“Ready Your People” -Pastors BRIEFED on Coming UFO Disclosure? | BEYOND REDACTED [Pt. 2]

0:08 Speaker 1: This is like, okay, again, let's operate on the idea or on the Let's just play the hypothetical out. Let's say that these dudes are one hundred percent telling the truth. What is about to occur? That seems like things that we've been warned about, Like doesn't this seem like too familiar? Like Project Bluebeam kind of familiar.

0:32 Speaker 2: It just seems like they're trying to like do anything to retain their their religion, Like if the truth is the truth, how could you denounce it? If they have actual evidence that that that you know, religion isn't a thing, et cetera, et cetera, And they're trying to like soften them up to it, and they're still refusing to believe. You know, it's going to be like.

0:54 Speaker 3: The only way they can integrate this in with their and within their faith, the only way they can do it is through this story, which is what this conspiracy is the only way and this is what ontological shock looks like from right.

1:08 Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was going to say, because Okay, now forgive me, and I've said this, I've had to say this a lot lately, but you know, out to the UFO community, forgive me for asking this this question here, But when the pastors are talking about they are coming going to come out, who are they talking about? Are they talking about the Trump administration and Burleson? Because if they're saying that Burleson is telling them this, briefing them nomness, that means the deep state is going to be the ones to disclose, and they're going to disclose the They're going to disclose before Trump and the White House some fake bullshit narrative to beat them to the punch.

2:06 Speaker 1: That's what I'm hearing. They can't be both. They can't be talking about the Trump administration being the one who's going to be putting out this bullshit that is demonic. So is anyone else seeing where I'm going with this, like or asking the question, because who's about to disclose? What is my next? Is my question?

2:28 Speaker 3: Like?

2:28 Speaker 1: Who's who's the day in this situation?

2:33 Speaker 2: Uh, they're saying the one world government that they're trying to build and the one world religion or whatever, that's what they're trying to say that is coming, That's what they're gearing.

2:42 Speaker 1: These pastors are saying that Trump and all that, you know, all this talk about like UFHO disclosure coming out. That means what these guys are saying is the Trump administration knows that the deep State is now going to disclose first, and they're going to try to disclose something that discredits Christianity. And so are we going to have a battle of disclosures, because that's going to get very confusing.

3:09 Speaker 2: I think he's lumping Trump in with the deep State and with the One World government. I think he's including Trump. No, I agree with you, because the whole world against the guys.

3:18 Speaker 1: If Berlson is the one telling them this, he would not be saying that about Trump.

3:22 Speaker 3: He loves Trump, isn't saying any of this stuff. None of this is coming from Bolson. This is coming from six very conspiratorial, pretty wacky preachers who believe in aliens and Christianity. I guess I can't call him too wacky because I believe in in a bit of both actually, But but they are. They've gone pretty hardcore on that, on the sort of demonic element, and they've written books about it, and it's it's pretty out there if you read I've read some of the material in those books, and you know, Fallen Angels, and it's just you know, it's like end of the world like on agedon kind of thing, and so that's what they believe.

4:04 Speaker 3: Suddenly, oh the you know, the government's going to start disclosing about the existence of non human intelligence. It's kind of confirming what we've been saying. I mean, it's not the same, but we're going to make it sound like it's the same. So they've been that's why you know, bullism wouldn't say I didn't say any of that stuff. That's what they might believe. I've just said, yes, there is some information coming about out about UAP, and it's looking like, you know, there is evidence in the existence of n HI.

4:32 Speaker 3: This is them basically selling their books and demonstrating, you know, how they're integrating it into their into their you know, Christianity, Christianity or the version of it.

4:44 Speaker 1: That's a good way.

4:45 Speaker 3: That's how I see it.

4:46 Speaker 1: That that's a that's a fair way to put it. So, but I mean, did we not kind of see this coming, Like do we not kind of see this coming when like a few years back, I think it was the Pope said like we would baptize a non an alien like if it if it came down because it's also a child of God, and YadA, YadA, YadA. What if

5:14 Speaker 1: what if the truth is that they these things are whatever they are, if that they did ever hand in our creation, and that like creation myth, the fabric of it. Amongst several civilizations, almost all civilizations are that someone descended from the heavens, played around with genetics, altered you know, humanity to do a certain job, taught us civilization. You know, agriculture,

5:49 Speaker 1: you know, every all of it, alchemy, all of it. And so if there is some truth to that, I think ontological shit isn't even a word that could describe what we might be up against in reality. Because have you ever seen when someone's real, when someone's existence, someone's the very fabric of the why they wake up in the morning, when that is, when that is broken in somebody, have you ever seen what happens to them? They just let themselves go, They become a shell. Yeah, So there is a fine line in what we have the job that is at hand.

6:33 Speaker 1: So you have to include religion and religious leaders to some degree. So it's like not like crazy for me to think that they'd want to get on board, they'd want the Vatican on board. How do we merge these two ideas? Well, It's always kind of struck me as easy because by definition, aren't angels and demons non human intelligence? Isn't God by definition a non human intelligence? Right again, it's it's it's it's for me, it's all semantics. It's the words, the lens you're looking through, right, the God said let there be light, or out of nothing came everything, the big bang.

7:18 Speaker 1: You're saying the same fucking thing. You're just phrasing it differently.

7:24 Speaker 3: Well, I think, yeah, I could see that, but there's there's also a difference between a god and a creator and an extratrensure extraterrestrial being, right, non human intelligence? Oh yeah, not saying it's it their et, but it probably is most likely could be as live as one of them. Yeah right, it could be one of right, But but that doesn't mean that any of these are creators, and and religion is something different. We need to feel like, okay, that we were created by someone who that and we need to serve them or you know.

7:56 Speaker 3: But this is not necessarily what it's about. It's but for some people it is like, how do I deal with this new reality and disclosure? Heaven? And hell, good and evil angels, demons, going back to those kind of you know, old archetypes. I think some people need that. I think if you brought this to most churches, it wouldn't be as such a big deal. I mean to some maybe more evangelical, there would be certainly an adjustment. I think we just saw a really small sample here of what I've heard is more Pentecostal gone to a Pentecostal service.

8:33 Speaker 1: Scientology. Scientology would like they would, they would come out of their castle. Finally, I think they'd be like, see, guys, we told you.

8:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

8:44 Speaker 1: We're gonna we're meeting at the target. I told you, well.

8:48 Speaker 2: I mean, look at look at the pope's rope. He's got an alien on his robe. That's he's got an alien on his rope.

8:53 Speaker 4: The pope.

8:54 Speaker 2: I have seen that.

8:55 Speaker 1: What yeah, what are you talking about? You said that twice? Now, Oh, I've never seen this alien on the pope's robe? Is it like stitched in?

9:05 Speaker 2: Hold on, I'll hold up.

9:08 Speaker 1: So while he's doing that, Dan, what happened to you? And like, I guess this is the first time we've ever actually interacted. Not the pivot too hard, but you want to, I want to. If you would, you want to share a little bit about your experience.

9:24 Speaker 3: I'm happy to. I was just conscious of the sound issue. I can hear you.

9:28 Speaker 1: Guys actually gone right now. Whatever you're doing right now.

9:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't changed anything. It's just yeah, the system. But so yeah, this was Vermont in twenty fifteen. I was staying at a hotel and was out having a cigarette. I was a smoker back then. I quit two years ago, although I know I smoke vapes nicotine normally, but I was out having a cigarette. As a smoker, you spend a lot of time outside and there's a lot more settings from the will spent time outside, and so I was out there every night. And one night at this hotel, I looked up and I saw a star and it was brighter than what I usually see with looking at a star.

10:12 Speaker 3: And it was kind of early too. It was about eight thirty, almost summer, sort of, you know, end of mid May. And looked at the star and it started coming getting bigger, and I just thought it must be a plane, helicopter, something else, you know, But then it started getting bigger and bigger, and I realized it was getting closer, and as it got bigger, it became more defined. So it basically a copper orange color surrounding sort of an oval yellow orb is what it really how I define it now. I didn't really even have that language back then.

