Netflix, Aliens & the Elohim: Rabbi Leon Ariel Mellul Explains | Humans Were CREATED by Extraterrestrials

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1:35 Speaker 5: All right, guys, welcome back to Total Disclosure. Today we're doing something interesting. This is the first live show that I've done in a while, so it's going to maybe take me a minute to get back into the ease of things, but let's get into it. So today on Total Disclosure, we venture into the heart of one of the most misunderstood movements in modern times, a group that's been called everything from a ufult to a post religious evolution of human consciousness. The Raelian movement claims that humanity was created by an advanced extraterrestrial race known as the Elohim, and that our religions, our gods, our prophets all were misinterpreted messengers.

2:19 Speaker 5: But who are the Raelians really? Are they truth seekers breaking free of ancient dogma? Or is this a cleverly disguised cult led by charismatic control? With us is grand Rabbi from the Raelian Movement and the chief Rabbi for the Ralian movement, Leon Ariel Malul, a rabbi and a man at the forefront of cosmic theology. Today we ask the difficult questions about faith, about disclosure, about science, sex, clothing, alien creators, and all of it. Get ready to take that red pill. This is total disclosure.

3:03 Speaker 5: A welcome welcome Leon. How are you doing, man.

3:10 Speaker 4: I'm fine, Thank you, Thank you Taylor for welcoming me to your podcast.

3:15 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good to have you. And I mean I'm gonna I want to be I want to be very honest with you. I got told not to do this episode by many people, but I said to myself, what what like? What would what would a good journalist, a good reporter, a good podcaster do. A good podcaster would say, here were my conditions, right, I'll do the show with this, this, and this. You guys agreed to everything, and I couldn't be happier to sit down because I did watch that Netflix documentary and I know things aren't as cut and dry as they always seem to be.

3:55 Speaker 5: There's been many documentaries on Netflix that have represented groups, people and lights that they they didn't agree to. So I wanted to give you guys the chance to not only address the documentary, but to explain the theology. So I want to start with this, who are the Elohim and what do Raelians believe about humanity's true origins.

4:27 Speaker 4: The Elohim, mentioned in the original Hebrew Bible, are an ext restural civilization who created all kinds of flights on Earth over twenty five thousand years ago with genetic manipulations of DNA. They have been thought as gods because our ancestors were primitives and they could not understand what was science or either technology. So what happened there is everything that came from the sky was the wine and this is where all started. In nineteen seventy three. On December thirteen, a man from the center of France called Claude Warrion filled the urge while while he was driving to his office.

5:17 Speaker 4: He filled the urge to go to an old volcano where he also go with his family and many other people for picnic during summertime. That was on December thirteen. He was running to his work, driving to his work, and all of a sudden he had work to do, but all of a sudden he feeled the urge to go to that specific place. And when he arrived up there on December thirteen, it was a little bit chilly, so he said, what I'm doing here? I have work to do. I need to leave and on my work, and all of a sudden he saw something shining in the sky.

5:54 Speaker 4: At the beginning he thought it was an helicopter, but it was a beam on above and another bim before under, and he said, this is that? Is it an helicopter? But there was no noise. The more it was approaching, he realized it was a spaceship. Then he saw the spaceship was coming down. A ladder opened and two legs were coming down. Then he freaked out a little bit. He said, I'm not going to move because I think maybe I'm a tree or something and they're going to live. Then he saw what At the beginning he thought it was a child, a man about one meter thirty one meter forty about that size, that came directly to him without any weapon, smiley face, shiny face, full of energy, no no danger at all.

6:54 Speaker 4: So he feels more quiet and more relaxed. Then this man came to him. And as he approached this man, the journalist Cloud Warion that he has a sports car magazine, is on sports card magazine. Ask him a question, do you speak French and the etcetera repride I speak all the languages in the world. Then Claude Warrion ask him again, do you speak do you sorry? Did you come here often? Then he replied, I came here many times, and today I came to meet with you. You are Cloude Warrion because we telepathically induce you to come here today because we have a message for you.

7:50 Speaker 4: You are a sports car magazine, you are married, you have two children, and two weeks ago we telepathically induce you to buy a Bible from Laplayad, which is the only bible where the world. Elohim have not been mistranslated as God. So he invited him into his craft and give him the following message. Over twenty five thousand years ago, we came to this planet and we start creating all kinds of lives with genetic manipulations of DNA. They started with plants, all kinds of animals. Following their you know, their artists and technology, they started creating all kinds of birds, and after twelve thousand years they start creating the first human being in laboratory.

8:53 Speaker 5: So genetic engineering.

8:55 Speaker 4: Genetic engineering, because let's not forget they are twenty five thousand years ahead of us. They are the ones that sent all prophets from all religions, among the most important ones Moses, Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, and many others as they were over fourteen Israel. But what happened to all these prophets or most of the of them that were sent to Israel specifically that they were all either jail or killed because they were bringing a message that was bothering, that was destroying the meat of God.

9:34 Speaker 4: Right then then they now we have reached it, all Etceterastrial address Rael and told him now since nineteen forty five, sin the atomic bomb of Hiroshima on August six, we feel the arch to send It's about time that people we start understanding that with technology and with the atomic energy, you can either alto destroy yourselves or you can progress a lot.

10:18 Speaker 4: Then we feel the urge to send one last messenger. Then we contacted you that you are our last messenger. We are asking two aims from you. First of all, we're going to change your name to rah L, which is the root of the world Israel. And if you go to ancient texts in even in Egypt, rah was light. What's the sun light of the Yelohim right elo him? And also in Hebrew rah L which means he saw the Elohim. Then they ask him two aims. The first one is to spread this message worldwide. The second one was to build an embassy, which is the third temple the Jewish people want to build to welcome the Yellow Him.

11:17 Speaker 4: This is the main message because with genetic with genetic manipulations of DNA, today we are able to understand we today it's about time we stop believing and start understanding, which is we're bringing a message which is a fundamental truth and the only truth about the creation of life on earth. And this is why you know so many people are discrediting us, saying whatever they want, because it bothers the system, it bothers the Church, it bothers the Vatican, it bothers already turns Islam, well did Judas, because we're checking the basis of all religions now.

12:07 Speaker 5: And let me get this. I want to get this by I have no problem with any of that. Honestly, I've heard crazier things from the most sane people in the world. I think most people what they want is where did the cult label come from?

12:26 Speaker 4: Like?

12:26 Speaker 5: Who who started that? And why did it get why is the Raelian movements? And I want to get some of these questions. You answered like my first four questions with with what you just said, So I'm going to skip right to it. How did you guys end up get being labeled a cult? And you know, uh, the the down let's say, the downfall of the optics of the movement started to uh take hold in the mainstream. Do you think this was done by the religions? Do you think this was done by the deep state? Or is it warranted?

13:06 Speaker 4: Let me ask you another question. What makes the difference between a religious, a religion and a cult.

13:13 Speaker 5: See, I don't know, Well, I don't tell you.

13:17 Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you the number of people that are the number of members. Because at the beginning Christianity, after Jesu Jesus, it was a cult of Judaism, right, so, and then the Protestants are a cult of the Catholic

13:40 Speaker 4: So everything according to a number, according to the number of people that are that join the club. Let's say that makes a difference between a cult and a religion. Now why they put on us a label as a cult because we are disturbing the main establishment, Well, because we are bothering that Science today is confirming because there are three or three hypothesis that you can find. The first one is an immaterial God that is everywhere and this and that, and that's completely out. The second one is a Darwinism, which doesn't prove anything.

14:29 Speaker 5: No, it doesn't.

14:30 Speaker 4: And the third one is the third hypothesis that people from another civilization, a more advanced one, came to Earth many years ago and created us, and one day when we were going to reach technology to do it, we're going to go into another planet. Because maybe the governments of our planet will not allow it, and then we were going to create life. Now I have another not question, I have another information to give you. Okay, why all governments on Earth they are forbidden to have human cloning.

15:12 Speaker 5: That's a good question, because they don't want to play God, I think, but they don't want people playing God.

15:20 Speaker 4: The problem is that, first of all, there is no God and there is no soul. The second thing is that if in laboratory a man or a woman create another human being, there is no more place for God. So the mystery of God will be over, which means the end of all religions. And that's what's bothered because we're bringing a fundamental truth. We're bringing the only truth.

15:46 Speaker 5: I mean, it makes and I'll be completely honest with you, Rabbi. You know the genetic engineering of and it could explain a lot. You know, our brains double cosmically overnight, we shed if they want us to believe in evolution, we shed our fur just to need pelts in the winter. The sun it burns us. We have back problems. A lot of it doesn't really add up. So with that kind of stuff, with that the idea that an alien and I don't even like that word. But an extraterrestrial race of scientists feeding the cosmos, I have no problem with that.

16:31 Speaker 5: Really, I have no problem with that because I don't really subscribe to any religion. I think that they all have a little peace to the puzzle. And if we would step back and look and work together, I think there's nothing a united human race couldn't do. The story of the Tower of Babble comes to mind. You know, when humans get too close to the heavens, they're struck down and divided, made to speak different languages, made to look a little different, so that we fight amongst ourselves, and we never truly become what our potential is.

17:06 Speaker 5: So I have no problem with that. But a lot of people are going to ask about the rituals, the rituals that are really so there's been a lot of talk about like sex, and I don't really I just want to get this stuff out of the way.

17:25 Speaker 4: Let me explain to you something it's not. Sex is not a ritual. In the Message of the Yellow Him, sex is described as you cannot be a shame of your body. You can have sex with whoever you want with between adults. Very important, that's very important, just among adults that consent to have sex with another person, nothing to be forced, nothing to no one will rape, no one. We are not in that in that field at all. This is the label that they put on us, to defamate us, to discredit us. And as I said, because our message is destroying the meat of God, they don't want that to happen because religion wants to grab everyone by fear, the fear of God, the fear of Hell, the fear after dying.

18:29 Speaker 4: And that's all lie. That's all a lie. You know. I'm coming from a religious Sephardic Jewish family.

18:39 Speaker 5: Oh that's right. Yeah, I want to say that.

18:41 Speaker 4: And I can't prove I have been. I am in the Raliah movement for almost forty years, since the very beginning. I have started lecturing in Montreal, in the United States, in Europe, right in Israel, where I live for eighty years, and I have I'm not lecturing just with words. I'm lecturing with proofs from the original Hebrew Bible and other Hebrew texts confirming the Ylohim mentioned in the Tanak, which is the original liberw Bible, and all ancient texts are an extraterrestal civilization period.

