I like I like that fun too, so I I before we open it up to to you know, let some of the other people ask them questions.
Speaker 9: I have two things that I want to ask.
Speaker 5: If these beings are working with segments of human society, what does this mean for the average person. Are we part of a large, larger cosmic community or is it some experiment. Some have even posed that it might be a prison planet.
Speaker 6: Yeah right, Those are our conspiracy theories put out on purpose. Those are misinformations put out on purpose that's mixed with real information, because then people could say, no, but this is real.
Speaker 3: And they're talking about this. Everything else they're talking about must be real. No, not real. This is not a prison planet.
Speaker 6: This was a slave planet, but that stopped over three thousand years ago when our creators that made us for slaves left.
Speaker 3: This is not well, I'm not gonna say it's not an experiment because it is.
Speaker 4: But we are not the experiment anymore we were back in the day when our creators were still here.
Speaker 3: We are not the experiment.
Speaker 4: The animal life you see on this planet, a lot of it has came from other planets, a lot of it, Like our creators brought cows here, they brought sheep here, they brought goats here, they brought wheat, they brought barley and what else.
Speaker 3: There was something else they brought and they didn't bring it right away.
Speaker 4: They brought it once we were allowed to have well right before we were allowed to have civilizations because they.
Speaker 6: Wanted us to start, you know, farming, farm and stuff, and in order for us to have civilization, we had to learn that stuff.
Speaker 3: So they brought all that over. It was like, all right, cook for us, you know, and that's where you get the hole, you know, make this and put it on the altar, and all that came from them. So the animal there's more animals here from extraterrestrial planets than you know, as as experiments than we are.
Speaker 4: And the prison prison planet m J twelve is who keeps us prisoner here because they leave.
Speaker 3: We don't all right?
Speaker 9: And how do they how do if that?
Speaker 5: If that's correct, how do the secret of groups maintain control over information regarding alien life? Are there specific mechanisms or entities within the government or private sector tasked with this secrecy other than m J twelve, That is, you've.
Speaker 9: Already brought that up. You're muted if you are talking.
Speaker 9: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you're still muted. Just in case,
Speaker 5: let me I'll let me ask the question again.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Maybe you didn't hear. How do these secretive groups maintain control over information regarding alien life? Are there specific mechanisms or entities within government or private sectors tasked with the secrecy?
Speaker 9: Still mute? Is it just me? Or am I not hearing?
Speaker 5: Maybe it's one of those like you got to drop out situations. Let me see if I can bring anyone up and hear them. Oh God, the two people that want to talk are the only people of course, of course.
Speaker 9: Holy yeah, I knew this was coming, Grant. Can you say something?
Speaker 11: Hey?
Speaker 3: Try I think he I think he dropped it back down as a listener.
Speaker 5: Okay, weird, but I can hear you so.
Speaker 9: It's not me.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's dropped off by the By the looks of it, i'd say he had some connectivity issues.
Speaker 5: All Right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna say this right now, and I I agreed to do this show. I I know what I saw your post, Chris. I I I really I would really like it if we could play the civil I understand, and I do really understand like you're I saw your post and where you're going with it.
Speaker 9: I asked all the.
Speaker 5: Same questions, and again, I'm just as skeptical as anybody here. So I just want to say that out loud that I asked this man probably twenty seven different times, why why him? It doesn't make too you know all it doesn't. A lot of it doesn't. Isn't what I would think how briefings would be handled.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 5: I've I've obviously asked a lot of probing questions about the incarcerations and stuff like that, asked. I've even asked for his documents, any documentation he can give me. So I will let you guys up. Just keep it civil, please, That's all I ask. But I don't even know where he is, so I don't even know what to do anymore.
Speaker 5: You guys can all speak now, so maybe we can have a little chat. I mean, what what do your so?
Speaker 3: Hey, ty, I missed him. It's Grant here. Sorry I missed the start of your own space.