10:55 Speaker 3: And it came first. It came about five hundred yards away, and I'm a golfer, so I sort of talk about the distance as a golfer ward. So Part five distance is about five hundred yards was how far away it was, And then came as close as one hundred and fifty yards or a Part three distance, and came in for three to five seconds, and then went back out to the five hundred yard and then back into the one hundred and fifty yard and I'm basically fixated, but in fear. I am in shock, I think at the time. And then it goes back out to the par five and then shoots off right between the mountains towards Burlington, Vermont, which was sort of north This would be northwest, and I got so after that happened, I raced up to my room to get my iPhone camera.

11:53 Speaker 3: This would have been an iPhone five six. I'm not even sure at that time I was able to get off four shots, but it had gone further away. It was probably in between above the mountain, just kind of left up above the mountain. I got off four shots and that was it. At the time, I called my girlfriend at the time with my wife now, I told her about it, and she was shocked. I mean she believed me. And I fell asleep and I had this extremely strange, like fourteen thirteen fourteen hours sleep. I'm someone that sleeps seven to eight hours, you know, pretty normal, but I had this really deep sleep and then I woke up kind of like this jetlag feeling and if you ever travel to Australia or somewhere far away, and that really heavy grogginess of jet lag.

12:48 Speaker 3: And I wake up and opened my eyes and I can't see. So I lost vision for at least ninety minutes. It's really hard to kind of assessed the time because I was panicking. I was high anxiety. I had to check out of the room at eleven o'clock and I remember, like, what the f am I going to do? I can't see, So I'm basically walking around my room, you know, trying to find my phone, trying to just like what's going on. Looked in the mirror, can't see like pitch black. Ninety minutes about site came back, not just like turning on a light, but gradually, I would say, over about two minutes, my vision came back.

13:35 Speaker 3: I looked in the mirror and I was just sweating. It was really I mean, I was really afraid, because I mean I was like, Okay, what is this? Is this a tumor? Is this a seizure? What could this have been?

13:47 Speaker 2: Right?

13:49 Speaker 3: So I go to the doctor. It's a local It was my local family doctor associated with Dartmouth College, where I was working at the time and part time working there and part time working on someone else somewhere else. I work in psychology. I was a researcher and a teacher and saw the doctor and I didn't tell him about kind of what I'd seen the night before. I was already obviously making the connection, like what happened there could be related to this. Now if that something like that happened now, of course it's related.

14:22 Speaker 3: But back then, I wasn't thinking about UFOs and biological effects. I've never heard of any of that, but I know that what ell I mean, it was a blinding light that was very close to me. So I saw the doctor and I told him my symptoms and he said, well, you know, have you been in the sun recently. There's this thing called sun blindness where you can you know, have you been skiing? And it was just May, there was no snow. I had not been in the sun. And he basically said, well, you know, maybe it was you know, maybe he had god what he say it was like a virus or he threw out a co of things that he should be you said, but don't worry.

15:01 Speaker 3: I think he basically thought that, like it was like a sort of a dream, you know, like you didn't really wake up, you know, but I know it wasn't a dream, just like when you wake up and you know you're awake. It's not like you know, I've never had.

15:19 Speaker 1: For me, there's always like, yeah, there's always a very clear difference. I've never had a bleed over. M h. I don't know about you, Vito. Have you ever read a bleedover?

15:29 Speaker 2: What is that a bleedover from?

15:31 Speaker 5: What?

15:31 Speaker 1: Do you think? You're still in a dream?

15:34 Speaker 2: No, because I have that weird ability to just like change it, like I know I'm dreaming no matter what, no matter how deep. Yeah, it's weird.

15:43 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to lucid dream, but I also don't see what fun it would be because if you know it's a dream, you also know it's not real. So like, I just I know why people like it.

15:55 Speaker 2: It's when the dream starts going south, like if you're falling or like GM being chased by zombie or something stupid in the dream.

16:01 Speaker 1: I just that shit ever happens to me, So I don't, like, I don't need to fight it. I don't dream about zombies. I think if you do, you might need a therapist.

16:11 Speaker 2: Probably.

16:13 Speaker 1: I don't think it's healthy because first off, they're really not real. So we're getting off topics.

16:19 Speaker 2: What's real nowadays?

16:20 Speaker 1: Man, Well we're getting off topic. But so, yeah, you've never had a bleedover? That's interesting, good, but bleedover? Like, there are people who have this thing like sleep paralysis where they'll be like stuck in their bed and but this is the thing and and again, I know you have more to tell, and I apologize for for stopping here, but sleep paralysis specifically is never sat well with me in terms of clinically being able to say that that's not actually happening when every single person that it happens to sees the same thing you're telling me.

17:04 Speaker 1: Every single brain comes up with this hag. Every brain like is that not without knowing each other, they all come up with this fucking goblin that comes and jumps on your chest and like screams into your fucking face. Like I it's like having the same DMT experience. How do we all have how do we all see an entity? And why is it there? Or someone who works in mental health or whatever, the same person that can't really describe what consciousness is because nobody can. They're the one saying that you're this is a symptom of some sort of like psychosis or like, I just I feel very uneasy when human beings try to definitively say something about a topic, which is so like when it comes to dreaming and that I just don't think we have all the answers, and I think we pretend we do.

18:06 Speaker 1: But like I said, those same people can't tell you what consciousness actually is. So how do we know that, Like when someone goes into sleep proalysis, their brain isn't like entangled into some other dimension for just two seconds or whatever it is. How do we know that this is a quote unquote figment of our imagination. What if it's not, And just like DMT, you're going you're actually somewhere else for a second, I think it's just as possible as our brain cooking up a goblin. I just it doesn't That doesn't make sense to me.

18:44 Speaker 1: Sorry, rant over.

18:48 Speaker 2: I've never talked on DMT, so I don't know what people are seeing, do you know what I mean? I've never had this sleep.

18:53 Speaker 1: I did it with the son of the son of the Project blue Book astronomer, and it was the best.

19:00 Speaker 1: I don't want to say the name, but everybody knows who I'm talking about. That. That was the last time I did it was with with a Project blue Book Jay Allen's son. That was quite the experience. My friend, I did you get on a plane after that? Yeah? And it was not not a great idea of mine. But luckily it only like last like fifteen to twenty minutes. Yeah. Last year was last. Last year was pretty fun. When we went to it was the last day of contact in the desert and I had an interview with Paul hot fuck fuck anyway, I mean, everyone knows what I'm talking about.

19:40 Speaker 1: Anyway, Everyone knows that he likes DMPT. But we were in the room right before the interview and he just like looks at me, He's like, want some And it was a vape pen and I thought it was weed at first, and I was like, oh, hell yeah, grab that started sucking on it. I'm like, that doesn't wait, you fucking what was that? And then he told me he's like, oh, that's a d MT. I was like, dude, I have to interview you. So if anyone wants a little sneaking tip, if you go back and listen to the I didn't put out on video because I won't won't go back and listen to that.

20:21 Speaker 1: Uh, listen to that interview one more time with that information, just going to see different Now. Yeah, I haven't got out so much, dude. It was embarrassing. Interview ended up fifteen minutes, but we had a great time. Uh yeah, a little scoop there for you. But uh yeah, I love he's so. He's so fucking cool. But I did that laser thing where you see the fucking program. Do you guys know about this?

20:55 Speaker 2: I've heard about it, I've never I've never experienced it, so I don't know, but I know what you're talking about.

20:59 Speaker 1: I just yeah, so I didn't see anything because it just it wore off too quickly. But yeah, I wish I think there's something to it, Like I think that we could be in some sort of simulation. But I digress anyway, back to back to Dan. So there you went to the doctor and they told.