19:25 Speaker 4: The original Hebrew Bible in Hebrew doesn't talk about one time, doesn't talk about a single God, talk about the Yelohim, which means the plural of the world aloha, which means in ancient Hebrew, those who came from the skies. And there is a big difference. And when I give lectures to Jewish people that understand Hebrew, that makes a big difference because most of Jews worldwide, they don't speak Hebrew. So for them it's no, No, no God, God, God good. But there is no God. The original hyper Bible doesn't mention the world God, God have been means translated from Elohim, which it's a plural of the world yloha meaning an ancient Hebrew also come from skies.

20:16 Speaker 4: And these people, it's very clear that everything that happened, even in Noah's Ark or whatever on most with Moses, with Jesus, with all of the prophets, are simply a truth, are simply the truth. And this truth is what make us, you know, so dangerous, right for those in power we are we are a danger for them because we're revealing the truth. But what's wrong with the truth if you can't prove. Listen, in all the lectures I have been given worldwide I have been giving, I have given hundreds of lectures already, with all citations from the original Hebrew Bible.

21:06 Speaker 4: I invite always rabbis, scholarships, Hebrew scholarships from Yeshivots and everywhere to come and join. You know what, they don't come. Sometimes they have rabbis there trying to avoid people to come into the lecture, not to listen.

21:25 Speaker 5: Why some protesting outside?

21:28 Speaker 4: Essentially yeah, outside, they ask people not to enter. Really, oh yeah, why they are so afraid of the truth. I invite them to come and tell them. Listen, if what I am saying here, all the citations that I am bringing here are not truth or according to you, you can destroy the citations or you can't tell me. This man is like, come into me and prove the opposite. But they can't prove the opposite. This is why they tried to avoid people to come, and they cannot even come. Well, they don't want to come because they, oh, no, we don't want to hear about it.

22:08 Speaker 4: Why you don't want to hear? You have more knowledge than myself, probably as a Hebrew scholarship or as a rabbi from any congregation, come and make me feel ridiculous in front of everyone. Why don't you do it? Because they cannot prove the opposite as simple as that. If do you.

22:28 Speaker 5: Think now, now, of course, science is a big part of the Relian philosophy. Do you think that in the modern times people are they're so kind of black and white one or zero that they discredit like so they'll believe in Jesus. Right, the same person who believes in Jesus, that Jesus was a real person, that he turned water into wine, he healed people, those same people will tell you that there's no such thing as UFOs. There's no such thing, right, So you see what.

23:12 Speaker 4: I'm going with this. Jesus was the son of one of the most important of this I don't like to call him e sat Rasea, this civilization, a more advanced civilization called the Yellow him that came to Earth. Jesus was the son of one of the most important of these human beings out there on other planet. That and a woman of the Earth. Now, I'm gonna tell you I was talking even to to some priests and some theological people, and I have told him you have any idea why his mother was a virgin. Oh, yeah, because of the Holy Spirit of the No.

23:55 Speaker 4: No, she was telepathically she was telepath not telepathically, sorry, she was. She got pregnant by simply in part in like in vitro, in vitro, exactly in vitro right.

24:16 Speaker 5: So so she was wasn't immaculate.

24:19 Speaker 4: It was eiminated artificially.

24:22 Speaker 5: Right, which which totally makes sense. And again course of this where religion.

24:28 Speaker 4: Another another other, many other things that make sense. Is that many of the prophets of Israel, their their mothers were not able to have children. And then they told you in the in the in the in the Bible, they told you she met with the with the men of the yello Him, and then she got pregnant. What means in Hebrew she met with the man of the Yellohim, which means they had they had intercourse as simple as that. Now, if you take another example of Abraham, his wife Sarah, she was almost ninety something ninety two when she got pregnant, but I never had children.

25:10 Speaker 4: Then three of the yellow him they can and then she talked, they said, she talked with one of them called.

25:20 Speaker 5: Yahweh, yahweh. Yes.

25:23 Speaker 4: Then she talked to him, and then she got pregnant, and the man told her, you will be pregnant, and then she laughed. This is why she called her son eas hag, which means she laughed, because she laughed. This hawk in Hebrew is to laugh. Now, now I have a question with that. I always questioned myself with that was Isaac the son of Abraham? Or was he the son of Yaveh Ylohim? That's another question because if she was insiminated artificially right like Mary, is possible that was not Abraham the father of Isaac.

26:04 Speaker 5: Huh.

26:05 Speaker 4: And when they say also that Abraham wants to sacrifice his son Isaac, was it Isaac or was it Ismael the son of the servant that he had?

26:18 Speaker 5: Right?

26:18 Speaker 4: Which because and you know today that in the Muslims they tell you the sacrifice what for Ismael and not for Isaac. This is why on the Idel queer, which means they slaughtered the sheeps, they do it in remembrance of that that the Ismael, which all the Muslims are, are their descendants. Remember that it was a sacrifice of Ismael and not the sacrifice of Isaac. And they slaughtered the sheep, so powerful, you know, bringing something that is putting down all the all the religions and all the myth of God, and that that's the only thing if you have, you know, in how came the Inquisition?

27:18 Speaker 4: The Inquisition during the time of Isabelle the Catholic in Spain, they start saying that the Jewish people were drinking the blood of the child on Friday night to bless the wine. And at the time of the of the Germans, at the time of Itra, they were saying that, oh, women were disappearing in the shops or the boutiques, clothing boutiques from Jewish people. When you want to discred someone, or you want to put black or you want to throw a garbage on someone, it's very easy because it bothers you.

28:00 Speaker 4: This is why I will say, no matter if they talk bad or good on ask the important is that they talk about because we're important and they cannot avoid us anymore. They can't because you bring a fundamental truth, very simple.

28:17 Speaker 5: What made you growing up in a pretty traditional religious household, what made you go from you know, traditional, what brought you into the Raelian movement? And when did that happen? Was it early on? Was it later on?

28:35 Speaker 4: A very good question. I was in Canada when I discovered this message, and when I took and when I read this book as a Jew, I wanted prove. So what I did. I didn't speak Hebrew at that time. I took the messages that rail brought from dielo In. I took an original Hebrew Byble, and I took a dictionary French Hebrew, and I started translating sentences that confirmed without the slight doubt. The Yellow Him from the Bible mentioned in the original Hebrow Bible are an extra terrestrial civilization. Our people from another civilization are more advanced civilization that came to Earth and created all lives on Earth.

29:27 Speaker 4: Now, if you take the even what happened with Noah at the time of the flood, what happened there, do you think any ship today or any vessel can keep all the animals two of this one and seven of the other one, plus the food, plus all the the shit or whatever you want to call it. That's impossible. There's nothing like that today, not even today, we have not a vessel like that. So what the Yellow Him did is that they took just a cell of each animal and they reproduce it through cloning after the flood, and then it was all in a small box like that, not more than that.

30:10 Speaker 5: Well yeah, and that's a good point. Actually, So the Ralians made international headlines when you know with the human cloning claim.

30:18 Speaker 4: Absolutely was that Relian excuse me, not the reliance. It was it was a lady, which is Raeliant, right, Okay, she had a laboratory and she claimed that she created the first human being in laboratory, which you call f.

30:41 Speaker 5: Was it real?

30:42 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. You should ask her because everybody's telling everybody's telling you your reliance created one clone. It's not the reliance, it's someone else. I mean, if someone is a is a butcher and is Aurelian and he's cutting stakes, he is a butcher, it's not because it's a Raelian.

31:03 Speaker 5: I am. That's you know what I can I can understand that because like you know, just like if I was a Christian and I and I I murdered someone, that doesn't make Christians bad.

31:16 Speaker 4: Exactly if you take if you take at the same time with all the thousands or hundreds of thousands of pedophile priests, it's not because some priests abstophile, that all the Christians are pedophils as well, exactly, and they never have been accused of any any nothing in court or any any problems either ill or maybe you know, some reliance could maybe because we live in a society and we welcome everyone, so we have people that are maybe criminals, maybe pedophiles, maybe uh insane, who knows, like every in every religion the religion, but it doesn't mean that because someone believes in something different from you, you should tax everyone from being either a pedophile or a criminal or whatever you want.

32:17 Speaker 5: Right, and you know what that again again you make a very good point. But well, okay, so with the idea of cloning, what what do you where do you stand on the ethics of cloning?

32:33 Speaker 4: Listen to clone a human being? We're going to reach to that point.

32:37 Speaker 5: Sooner or later someone's gonna do that.

32:39 Speaker 4: That's the only way to create human life, and that's the only way to reach eternal life. Let me tell you what Yellow Him the technology of dalow Him today is very very advanced that we cannot even understand the yellow Him. They live between seven hundred and one thousand years at a certain age that the body gets start getting too old between seven hundred and a thousand, they just take a cell of the same person. They have a special machine for that computers. I don't know. Don't tell me rightly that in his book.

33:27 Speaker 4: Now they can put that cell in a machine and with DNA or all the organic elements of DNA, they can recreate exactly the same person. Now the same way we today that have maybe an old computer by a new computer, and we tell a download all the memory from the old computer into the new one. The yellow him have the technology that when they create that new body, they can transfer all the memory, all the intelligence, all the souvenirs of that old body into the new one, and that could be eternally. It means this is the only way to reach eternal life, right by downloading all the memory of these human beings into the new body that created with the same cell, which means it's the same individual that we live for another between seven hundred and another thousand years.

34:37 Speaker 5: But you're going off the notion that we don't have a soul, right, of course not so so.

34:45 Speaker 4: The soul and God are two crushes for the people that needs faith. We don't have faith. We understand we don't believe. We understand that's the only difference between our relian and someone who practice religions. One crash is God and the other one is sold. Oh my soul. After I will die, I will go to heaven.

35:09 Speaker 5: But you understand why that could be comforting to people though, right,

35:14 Speaker 5: Sorry that you understand why that most people want to believe they have a soul and that they go to heaven because it makes dying less scary. Of course, do you think that that is what's stopping people from understanding the truth?

