ROBERT SALAS EXPOSES SHOCKING UFO ENCOUNTER AT NUCLEAR MISSILE FACILITY TO CONGRESSWOMAN NANCY MACE

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0:39 Speaker 1: And if you're listening on Spotify or Apple, remember to leave five stars as well as a written review if possible. It truly helps us, and it's free, takes twenty seconds, and it helps us garner a wider audience to keep on delivering the best content possible. Now, today we have a little bit of an unorthodox show. I know everybody's here. We are here to talk and see the Captain Robert Salas brief, Nancy Mays. Now, Steve Bassett was there with me. I had got this meeting after the UAP hearings. I almost forgot my headphones.

1:17 Speaker 1: Now I had lined up a couple of interviews when I went out for the UAP hearings after being invited by Congressman Burchett, and when I got there, a couple of days before I got there, actually I had talked with a couple people and decided that I'd put my ego aside and instead of asking Nancy May's questions about the UAP hearing, I would bring Captain Robert Sallas who had an incident fifty years ago in nineteen sixty seven at Malster Mair Force Malmster Air Force Base and where UFO shut down ten nuclear weapons.

1:57 Speaker 1: And these weapons are and they are not connected to each other, so if one goes down, they do not all go down. However, in this case they were all rendered at least for the time being inoperable. Now the following clip is of that closed door meeting. It is our goal and our hopeful inevitable future to get Captain Robert Salles to testify in front of Congress. So people ask me why I did it, Why it's important. It's important because these are the stories that if a congress person hears that a UFO or a craft of some kind that is not human human made, was able to shut down our most aggressive our most powerful weapons, then the implications of it and everything surrounding it.

2:59 Speaker 1: If it doesn't mean make your stomach churn after hearing Robert Salas's testimony, then you probably shouldn't be in Congress or the Senate or any government position for that matter. So I am going to be joined today by my friend Bryce, who I met at the AAP hearing. Hi.

3:15 Speaker 2: Bryce, Hi Tyler, thank you so much for having me on here. Man. You know I'm passionate about the topic and this this is just over the moon for me.

3:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, I told you I have you on. So after the clip, you and I will kind of break down some stuff, talk about our experience at the hearing. But I did want to just get you in here and say how say hi, say hello to everybody before we got started. It's a twenty minute video which I will release separately from this video so that it'll be out there in the ether separately. But are you ready?

3:48 Speaker 2: Absolutely, man, Let's get into it.

3:50 Speaker 1: All right, And again, this is a this is a really really really if this is you know, one of the small things that you know I can do for the a FOE community and the Disclosure effort is facilitate these types of conversations. Uh, then I'm happy I found my place? Did you find yours? And I'm gonna keep asking that to the audience because I think more people in the FOE community. I think you need to find your place and and what you can help, what you can do to to get the ball moving forward instead of just being on X all day.

4:24 Speaker 3: Really yes, they told me, I don't worry, don't worry about you.

4:28 Speaker 1: I'm going to start it over.

4:37 Speaker 4: My staff will if I asked them about it there. Really I have a great here. Well we just had I just had, you know, election to go, and they took a week.

4:46 Speaker 5: Off to come down and help anything I wanted.

4:49 Speaker 4: So I just give answer fantastic, get everything rolling. I just want you guys to be prepared. I gave you the basic brief boat.

4:58 Speaker 5: Yes, I got a basic Okay, great?

5:02 Speaker 3: Uh well, uh, I want you to know that I gave a presentation to Errow in February of twenty twenty three.

5:10 Speaker 6: Really okay, And they also uh exonerated me if that's the sort of were from my NDA which I had. So really yes, they told me, I don't worry, don't worry about your NDA.

5:24 Speaker 5: Just tell us what you know.

5:26 Speaker 3: Uh huh and UH I got a letter from stating that my uh story that I gave them is now an official record, historical record in.

5:40 Speaker 5: The Arrow archives.

5:41 Speaker 3: So I don't know if you can get access to that, but it's was.

5:45 Speaker 7: It in the report at all that they put together this year? M No, So it's a big thing that they left out.

5:51 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, big thing they left out.

5:52 Speaker 4: Okay, so it it's truly just that reported me totally discounted.

5:55 Speaker 5: It's correct, yes, yeah.

5:57 Speaker 3: In fact, my last question after I gave my presentation was are you gonna check with the Air Force to verify.

6:06 Speaker 5: Any part of my story?

6:08 Speaker 3: And they said no mm, because they had tried to verify a previous account that was the uh Robert Jacobs.

6:18 Speaker 5: I don't know if you're familiar with that story.

6:19 Speaker 3: He was UH stationed Vandenburg Air Force Base UH with a very uh.

6:25 Speaker 5: Advanced camera video camera, and he shot.

6:29 Speaker 3: A video of a test flight of Ammy warhead. It was on an Atlas missile UH on the Pacific Test Range.