21:20 Speaker 3: You, yeah, basically, not much. And I went back to the hotel, got in the car. I was moving down to South Carolina the time, and I was thinking about it the whole way, and you know, and I have been basically since it happened indifferently now like back then, it was definitely more trying to figure out what it is from a very deeply skeptical standpoint. You know, I was working in a very conservative scientific community that didn't think really outside of anything that could be proved with quantitative data.

22:03 Speaker 3: And you know, we have a visualization observation across you know, huge sample sizes. So here I am one guy in a parking lot of a motel and this experience happens to me. It didn't take me anywhere. People always ask that, you know, are you sure you weren't abducted? I mean, I guess it's possible, but I have no memory of that. I'm not going to go to hypnotherapist and do that because I think that that can bring out things that maybe didn't happen, or that were dreams. That's a whole other podcast probably, But anyway, I get down to South Carolina and I kind of just keep this really to myself and my wife.

22:43 Speaker 3: She knows about it, but I didn't share it with anyone else. You know, this is pre twenty seventeen, so no one was talking about it. And even though we say twenty seventeen, most people didn't catch up to the New York Times article till eighteen nineteen, so that's when I saw most people get to get introduced to the topic. So that is when I saw this sort of community on Twitter. I was on Twitter, I had ten followers and followed ten people as just a mental health therapist, and I found this community that felt safe to talk about this.

23:17 Speaker 3: But it really I still didn't share much of details in my experience. It was all just being increasingly more open to it. And then I went out to see Brandon Fugel in Utah in Salt Lake and stayed with him for a few days and had an incredible experience, got to know him. He shared a lot of amazing stories, and he kind of made me feel like it was safe, safe to share my story as a business person, a mental health clinician, I have a number of things in my life going on.

23:49 Speaker 6: You know.

23:49 Speaker 3: If he publicly shared it and it hasn't sort of tarnished his image or ability to do business, then I thought, Okay, maybe it's safe to do it, you know. And then basically with Brandon Fugel, what had that been? A year later, I was on the Vetted podcast and I said to Patrick, I said, I'd love to bring on Brennan. I feel more comfortable kind of sharing my story for the first time if he would be if he was here. And he said, oh, yeah, sure, bring Brennan on. That's great. He was building his channel at the time.

24:20 Speaker 3: And yeah, I shed it. You know, in twenty minutes doing that. I've only shared it like four times, so I'm not well practiced at first like some of other people are. They've made it into a really beautiful story. They've told a real they've told a real account, but they have made it into something very vivid. You know.

24:41 Speaker 1: Do you think do you think that you possibly And again, I know we're getting it into a speculative territory here, but do you think that there is a possibility that you didn't just have a close encounter, but that you add more contact than you are currently aware of if you understand what I mean. I don't want to ask the question. I don't want to push too far if you don't want to go that far. But no, I'm symptoms are or not the symptoms? How would I say this? The signs do point to there could be more.

25:25 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'll tell you a few of the things that you know I didn't share, but you know they're small details, but they might be significant. Is that my whole sort of paradigm on myself in the universe and faith meaning just changed. I was a very strong Christian and unfortunately fortunately whatever I just stopped going. I still call myself a Christian, but I don't go to Bible studies. I don't go to church on Sunday. So there was an ontological shock period for me of adjustment, which I which is why I think there will be some dystrophic disclosure or challenging period of disclosure.

26:04 Speaker 3: I So I don't know if it was a download. But I definitely started to think differently about the world. I was definitely more open, I was more attunement seeking, I was more intuitive, I think or sort out intuition in myself and other people, a lot more empathetic and just wanting to emotionally connect with myself and others.

26:29 Speaker 1: After it, it's that's, uh, You're not the only one, right, Like these these are these are things that are very common amongst people who go through what you went through. And I was lucky enough to go through it very early on in my life, which I think was a benefit to how I grew up. It was also a testament to how I grew up right in the past I took and the decisions I made, and this and that and this and that. So I think. But here's the beautiful part. I truly believe that that sighting was meant for like you, as mine was meant for me.

27:14 Speaker 1: You know, And maybe you know the phoenix lights or something like that's like a little different, right, Those I think are meant to happen as well, and they involve more people for obvious reasons. We could even point back all the way to the Fatoma right that is supposed to happen for all those people at that time, at that place, at at that moment, right, because reality, that's all reality really is. It's just now is compiling and compounding on top of each other. There really is no structured time like we think.

27:47 Speaker 1: So of course you know all this, right, But it's funny the way we see things like that. And I think all these feelings that you're you're having, they are they are they were the product of whatever these things are trying to do with us, like showing us themselves just a little bit to spark an innovation, to spark someone to go on the right path.

28:17 Speaker 6: You know.

28:17 Speaker 1: Uh, maybe our ancestors called them, you know, angels. Maybe some called them demons and blamed all their troubles on that sighting. Right, there's a demon fucking that. Ever since that night, my life has been ruined, right, Or it was an angel. It inspired me to be a better person, right. So I think it's the lens that we're looking through. I think that was meant for you, and I think you know that you've gone on the path now you have.

28:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was definitely a it was a relationship in some ways because there's something that is interacting with me. So it's not just a light in the sky, it's one that is communicating through coming closer and then moving further away and coming closer again. I mean human beings do that, you know, deliberately, sometimes not. This was very kind of deliberate and probably I felt like kind of the right place at the wrong time, or the wrong place at the right time, whatever your opinion it would be.

29:17 Speaker 3: I mean now I definitely look back and feel sort of grateful and fortunate that I had the experience. I didn't think it was deliberately to impact me. I mean, I really wasn't that impacted. I had bad skin irritation, some skin issues that I do probably think there was some radiation issues. I was talking to Jacques Relat three months ago in Italy. We spoke spent an hour talking about it, and he wants to go into it. I mean, he really wants to learn about the whole sighting and encounter and investigate it.

29:50 Speaker 3: And I'm really considering it.

29:53 Speaker 2: You know.

29:54 Speaker 3: My only concern is that just the proximity to.

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31:35 Speaker 3: The community was in the academic institution that I still work as a professional.

31:40 Speaker 1: You know, especially being a mental health professional. It must be tough, like yeah, definitely when someone starts to question yours, right, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, definitely a conflict of interest there.

31:57 Speaker 3: But so yeah, so it felt safe to you. Just okay, I can talk about it, and I can and I didn't talk too much about the setting, but I can talk about my interest and belief in the phenomenon that I'm not gonna lose referrals.

32:08 Speaker 1: Right, well, let me ask you something you said. It was glowing like a yellowy orange. Is this similar to how like the did you you see that? Bob? And I hate to bring up Bob as Ar again, but Bob's are described how that this you know, this like yellow light would envelope the craft. And then even in that that that Logan Paul video that James James Fox talks about that that footage, there's something like that where it's like kind of hovering its dishape. Did it look like that or was it?

32:43 Speaker 3: So it's amazing you asked that. It's almost like you know this, but you don't. I two years ago when I shared the story, a few people were asking, you know, can you find an image you know, of what it looked like? And and I searched the internet. I searched thousands of images of uIP and I on one I was like, oh my god, that's it. I mean, it was such a relief to find the exact same thing that I saw, and it was that image. No, yep, and you'll see it on posts and you could track my history in X that That's exactly what I've been saying that that was the image.

33:18 Speaker 3: It was a sort of vibrating sort of it was a pulsating energy, but very visible, like pulsating on the outside, and its electric static kind of sound like being under a power line. It was completely alive. This thing was absolutely a living thing.

33:37 Speaker 1: And when it's going from par five.

33:40 Speaker 3: Part five Jesus, part five to pop three, was it?

33:44 Speaker 1: Did you say par five to par three?

33:45 Speaker 2: Yeah?

33:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, five was five hundred one fifty.