35:30 Speaker 4: No? No, no, no no, no. People are people are you know, people are afraid of the truth that can change their lives, that can change their beliefs. I have you know, as a Jew, I have so many people that contacted me. You know you are part of us, and you cannot go out because it demolished the basic of the basis of Judaism. And I don't care if it takes the basis or the freedom or the foundations of the Judaism. I'm telling here the truth and I can prove it. It's not that I'm inventing it in this book that we call Intelligent Designer.

36:12 Speaker 4: I don't know if you can see through.

36:14 Speaker 5: In front of it's blocking you.

36:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's blocking me with with anyways, It's okay, what's it called intelligent design? That you see my website behind me, Rayle dot org. In that book you can download it for free in any language you want. You go into our website Ryal dot org and you can download the book Intelligent Design for free. Okay, yeah, so question no name asks nothing, not even not even your email or your or whatever. Intelligent design. Then you have it.

36:54 Speaker 5: So message from the designers.

36:57 Speaker 4: Message from the designers, and you can download it for free on Rayl dot orgy.

37:01 Speaker 5: All right, and I'll put the link in the description for below for anyone who does want that here here because again I know we kind of started with some of the more controversial stuff. Here's the last one until I start getting into more theology theological questioning. How is the Raelian movement structured hierarchically and financially? Is there transparency and what techs exist against the abuse of power? Because we see a problem in scientology, which is obviously I know you're familiar with scientology and other places.

37:40 Speaker 5: The financial aspect, you know, you pay into it for your whole life, your all, your savings. Is there any checks against that?

37:49 Speaker 4: Listen, in the Raliant movement, we what's written in the book is that we need to give one percent of our income to help accomplish this mission.

38:01 Speaker 5: But only one percent.

38:03 Speaker 4: Only one percent then not real. But other guides in the in the Reeliant structure decided that with one percent, we cannot spread the message. We cannot rent the holes, we cannot print books, we cannot do anything. Of course, so they decided they decided to do like in other religions, which basket that is the dem that you know, the dem was equivalent to ten percent. So this ten percent, These guides from the movement, which were the head of the movement at the beginning of the movement, they decided that why don't we ask ten percent?

38:45 Speaker 4: Now, people who have two hundred thousand dollars per year, it's very easy for them to give twenty thousand. Those who who make twenty thousand, they cannot give two thousand. So it's not imposed to anyone. The ten percent not to anyone. There is a minimum contribution which is one hundred dollars in the US per year per member, which doesn't go very far. And those who want to give to one hundred thousand. They give it in all the religions. You have seen when the catrall are Notre Dame burned in France, mister Arnault he gave one billion for the church.

39:30 Speaker 4: Okay, So if we have, if mister Arnault become reliant one day, I hope it will give us that one billion for the Radiant movement, then we will be able to build our embassy, which is the third temple we're looking for.

39:45 Speaker 5: That raises a good question. Now the obviously everybody can see the headlines right now Israel Iran, everything that's going on. You know, it's very bloody, it's very dehumanizing. Where do the Raelians stand on I mean, it looks like we're headed towards the end of times. If you were to go on the Biblical road, it looks like we're headed towards the end of the world. Right, So where do you guys stand? And will the ylo Him intervene if something were to happen.

40:27 Speaker 4: Well, I don't think the Yellow Him will intervene. But since you know, the state of Israel was created in nineteen forty eight for one only reason that the people of Israel will get there from north southeast and west

40:50 Speaker 4: to help the last Messenger of dyelow Him, which is the long awaited Messiah is Ral.

40:59 Speaker 5: Without any doubt, without any doubt.

41:02 Speaker 4: Without any doubt, we'll get into the Messenger of the Yellow Him. He is the Messiah, the long awaited Messiah. We are in the Messianic time. We have been asking since the last forty five or forty eight years to Israel to give us the piece of land where to build this third temple. They have neglected. They have refused several times.

41:31 Speaker 5: Because I wonder why, as Yeah.

41:33 Speaker 4: Elohim told himself, these are the people with the stiff neck. My people are the people with the stiff neck.

41:42 Speaker 6: Yeah, they don't want to see all the all the messengers, all the prophets that were sent to Israel, they were all either executed or jailed, all of them, no exception.

41:53 Speaker 4: Daniel was throwing to the lions. Jesus was given an accused falsely through to the Romans that Elijah was had to hide in a cave because they wanted to kill him. Listen, the story is there. And since two thy fifteen, Yellow Him, draw the protection. Withdraw the protection upon the people of Israel, which they have been protecting since years before they return to the land of Israel, before the Land of Israel was the independence of the State of Israel in nineteen forty eight, they were two thousand years in exile.

42:44 Speaker 4: Why because they kill Jesus who was bringing the same message Rayeley is bringing to death and that doesn't fit, doesn't help. They don't want to hear that. Why they don't come to the leg so that they gave a Hebrew and show and they see what what all the proof that I bring from the original Hebrew Bible another Hebrew texts confirmed without the slight doubt. The Elohim are an extra terrest civilization. Okay, I don't want to hear about it. Why because they cannot prove the opposite, so they prefer to hide.

43:24 Speaker 5: Well, do you think it's because that I mean the because because let's let's say it, I am neutral. I don't I don't think one way or the other. I let everybody do what they want to do, how they want to do it. And I do not judge anybody on their religious beliefs, their practices, or any of it. And that's just the way I was raised.

43:49 Speaker 4: So that's admirable.

43:50 Speaker 5: But but they're not exactly. That's the problem.

43:56 Speaker 4: And we are. We are If we see all all the stars, all the universe, every human being is part of the other one. We are all one, and what are we trying to do? We live in a crazy world, we do. Everyone cares about himself and they don't care about the others. I agree, And this is why there is so much anger, so much ear, so much killing each other. Why if we are all one, and we are a cell of this huge body that composed humanity. It's like you have the cell of your hand shooting the cell of your feet, but it's the same body.

44:41 Speaker 4: But people still stupid. We see people don't understand and don't't want to understand. They want just to believe.

44:49 Speaker 5: Well do I mean, do you do? You see the optics though? So the optics now now, whether whether it's true or not, okay, Because if if someone accused me of being uh like, I abused my partner domestically, I beat up my girlfriend. But I have a I have a fundamental truth. I'm saying one plus one equals two, But I have this negative baggage that comes with me, right because I beat my partner. So nobody wants to associate with me, so they can't hear the one plus one equals to so so I think, I think you have to change public perception of what the what it means to be Aralian.

45:37 Speaker 4: Well, it means to be realiant. First of all, we are for absolute non violence, absolute non violence. This is our our main, our main commandment. Let's let's call it that way, absolute non violence. We meditate for peace. We send love and and it to in the entire planet, and we do it on a daily basis, on hourly basis. We do it every fifty nine minutes of every hour. We meditate for peace once every two months. We have a planet Chary Meditation, a global Meditation for peace, where we gather three hundred eight hundred people wants every two months and they can trend you the link and then you can invite your your auditors if they want to join us.

46:32 Speaker 4: It will be great because the more we gather together, the more we are, the better it is. I understand how powerful it is.

46:43 Speaker 5: Definitely, I understand.

46:46 Speaker 4: You were asking a question about Israel and Palestine.

46:50 Speaker 5: Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, and we we deviated a little bit.

46:56 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, what's going on is the result of our actions. The people of Israel are not protected anymore since August twenty fifteen, and there is a message from the Yellow Him through the mouth of the last prophet Rail that all real Jews must leave Israel. Because every time that the Jewish people didn't listen to the prophets, they lost their land and there was a new diaspora. And this diaspora, unfortunately is coming, and it is coming, I think very soon. It's not just for circumstances or for the pleasure that there are worlds and this and that.

47:54 Speaker 4: You know, it's the Jewish people have in their commandments not to hell and love their neighbor like their own. What's happening there right now, it's not according to Judaism. It's completely against Judaism. But we need to understand doesn't mean because someone is a Zionist or Israeli that he's Jew. This Jew. Jews don't allow that. And this is why Yellow Him have mentioned in this message all Jews, all real Jews, must leave the state of Israel. It's very simple. So those who could live, they live.

48:48 Speaker 4: Those who don't want to listen and they want to stay, well, unfortunately they will suffer the consequences because there is no more subpection upon Israel like it was in sixty seven when it was the sixth Day, were that they want.

49:03 Speaker 5: Yeah, in six days they got everybody.

49:07 Speaker 4: Or six armies already or four armies, that's over. In seventy three they still protected. Not today, unfortunately, not today. Maybe if they understand, one day they welcome the last Messenger of the Yellow him who is the long awaited Messiah, the Messiah they're waiting for, and they land him the ground, they grant him with the land to build this third Temple, as the Yellohim requests. Maybe maybe there is a very slight chance that the embassy will be built in Israel. But but it should be with the Palestinians and not just Israeli Jews, because the Palestinians, when originally are Jews who couldn't live the land of Israel and had to convert.

50:06 Speaker 4: There's more Jews if you if you see the chromosomes, they are more Jews genetically than those who came from Ukraine and those who came from Poland and also come from Russia. That they are the Zionists today who build the state of Israel. Because the Ashkenazis rules are not original descendants of the Son of Elohim and women of the earth their their their chief converted to Judaism and he forced everyone to convert. And this is why the Ashkenas came from from the from the Kazars. I don't know if you about it now, what is this the Kazars the Cossacks at that time?

50:58 Speaker 5: Okay, can you explain that someone who has no idea what you're talking about?

51:02 Speaker 4: People that were in Eastern Europe. There was one of the chiefs there who decided to convert to Judaism, and then he asked everyone to convert to Judaism, and this is why they came from. Now, what what I was mentioning before is that the Jews, the people, the Jewish people, the original Jewish people that they were in the Middle East. They were descendants of this son of Fellow Him and women of the earth, like it's written in the Bible. Okay, the son of Fellow Him had intercourse with women of the earth and they had children of that were very famous.

51:49 Speaker 5: Right, So because they were they were hybrid if you will.

51:53 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, they were son of etcetera Australian one man of the earth like Jesus was like many other prophets. Now the original of the origin of these people, who are the Sephardic Jews that are people from the Middle East, North Africa and Iraq, Iran and all that these are the ones that are descendant of the yelo Him because they came from that area. And this not because like Ashkenazi Jews who were as to convert to Judaism because of their king or because of the chief became, they have not the genes of the yelo Him.