Speaker 7: But did Charles did Charles mention that the briefings that he claims to receive that they were in a skiff.
Speaker 5: He I believe he said that they were in a so that his handler would bring him to a hotel room.
Speaker 3: Cool. So well, that's that's that's a massive red flag right there.
Speaker 7: So that if class classified information, if it's not delivered, if if it wasn't a skiff, then there are, by the law of their illegal visitor records kept of all individuals that passed through a skiff dayton and time, who was their escort, reason for their briefings. So, I mean, Chris, no doubt will speak more to that. But the fact that he is claiming that he was not briefed in a skiff is why I'm questioning actually the validity of his claims.
Speaker 5: That's one of the things that I brought up immediately was the the how informal it seemed right, because you would you would assume that that information of this degree not only would have to be in a skiff, but it would have there'd probably be more layers than than you know, just just even a bringing someone like from Congress in to a skiff, and like there'd be so much added layer and protection to it. I don't know what what that would mean, but it just doesn't sound like you could throw this around in a hotel room.
Speaker 5: He said his device died, so I don't know if we're going to be getting him back. But what so, I don't know. I don't I'm gonna wait for his uh his answer here, but I I am a little I mean, I'm skeptical, but I do want to hear things out. Did you guys see what I what I asked him to specifically, what the next question was gonna be was he posted a picture of this guy the other day like this this guy in like short shorts and said that that was an extraterrestrial That was like ten people. Am I just not hearing anybody?
Speaker 11: I don't think anybody's speaking.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we all just kind of lost the enthusiasm here.
Speaker 11: Well, I mean, uh, I want if it's okay, I'd like to back of what Grant said.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 10: Yeah, so, h Grant is pretty on the money from what I heard before he blocked me months ago.
Speaker 11: That fellow Charles, he said that he was like, I don't know.
Speaker 10: He made it sound like it was his uncle that briefed him in his house and was I think he said he was like a tech sergeant in the Air Force and supposedly had shown him like some papers or something, and it was this whole all of this information that he claims that is that he's talking about. Yeah, so one that, like Grant said, that wouldn't happen too. If you're a criminal. Chances are if you have a clearance and you're associating with that person and there's a potential that you're in any way giving information that person, that clearance gets stripped real quick, and especially if it's a relative, like you have to disclose things like that when you're like when you're applying for a clearance, and so that that's also far fetched.
Speaker 10: And I actually called him out on that whenever I was in this space that he was in months ago, and he blocked me real quick. But my thing is is what I was going to ask him, and just for the audience, Like for a guy that's been you know.
Speaker 12: A career criminal, convicted of bank robberies, convictive of enticing a minor, also using a minor in one of the robberies, why should we believe or see him being credible anything he's saying like, it's just a it's and that's just a that's a common sense question, right, I was gonna give him a chance to answer that, Like I'm not I'm not gonna sit here and just berat him like I'm gonna I was gonna ask him a question, let him respond.
Speaker 10: Because it is a big deal, like for this career and you know this, for this community that is interested in in UFOs U A p NHI. Whatever credibility matters because it's the evidence out there is already like depending on your stance, Uh, it's very fine that what even is considered evidence these days passes for that. Like I so if if we're building on credibility about what people are saying, like and he's not providing any proof, and all we have is this credibility, right, that's it. Like if he's not given evidence, he's not providing those actual documents which I know don't exist, then we have, Well, all we have is this credibility, and how can we do that when he's a career criminal, especially with children?
Speaker 10: Man, come on crimes with like that. That's kind of just where everybody should draw the line.
Speaker 3: To me, how do the how do do you guys?
Speaker 5: Hear those sounds?
Speaker 11: Yes, it's disclosure. He's the one that's doing it.
Speaker 5: I was like, how the fuck does anybody having?
Speaker 9: How does that?
Speaker 5: So? Disclosure? Who I want this to stop?
Speaker 11: It's the guy with the blonde, this disclosure. He's the only illustration. He dropped down the listener.