33:51 Speaker 1: When it's moving, are you seeing any any what?

33:57 Speaker 6: What?

33:57 Speaker 3: What?

33:57 Speaker 1: We would call like in the in the industry motion blur or was it almost like it was appearing instantly skipping.

34:08 Speaker 3: I've never been notice that it came like directly at me. Uh and I couldn't. It was quite quick, so it just and it's like big. It went like smaller to big like like that. So I could really tell if there was some motion blow or skipping it just like that, like you know what, hold on, let me fix it, like this, right, you can see this.

34:33 Speaker 4: It was like that.

34:35 Speaker 3: Like that.

34:37 Speaker 2: Like that right, That's how they were describing them moving in the Lizard documentary.

34:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, essentially is that it's I mean, Jesus, it sounds it's like uncanny. It's it's so you come across that picture you're like, holy shit, that's the fucking thing I saw. Like that's exactly what I saw. It's and it's moving in and out and in and out, and then you get sleepy. What'd you think about that part? Do you think that was maybe fatigue from the radiation.

35:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, but I haven't had the feeling since of sleeping that much, being that groggy, like I could have slept for days. It was like I had just been hiking for a week NonStop. That was the feeling physically, that's all I remember.

35:27 Speaker 1: Just adrenaline too, you get such a yeah. I don't think people realize this part of it, but whether you know it or not, you're getting an adrenaline the adrenaline dump of a lifetime. I remember as a kid when I saw what I saw, my body vibrated like I was like, what the fuck am I seeing? And it's just like it's the biggest adrenaline dump. I remember running into my mother like stumbling over my words. I couldn't breathe. I was fucking heaving and I was I did run around house. But it's like when you see something like that, it's just it's you just go to a hundred and then down and then it's done and you're still at like a hundred and you're like, wait a second.

36:16 Speaker 3: It's like a the first time in my life where I've experienced these two things together, excitement and relief, like extreme excitement like you know, I'm in shock, excitement like I've seen something absolutely incredible, but then also relief like I'm not going to die. So those two emotions are very exhausting and taxing on the body and emotionally, and I feel like that that's what shattered me.

36:46 Speaker 1: Okay, so physiological effects burns on the skin really interesting because that takes it to another level even on like.

36:57 Speaker 3: Like the clarifiedn't say burns on the skin, skin irritation. It actually felt like it was a burn, but I would look in the mirror and it wasn't. So it was extremely like ants crawling on the skin was the feeling, and it felt like it was irritated, but I looked at the mirror it didn't look much different. So it was there were like silent effects, I would say, or not so visible effects.

37:21 Speaker 1: Well, that is very interesting. That's I don't know if that might be more interesting. But yeah, sucks because that means you can't take So you did catch a couple of pictures of this.

37:35 Speaker 3: Thing, mm hmm do you have them?

37:39 Speaker 2: Yeah?

37:40 Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, they are on if you go to my if you go yeah, if you just go to go to my site and you search for your site, Vermont's saying sorry my ex page, I'm sorry, yeah X page, and then if you search for yeah, it'll probably just be of Yeah, it might be in the highlights, but Vermont's siding. I think I have all the pictures of that.

38:07 Speaker 1: Okay, because I want to move move into the the David Grush thing.

38:13 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and you know I can. I can find it while you do that, and I can send them to you seat and spend time looking.

38:18 Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, yeah, let's do that. I'm gonna play that clip of of David Grush that's on your on your page. Actually there was, damn it, there was a couple of clips I wanted to play because there was this one. What do you guys make of this story?

38:38 Speaker 7: Well, in the span of twenty four hours, there have been a seventeen earthquakes near Area fifty one. It started with a four point four magnitude quake just two and a half miles underground. The area is normally not prone to earthquakes, the shallow and it's leading to theories of nuclear testing or even UFOs because it all happened after President Trump said this.

38:57 Speaker 3: Do you have an update on UFO fibles and what might see what we're going to be seeing.

39:01 Speaker 8: Well, I think we're going to be releasing as much as we can in then in future, they want to find out about the UFOs and anything having to do with UFO or related material, and we're going to be releasing a lot of things from that we have, and I think someone's going to be very interesting.

39:19 Speaker 7: Christephen Green, are UFO research or innertire position? Great to see a doctor? So are these earthquakes just a version of burning the files and an embassy when people got to get out?

39:30 Speaker 5: Well, you know, the thing that lights up in my mind is that back in the nineteen nineties I had brief the man who worked and designed the security apparatus at some of the facilities out there, particularly the ones up near Groom Lake and pot Mesa, and he explained it on the top of those complexes, underground or like bunker busting type bombs would underneath them, or thermonuclear devices, so that if anybody was getting close to those facilities, and by this that he could even be the legal government of United States, they could collapse those facilities.

40:01 Speaker 4: No, I don't know that that's what happened. I know for a fact those.

40:04 Speaker 5: Security systems are out there, so that's one consideration. Now it could just be a cluster of earthquakes, or they could be doing some legitimate underground testing out in that region.

40:15 Speaker 7: Yeah, there are a lot of mountains out there, so earthquakes are not out of the.

40:18 Speaker 1: Question as quickly. I forgot about that one kind of weird right, like, what's going on that's seventeen earthquakes?

40:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's clearly you know, it's just it's clear, it's clearly nothing. Nothing to see here, guys, Hey, look what is What does that.

40:40 Speaker 1: Show that Jesse and Ramsey are doing.

40:43 Speaker 2: It's probably there's probably nothing, probably nothing.

40:45 Speaker 1: Probably nothing right moving on? So uh here I am I got to share. Oh shit, I'm on the latest page again. I don't like this. Uh this was but doctor Greer, I like how we always has brief someone on something. He always he always has briefed someone on the topic we're talking about. But what he said it was interesting. What are you saying is that they had they have bombs on top of sensitive sites so that when people are getting too close, it triggers and blows the place up.

41:29 Speaker 5: Is that?

41:31 Speaker 1: Does anyone actually believe that that's what's happening? No, okay, I just want to gauge the room here, Dan, Do you think that that's happening?

41:40 Speaker 5: No?

41:40 Speaker 2: I didn't think so, okay, I was streaming bullshit while he was talking the whole time, literally screaming bullshit. He's so bullshit that guy.

41:51 Speaker 1: He's actually doing a press club event.

41:54 Speaker 2: I know, I know what Like if you guys were going no, absolutely no.

41:59 Speaker 1: Because like James Fox did it for free, right, like how you're supposed to do.

42:04 Speaker 2: It's going to charge you, like.

42:07 Speaker 1: No, fIF I think it's fifty bucks to get in or something like that.

42:10 Speaker 2: Are you serious?

42:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's again, you know, I get it. You have to you have to pay for the cost of the actual press club and stuff. But it's also the National Press.

42:22 Speaker 2: Club, so he's got to buy be some is shoes.

42:25 Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, I'm on Dan's page. I'm looking for that Grush interview because that there's some stuff in that that because he does talk about the timeframe and that it seems that there is some sort of internal effort from representatives and this is like going beyond just like the Burlesons, that there is like a literal working effort behind the scenes to move forward with this information. Uh, and whether it's you know, the initial thing will be these forty six videos that Luna is attempting to get.

43:05 Speaker 1: If that's how they want to it seems like we're being set up though, and they're just looking for the right way to kind of roll it out. The question seems less to be about if, more about when at this point, and I find that to be extremely extremely you know, just like positive. It's something we've been working towards. I mean, we have a chance to make history here and to really be a part of a time that will be written about in every single history book going forward, might even rewrite a few. And I think it's, you know, the next step of evolution and consciousness, is my take on this.

43:49 Speaker 3: I like that it's the closest we've ever been.

43:51 Speaker 2: Absolutely well, what a time to be alive. I'll tell you that.

43:54 Speaker 9: Man.