52:39 Speaker 4: They're not descendant directly of the right like others the Pardic Jews understood.

52:46 Speaker 5: Okay, so closer to and that makes sense. That makes sense. So do I mean I kind of want to shift it here because I want to know what I really do want to know this. Do you believe that governments have already made like modern governments like the United States government? Do you think that they've made contact with extraterrestrial civilizations? Do you think that they have knowledge that they aren't telling us.

53:17 Speaker 4: They have knowledge, They know that we even have been created by ETCeteras.

53:23 Speaker 5: It could be the reason for the secrecy.

53:25 Speaker 4: There, but they're afraid to spread it because according to them, people are not ready and they and they will avoid it as long as they can. Why because of the power of power regions, religions period. Don't tell them Muslim today that there is no God and we have been created by etcetera. Go to Iran, go to Saudi Arabia and tell them there is no God.

53:54 Speaker 5: Yeah you get thrown off the building. Yeah yeah soon.

54:00 Speaker 4: Pempul as that as reliance that we have reliance in Muslim countries, they need to be very very very careful because if they find out, they kill them.

54:14 Speaker 5: That's the sad reality, that's the sad truth.

54:17 Speaker 4: Listen, you're going to tell how how the governments are going to manage when if they said there is no God, all the Muslims will stand and will fight for the she had, how the how the Jewish people will will will will will behave. If you're telling them, oh, there is no God, how.

54:38 Speaker 5: Come you shadow whole beliefs?

54:42 Speaker 4: You're shaking the whole belief And this is why we are so discriminated, We are so blame for even things that we haven't done, because there is nothing against us, nothing, nothing against in any court in nowhere, no complaints against him other for say, ex for this.

55:06 Speaker 5: They all bullshit well, okay, so how did the Netflix How did Netflix get Let's I'm gonna ask you straight up, how did Netflix get it so wrong? If what you're saying is true.

55:18 Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to tell you, if it was for me, I won't have given the opportunity to Netflix, because I knew since the beginning. These French people are leaded by

55:32 Speaker 4: by Rome. These people are leaded by their government. These people are leaded by the Catholic Church. Okay, and what is going to happen soon is that the first religion that will fall because of this truth, of this fundamental truth, will be the Catholic religion.

55:53 Speaker 5: I thought so, yeah, because it's.

55:55 Speaker 4: Written the carpeder Rome. It means in our man in Arabic, which is the ancient language of the Hebrew people at the time of Jesus, the Rome will be destroyed. But I'm not necessarily the city of Rome, but the Vatican will be destroyed specifically, specifically, so it will be the end. It's the beginning of the end. If you take all the prophecies from Malachi, this last pop that passed away was supposed to be the last one, and they put another one. Yeah, you read the Prophecis of Malachi. This was the one hundred and twelve pop It shouldn't be more, but they put another one that.

56:51 Speaker 4: You know, we can keep going with the lie because the biggest lie, the biggest lie, comes from Vatican for power.

57:04 Speaker 5: I know. I just interviewed Danny Sheen. Danny Shean is a very very interesting person and he's been inside the Vatican article Vatican archives, and he says that they have proof that extraterrestrial civilizations have visited Earth and they are hiding it.

57:28 Speaker 4: Of course they're hiding it. You know that when the when the Romans birth the Second Temple in Jerusalem, they took everything they could, scripts artifacts, everything, they know everything. But not everybody in the Vatican have access to those files.

57:45 Speaker 5: Of course, yes, very limited secret.

57:49 Speaker 4: And if you have seen the movie the I think it was the Something with the Rose with chan Connery, Oh yeah, you see that. You know, they were just passing the pages and the ink well was poison so they die right right right?

58:09 Speaker 5: Okay, So moving on, how does the how does the Raelian movement view current global disclosure efforts? Yesterday, uh, I think it was the United Kingdom the they announced that they're going to be holding hearings having to do with UFOs, other people like Louis Alessandro, David Grush, other whistleblowers. Have you guys been tracking this?

58:39 Speaker 4: No, No, we're going to our message. We don't change anything. We spreading it. That's our goal.

58:47 Speaker 5: And that's you don't know who I just said, Uh, well, I.

58:51 Speaker 4: Didn't heard about them or I didn't pay attention to them.

58:54 Speaker 5: Okay, so you don't know who Louis Alessando.

58:57 Speaker 4: Is, Louis Alexandro. No, I have no, No Elison, no Alexander. No, I don't. Maybe maybe some others know, but you know, I don't. I keep my my track on what I know because sometimes I'm invited to Uh, I was invited to talk in an interview with the with the priests, and oh, you know about the Holy Spirit, and I'm Jewish. I don't know about the Second Testament.

59:27 Speaker 3: Stories.

59:27 Speaker 4: You know, I'm telling you what the original is and what the original. You took the original Bible and you mistranslated for your own benefit and you change the words elo Him for God.

59:40 Speaker 5: And we've seen this, and let's I just want to be clear with everybody that the Bible, it was handpicked by human beings, absolutely, you know what I mean. So the when they chose the what was going to go into the Bible, it was it was essentially, you know, carefully selected by a group of human beings that weren't you know, they're not Jesus, they're not God. Of course, if you do believe in that they chose what was going to be shown. And so I have a big problem with misinterpretation, and so I kind of am in agreement with you there.

1:00:23 Speaker 5: I will say that. But what would you say? Okay, if the Alohim returned tomorrow, how should humanity prepare? Who do you think they would contact first? I think I know the answer.

1:00:37 Speaker 4: But well, their messenger is the one that should be conducted first.

1:00:42 Speaker 3: Where he is?

1:00:43 Speaker 4: Who Israel? Now? Yellow him? Good? Came any time they want, because they're not invaders. They are our fathers from space, which wants people to understand and to welcome them. They don't want to invite us. They can come and take over the entire planet and do whatever they want to all blow it up if they want, but it's not what they want. They don't want people to attack them with F sixteen or whatever, because you know, these are toys for them, but they don't want to kill any human being because we are their children, right.

1:01:19 Speaker 4: They want to come that people will understand, and this is why they gave this message to real to spread this message worldwide and to build them an embassy, which means when you have an embassy, you the one that owns those who own the embassy. Like in every embassy that is established in any country, you cannot go in because you want to. You need to be you need to be invited, right, because it's like their country. So the same way Yellow Him wants to have an embassy, which is a third temple where they can come and meet with all our governments and meet with people that respect them and understand they are our fathers from space, not just oh they want to come and invite us, and oh we need to prepare to launch missiles at them and bomb.

1:02:16 Speaker 4: That's stupid. These people are twenty five thousand years ahead of us. They can move the entire solar system if they want. They are able to move an entire solar system.

1:02:30 Speaker 5: Okay, how you picked my interest?

1:02:35 Speaker 4: Read the book and you will know they don't tell you. They don't tell you. They don't tell you. They don't tell you how they do it. They are able to. Let's not forget twenty five thousand years ahead of us. Now. If I ask you what kind of car in three generations will be driving your grandson, you don't know. How do we going to live in one hundred years from now? You don't know?

1:03:05 Speaker 5: This is true.

1:03:06 Speaker 4: If at the time of my grandfather, of my or or or or the great grandfather, you show him a television, maybe we'll go behind to see if someone was hiding there, or he will put his face on the earth and say, well, God is talking to me.

1:03:24 Speaker 5: Wow. Yeah, there's a good point.

1:03:26 Speaker 4: You raise a list, listen, don't try to to today. How even if I if I at the time of my grandfather, if I was showing a telephone, a cell phone, woo, how can you talk to someone? This is magic.

1:03:43 Speaker 5: And distinguished and and and whoever I was speaking with that helped coordinate this. The first thing that they sent me was actually it was kind of a synchronicity because I had just said that quote. It was any technology

1:04:02 Speaker 5: that has advanced enough is indistinguishable from magic. Right, So if we transported a nuclear reactor, you know, Bob Lazar said this very very famously. He's the one who who said he worked at Area fifty one. I don't know if you know this this story, but h he had said. You know, it's almost like when we're trying to reverse engineer these craft. It's like if you transported a nuclear reactor into you know, Rome, and the scientists in Rome were looking at it, well, they would all keep going up and dying because of radiation exposure because they don't know what they're doing.

1:04:45 Speaker 5: They don't know what they're exposing themselves to. And I thought it was a very very good visual visual Now what what what? Okay, what's your take on the alien abduction phenomena.

1:05:01 Speaker 4: Listen, we are not alone in the universe. There are billions of galaxies, of solar system and of planets. The Yellow hint they don't need to adopt us because they created us, but they have also created our civilization that maybe they're looking for the truth. And at the end of the book Intelligence Design, on the third section it is written, there is another etc. Another civilization that we have created and they're looking for the truth. But we don't want to interfere with them telling them the truth.

1:05:43 Speaker 4: If they come to you and you meet them one day, give them the messages, not us, because they don't want to interfere with them. Maybe they're not prepared for that, or maybe they don't have the technology, or maybe they are very aggressive. I don't know. It's written in the book at the end of the of the third book. On the third book, you can have that.

1:06:07 Speaker 5: So, so what you're saying is the elohem created not just humanity, but some other planet, maybe some other solar system.

1:06:18 Speaker 4: They know, not some other solar system Solar systems are there. They didn't create planet Earth or solar systems, oh no.

1:06:27 Speaker 5: No, no, but they created another civilization.

1:06:29 Speaker 4: Some realization, yes, on other planets and the according to the messages, they created for some survives I did, some didn't.

1:06:39 Speaker 5: And that's who we might be seeing they might be. Is that what you're saying is maybe some UFO sightings are this other civilization that was created.

1:06:51 Speaker 4: The Elohim have created for civilizations in all according to the message, we are one of them, and two I think have disappeared and there is another one left. So

1:07:07 Speaker 4: we don't know much because you know it's it's well, the infinite universe, it's it. I mean, there there are thousands of extra restras civilizations out there now to reach to reach a certain level that we can communicate with them. First of all, we need to avoid we need to be non violent, and we have a big step to do because we are a bunch of crazy while people killing each other with no reason. You tell us soldier, oh we are Ukrainians, you should go and kill the Russians. Oh you are Israeli, you should and kill Palestinians.