Speaker 5: All right, my god, sorry for that man, And and listen, you know what, I agree with you, but I do agree, but something in me right like so, so, for instance, let me ask you about Bob Blazar. Do you believe the story of what Boblazar?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 9: Okay, so you don't so that because I was.
Speaker 5: Going to bring up his past, right so, and having that ability to be able to discredit him, it is something people bring up, right Obviously, George Knapp and Corbella brought it up. And you know, why, why would you use someone who's squeaky clean, uh, when you can use someone who's who has got a record that you can discredit. Right, So it's that argument, I suppose, but that really doesn't it doesn't hold so much water. It's hard to fight with.
Speaker 11: That, correct.
Speaker 10: So, like when it comes to getting a clearance, like you do have to be clean, and like his claim of like whatever tier clearance that was is absolutely you know it's just bs. But what he what Bob Lasar has been associated with in his past automatically with this discredit like that, he would wouldn't get a clearance. He had financial financial issues, which is a big red flag.
Speaker 3: You mean, he's not actually going this is Mike?
Speaker 5: Is he back?
Speaker 11: I don't know what that was?
Speaker 3: All right, so covie on his bigger bringing. Okay, now turn Michael.
Speaker 5: It is okay, okay, can you hear me?
Speaker 3: Brother?
Speaker 11: Yep?
Speaker 3: Okay. So I'm gonna have to tell her to turn Michael and turn Mic off because my device overheated.
Speaker 4: I can't really do it the way I was doing it, so I have to do it this way now it's in the third party way. So I've been listening though she was figuring out what she needed to figure out. So I think, like this, right, the reason why if I remember correctly, the reason why I blocked this dude wasn't because he questioned or I had questions.
Speaker 3: It was because of how he.
Speaker 4: Did it and how just respectfully he was bad, and how he wasn't really listening to what I was saying, and how he's trying to over talk with me and call me names.
Speaker 3: And what he did was to ask questions, and then when I was trying to get him.
Speaker 4: A master and tell him why that information was wrong, that he's still again repeating there. I tried to let him know, just with over talking and things like that that so if he's not acting like that, I mean, I don't got no problem with you.
Speaker 3: I don't even know the god.
Speaker 4: But what I will say is this, if you asked me a question about the record, I'm gonna tell you. But when you start talking about involved in chosren and things of that nature, you don't know what you're talking about. But if you ask, you could get information and didn't know because I don't lie and I don't give the fuck, so I just tell you. But I've never harmed the kidh day of my life. And when I was in my twenties and they arrested me for CRIMEA and then I met a girl over the phone and she's talking about.
Speaker 3: Breaking out of prison for crima to commit and I know I've never on the phone. I didn't know her.
Speaker 4: She turned out to be sixteen seventeen. I didn't know that, so that he came enticing up to commit a crime. Even though I told her, never mind, don't do it. They still charge me with it, even though she never either did it. But you don't know that because you never asked me that. And so when I tried to tell you that, you just over talk you feel me, and you didn't let me tell you. I've never done anything like that to a kid, never, and I never would.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Once I find out what I find out, and I'll.
Speaker 4: Keep it pushing, you want to say I'm saying, And there's other aspects of that to where I'm not gonna reveal because I'm not going to put someone else's business of whether they were made in assiviating with this assiviety. I'm not going to do that because that's something that's not my.
Speaker 3: Place to do. You under say I'm saying. So what I will tell you is this that.
Speaker 4: It's not the narrative that's push but at the end of the day, bro listen, I am in prison.
Speaker 3: I'm in prison for a fact robbery that I did not commit.
Speaker 4: I have a bank robbery on my record from when I was in my only twenties, and that's why they were able to pin this went on.
Speaker 3: But I will be coming home soon because.
Speaker 4: Of my red of actual and that as soon as I get on this skill, there's a reason why I answer any question.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 4: You know, I got my food, started to do it, and I'll be indicated. But if you want to not accept the truthful information because of that, that's on you.