43:54 Speaker 2: You know, I never thought in my lifetime. I never thought in my lifetime might see it. I thought maybe one hundred years from now now, Like this is fucking crazy, That's what I mean.

44:03 Speaker 1: And and and isn't it weird though that we And I don't know if you guys feel this too. And I might even actually sound a little bit fucking crazy when I say what I'm about to say, but I I assume that we all see the world through that, like we are the main character, right, Like all you have for reference is like you're how you're perceiving the world, that your consciousness is like playing out like a movie right before your eyes, and you're you're the main character. I assume. I maybe I assume wrong.

44:43 Speaker 1: Maybe there are some NPCs out there. I don't know, maybe, but I assume that everybody human being, every human being sees what kind of the way I see, and in some in some way, shape or form, they are the main character in the story. And it's aims that every single thing that I've ever wanted to happen in my life. And I know this sounds fucking crazy, but it's like everything that every before this I was a part of. I did a lot of movies and shit, and we fought so hard to get something that was had never been done before.

45:23 Speaker 1: Right. It was called the Snyder Cut of the Justice League. It was this like grassroots effort to get because Warner Brothers fucked over Zack Snyder. They fired him. You guys probably might even know.

45:35 Speaker 2: The story, but I'm a huge I'm a huge what it is.

45:38 Speaker 9: Yet, So there's this.

45:39 Speaker 1: Big grassroots effort that I was a part of, and it then something historic happened, the pandemic, and the pandemic opened up the door for this to be greenlit because it was a way that they could release They're fucking greedy, but they they could release a new movie or some new content because they were rolling out HBO. I'm getting lost in it. That's not really important. But anyway that happened, everybody said there was, it didn't exist, and it was never gonna happen. It happened. There was something I really wanted, and it seems like everything in my life that's and I assume maybe we all feel this way, but I struggled for a long time with addiction.

46:22 Speaker 1: All I wanted to do is overcome it. All I wanted to do is be the person I am today. And I did do that, right, I did. I did it. And it seems like everything that I am interested in ends up becoming something that is like noteworthy. So I don't know if that's the way everyone feels, but it just feels like a I don't know, it's like creepy because I'm like, am I like in some sort of simulation of my own Like everything I want seems to happen, everything goes good.

46:52 Speaker 2: No, it's because you worked for it. That's why. It's just like like like with me as a firefighter, I became a rookie firefighter at thirty seven years old. Now I'm a fire captain, you know, thirteen years later. It's something I worked for, Like I I went out there and I got it. And that's what you've done. You've accomplished something. Yes, I'm sure doctor Dan's the same thing for him. I'm sure.

47:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I I guess I.

47:14 Speaker 2: But but yes, I get what you're saying. Yes, it's literally everything I've ever wanted is literally happening. But I work for it.

47:23 Speaker 3: What you're what you're just saying is that there's something like almost too lucky or too fortuitor, so that there's like some hands playing a role.

47:31 Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes I question like and I again, as a mental health guy, I fucking see what you're about to do to me, But I see what you're about to do to me.

47:45 Speaker 3: I'm not thinking that.

47:46 Speaker 1: No, no, I'm joking, but sometimes I literally do. And I brought this up to one person, maybe maybe one person before or i've I I remember talking to him because he was someone I can really confide in. But I asked him. I was like, hey, dude, do you ever feel like you're just kind of like like you died at some point and this is you just kind of living out whatever come whatever came next. It's like something changed at one point and it just seems like from that moment on. I couldn't quite put my finger on what was different, but something's different.

48:29 Speaker 1: And he said yes to me, so gave me this like reassurance. But there was a moment in my life. There was a person before it, and then there's a person after it. I can't quite put my finger on when the moment was, but something didn't feel right after, and all of a sudden, like I start I swear to God, And I think people call it like disassociation, right, like you're dissociating with reality. And I think I think I do. I walk myself into existential traps in my head. And I do think that that that's something that we don't talk about often in this community, is when you're constantly asking yourself existential questions like this, sometimes you can go a little crazy.

49:17 Speaker 1: And I think that's what happens to some people.

49:20 Speaker 6: I E.

49:20 Speaker 1: David Wilcox, I E. Corey Good Like So, I do think you have to be careful because the mental health line is real.

49:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, it's real, and I've seen it in the community. Yeah, and in some really difficult situations where people are really struggling and at a point of risk, and I have to obviously intervene as a professional, and I do. And it's not someone telling me a story that sounds wacky and I'm not judging, it's none of that. It's real mental health stuff that that will occur in any actually any community. I mean, yeah, I was a professional tennis place by a lot of tennis. You'd see, you know, different meltdowns and manic episodes.

50:02 Speaker 3: You see it everywhere. But I'd say, yeah, in our community it might be a little more so because we are more open minded, more more sensitive. We're more explorative, exploratorive psychologically and existentially, and in that search for meaning, you can start to, i don't know, go down a rabbit hole or start to question everything.

50:24 Speaker 1: That's why I do say people like not everyone should do uh not everyone should just like try mushrooms or try DMT or any of that stuff. Like if your if your grip on reality is shaky at even slightly, don't do drugs or drink.

50:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't need that my mind is fucking right. I don't need mushrooms.

50:49 Speaker 1: Buddy, don't down those avenues. It's not for everybody. Don't do it. Keep your because I've seen people go down and never come back.

51:02 Speaker 3: You're not endorsing it at all, but this is a good opportunity to tell you my mushroom story.

51:06 Speaker 2: God please, yes, please.

51:09 Speaker 3: Never publicly shared. Uh, and it's it's on the internet for life.

51:14 Speaker 1: But that's scoop.

51:15 Speaker 3: So I was staying with her at a friend's house. I cannot name that person because they are very well known. But I was hungry at night and they said, help yourself to anything in the fridge, and uh, you know, I went down to the kitchen saw some this beautiful chocolate box. I mean, it's a really nice wooden box of chocolate. So I'm thinking Switzerland. Maybe they're from I know what country, and it says made in Colorado, Boulder, Colorado's Like, I didn't think they made chocolate Boulder, but you know, maybe they do.

51:44 Speaker 3: So I have one chocolate. I was like, God, this is delicious, and you know, had another an hour later. I'm basically frozen sort of by the fridge, like holding up in the fridge yeah, totally frozen. My wife comes down and she says, you okay, and I said, yeah, you know, so basically lost two two hours of time. I got back up to the stuck.

52:07 Speaker 2: Its great, bro, that's great, bridge. I'm sorry that it's hilarious. Hold up, I'm sorry.

52:14 Speaker 1: That is absolutely this is like a Tales from the Trip episode. All of a sudden, so wait a second, exclude my man. You did my man, you walked into the fridge, saw nice chocolates open, going up eight one eight a second trouble.

52:35 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, wait, the story is coming.

52:39 Speaker 10: I was gonna say when I thought I this is just wait, guys, let me finish, Let finish this up. Then okay, So my wife comes down, go back up to the room. I fall asleep for about ten minutes. I wake up and everything is sort of glowing blue. There's like this blue, lot of blue vibration stuff going on. But then I start to see all the electrical current that, you know, all the like cell phone signal in the air, I mean's everywhere, you know, like.

53:06 Speaker 3: How are we talking? There's no wires here. There's a lot of electrical stuff in the air, a lot of data. And I saw all that data in the sky, I mean in the room I was in, right in the air, going through the air then, and it was kind of nice for like a few minutes. I was like, Wow, this is cool. I'm seeing basically what no one else can see right now. And maybe there's some harm to this, but I'm like tapped into this matrix thing. Then I start to get a little paranoid and start thinking about, well, maybe this is going to cause you know, illness, or this is the cause of cancer, and it's going to invade me and my wife here and you know, and she was pregnant at the time, and you know, and of course I don't know what I've taken.