1:07:49 Speaker 4: People are stupid because the one that gives the order and the one that pulled the trigger is as responsible the one that pulled the trigger than the one that gives the order. And this is why we are the only religion which you can call religion, because we are related to the Yellow Him. And this is what the world religions mean religary in Latin, which means we are connected to Now, according to the yelow Him, we should be absolute non violent because as long as we are violent, we're going to this auto destroy ourselves with all nuclear bombs we have on planet Earth.

1:08:32 Speaker 4: We are completely out of our minds.

1:08:36 Speaker 5: I agree now, I will openly agree with that.

1:08:39 Speaker 4: Now, if we want to reach a level that we can contact with other extraterselvi civilization. We should be non violent, otherwise we will never reach that level to be able to contact with our extra civilization because before that, we're going to this auto destroy ours else because we represent a danger to the other civilizations. And this will happen automatically. It's the law of the universe, right, right.

1:09:13 Speaker 5: People act in their own self interest, and it's almost like it's human nature.

1:09:19 Speaker 4: And this is why since the last fifty two years, why Rael have been spreading these mess worldwide.

1:09:29 Speaker 5: Okay, so if what you're saying is okay, I'm gonna actually let me back up because I want to stay, you know, kind of in my lane here. What would you say to a skeptic, like someone who has a little bit skeptical, maybe they don't believe and they listen to this and think that Realianism is dangerous or delusional? What would you say to that?

1:09:57 Speaker 4: First of all, there is only one thing. First of all, we are not selling books here or asking any money to.

1:10:05 Speaker 5: Someone to buy someone or someone like.

1:10:08 Speaker 4: That, or to join us. First of all, read the book with an open mind.

1:10:14 Speaker 5: Well, you just said you were selling a book, but then you're telling people to read the book Oh, it's free. It's free. It's free. It's okay.

1:10:21 Speaker 4: You can't download it for free unless you want to have an original copy. Then you need to pay for it, like ok because we pay for it as well.

1:10:30 Speaker 5: My wires got crossed there. I forgot that you said. Okay, now sorry.

1:10:34 Speaker 4: The books can be downloaded for free unless you want to have the printed copy. Then you pay for it, which I do everybody every book you want to buy, either a book or well.

1:10:47 Speaker 5: There's like a little there's a little joke in the UFO community that there's always a book.

1:10:52 Speaker 4: Let me answer your question. After you read this book with an open mind, that read it from the beginning to the end. If it's for you, fine, If it's not for you, put in the garbage anyways, put it in the basket because it didn't cost you a penny. Now, after you read it, just ask yourself just one question, because there is only one. What if this is the truth?

1:11:24 Speaker 4: What if this is the truth?

1:11:28 Speaker 5: Oh shit, that's a powerful word. That's I like that. I like that. I am I think. I don't know how to say this, because how do you distinguish between being spiritual movement and being accused of being part of a cult. And again we talked about that word. What is the difference between a religion and a cult? I don't see too much of a difference from my perspective, so again I only use that word pretty lightly. So how do you distinguish between being a spiritual movement or a psychological manipulation?

1:12:12 Speaker 5: Where's the line in your view? Does that make sense?

1:12:17 Speaker 4: There is no line. There are people that make their own mind and their own judgment. As you say, you don't judge, right, you respect you read, you like it, fine, you don't like it, fine, you don't need to join. You don't need to join. Just read the book and ask yourself, what if this is the truth? Yes or no? Period? I think, ask yourself a question. But now, as I say, to call someone with respect minoritary religion, which means the number of members is not as big as a Catholic members, or as a Muslims, or as a Jews, or as a Protestant or as others, it doesn't mean it's a cult.

1:13:05 Speaker 4: A cult, it's a it's a it's a bad word. It is for for for other for other religions that you don't recognize, that's a cult.

1:13:17 Speaker 5: Joe Rogan had a really funny joke about about this, and I brought Joe Rogan up for a reason. I'm sure you know who that is, but for two reasons. So Joe Rogan did this funny joke. He said, you know what's the difference between a religion and a cult. Well, the only difference is the leader is whoever started It has to be dead for it to be a religion.

1:13:42 Speaker 4: Right.

1:13:43 Speaker 5: Possibly, I know I would love to talk to him too. One day, I would love to talk to him.

1:13:50 Speaker 4: Well, listen, there there will be there's going to be the fifty eighth of University of the second encounter Rale had with Yellow him when they took him to their planet in nineteen seventy five on October seven, and this year on October seven, we're all going to be in Okinawa with Reel and you are most welcome to attend.

1:14:15 Speaker 5: Okay, he would sit down with me.

1:14:18 Speaker 4: He will sit if you have an interview with him and you're respectful.

1:14:22 Speaker 5: Yes, I would be completely respectful. He will sit down with me.

1:14:27 Speaker 4: Perfect. Yeah, I can I can arrange that. Okay, Okay, I can arrange that, no problem. You need to confirm that you're coming and then I will talk to the people in charge of the public relations and we can arrange that meeting, no problem. And you can even attend the seminar doing seven days and judge by yourself. There is nothing like sexual or orgies or children or whatever.

1:14:50 Speaker 5: That's I would love to yes, I would love to listen.

1:14:54 Speaker 4: You know again, it's gonna, it's gonna, it's gonna be there for seven days away, a full week will be with him.

1:15:02 Speaker 5: Beautiful. This that's amazing. Okay, we'll work on that. I want to. I'm gonna I put the script away. I'm gonna I'm gonna go off script here a little bit. Because so the second thing, Joe Rogan, the reason I brought him up was have you ever heard of the Heaven's.

1:15:21 Speaker 4: Gate, the heaven Gate? I think it was a movie on that, No, Yes Gate or something like that, the heaven Gate. Yeah. Yeah.

1:15:31 Speaker 5: But so they also believed that extraterrestrial is It was similar in the in the I wouldn't say it was like the same. I wouldn't say that, but it was similar in the notion of extraterrestrial creators and even in scientology. I think that's the case that they believe that extraterrestrials created humanity. It's it's the different in approaches that separates them. Because with Heaven's Gate, the leader forced them into suicide so that they and it was during the Hail Bob comment when it was coming over, he told them all that they had to commit suicide so that they could get into their souls, into the uh No, that's that's that's Waco, David Koresh.

1:16:28 Speaker 5: But it's similar someone that. But so I think people might be a little bit weary of of and and I say this with all due respect, with a world where that can happen, where the Jim Jones is, the David Koresh is, where these cult leaders, because I think that is a cult right, forcing your members into suicide, that's crazy.

1:16:57 Speaker 4: This is why real always give, give tell us something.

1:17:04 Speaker 5: So he's not asking anyone.

1:17:07 Speaker 4: If I ask you to do something against your consciousness, don't do it. And even if the Yellow him ask you to do something against your consciousness, don't do it.

1:17:21 Speaker 5: I agree.

1:17:22 Speaker 4: We are the only ones and the only religion that have that mandate not violence. We live here for love, for pleasure, for sharing and caring about others, and for full love and respect of every human being, of every animal, of every three with consciousness, consciousness.

1:17:50 Speaker 5: I'm glad you, I'm glad.

1:17:51 Speaker 4: You're not which someone will give you an order that you execute like an idiot. Because this is why what all the souldi zoo, all the governments do, all the generals of the army do they give orders? And the other stupid is killing someone that he doesn't know that didn't do anything to him because he received an order.

1:18:15 Speaker 5: Wow, this is crazy.

1:18:17 Speaker 4: That's absolutely lack of consciousness, total, absolutely lack of consciousness. Which should be content because in the message that the Yellow Him gave to Rail, they say, just threatening someone should be considered as if he committed that crime. I agree, threatening someone is like if you do the same action, you shouldn't and you shouldn't follow any order that goes against your conscienceness, even if it comes from Rayel himself or from the Yellow Him.

1:18:56 Speaker 5: Where do you think evil comes from? It's clearly tangible.

1:19:01 Speaker 4: We are the evil. We are the evil. Didn't create us with evil we for because of greed, because of selfishness, we became greedy, we became killus. This is why when the when it happened with the Tower of Babbel. At the time of the Towel of Babbel, some people it was not a towel. It was a space ship that wants to go to the Loohem planet and fight with them. Now with them, Yes, the Tower of Babbel was not a towel. It was a spaceship. And it's written also in the book. They want to go up to the Yellohim planet and fight with them.

1:19:55 Speaker 5: Oh, fight with them, fight against them, against them.

1:19:59 Speaker 4: Oh, then they changed all the languages and nobody could understand the other.

1:20:05 Speaker 5: This is what I said earlier.

1:20:07 Speaker 4: I can't go even further than that. When when the Jewish people at that time, because they were they were all that happened in the Middle East, in Mesopotamia which is actual Iraq, when that happened, and some people left to go right and left, and they invited their old word. Some of these people in that area reached the coast of of Scotland. And why do they call it Scotland because there is a celebration in the Jewish religion. There is a celebration which is called Succot. Succot means a shack.

1:20:54 Speaker 4: And when they saw the shacks from the fishermen from the fisherman that they had some shacks where they had their there are things there. They remember the word Hebrew suc caught succot, which means a chuck, and they call it succot. And they knew the word. The land was English, so they knew the word land and they say Succotland and then it becomes Scotland.

1:21:23 Speaker 5: Oh okay.

1:21:27 Speaker 4: Many things like that, Many things like that, but I have I have tons of them.

1:21:33 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know what I find very fascinating is you know the way you bring so you broke down what elo He means essentially.

1:21:44 Speaker 4: Those who come from the skies, right Hebrew.

1:21:47 Speaker 5: So in in in the Native American, the South American, the Native I mean, all the way to the Dogon tribe in Australia. I think it was austral It might be wrong on that, but these indigenous people they seem to always refer to the gods quote unquote as being not God all the time. They I don't think they use that word. But more like you said, from from the sky, from the sky they came and knowledge and they created us. So you think that that's more in line with what you guys are saying versus Catholicism.

1:22:31 Speaker 4: Or yes, ancient people like in some little villages from Africa, they're still waiting for those people that come from the skies. At the time of the this, I think it was at the time of the First World War or the second one, I can, I'm not sure about it. It was an island called Tana.

1:22:57 Speaker 5: Oh the cargo cults.

1:22:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and these people they build with palm trees, they build like an airplane, and they were there with with the lamps, petrol lamps or whatever, waiting for those that were coming. That were were the Americans that were giving them Coca cola. So for them they were the gods from the skies.