Speaker 3: Like I'm not here to try.
Speaker 5: Chris is a very you know. So, Chris is a US Air Force veteran. He's a very credible journalist. He is a very good person, and I think he asks everything that he asks with with with with at least decent intent and trying to get to the answers. So I'm going to roll it back to something that he did ask Command Grant, what do you say to people that contend about how you received your briefings not being in a skiff but a hotel. This is obviously a really unsecure facility, right just in its nature. So so what is the answer to that aspect?
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's a very common question that I did all the time, and that's what I keep trying to tell people.
Speaker 4: There's not one gift that has ever existed where all of this information has ever been putting.
Speaker 3: Out there, period, point by, full stop, and it's never going to be.
Speaker 4: And the reason is because you don't get this the conventional way, because if you did have it, Congress would know it, President would know it. They're not in control of the information. And this, and I always call it very controversial program is because it is when this program finally becomes declassified, this operations Society, I can feel free to put the ploy is it like you'll see like it's some more fashion, will find out that it's real, But the details of it, especially with me, if it's fun, I would almost guarantee.
Speaker 3: It's soill classified. But find out, you know, put it in. I encourage you for it better. Fact. So the point is that this program was not convention.
Speaker 4: This program was purposely created to grant people that are from the background front and then vet.
Speaker 3: Them for this stuff and takes years.
Speaker 4: They grant you as a teenager, and again I wasn't supposed to be in this program, but because I had a childhood mentor that was running the program with a couple other people, and Phil wasn't recruiting me. But then when I was told something about a legitimous operation that were classified that I wasn't allowed to know about, and I revealed it to him as a joke, that changed everything. And as far as whether it's at a hotel, whether it's in a skiff, I'm telling you now, there's never going to be a skiffs where this happens, and.
Speaker 3: Never going to happen.
Speaker 4: Brother, It's not no matter what they tell you. Ninety nine percent of what gets revealed in.
Speaker 3: The skiff is purposeful misinformation to convince you of the lie that they want to push. Period. That's how it is. It doesn't mean you have to like it. It doesn't mean that you have to you know, accept that. But I'm telling you and that is how it is. And as far as credibility goes, my address doesn't dictate my credibility. My actions kids, and.
Speaker 4: If anybody has been paying attention to me at all, I've been more courteous and more honest or x with.
Speaker 3: All these trolls, and with all these people than.
Speaker 4: Everyone else that have been trolling that that I've had the block, or that have been over talking me in spaces, I've been more courtious than they have.
Speaker 3: But I'm the criminal though, you see me.
Speaker 4: I've been more nice and enforced coming about everything about my past than anything. So if you want to talk about credibility, you have to take everything into account.
Speaker 3: I've been over the book. My girls shall tell you, like I'll tell it doesn't matter what's rass me. I'm gonna tell you. It doesn't matter though, unless it can get someone else time in prison. I'm gonna tell you what it is. It doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 4: I don't care, like I'm always gonna be forthcoming, because as long as I tell you the truth, then it doesn't matter if my story will remain the same, I don't need to remember what I said.
Speaker 3: I'm always gonna say the same shit.
Speaker 4: Because it's always gonna match because I'm always gonna tell you the truth. And if you don't understand it, that's fine.
Speaker 3: I get that. You now unique. I know this is. I know how unique this is. I know how different this is than the conventional cookie cutter way. That people come forward. I get it, but that doesn't mean it's not real.
Speaker 4: You want to say what I'm saying, if you really go to like go to my all I box, you to go to my highlights just so you can look at the it's really read them. And I heard you say how you didn't believe I was always a real story too.
Speaker 3: But I can see that you kind of took a little bit of a position to where you're like.
Speaker 4: Kind of like antide the information. But still that's that's that's healthy. I'm telling you that's a healthy standpoint. But take that standpoint objectively to my to my highlight section, look at the look at the information.
Speaker 3: And the details I've given the final OBErs. Go check them out if you would the proof.