53:47 Speaker 3: I just I just thought I had chocolate style at this point. So I have no idea what's happened at this point when I said all about you know, the blue around every object, Like I look at my wife, there was this just blue like halo around her, this sort of like it was pretty beautiful looking really until it got kind of paranoid. And then when I started paranoid and panic, I I was looking up and there was a chandelier, beautiful crystal chandelier, and the crystal turned into icicles. And they were going to calm down.

54:17 Speaker 3: I felt like they were going to come down, that they were going to fall, almost like terminated two style, you know, like turning into you know, you know, just something sharp and dangerous. And then I wanted to go in the bathroom and I wanted to jump out the window, and I wasn't going to, but it was like, I've got to get away from whatever this thing is chasing me. And didn't know that I was basically tripping. At this point. My wife calls the person who's who are in the house and she said, oh, my god, you didn't need the chocolates, did you.

54:50 Speaker 3: They're really strong. Don't have more than like a quarter And my wife says, he just ate two whole ones and she was like, holy fuck. So and you know, I had spoke pot before, but this last time I spoke pot was nineteen ninety seven, you know, was it ninety seven Neil Young concert in Ohio. That was the last time. So I'm pretty straight. Yeah, my man went on a journey that Yeah, it was a journey. And what's crazy? Talk about disassociation. The next day during the day, I would like slip into that dissociadic state where I'm like, wait, I'm in that magical not so magical kingdom again.

55:30 Speaker 3: But if I knew it was what it was, I probably need a really good like shaman or someone who could guide me through. I could see. And I'm not in endorsing or condoning. Don't do drugs. Do not do drugs. I'm a mental health professional. But if you ever do it, make sure you know what you're doing, because that unknown fuels the panic. Like there was this point where people were saying, who came out of the house, Oh, that's just weed. Before we knew it was mushrooms, that's just weed. Stop being so pathetic, you know, And then when they knew it was mushrooms, are like, okay, this explains it.

56:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, there's nothing you should never like, never dose anyone. I've seen people dose. The others like, don't do that shit. It's not cool. A lot of people do it on the internet, like to their buddies just to like get a get a viral clip. It's not cool. But a situation like that, forgive me for laughing, but there is some humor and looking back at it, Sorry, I think I just muted you by accident.

56:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just saying get it.

56:33 Speaker 1: There is a little humor in looking back on it and being like, oh, I just went in and grabbed like the one thing in that refrigerator that was going to take me to another planet. And of course you grab it and and you eat two bo you know, two whole ones, and like something about not knowing a mushroom trips about to happen. It sounds fucking terrifying just to have it, like I can't even imagine what like going from like, uh, I'm about it's the end of the night. I'm just hungry too, What the fuck is going on?

57:14 Speaker 1: Why is there blue around my wife? Why am I questioning? Fucking like toenails? And like you just start thinking about weird shit. When did so? How long was it between eating it and finding out that it was mushrooms?

57:28 Speaker 3: Eating it? Funny, it was probably like two and a half two and a half, three hours, Yeah, pretty deep in.

57:36 Speaker 2: How long between eating it did it kick in? Though?

57:39 Speaker 1: Like an hour?

57:40 Speaker 2: Yeah?

57:41 Speaker 3: Probably like an hour. It was hot to know because I was frozen holding the fridge. It was almost like you know, you imagine that like you know, someone's like electriciti, you gotta like peel their things where she had to peel the fingers away from the fridge. And I'm there like in my boxes too, which is really we're just standing there and but I but then I started to think, like.

58:02 Speaker 2: Is that real?

58:03 Speaker 3: Like is that what the the the air around us looks like? Is it all just like data traveling?

58:12 Speaker 1: I can just I'm picturing just someone just glue to the fridge with just their boxes.

58:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was a mess. The next day, I was so upset because I felt like, when this happens to you, it's such a violation, right, And of course it's my fucking fault. I mean I should I guess it is. And I mean I thought it was chocolate. You shouldn't have drugs in your house or in your fridge, And if.

58:35 Speaker 1: You do have drugs in your fridge, you should probably say, hey, by the way, there's that chocolate bar. Don't you fucking eat it unless you want to take a ride?

58:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, if anything but the DNA, Yeah that's what if a kid like went for that, because kids go for candy, they would eat the whole goddamn box.

58:53 Speaker 3: That is true. Yeah, maybe then she would.

58:55 Speaker 1: That's me, you know, I know that is actually whoever's house that was? That was very whoever did that? Sorry, should have marked it there. You know better, you know better. That's I'm so sorry that happened to you. Let's watch on a we're gonna round out here. But I want to watch this video. David Grush did interview? Who is the interview? Who's the guy that's interviewing them? I don't know this guy?

59:25 Speaker 2: I don't know, but why can't it be me? Guy? I want to talk to him so bad, even though idea.

59:29 Speaker 3: Yeah I had seen this guy before, I'm not sure it is.

59:31 Speaker 1: Get it, get in line, fio.

59:34 Speaker 2: I'm trying, God, damn it, I'm trying, all right.

59:37 Speaker 1: So, whoever this guy is? I wish I could read the fucking thing? Is it judicial watch?

59:44 Speaker 3: Judicial watch?

59:45 Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, judicial Watch? I want to source it at least, But David Grush doing the interview, just like he does every other interview. It looks exactly the same location.

59:57 Speaker 11: So I can't tell them apart like looking backwards frustration, bad stories, looking forwards, looking ahead, whether it's weeks or months,

1:00:08 Speaker 11: reviewers and listeners and honest but a real sense of what the hell is happening and where are we going give them a forward view on this.

1:00:22 Speaker 9: Yeah, certainly, I have my own personal law fare strategy that I will execute responsibly an ingradient of veracity depending on things. Cheerwoman Luna right now is asking the Department of Defense to declassify about forty six videos. Some of those videos I've seen. They're interesting, but don't certainly prove the case that I've presented. But I think Luna is very smart to exercise that process and you know, threaten subpoenaing those records and getting those in receipt of Congress. And I think as the administration starts releasing things, and I'm speaking on my personal behalf here today, but I would recommend, you know, professionally to Congress to start using the power of subpoena.

1:01:07 Speaker 9: They already have the list of some of these hostile folks that ran those programs. Unfortunately, one of those individuals, Major General retired Neil mccasl and is currently missing, which is very concerning to me as well.

1:01:23 Speaker 3: That's a whole other topic.

1:01:24 Speaker 2: We could do a show on the other topic.

1:01:26 Speaker 9: But I think the President sees that this will cement in this legacy. But it's also a bipartisan thing. I don't want to make it political where releasing this is going to help the Republicans in the mid terms. I think there's a vice partisan consensus that they want this out there, and I would encourage our elected leadership to give the American public that. I mean, I certainly do not encourage irresponsible whistle blowing because I'm trying to set the standard to follow all the rules, and you know, everything I do and say, I bide by everything.

1:01:55 Speaker 9: So I think unfortunately the balls in the US government's court, or I guess an ally or an adversarial government if they wanted to take initiative. But I think Trump understands his legacy and once a lot of this information out there, and I would encourage his administration to do the right thing. And I encourage them if they they're meeting up resistance. There's certainly a coalition things I'm happy to participate in. And there's other folks in the woodwork that just need called up the duty to help them get through this.

1:02:30 Speaker 9: So I think they need to not be shy about asking for help. You know, us men, sometimes we don't like to ask for help. But I think in this case, it's all hands on deck, and I don't want to be too prophetic or say by a certain date something's going to come out, because there's a lot of causual factors. But I do have confidence that it's going to escalate in the next sixty to ninety days, and I think there's going to be a lot of pressure. I certainly know what Congress is doing, and I won't reveal that, but I do see a lot of pressure to get the substantive empirical holdings that I've talked about, not videos or anything like that, out of the ether.

1:03:10 Speaker 9: And you know, I'm hoping that's the case.