1:23:19 Speaker 5: It's a very very spot on modern day case study in uncontacted tribes. I will say that because the Ufo community uses that story so much, so much, and because it makes it really does. It's a modern case study and what it looks like when a highly advanced civilization comes in contact with a civilization that is, you know, really just primitive. Primitive is the word is the word? So what do the him, the Elohim, the modern day religions say that you know, again, I'm using this in air quotes God for anyone listening.

1:24:10 Speaker 5: God created us in his image? Did the Elohim? Do you think that the Elohim created? Do they look like us?

1:24:21 Speaker 4: There is no God.

1:24:25 Speaker 5: But I'm saying in the books the Bible, they say God created man.

1:24:31 Speaker 4: Depending what Bible. If you take the original Bible, it doesn't say God Sailohim, okay on the first day, and so and so and.

1:24:41 Speaker 5: So, regardless of of what it. Regardless, I don't care whether it's a God or Elohim. Do you okay, okay God?

1:24:51 Speaker 4: It's a med translated from the word Elohim. There is no God.

1:24:56 Speaker 5: Okay? Did they make what? Did the Eloheim look like?

1:25:01 Speaker 4: Exactly like us? Because they created us to their image. They only are They are a little bit shorter than us, as I described one mirror, thirty one mir forty. They can live between seven hundred and one thousand years. They have almond shaped eyes, and their skin is a little bit grayish white because probably probably in that I don't know much about it, but I assume there was a melting pot from all the civilizations black people that are people Algian because they had they had seven races and they created the seven races.

1:25:47 Speaker 4: Maybe it was a melting pot that they all look shorter, and they all look grayish a little bit, but it doesn't mean they gray like they show, etcetera.

1:26:00 Speaker 5: I was going to say, you know, it sounds like you're describing the archetypal extraterrestrial like a ah, like.

1:26:14 Speaker 4: This green not gray. Sorry, because I know some people they think some etceterrestat are gray or something like that.

1:26:23 Speaker 5: You know, yeah, it sounds like that's what you're saying.

1:26:28 Speaker 4: No, not exactly the same, because they have long hair. The one that met with Rail have long hair up to his shoulder and a small beard.

1:26:42 Speaker 5: One second, who sorry, I just had to fix the camera. I don't know why I just did that. That was a that was stupid thing to do.

1:27:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well yeah, the skin is a little bit green, not gray. Well okay, so, as I say, it's a melting pot of all the civilization that got together, they had children and so and so and so and so, and they'll look like that. But they created us to their image where they're exactly like us.

1:27:26 Speaker 5: Okay, but when and now I ask you this question, I don't expect you to know the answer because I don't think I don't think that maybe the Eloheim don't even know, but.

1:27:41 Speaker 4: Do you if you know, they know for sure.

1:27:44 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, okay, just because an extraterrestrial civilization created us, right just now, just just because they were able to do that.

1:28:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, who created them? This is your question? Yes, very funny question, very intelligent question as well. They were created by another etc. Civilization and the others were created by another one. This is a chain of creation of life through universe. And one day we're going to be able to go to another planet and create life as well. And those were going to create, they're going to create life. Let me explain to you something about our symbol. This is the Sarah David with the svasska. What is represent The two triangles represent represent infinity in space and time and the svasika in the mirror, which have nothing to do with the Nazis because this is the oldest symbol on Earth and the svaska is one of the oldest symbols in many Asian temples and in India work now, the svastika represent infinity on time, which means is a symbol of peace, of love, of good luck, and of

1:29:14 Speaker 4: mostly of love and represent infinity. What this means Let's say we human beings are living on a planet. This planet is on a solar system. This solar system is in a galaxy. This galaxy is in a universe, and this universe is infinite. Now, this universe is an atom of a cell that is inside someone alive, someone I mean someone or or or could be an animal, could be a person. We don't know, even the yellow him don't know. They say, we are an atom of a cell into a giant body that is looking at another sky.

1:30:09 Speaker 4: And he is inside also, and he is inside an atom of a cell that is looking at the sky. And so and so and so and so and so. That is no beginning and no end. And this is the symbol that represents no beginning and no end, which means life always existed in an infinite universe, and life always will be either our planet will send or will blow up. That's having nothing to do. So and and and life always existed in different forms.

1:30:48 Speaker 5: Agreed, agreed, agreed. And life seems to thrive in places that we we don't think it should, right, you know, near volcanoes, uh, in the deepest darkest trenches on Earth, in the water, you know, life seems to find a way it always does and something that you know, I look around, right, I look around, and I see the bee. The bee has a job to do. It pollinates, you know, the flowers and create the honey. And it's a it's you can see, it's a cyclical, it's a it's an ecosystem, right, it plays a part in its ecosystem.

1:31:36 Speaker 5: Every creature on Earth seems to have a something that they do a reason to be except us. But what if our job is to create life and keep consciousness alive and can spread consciousness throughout the cosmos, just like you're saying, you know, because it's an infinite process of you know, spreading that seed and essentially getting to a point where you are God. You know, for lack of a better term, you are God if you're creating life. And we're doing that.

1:32:16 Speaker 4: Right now, we are we are the yellow Him.

1:32:20 Speaker 5: We are okay, right right?

1:32:22 Speaker 4: What means the yellow Him? On another planet when we will create life, they will call us yellow Him as well, which means in a anshony Brew, those who come from the skies. Right, how simple, there is no God here? Now, let me let me before we reach that level of creating life elsewhere and so and so and so and so. First of all, we need to love each other, care for each other, and live and and and and share and be more in love with what's surrounding us, because it's part of us now, the same thing, the same way I explain you that we are inside someone and so and so and so and so Yah, one atom of one of ourselves is a universe by itself, an infinite universe by itself, where there are galaxies, where there are solar systems, where there are planets, and where there is life.

1:33:25 Speaker 4: Maybe the time that we breed it's one hundred years for them, right right, But we have life inside ourselves that is like infinitely small, and we are in the middle of this infinitely large and so and so and so and so with no stop, no beginning, and no end.

1:33:49 Speaker 5: What do you think about drugs? Like and listen, I would like you to be as honest as possible, because I think it's important. Drugs. I only use that term because it's the only term that there is. I like to think it's more like, you know, because these things come from the earth, like things like d m T, things like ayahuasca. You know I've done them and I've been brought. You know, I think it's it's something that helps our mind expand and we're confronted with our ego and we have to uh like when when you do these kind of drugs, these psychedelic drugs, Uh, you have to have you have to be of strong mind.

1:34:38 Speaker 5: But if you are I, I seemed it seemed like I was transported to another world and there was another being there, and.

1:34:51 Speaker 4: It opens your mind to infinity. But it doesn't mean that you should use it because as ment in the book, everything like his nicotine, cigarettes, drugs, coffee, caffeine, it's not good for your health because, as it says in Ebroom, look after your body.

1:35:16 Speaker 5: Your body is a temple essentially your body.

1:35:19 Speaker 4: It's our temple right to respect the yellow Him that they created us to their image. We should respect what we eat, what we drink, and not to take something that could damage our bodies. Very simple. If you respect yourself, you respect the yellow Him. If you are for love, carrying and charing, you respect the yellow Him because you respect their creation. It's not because you see a bird that is going to smatch him because it falls out of his nest down from the net, or you're going to cut a tree for the pleasure.

1:36:03 Speaker 5: No, this is bad.

1:36:06 Speaker 4: It's all this is part of us. Right, not live without it?

1:36:14 Speaker 5: Right, it's all connected.

1:36:15 Speaker 4: Like the bees, like you were mentioning the bees. How many is with monsanto and others are doing, you know, chemicals to cone to flowers this or that, and then the bees they go there and they die. And if they die, we're going to We're going to die because they are the ones that feeds us. And every animal, as you said, have a purpose of being, of that being created for a purpose.

1:36:45 Speaker 5: And what what so what do you what is is our purpose?

1:36:48 Speaker 4: To Our purpose is to understand we have been created with love and to spread and peace and care for each other. This is our goal. And one day when we will reach that level of consciousness of love, of happiness, of non violence, absolute non violence, this will lead us to enter the Golden age.

1:37:23 Speaker 5: Okay, And what does that look like?

1:37:25 Speaker 4: Golden age? Yes, it's an age where everybody will be able to eat, everybody will be able to have a roof, everybody will be able to have clothing, not some people that are multi billionaires and others that they don't have even a bread. Because if we are human beings and we care for each other. We should share with each other.

1:37:54 Speaker 4: All human beings need the respect and love to live like a human being. So all of like we live today, Yeah, all of your lives in castles and some lives.

1:38:09 Speaker 5: In boxes, agreed, And it's it's the homeless right Like here in Boston. You know it's a very nice city. Uh, a lot of wealthy people, you know, Harvard, m I, t All, Northeastern Boston University, all these amazing places, these Ivy League schools, lots of amazing people, smart people, very well educated people. But in the same exact city there are people who are lined up on the streets of massive intents in in using drugs and dying on the street in the same city where the most leading cancer research is happening.

1:38:59 Speaker 5: See, it just doesn't make sense to me. How can one person live so lavishly and another person live like an animal? How do we let that happen?

1:39:12 Speaker 4: Because government say to taking the money and caring for every human being that are part of themselves, no matter if they're president or Prime minister or whatever, they just use the money. The budget of the army to kill someone or to make bombs is more important than cadding for another human being, because if you take the budget for the unit from the United States only, I'm not talking about the others, the budget from the army from the United States for seven years. If you put that money away, every human being for the rest of their lives will be able to eat, to have a room, to have a roof, and to live like a human being without working, without working.

1:40:03 Speaker 4: And this is why we also touch the possibility of a paradism which maybe you have heard of it I have. Today is the day of paradism. I think it's a day of paradism today, which means we live, we need to live on a planet that cares about other human beings and for robotic that the the robots will be at the service of humanity because we have not been working. We have not been created to work. We have been created to have pleasure, to love each other, to care for each other, to make art, to make beauty.

1:40:50 Speaker 5: Beauty. Yes, yeah, I agree, and you know we we we probably have a they're ten minutes, ten to fifteen minutes. I don't want to keep you forever. I really you know all everything that you guys are saying, every all the philosophy of it, the theology of it, it's it's it's actually a very peaceful message. So why do you I'm battling here because you know, what you're saying makes sense, right, what you're saying, how you want people to live. It's all very pure and it makes sense. It's built from love.