Speaker 4: I can only give you so much, Go get it. I can only give you what I have. I don't talk about things I don't know.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Michael?
Speaker 5: Okay, So does anyone have one respond?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Can I with two questions? One I'd like So he said ninety nine percent of information and skifts.
Speaker 3: What was it?
Speaker 10: They said it was misinformation? I believe he said, or something along that line. I'll have to pass that pass it along to the people I work with, because I work and you know, I've been in plenty of skifts. So uh, I guess the information I get all the time is propaganda and weird.
Speaker 5: But anyways, I worrying too, is like the information about this topic. But maybe I'm over Maybe I'm giving that credit too much.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 10: Oh no, you could be right. I don't know, but my so, uh, my question is for him. So I think it was his uncle, that's someone that gave him this briefing or whatever. Does he know what his uncle did in the Air Force and what his rank was when he divulged that information and what base was he at?
Speaker 11: Just simple questions.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, definitely not my uncle, as I've said the whole time childhood and to him, COVID name was Robert May and AFLs guy ever gives me assurances that his life and kids won't lose the pension he left behind when.
Speaker 3: He died Agel twenty first in twenty.
Speaker 4: Eighteen, I will reveal and had come forward with his real name because I know he built the law during my briefings. So if they give that assurance, I'll make sure you get that. So, yes, he was a senior fuldation with an Air Force off Special Investigation Special Projects brands out of form LQ.
Speaker 3: So every answer you just asked for, it you just got.
Speaker 4: And as far as what I said the skiffs, I was yet I was only referring to this subject.
Speaker 3: Obviously, I'm not talking about terrorism. I'm not talking about anything else. I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: Ninety nine percent this. I'll even go as far as the ninety eight. We'll give you that ninety eight or six of everything about this subject. Only it's all.
Speaker 3: Misinformation to push a specific narrative. It's just it's fact.
Speaker 11: Michael, So I'm assuming he said that he was a FOSI. Is that what I got out of that?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 5: So so it was a childhood childhood mentor Again, so he did say a f Air Force Office of Special Investigation, same as Rick Dodie, I believe, right.
Speaker 4: Michael, Okay, Yeah, so a FOSI specifically the Special Projects branch out of Fort Belsiu and that's where the seniors field agent, special agent under the covert and you can find Robert May.
Speaker 3: They called him Rick, just like Ritt doty Rich but no relations.
Speaker 4: And yeah, they were both as always side and they were both part of Special Project Experence, but not all of them were out of Full Bellevue, but this Operations Society was ran out of Civil Belview.
Speaker 3: Michael.
Speaker 11: Yeah, so I think he's saying Fort Bellevue. Is that correct?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 11: So?
Speaker 10: Uh so I don't know too many Air Force spaces that are to have a fort in front of them. Those are usually army bases. I could be wrong there, but I mean I remember the conversation I had with him, and I stepped in the space before I ever came up, and he definitely said it was his uncle. So I'm a little bit confused by that because I do remember that distinctly, but it is what it is. So those are my questions. I appreciate it, I really do.
Speaker 3: It's just real quick. I've always said that he was like and how cool. That's uh.
Speaker 4: I can see you sometimes have a like maybe you don't always hear me, and I get that, Uh there my unconventional way that I have to speak on spaces sometimes I get that. So but yeah, like an uncle to me, he definitely was. He was like a big brother, like an uncle. But if you ever want to see the the first time.
Speaker 3: I ever spoke about it. This will help you.
Speaker 4: You can go to acclimatingow dot com and there's a recording that will take you to a YouTube recording that I recorded three and a half years ago, way before that space, and you hear me say the same thing. So that's the best proof I can give you for that, brother, and I appreciate you coming for.
Speaker 5: Yeah, any other any other questions from who we have up here, I'll.
Speaker 9: Bring up Paul as well.