6:37 Speaker 8: And UH so the Demmy warhead leaves the final stage and is flying towards its so called target and test area, and the UFO comes over and fires.

6:54 Speaker 5: Uh, the laser really at at this dummy warhead.

6:59 Speaker 9: Uh.

7:00 Speaker 5: In fact, it flew circle around this where it was going.

7:05 Speaker 4: But he got video of this.

7:06 Speaker 5: He's got a video of it.

7:08 Speaker 4: Really it is in the public It.

7:10 Speaker 3: Was confiscated by the CIA, but this is actual video.

7:17 Speaker 5: And his commander saw it.

7:19 Speaker 3: They they both saw it together in front of these members of the CIA. Right after that they took the film and.

7:30 Speaker 5: Who knows where it is? Well they else.

7:31 Speaker 10: I told him this, this never happened. You won't ever speak of that.

7:35 Speaker 4: Did he sign did he sign a document? Was he forced to sign a doctor?

7:38 Speaker 3: He did not sign a do And he's come for the Acadams you have. He's available, by the way, could be a witness, okay. Uh oh, So I wanted you to know that I have spoken to Earth.

7:53 Speaker 5: I have also left it out of the report.

7:56 Speaker 4: Is anyone like surprised here?

7:57 Speaker 11: Like I just the federal government and ever ceases to amaze me what they do, like the disinformation, the propaganda, the misinformation just completely Yeah, you know, left it out.

8:11 Speaker 4: It doesn't fit their narrative.

8:13 Speaker 3: But I've got all that documentation. If you wanted any of it, I'd be happy provide it to you. Plus, I've got a complete recording of my interview with Errow, and I told them I was going to record it.

8:26 Speaker 5: They did not object.

8:28 Speaker 3: Really, I was not under any kind of uh, don't say anything to anybody about this, nothing like that.

8:35 Speaker 5: Didn't testify.

8:37 Speaker 4: You're happy about your driver, You're happy.

8:40 Speaker 1: And yeah.

8:44 Speaker 10: About how many right now?

8:46 Speaker 4: That's I can't believe you did that. That's pretty amazing.

8:49 Speaker 5: I wanted to do a station. I wanted to have a record.

8:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's brilliant, that's brilliant.

8:55 Speaker 5: Thank you.

8:56 Speaker 10: But now he needs to do the same thing before Congress.

8:59 Speaker 12: How many nuclear weapons tampering of witnesses?

9:04 Speaker 5: Okay, you have access to.

9:06 Speaker 3: They could testify, Okay, in uh September of nineteen sixty six. But there was a similar incident to mine at Minot Air Force Base, North Dakota. The witness was Dave Schability. Uh and he's still alive. I spoke to him last week. We had the breakfast and uh uh, he's more than willing to testify. Yah.

9:29 Speaker 4: And what year was yours?

9:30 Speaker 5: Mine was sixty seven?

9:32 Speaker 3: Okay, And there was another one in sixty seven, just eight days earlier, So within the span.

9:37 Speaker 7: Of six same location or a different location, different location, different location.

9:42 Speaker 5: That witness is still alive. Also, his name was uh Colonel Walter Fiegel, and.

9:49 Speaker 3: He uh, as far as I know, he's still a lot and well m about Jacobs's lives?

9:54 Speaker 5: What four about Jacobs? Just a lot a lot of well.

9:59 Speaker 3: All of us could te let's see uh so at any rate. Within a span of six months, UFOs disabled thirty thirty nuclear missiles in our inventory within six months, and we've got the witnesses to show it. I've got documentation I provide them.

10:24 Speaker 4: Should find the witnesses. How did you stumble upon them?

10:26 Speaker 5: Or find them?

10:27 Speaker 4: They found me really because you told your story.

10:30 Speaker 3: I told my story publicly first in nineteen ninety four ninety six, I went on a art Bell show.

10:37 Speaker 5: I don't know if you've ever heard of art Bell Coast to coast, but.

10:43 Speaker 4: I was dropping out of high school during that time. You have another thing focused on another thing, like.

10:49 Speaker 5: The progress it was me.

10:51 Speaker 4: I never went to oh dropped down?

10:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, And so as a reason opened that interview that I gave in nineteen ninety six.

11:04 Speaker 5: Uh I received uh contexts by.

11:08 Speaker 3: Many supporting witnesses, including Robert Jennison. Still a lot of sports I know who can validate the fact that all ten my whistles went down.

11:19 Speaker 4: You verified these were all Octaviuty Service with their DD two fourteen.

11:22 Speaker 3: It's all that we all got D two fourteenth. We've got Affi Davids. I think uh Steve provided them.

11:27 Speaker 10: They're floating around or something.

11:29 Speaker 4: Well there here somewhere apparently, and I will ask my staff.