1:41:36 Speaker 5: But oftentimes I think people they're if something seems too perfect, it probably is right. So so you think that that realism really disrupts the status quo that much where they're willing to buried you financial well, whether bury you in in uh in terms like UH labeling you a cult, labeling you guys sex maniacs who just want to you know, have multiple wives, even though that is allowed in other religions too, which blows my mind the hypocrisy to be because I I am from Boston where the Catholic Church was was found guilty of touching boys in the very so how can how.

1:42:37 Speaker 4: Can we not only in Boston worldwide, oh, worldwide, but of thousands of pedophile priests. And this is why, this is why Rayel created No Pedal Organization denouncing that, and they are accusing us of having sex abuse with children. It should be a shame of themselves. Yeah, they just try to throw garbage at us, to discriminate us and to defamate us. That's all because what we bring is the fundamental truth, is the only truth about the creation of life on planet Earth, which disturbs all the religions, all the governments, all the establishment because it's only based on money, and we don't care about the money.

1:43:30 Speaker 4: Right.

1:43:32 Speaker 5: That's now, what makes you know? Because I think every religion they think, they think that they have the answer. Right,

1:43:45 Speaker 5: what separates Why is realism? Why is the realism the why is this the correct one? And is there aside from stories and non physical evidence, is there any physical evidence that you could point to that would enhance your claims and help people to see, Okay, maybe they're onto something.

1:44:21 Speaker 4: We are here to rise the level of consciences of people. We are here to bring a message of love, of truth, of happiness and the way of life which is according to the message they or him gift to real as simple as that, and we try to raise the level of consciences of people as simple as that. They read the book, fine with them, Good, it makes sense to them. Fine, it doesn't make sense to them. They throw it in the trash. As simple as that. They didn't caust them, Penny, but after they read it, if they have an open mind, just ask yourself a single, a simple question, what if this is the truth.

1:45:10 Speaker 4: Because we don't want people to believe. We're not here to convince, We're here to bring your message. You rise your level of consciousness, you make up your mind, you decide if it's the truth, according to your knowledge, according to you, to your to your consciousness, according to your to your intelligence. We don't ask people to believe. We want people to understand. Period.

1:45:40 Speaker 5: That's honestly, it's pretty respectable. I again, I will say, you know, from from the belief system to the ideas everything. Like I said, you know, even when I was watching that documentary and that that was kind of the first time I'd ever been introduced to the idea. You know, I'm only thirty, so you know, I wasn't really around when this was really really kicking up and and making headlines. Actually, ironically, I was born in nineteen ninety three, and you were in Israel in nineteen ninety three, weren't.

1:46:13 Speaker 4: You exactly exactly so Messaiah on the Rolling Wall in nineteen ninety three. In April nineteen ninety three, twenty years after what mays receive the message of the Yello?

1:46:27 Speaker 5: What what makes what makes ral special? Because because and I asked this in a way, because I've met many people that when they walk into a room, you know that the room atmosphere changes. It's it's pretty actually remarkable that when someone with a certain energy or a certain vibe enters the room, if they're if they're a good person, the room changes for the better. But if it's a bad person, they seems to get sucked out of the room. And it's tangible, like we all know this, We've all been a part of something like that.

1:47:08 Speaker 5: But what so, what makes Ryle Rayel? How do am I saying that? Right?

1:47:14 Speaker 4: Rayel?

1:47:15 Speaker 5: Y Rayel? What makes him special? What makes him different? And equipped to spread this message worldwide?

1:47:28 Speaker 4: If you ask me to describe Rayel, I will say he's walking love Wow, walking love.

1:47:43 Speaker 5: Interesting.

1:47:43 Speaker 4: He only spread love and peace worldwide since the last fifty two years, traveling worldwide to spread love, peace, nonviolence, caring and sharing and making us aware that we are all equal. Nobody is superior to no one. We are all equal. Created by the yellow him into their image and likeness as simple as that simple.

1:48:22 Speaker 5: Okay, now when you when now, I don't know how your your your sermons work. You guys don't you don't have like a Bible.

1:48:36 Speaker 4: Right, No, we don't. Our Bible is a message from Yellow Him. That's a bible. Right. We meditate. We meditate every day, even a couple of days, couple a couple of times a day if we if we have time to meditate it just not to see it in in a Buddha way or cross your fingers or put your fingers, nothing like that. We can meditate by thinking about looking at a bird. Yeah, it's the creation of the Yellow Him. Look at looking at the tree, at the plant, at a flower. Everything was created by the Yellow Him.

1:49:16 Speaker 4: That's a meditation. When you see a bird or you listen to a bird singing, that's part of the creation of the Yellow Him. We are when when when some Reellians ask how the Yellow Him look like? He told us look at yourself in the mirror. It's just very simple, very simple.

1:49:39 Speaker 5: Very simple. Okay. Okay, Now, I mean because again I think I want to say this again with with the utmost respect again, because I think people are very quick to judge I think they're they're very They act done emotion rather than logic most of the time. You know, there's a famous saying hindsight is twenty twenty right, because when you're looking back on your actions, it's easy to say, oh, I shouldn't have done that. I probably shouldn't have done that, Maybe I shouldn't do you think that the religious constructs that have been built by the top religions in the world, that there's an idea of an afterlife, a heaven.

1:50:32 Speaker 5: For me, this seems like it's almost like a jail, like a It traps your mind into it really does, because then you live your life based on these this criteria so that you make it into heaven. But they never so they're always they're always living right now for the future because it will, but they never stop to think about them. Now about beauty, the beauty, the paradise that this earth actually is, like you said, the birds singing, the the way the wind will blow the grass in this beautiful like when you can take a stop and stop and really really look at the world around us, mountains, valleys, rivers, oceans, tornadoes.

1:51:28 Speaker 5: I know they rip through places, but it's it's it's beautiful in its own way. It's it's I don't know, there's something about this planet that I think people are missing because they're too focused on op I can't have sex till iet married because I want to get into heaven. So it's these crazy ideas. It's crazy they change there how they live now.

1:51:57 Speaker 4: That's that's the the Catholic Church. Yes, you should leave, you should suffer now on earth to reach a paradise. We have not been created to suffer. We should enjoy now. Because it doesn't mean everybody dies goes to paradise. That's that's absolutely false. Only some people who have done good for humanity will reach paradise. All the others they will simply die like they're born, simple as that. There is no hell, no heaven for them. That's it. You need to deserve that, and to deserve it is to care and share and be peaceful and be full of love.

1:52:48 Speaker 5: And you know as a beautiful message. It really, it really is. It's a beautiful message.

1:52:54 Speaker 4: You can see it by yourself. So those who are to blame, those who are trying just to discriminate us and to just throw garbage at us, that the truth will not be revealed because this is the only truth about the creation of life on Earth. There is no God, there is no salt, just another civilization, more advanced one that created us like they have been created, like we will create and so and so and so and so and so. It's a creation of life through universe without beginning and without any end.

1:53:35 Speaker 5: Geezus you that's kind of do you think that that's kind of scary?

1:53:40 Speaker 2: Why?

1:53:41 Speaker 4: I live very well with it. They I think this is to live, this is to leave the instant and now now I yeah, right right, so now the time that we're saying now, it's already part of the past because it's on they're.

1:54:00 Speaker 5: Now life is only it's it's a compilation of now's on top of each other.

1:54:06 Speaker 4: You know.

1:54:07 Speaker 5: It's just there's right right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, and they're just all compiling and they make you know, days, years, months, all that. But so what when we die, there's just nothing.

1:54:25 Speaker 4: Nothing except for some people who are recreated on because the yellow him have two planets. One they're all where all yellow him live, and there is another one that they have that they that we call Paradise, which in Hebrew is gan Eden. Which in Hebrew Gun means garden and Eden means dna. The garden of Dna.

1:54:54 Speaker 5: Oh my god. Yeah.

1:54:56 Speaker 4: And in this garden of Dna they him have the genetic code of every human being that is that have been created, either on planet Earth or on other planets.

1:55:12 Speaker 5: It's a it's a it's a it's a codex. Probably you know what I mean. It's it's that's.

1:55:20 Speaker 2: What it is.

1:55:20 Speaker 4: A co Then you know, at the time you die, there is a computer that evaluates if you have been doing good for humanity or bad for humanity. If you have been doing for humanity, good for humanity, then you have a chance. Because they have your genetic cod they can recreate you to live among them a channely, but not everybody. After that they go to the sky and they're close to God sitting in a cloud. That's all fantasies, that's all. But you know how religious people or religions are going to tell that to the people of their cult which I called call because they are called they are called indoctrinating people and brainwashing them with lies that they can't obey, obey and obey.

1:56:22 Speaker 5: Like fair enough, so you do not believe that you're in a cult.

1:56:30 Speaker 4: No, I believe we are not in a court. What means in a cult? Can we've talked it's a cult, I will explained you. It's the number of people on religious or a philosophy that their number have not reached billions already, as simple as that the time the moment you have, you will be reaching one hundred thousand, two hundred thousand, two million people ten million, two billion. That's it. There is no more call. That's a religion, right, and the religion doesn't mean to pray is to be related to someone, is to be connected, which come from the word religari from Latin, which means to be connected to someone.

1:57:19 Speaker 5: Hmmm.

1:57:21 Speaker 4: Doesn't mean to take a book and pray like an idiot,

1:57:25 Speaker 4: because it's most of the people that are praying they don't know what they're saying, they don't know what they read because they have they have been brainwashed. In their mind. It's so narrow that they don't see the light, they don't see the truth.

1:57:38 Speaker 5: Right, and they think that. So it's funny to me because in our government, in the United States government and the military, there are very very religious people I know, and.

1:57:55 Speaker 7: They even even in your dollar bill in God. With rest right, there is no God. What are you're going to trest money? This is their god money, that it is.

1:58:06 Speaker 5: I agree, I absolutely, fundamentally agree that that this nation was built, whether they want to admit it or not, it was built on a faith in God.

1:58:20 Speaker 4: Right of course, and all the religions and people, yes believe those in power. That's all.

1:58:29 Speaker 5: Right, right to live. And we have gotten so far away from any because I think, and.