Speaker 13: Yeah, can I say something? Yeah, Yeah, I was just you know, I don't doubt anything he says. But by this point, with the avalanche of information that has come out over the past year, shouldn't we all be able to independently and objectively realize that, you know, that we aren't alone on this planet, and that there are advanced civilizations interacting with us without the need and without the need of some government official or or you know, anyone like Bob Blaza or like this gentleman here revealing that information.
Speaker 13: You know what I mean, it's to me, it's it's pretty obvious that that there's some type of advanced civilization living in our oceans or in deep earth caverns, and you know they've been interacting with our societies or with us for thousands of years, since people have been reporting seeing these you know, crafts and interacting with beings for thousands of years. So and I think the part you know about being the misinformation is the fact that we've been brainwashed to believe that they're visitors, that they're coming from outside of the planet, or from these other dimensions or from the future, when in reality you know that there's just these other odd dominant there's another dominant species against sharing the planet with us.
Speaker 11: I think that's pretty obvious.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think it's more or less. I don't think we need a like for most of the people, and like say the quote unquote unfam community, I think we've all come to the realization somehow that that we're not alone. It's more about a societal consensus being reached right where we It's not about just one faction saying we're not alone. It's the world knowing we're not alone. I think that, you know, for most people, like you know, the Fox News dad, he's not going to accept the information until Fox News says it right.
Speaker 5: So like those are the We're not trying to sway the UFO community to it it's more about the public, like the quote unquote armies.
Speaker 3: Right, So I wanted to say, isn't Obama, because I just wanted to say that.
Speaker 4: They are actually terrestrial. However, you're not wrong. They I mean, some of these species have been around since way before we were even created two hundred and twenty four thousand years ago. You know, some of these beings have been there for millions of years, and they do live subterraneanly and they have basis subterrated but now so to be, and they we live together down there in basis and underwater basis. There's two specifically in the Atlantic Ocean alone that we have ourselves, and then there's plenty all up and down the Adriata coastline.
Speaker 4: You have plenty in the Ocean's plenty of subterranean it's all about a mile and a half down when it's terrain anyway. I mean, yeah, they're there, bro, and some of them have been there so long that they could be classified is being from here, I guess because some of them.
Speaker 3: Have been born here. So yeah, that makes that does track.
Speaker 4: Because they have been here that low. But you have others that have not been He has only been interacted with this planet for about twenty five hundred years. But they've been full of our societies in all languages more than a lot of others because they did that interactive. Some of them don't interact with us at all. Some of them are just here doing them, and some of them just are hero on the run. The Reptiorians came here on the run from their female queens.
Speaker 3: That's the fact they got their females to go.
Speaker 4: They were their warriors, just like the lions and in the prairies, they know, females are the hunters, you know, but they were the warriors. And then and they took over and they was like, we don't need these kings, we can do ourselves. And they fled and that's who came here, and you know, the whole, the whole. Hey, we definitely got to do too, or they do this trilogy. Because I only got about three minutes left, we got ten percent of the information.
Speaker 5: You're so let me let me finish with the If you guys don't mind, I'm going to finish with the question that he dropped out on. So let me just let me get that out and then if whatever time we have left, So, how do the secretive groups that that you're you're mentioning, including Majestic twelve. How do they maintain control over information regarding alien life? Are there specific mechanisms or entities within the government or pilot sectors that's with this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the most effective, the most effective way they ever did it was Project mocking Bird. Okay, Project mocking Bird, and it has other names now that I can't recall. With Project mocking Bird infiltrated. Back then, it was all magazines and newspapers and cables. Now it's all media, national and international, and they control the narratives.
Speaker 3: They pit us against each other.
Speaker 4: This you know, CNN all democratic, came Republican, Fox News all Republican, hate Democratic. That's by design. And it's usually the next security correspondent or somebody connected to national security or even at her she said times.
Speaker 3: They are just taking dictation and they they do all.
Speaker 4: Their jobs and with all the news, but when they comes to the subject, they kill stories or they run stories purposely.