1:03:23 Speaker 1: So very interesting remarks one of the ones, one of the remarks that I find very There's a couple of things in there, of course, but when he says that the evidence that is coming out will verify his story. In particular, I notated on that because his version of the story is that the US government is in possession of not only craft but biologics. What that means is, you know, been a little bit gray whether we have you know, live beings or full beings or just you know, biological matter and many other things.

1:04:07 Speaker 1: Though, but that there may have been some sort of treaty signed between not signed. I mean, who knows if it's that like formal but agreement between non human intelligence and humans. So there's a lot to impact in what he's saying there and the definitive nature of what he's saying the thirty ninety days. We've again been through this before, but for Grush to say that it feels a little different, doesn't it?

1:04:38 Speaker 2: Yeah? Very much. So yeah, I think we're gonna get.

1:04:41 Speaker 1: Real, okay, saying that President Trump has a speed written right right, this is rush.

1:04:49 Speaker 2: He also mentioned in the past that some of these things might not be very appealing to look at, so even wonder what these things are going to look like exactly, Like, what are they talking about? It is that different? Tillions? Because these preachers also mentioned the reptilians as well, didn't they a couple of these preachers I saw being mentioned with them?

1:05:05 Speaker 1: Well that but but that, But That's what I mean is when he said his story specifically, his story almost covers every part of UFO lore to some degree, aside from like abduction, like everything else, every other box gets checked with Grush. So I I just again, I'm finally a hard time drawing a line of like, wait, so what is about to happen? What is what is that? What is coming down the pipe? How do these videos confirm his his testimony? Dan, what do you? What do you think of all that? Are you muted?

1:05:47 Speaker 1: You are muted? God damn it?

1:05:53 Speaker 2: All right?

1:05:53 Speaker 3: I unmuted myself that so, I mean, I Grush is extremely intelligent. He's very careful with his words. I have a lot of respect for him. I know he gets a lot of crap out there. I don't I don't get why. I mean, he's incredibly courageous in coming forward, and he's someone I just listened to and I trust. I don't think he knows like how clear or significant these documents are going to be. They are going to come out, that, you know, But I don't think we're going to see much more than maybe some of the releases that Corbell's released or some of the military released.

1:06:28 Speaker 3: I think they'll probably be better than what error released because they will feel like they have to. But you've got to realize, we're still working with a government that does not want disclosure. They're just going to give us more than they ever have. They're not going to provide certainty. They'll never be enough to provide certainty because they don't want that. They don't want the impact or the risk of the impact on the stock market, on society, on religion. They're going to keep it in this faith based area, right, or just enough data to be to say maybe, but not enough to say definitely.

1:07:03 Speaker 3: Right, that's mine And I know it's not exciting, it's not what we want. I love you guys optimistic This disclosed is going to happen in our lifetime. It's you know these forty six doction is forty nine whatever it is that on aliens. I mean, I guess it could be. But we're talking about Trump, who I'm not really interested in it, you know, I don't really care. But he's doing it because the people are interested, and that's good. But the people in control and power. You think suddenly they're going to now give it up?

1:07:30 Speaker 2: Why?

1:07:31 Speaker 1: Oh hell no, I don't. I don't think they're going to give it up that easy. And that's why I do think people are going missing and are dying. I think the deep state's trying to send a message to the people in the public facing push like Burlison, like Birchet, like Luna, all these people that you know, the age of disclosure has brought us all these people that are pushing for this, that have been you know, at one point or another pulled into a room and said, why are you doing this? Stop doing this.

1:08:09 Speaker 1: You know they all have a story about it. So the next level is, Okay, now we gotta now, we gotta show them we mean business. And certain people die, certain people go missing. But there's one theme, right, but you can't quite prove it. And uh, it's more so said, I feel like it's sending a message to those that are pushing like, hey, you're like, you're getting a little fucking close. Don't make us keep doing this. So I don't. I think there's a very big fight happening. There's almost a civil war behind the scenes of the people that are either proxies for the deep state or representing them knowingly.

1:08:56 Speaker 2: You just had an assassination attempt on his life by a guy that worked in that Yeah, that's connected, it's connected.

1:09:04 Speaker 1: How did that guy make him through? That video is crazy? The bomb dog says hello to the guy.

1:09:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, the bomb dog hits on him, The guy gains the dog back, the dog hits on him again. Then the guy you see the guy look at the guy and then he turns his left and then a guy runs out of the room. There's no way it's not connected. It's an inside job. And I think the Deep States behind and they're probably trying to get Trump not to do the UFO stuff. Now, to get back to what you were saying, you have to look back at you have to look at who Trump's uncle was. John Trump was a big player in the UFO program back in the day.

1:09:36 Speaker 2: Trump's son is big into UFOs. I think Trump is more into UFOs than than what he lets on because he plays KOI with this ship, you know what I mean. I think it's like bait and switch with him. Oh yeah, whatever, so that you know, and then next thing you know, he's dropping some crazy shit. I think we're gonna see some disclosure. His son is big into UFOs, big into UFOs.

1:09:57 Speaker 3: Jude I didn't.

1:10:00 Speaker 2: J J and Junior is highly influential on that. He doesn't son son does. His son does a whole show interview with All Your House? Did I not know this?

1:10:17 Speaker 1: Right before the election, his son did an interview with Colthorn and Alisondo and and yeah uh and even the youngest one. He's got his finger on the fucking pulse. That one, that's the one you're gonna really watch out for. He's the one. He's the legacy. If anyone's going to become a political figure later on in life, it's that guy. He's been I don't mean this in a weird, creepy way, but he's groomed for it. Like the others are a little bit like. I don't know. I don't see it being in their future.

1:10:58 Speaker 1: I think the Trump thing is gonna be a little sour for a while, but by the time Baron is president age, I think that kid's gonna make a difference. Yeah, anyway, beside the point I got. I wanted to play this clip because I didn't have I thought I was gonna be able to find a reason for it, but Burchett said, total disclosure. So I have to play it.

1:11:28 Speaker 4: Until some of the briefings I've been in. But and then I'm walking down the street and can I wait?

1:11:37 Speaker 1: I played that one earlier? They all look the same. I think I played the wrong one. Sorry, no I should. This is why you name things, en, folks. Where's the origin one?

1:12:03 Speaker 4: Until some of the briefings I've been in?

1:12:06 Speaker 1: But I think something fucked up because they're all the same now that I'm looking at it, I uploaded five of them and they're all the same clip, so it's actually not me. Damn it. He said total disclosure, and I made a cool little video. So when he says total disclosure, I put the words. You guys will have to just picture it in your head now. I don't know, but yeah, that uh that's gonna I mean, I don't have any does it? Am I missing anything that anyone wanted to talk about and wanted to touch on?

1:12:38 Speaker 1: Uh? Did I miss any any big news article, any headline. I feel like I'm missing one thing and I can't quite put my fucking finger on it.

1:12:52 Speaker 2: What's up?

1:12:54 Speaker 1: I can't quite put my finger on it. Where Dan?

1:13:01 Speaker 3: I'm going through my feed now just to see you because I feel like the same there was one other thing that you were going to maybe talk about.

1:13:07 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm missing something.

1:13:08 Speaker 2: What the fuck?

1:13:09 Speaker 1: It's gonna itch at me all night? Ah, But it's all right. We can wrap it up here if no one can think of it, because if it can't be that important, if if it's not coming right to my mind.

1:13:23 Speaker 3: Oh, I think Jeremy Cobell's documentary.

1:13:26 Speaker 1: Oh shit good no no no no no good good call, good call, good call, could call so and what I did that was the thing in the Birchett video that I did want to show, and that's why I clipped all these because Birchett talks about how he's going to be briefed. I don't know when they recorded the episode, but the episode came out today. I think he recorded it. He must have recorded it at least the day before. So Burchette was talking about being briefed tomorrow. The reason I bring this up is because I don't know if tomorrow is today, or if it was tomorrow or a week from now, or are a week from now a week past.