1:58:39 Speaker 4: We are disconnected from reality. There it is right to world. We are disconnecting from reality because some people they will they will block the truth that no one will know, and they will continue blindly to believe, blindly to believe, or to believe blindly without understanding. They don't want people to understand. They don't want intelligent people.

1:59:09 Speaker 5: I don't want to ask questions.

1:59:11 Speaker 4: System is made to have slaves before they were slaves with chans today. The chance is the credit cards, the credit that you need to work hard to live, to pay bills. That's all they need you to keep on that track that you will make leave their system and themselves.

1:59:42 Speaker 5: Tay your taxes and.

1:59:44 Speaker 4: Show all that when they tell you, when they tell you, oh, the planet Earth, the death of the planet Earth is so many billions, so one hundreds something billions to who we need to to the Moon, to the Sun, to the to jupy, to whom they created the money to make us slaves out of it. I agree as simple as that this is why money should be abolished, religions should be abolished, and then we will leave a brotherhood with each other.

2:00:19 Speaker 5: Well if you okay, so.

2:00:22 Speaker 4: And that the Raelian philosophy and the Rallian religion that we are connected to each other. That's the goal of the Aelian religion. To make people understand, to raise people level of consciences, to make people think, and to make people understand, not to believe.

2:00:42 Speaker 5: But to understand. Now, these craft, these metallic they they disc shaped, you know, flying the classic flying saucer. These have been depicted by ancient civilizations. And just like you said, the sky people they always had, you know, a little bit bigger of a head, bigger eyes, a little bit of a skinnier body. Right, These are this idea of these craft and these beings, the sky beings, the people from the sky have been around since humans could write on walls and carve things under rock. It was very important for them to document what they were seeing or what they were experiencing.

2:01:41 Speaker 4: Of course you have you have pictures of this craft, even in churches, even in pictures with Jesus and Mary. You have so many of them designing this craft. Even in michel Angelo and others pictures, you see the craft there angels. What were the angels? Why they put wings on them because they could fly? But they were messengers. Angelos in Latin means messenger, doesn't mean someone with with wings.

2:02:15 Speaker 5: It just means no.

2:02:17 Speaker 4: How can how can a primitive describe someone that flies like a bird?

2:02:25 Speaker 2: A bird?

2:02:26 Speaker 5: He needs wings, the same thing with like a dry.

2:02:30 Speaker 4: The prophet Mohammed when they flew from Mecca to Medina and from Medina to Jerusalem at the speed of light, and then he flew to the sky with a horse called elbow rag a horse with wings. They only had horses and camels. So what was their only way to describe someone that was in a craft going to the skies flying to the skies. So they took a horse they put fly in it, so he was in a horse with flight. But that's a primitive description because these people even knew what a bicycle was. How can they describe a helicopter or a spaceship.

2:03:13 Speaker 5: There is no vernacular.

2:03:15 Speaker 4: You know what. What I something that is a little bit disturbing is that most of the people are pro UFOs. They're just interested in the craft. They're not hard to know to know what's inside. Who are these people inside the craft? This is why what is so sometimes disturbing, because a craft, it's like if you have a Cadillac or several head or it's it's it's it's it's transportation method, that's all. But what's important is to know who are these people, why they come and visit.

2:03:55 Speaker 5: Why do they why are they here, Why they.

2:03:57 Speaker 4: Want us to to to not to kill each other? Who are they? Why they they they created us, but why they created us? At the beginning we were an experience for them to create life. Then they realize we are not an experience where a chain of creation of life through.

2:04:19 Speaker 5: Universe an extension, yes, an extension. So okay, with that being said.

2:04:25 Speaker 2: Then.

2:04:28 Speaker 4: You know.

2:04:30 Speaker 5: A lot of people or you know, I mentioned two people earlier, Luis Alessandro, David Grush, others other UFO whistleblowers have there's almost like this narrative that the beings inside of UFOs are a threat to us. You do not believe that this is true? Of course, of.

2:04:55 Speaker 4: Course not, of course not listen. If they are, if they can travel through space, first of all, they're more advance than us through the universe. They're more advancing us. If they wanted to invite us or blow us up, they could have done it years ago. They don't want that. They want us. They don't want even to invade, They don't want even to come. They don't want even to interfere. They want us to understand who they are too, respect them as our creators, our fathers from space, and welcome them in a house, in an embassy, in that third temple the Jewish people want to build for.

2:05:46 Speaker 5: I agree, that's all.

2:05:48 Speaker 4: That's all they want to be not They don't want to be aggressed. They want people to respect them, to welcome them, to honor them because they created us. Can I tell you it's like your father, that that your father and your mother that made you, and all of a sudden, well, they want they want I don't want to welcome them into my house because they're going to invite me.

2:06:19 Speaker 5: Right.

2:06:20 Speaker 4: Take you that example as simple as it's not complicated.

2:06:24 Speaker 5: Can I tell you a story, sure, if it's not too long. No, it's not. I know we have to wrap up in a few minutes, but I'd like to continue talking. I do find it interesting all of this. And there's a There was a guy and this happened in I believe the seventies or eighties, a man by the name of Travis Walton, and he got too close to one of these craft. They described it like a classic flying saucer. He got too close, he was hit with some sort of energy force, and he was taken aboard the craft. So everyone, of course, you know, he was gone for five days.

2:07:15 Speaker 5: He woke up in the craft and he described beings that looked just like us, but a little bit smaller, but also beings like you described that had a grayish green tint to their skin, almond shaped eyes, and you know, approximately three feet tall. He thinks that he was accidentally exposed to something that he shouldn't have been, and they didn't abduct him like we think, but they brought him on board to fix what happened to him and then return him without harm. This story is widely considered one of the most credible alien abduction stories, and the person that was abducted stays that they were not there to take him in a hostile manner, that they he accidentally got too close to the craft, touched it when he wasn't supposed to, and there was like a side effect of him touching it or or being exposed to it.

2:08:17 Speaker 5: And they brought him on and fixed, you know, whatever they did to him, and then returned him safely five days later. And it's it's very well known, very well known. It's a very interesting story, and it kind of aligns with what you say. Yeah, I would if I was you, I'd look into that story. Last last thing I want to ask, have you ever heard of the Zachariah such sitchen? Of course, what is the difference between the onnaki and what you're saying.

2:08:54 Speaker 4: Well, I think I believe you know, at the beginning of the creation, they were scientists who created man to their image and so and so and so and so with genetic manipulations of DNA, and then it was forbidden for them to reveal them the truth that they have been created by another civilization because we don't know, they didn't know how they will behave. So those finally, those who start loving these creators that you know, the children they made or the man that they made, they were loving them and they wanted to reveal them the truth.

2:09:36 Speaker 4: And probably these were the ones that had mentioned in the book, the Yellow him that were exiled on planet Earth. And these are probably the Anunaki, probably, but that it's not in the book. That's my personal opinion, okay, But.

2:09:55 Speaker 5: There is some correlation there, there's something there.

2:09:58 Speaker 4: Of course yours they are no nakes.

2:10:03 Speaker 5: And again when you break that word.

2:10:05 Speaker 4: Apart naki, it's Elohim.

2:10:08 Speaker 5: Right, it's being messenger from the sky exactly. So are we are we saying the same thing, but just in different ways.

2:10:17 Speaker 4: In different ways, or in different civilization, or in different ways to explain, but you know, we're all going to reach the same point, all going to reach the same point. And this revelation of the messages giving to real by Daelo Him will will be evident, will be evident. One day nobody will be able to say, well, I still believe in God, because they're gonna see it by themselves. Now. Some people need to see to believe, and others have the are clever enough to understand it way before.

2:11:01 Speaker 5: Right right, I saw I hate.

2:11:06 Speaker 4: I think I need to to charge my battery because it's getting low.

2:11:11 Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, so listen, Rabbi. I know this was a lot of questions thrown at you very quickly. I do want to say I really appreciate you doing this, and I would love to I would love to continue this discussion. And and like you said, I would really like to talk to to Rayale himself.

2:11:32 Speaker 4: And you're most welcome to join us in Okinawa for the fifty eighth of the anniversary of the Second Encounter, which will be from August fourth to August twelve.

2:11:45 Speaker 5: Okay, And and I will include all the links in the description below for the book the book that you said, Is there anything else that you want to tell people before you guys?

2:11:59 Speaker 4: As I said, read the book, make up your mind, and after reading it, just ask yourself one single question, what if this is the truth? What if this is true? That's all?

2:12:13 Speaker 5: Wow? Very powerful, very powerful. Thank you so much, Leon for different my.

2:12:18 Speaker 4: Pleasure, mister Taylor, and time. If you want another interview, or if you want to even confront me with any rabbi or any Jewish scholar, I will be very you would debate please, of course, Okay, And you're.

2:12:34 Speaker 5: You're you're in Montreal. I I could get there real quick, and I could get there real quick or bring you here. I don't know what the laws on that are, but thank you for thank you for being open to doing this and into taking on questions that you know again, I think I think, uh that Netflix, they have their own agendas, so ah, whatever that may be, I think, uh, they're there. There's something more to the story. It's not just black.

2:13:07 Speaker 4: But of course they want to paint it in black, that they will will see it black and will not see the light.

2:13:13 Speaker 5: That's I agree. So I think that you know again, and I think this is why the mainstream media and mainstream religions, they are less and less and less popular the further we go on and there there's clearly there's clearly a reason for that. People are waking up to the idea that consciousness is really the key to the universe's rising.

2:13:40 Speaker 4: Consciousness is rising worldwide.

2:13:42 Speaker 5: Right, So again, God will be over. The mystery of God will be over, is what you say.

2:13:50 Speaker 4: Thank you, mister Taylor. I have a wonderful weekend, and any time you want, just keep in touch and of course to be on your podcast of course.

2:13:59 Speaker 5: All right, guys, thank you so much for being here. Everyone else, it was truly fun. You know, whether you take away from this something positive or negative, just ask yourself, like he said, what if this is true? One thing is certain. The alien movement forces us to confront the limits of our accepted history, our faiths, and our fears. It is a religion for the next phase of humanity or a sophisticated myth built on cosmic aspirations. That's for you to decide. I want to thank leon Ariel Malil for stepping into the storm, for answering tough questions, and for offering is unfiltered truth.

2:14:40 Speaker 5: Make sure to like, share, subscribe. All the links are in the description below, and we will see you on the other side.

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