Speaker 3: If you notice, it's the facts, it's evidence you can use. This is real evidence you can use. When the New Jersey drones situation was happening, that I told people was going to happen at least single news.
Speaker 4: Agency, all call them the same thing, all call them drones, all shot down the alien think, all played the X Files music by accident, all all of a sudden, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, all of them not talking about it, all the same thing, all of the right.
Speaker 5: That is that is in that is that that style when you see when you hear news media repeating verbatim, it is a red flag of some kind of psychological operation to some degree. Uh, at least from experts that I've talked to, and guys that you know, Danny Jones and and and and uh Julian have had on So I do find that to be to be interesting. Uh, you only have a couple of seconds left. Does anyone have a last minute question they want to squeeze in for the next time?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Can I can I just verify? Did he say Fort Belvoir b E l V O I R in Virginia.
Speaker 3: I'm not good at spelling.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the joint based Actually that's why it's Fort. But it's the joint base, just like Andrews became a joint based for the Air Force. I think it's Andrews.
Speaker 4: I can't remember, but it's joint based where they have Air Force operations and active Air Force personnel at Fort Belvie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can definitely. I mean, I don't know if you have contacts within os I, but you can just ask him if you can talk.
Speaker 4: To Special Brand Projects Branch operators and ask him about their presidence at Fork and see if I'll tell you about the.
Speaker 3: Operation Society for you and I guess I don't know.
Speaker 11: A would I would love to, But the a f O a f O s I is not at that base.
Speaker 3: I didn't say that. I didn't say that they were on about say hey, look a FO s I is at the space. What I told you is they have members operating out of that base. I didn't say that you would go about it. They don't have an office. I didn't say that.
Speaker 11: Christ, Let me just move on, please, Jesus.
Speaker 10: Well, I'm just poking holes in the story. But the obvious holes I'm pointing out everybody there's not Let it go, dude, Jesus Christ, Okay.
Speaker 11: Yeah, talk about reptilians.
Speaker 5: There is faith that kind of disc it's it's it's really it's it's obviously healthy. I mean, Chris is Christmas who the same respect everyone else is he is.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, he's purposely coming in with the narrative he already has in his mind. If I'm gonna and everyone else is gonna listen to what he has to say, He's purposely trying to get people not to listen to me instead of saying, you know what, I think, I'll believe something else, but let me hear what you have to say, So that's more responsible to take. He's sitting here telling me what he knows, like if you have all the answers.
Speaker 3: What are you doing in spaces looking for you know what I'm saying, like, if you know everything already, but what are you asking for? You know what iderstand? So I'm just saying move on, like you're the guy said like, we don't get time thrown.
Speaker 5: It understood, So I think we're gonna end it here. Guys, you're obviously running out of time yourself, so we'll have to do another one of these uh questions that I didn't get to thank you. Thank you for for for doing this. I know it's a it can be a little dub thing to and talk, but I really do appreciate your your interacting with us.
Speaker 3: And I got to shout out my girl man autumn, Autumn baby girl, thank you. How shoot we were able to contage you. So everybody, thank.
Speaker 5: Thank you and follow them. Thank you Chris for the question. Thank you Grant for your questions. Thank you to the uf UFO community for being a place that we can all come to, where we can all feel, you know, like we have some sort of purpose and and engage with like minded individuals that at the end of the day, all we have is each other, and you know that's that's it's I've gotten out of a you know, a real bad head space in the past couple of months, uh, you know, just engaging with people in this community.
Speaker 5: So you know, sometimes we hear stories like, for instance, Jake Barber's story. You know, people are really really on that fence about all this psionic shit. You know, a year ago, if you had aired that Ross Coultart interview, I don't think anyone would have taken it seriously. But you know, the days change, yesterday's paranormal becomes today's normal. So you know what will happen tomorrow? I guess that is the question. Thank you everybody for being here. Thank you Charles, Thank you everyone who contributed.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 5: All right, guys, we'll see you next time.
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