11:31 Speaker 12: But there's a whole other set of witnesses we don't have access to, but they're out there, and these are the service guys.

11:38 Speaker 10: These weren't officers.

11:39 Speaker 5: They were off the top. These are the ones that saw the UAP and.

11:42 Speaker 10: They're running around like crazy, pointing.

11:44 Speaker 1: Guns at As soon as that event was over, they signed these guys.

11:48 Speaker 5: But all over the world just made them disperse a.

11:50 Speaker 3: Lot of them to Vietnam because they were all weapons trained, uh, and they wanted to disperse them.

11:56 Speaker 5: And that's how air Force operates.

11:59 Speaker 3: UH time an incident like this happens, they try to disperse people.

12:03 Speaker 12: Set them all and they were younger and they had families and comfortable, so they don't talk to each other.

12:09 Speaker 10: But he might Now if the word got out, well think for a reason.

12:13 Speaker 4: Can you tell Nancy the feeling that you got when the nukes.

12:19 Speaker 1: Went down, when when they went into nog Uh what message did that send to you once you had compiled the evidence of what happened.

12:28 Speaker 5: Okay, again, that's two questions.

12:30 Speaker 4: First, I did feel what it happened your mind.

12:33 Speaker 3: Immediately like we were under attack because of the second call from a security guard upstairs. He was screaming into the phone. He was very frightened, he was battling. It couldn't make sense out of what he was saying.

12:50 Speaker 5: You coming down, he had only guards.

12:53 Speaker 3: He had six hundred guards up there, and their weapons were pointed at this object. Uh. Basically, I think he wanted me to tell him to go ahead and fire this thing.

13:05 Speaker 5: I didn't say that.

13:06 Speaker 3: What I said was make sure the facility is secure and.

13:10 Speaker 5: Nothing comes in. Uh. I it was really his job. His job was security. So if he wants to fire that thing, go right ahead.

13:21 Speaker 4: Are those those sarsonnel still with us today?

13:25 Speaker 5: Who knows? I'm younger, so probably they have not come to me. Okay, But if yeah, you know, it's very certain.

13:35 Speaker 3: That they have immunity from any kind of an NBA or oath that they took they might comfort.

13:41 Speaker 5: I know another gentleman who.

13:46 Speaker 3: Uh brought another uh Miniman one missile back up on the word.

13:55 Speaker 5: After it was shut down by this UFO. And again that was.

13:58 Speaker 3: The Echo flight incident that happened in March sixteen at Nobston Air Force And what he did was he.

14:06 Speaker 5: Went down, Uh, we've got a little maintenance bag.

14:10 Speaker 3: He started going through his checklist of getting the missile back up a work status and go and behold a UFO or uh this was an orange uh ob jake covered right above him, and the guard upstairs asking him to come up and look at it. And he saw it uh right above him. Uh, and he told the guard to report it, and but he had to come back and finish his job. So he started going through his checklist and he'd get to a certain point in his checklist and missle we shut down.

14:51 Speaker 5: Mm.

14:53 Speaker 3: Well he tried again, and I was going through his standard procedure of checklist get to that exact same point, and this was shut it down. Well of this outdate was still above him. Yeah, he said, he tried.

15:07 Speaker 5: This many many times, the same thing he happened, and.

15:11 Speaker 3: He felt they were demonstrating to him that they knew exactly how our systems were.

15:19 Speaker 5: Exactly and then it makes sense.

15:22 Speaker 12: So what was the metal and he's can he and he put the he put the thing back on on church.

15:26 Speaker 5: Yeah, he got it back up all over again.

15:28 Speaker 1: So if if, if there was a message that was being sent to the human rights.

15:33 Speaker 5: Yeah, what was that? So the message?

15:35 Speaker 3: I think because these incidents had happened not only in the US but overseas.

15:41 Speaker 7: UH.

15:41 Speaker 3: I in my latest book, I outlined and told the stories of UH about thirteen similar incidents that.

15:51 Speaker 5: Happened all over the world, including Russia.

15:57 Speaker 3: And in none of those incidents was any s significant damage done to the weapon system the I in in our case at now streaming UH there was no equipment, it was fried, nothing, it was damaged. It was simply it intermittent UH electrical pulps that was given to a particular part of the guidance system the missile called the logic coupler.

16:22 Speaker 5: This was proven by Boeing.

16:25 Speaker 3: Boeing did a bench test on this so called logic coupler, which is part of.

16:30 Speaker 5: The navigation or a guidance system of the missile.

16:35 Speaker 3: Without that piece of equipment working properly, the navigation system and the guidance system would not properly work.

16:44 Speaker 5: So the missile shut itself down. That's all it happened. Yeah, there was no damage.

16:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, the missiles were all brought up back upon the work within about twenty four hours.

16:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, so what's time?

16:57 Speaker 3: And that to me, that says they were sinks a message about why?