1:14:07 Speaker 1: I don't know when they recorded that episode, but he was about to be briefed by Pete Hegseeth about something and Corbella had reported on it that something was about to come out in like the next twenty four hours, and that was kind of lining up. So things are getting to like this weird point. I don't know, and I feel like we're on the cusp of something. I feel like that wave is coming. I kind of am getting that pit of my stomach feeling and I don't know why.

1:14:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean George Knap just posted or Jeremy yeah, that we're going to see some documents tomorrow that the release will start happening tomorrow.

1:14:51 Speaker 1: Do you guys think Corbell is tapped into that point where he actually may know if something is coming down and he's helping coordinate and dump out some videos.

1:15:03 Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, I do actually, because that's where they got all these damn videos from the first place. Isn't it like we've literally watched some of.

1:15:09 Speaker 3: Them were leaked. Some of them were leaked by by military you know, personnel, but well just really well connected I mean like him and him and George, I mean they know so many people and that they are the people to go to to release stuff. So yeah, it might be they might know about it.

1:15:26 Speaker 1: If I was the government, if I was, if I was, if I had those forty six videos, and from what I hear, those forty six videos are forty six that we've never seen before. They're all military, they're high quality, and they it will be the definitive like we have proof that something is here.

1:15:48 Speaker 3: That that Where did the list of forty six come from? How did they choose those?

1:15:51 Speaker 1: Luna I think I think that this is why I asked that question. I think she got that because Corbell's long talked about how he knows certain videos, the names, what they're labeled as, because people have told him that. I think she got a big at least a big portion of the list directly from Corbel and and the people that have gone to Corbel. So I think there is some sort of kind of like mutual benefit there that they're kind of like, all right, we're going to use them as an outlet to, you know, help us get the set the playing field.

1:16:30 Speaker 1: It's they're so they're too influential, they have too much crossover for for for those people in government not to use it, it'd be kind of stupid not to, right, Okay.

1:16:49 Speaker 3: Yep, I agree, I agree, And and and you know, I'm sure they had specific videos that they knew about and they either from Floyer releases and some of those are on the list, So yeah.

1:17:01 Speaker 2: They.

1:17:04 Speaker 1: Okay, And again Grush says that these forty six videos and that this announcement or whatever's coming, that this will confirm his story, and confirming his story again go back to what his story is. That's kind of crazy. If that's what's about to happen. I wonder what happened, like I wonder, I wonder what the catalyst will be and how it will be presented. What does modern disclosure look like?

1:17:30 Speaker 2: Right, it's not we're going I hope we're gonna find out.

1:17:34 Speaker 1: I really do, because it's not. It's not. There's There was a book written, a pretty well known book in the UFO community by Bryce Sable and Richard Dolan called a d After Disclosure, and it pitted a scenario where the president comes out under a podium and does the what I call is the Ancient Aliens disclosure my fellow Americans, or honestly, the Nick Pope disclosure, and uh, may he rest in peace. But the president comes up to the podium all talked away, kind of like an Obama. Obama would have done that like that.

1:18:09 Speaker 1: I feel like when I pictured this kind of disclosure, I picture Obama doing it because it's very proper, My fellow Americans, people of the world, we are not alone. Here's the uh, you know, big motivational speech about our one species. Insert that here. Right, it's a very But for if it was Trump, like you just know, it wouldn't be that. It would There's no way that it would just be cut and dry. He would throw in a jabbt chi like it would be kind of comedic actually to see what Trump's disclosure speech would be like, because you know it wouldn't be one hundred percent serious.

1:18:48 Speaker 1: You know, it wouldn't be tell me, you tell me, it would be like it's impossible. You know, you would fucking throw in some jab Absolutely, we suspected Rosie o'donalds Aliens.

1:19:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is the reason we went her around.

1:19:08 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, we went to to get the grace, the gra.

1:19:14 Speaker 1: I know that there would be like it would be the funniest version of disclosure from a president.

1:19:22 Speaker 2: It's true, it's not on a circle drive.

1:19:25 Speaker 1: I can't It's my favorite. I can't. I can't wait to thinking about Trump doing like the disclosure is the funniest thing to be because I can I can think his voice. I just can't intimidate it. But like he he would, Yeah, he would totally throw a job at like someone for looking like an alien, like it would well.

1:19:47 Speaker 2: He just said the one guy had huge ears. You could hear everything right the other day.

1:19:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, so like what do you quickly? I just wrap up thoughts. We know disclosure wouldn't be like like that. What do you guys think quick? Day one? What do you think modern day disclosure looks like it happens? President announces it first day? What does it look like? Dan? And then tell me where people can find you?

1:20:14 Speaker 6: Yeah?

1:20:14 Speaker 3: Day one, no one goes to work. Very few people go to work. There's like big, big shock, time, grieving, excite. Some are excited, some are partying, some are depressed. You can find me on x at uap docta. It's not a professional thing for me. I just enjoy it. It's a hobby. I love to reach out to others. Chat anytime. You can DM me and please follow me.

1:20:39 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely veto day one modern disclosure.

1:20:44 Speaker 2: I think you have possibility of just absolute chaos and riots or people just don't give a shit, like it's either or. For me, it's either or. Honestly, at this point, people are like what we've lived through and seen, it's just like next you know what I mean? So it be it could be no big deal. That's what I kind of hope it is, because I got a family and I don't want to sit here and defend my house from chaos and cuckoo birds, you know what I mean, and you can find me. I have to YouTube channels, once for gaming and one is for UFOs and paranormal stuff.

1:21:16 Speaker 2: So it's Vido UFO seventy six on YouTube. That's also my X handle, and then The Perfect Storm of Gaming is my gaming channel. That's a much larger channel, and I do live streams and I actually interview anybody. So doctor Dan, if you like retro gaming, you can come on the show and they tell me you.

1:21:31 Speaker 3: Want all right, Okay, Oh, I did actually just start a YouTube channel. It's UAP doc Films, but I just started it got like five six videos. It's basically my my ex videos. I put on x those videos going onto YouTube, but they do. Yeah, you do great stuff. I loved all you guys that that take the time to cut together portions of videos and keep everyone updated with what's going on, give your analysis. It's so helpful and it's very much appreciated to guys like me who are kind of constantly go, go go, and maybe don't.

1:22:13 Speaker 3: I mean, I try to listen to as much podcasting as I can, but you know, you guys make it so great and so easy to kind of pick out what's needed, go where's where, where is needed, and see and do everything and try to be able to absorb at all because for some reason we're eating good lately.

1:22:32 Speaker 1: And again, let me guys, let me know what you guys think. What does day one of a modern day disclosure look like? In the comments below. Again, all my links everything will be in the description below as well as these gentlemen's exes and youtubees. Stay humble, stay kind, stay vigilant. No matter what, we are all still human and we do need to have a tomorrow. So if disclosure does come, remember there's a time to party and celebrate. But we don't need to be violent. That's kind of fucking crazy.

1:23:07 Speaker 1: But you know, I think people are going to handle it differently. I think people are gonna some people, you know, I think I think it would be much more of an internal crisis. It's going to be how you set your kid at the table, right, It's like the Santa Claus conversation. How do you sit at the table and tell your child that you know, Santa Claus isn't real or you know? So I think it's going to be. I think it's going to be very existential, just like the pandemic kind of forced us to stop and slow down.

1:23:36 Speaker 1: I think a disclosure would really hold up a mirror to humanity, and I kind of think we need it.

1:23:43 Speaker 2: I do.

1:23:44 Speaker 1: I really kind of think we need it. So who knows what tomorrow will bring, and I'm looking forward to it. Guys, thank you so much for joining the panel tonight.

1:23:53 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

1:23:54 Speaker 1: All right, see you guys next time.

1:24:00 Speaker 6: Men entertaining entity today contain.

1:24:35 Speaker 1: I think that's