17:03 Speaker 4: What's the message.

17:06 Speaker 10: W t F.

17:09 Speaker 5: Nuclear weapons? Sorry said something wrong? This is congress woman based. That's good.

17:19 Speaker 10: You can do that.

17:21 Speaker 4: Drop them to the bottom. We don't use acronyms here, how about that?

17:24 Speaker 5: Yeah, So that's what I think. Of course, it's just my opinion. By the way, when you.

17:32 Speaker 12: And bobst wrote the masterpiece book uphos and News, he wrote it, okay, all right, you.

17:37 Speaker 5: Helped obviously with it.

17:38 Speaker 10: Great and so after that book did did that bring to.

17:41 Speaker 12: Some people contact you after the book came out because he got ready his things book was.

17:48 Speaker 3: Brought me Robert Jacobs. There is no question about the fact that UFO shut shut down all time of.

17:59 Speaker 5: One missiles at Oscar flight. More it's twenty fourth if you'd seen seven, absolutely not. Yeah, uh and uh the echo flight was uh.

18:10 Speaker 3: I Again, we've got a couple of witnesses the commander. Did the commander echo flight have confirmed the same story. The UFOs were seen over the sights before Varus was shut down.

18:25 Speaker 7: All ten, okay, let me use I think it was fascinating, so truly.

18:35 Speaker 4: How big were the objects in the sky?

18:38 Speaker 5: What's that?

18:39 Speaker 4: How big were the uh?

18:40 Speaker 5: Uh forty or fifty feet?

18:41 Speaker 4: That was hard to tell because there was it at night.

18:44 Speaker 3: There were bright lights at night. Uh it was hard to see inside the light. The light was pulsating.

18:52 Speaker 4: What color lights were?

18:53 Speaker 5: Reddish? Orange? Is what I was told. Uh So.

19:00 Speaker 3: Again, my ask, if we had to ask, was uh uh we would? I think we could all forward us at least well, welcome the opportunity to tell this in front of congression hearing.

19:18 Speaker 5: I think it needs to be public.

19:20 Speaker 12: And it's also the case that if in fact the congressional hearing was scheduled and it was known that we they were very un much much interested in in such people testified, where it was really gonna make a difference.

19:31 Speaker 10: I have a feeling a number of people we don't even know about, with the credentials it's gonna turn out and say in this case, I'm willing.

19:37 Speaker 7: To comfort Yeah, that's interesting and awful with my staff to if you send information, find out you know where it is that they can brief me on it.

19:45 Speaker 4: I've been traveling. You would have been crazy last seven days. This is our first week back.

19:50 Speaker 7: So it's super crazy with reorganizing uh the Congress and everything for the next session.

19:55 Speaker 4: But awful with my staff shoot to look at the documents and affidavits you provided.

19:59 Speaker 7: I I am more fascinated and confused now than ever because it's just so.

20:03 Speaker 4: Much welcome to our world.

20:05 Speaker 7: Well, I know, I'm now on Reddit, uh, you know, and and there's you know, UFO, Twitter and you.

20:11 Speaker 4: Know all the but their reporters. Now, I didn't know Schellenberger until this hearing, and now I studied up on Holy Cow. He had multiple witness, multiple sources, you know.

20:21 Speaker 7: And then we talked about private contractors today and injuries that people you know have have received based on a crash root chiebo program we've been told doesn't exist. So it's just, you know, the math doesn't add up. They're hiding something from us, and so what all and it's extensive and how much are we spending on this?

20:36 Speaker 5: And so?

20:37 Speaker 7: And then who all's involved? And how are they screwting the law Title ten and all those things. So it's been highly illuminating an educational for me.

20:44 Speaker 12: We heard a rumor that there was an attempt to Larry stop you're hearing all that.

20:48 Speaker 10: We heard the rumor too over over macular constellation.

20:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, we heard a rumor too. I don't know. I was like, I'm holding hearing no matter what if it's like in my office.

21:00 Speaker 5: Are we contacted about you? No?

21:01 Speaker 7: I was not directly contacted, but we've heard the rumor also. Okay, all right, yeah, So I'm gonna ask.

21:06 Speaker 5: You just one thing.

21:09 Speaker 13: With people like and Bob Jacobs and those stories being out there, what would be your next move to get people in front of a hearing?

21:23 Speaker 4: How well sueing what you're doing right now? So sending the documents that you have to my office.

21:29 Speaker 7: I would send them to Burchett's office too, and to Comber's office.

21:34 Speaker 4: He's the chairman of Oversight.

21:36 Speaker 7: I also sit on the House Armed Services Committee, so I think this is interesting.

21:39 Speaker 4: I don't know that.

21:40 Speaker 7: The Chairman of House arm Services would have ever hear in the list, but this is like definitely.

21:44 Speaker 4: House Armed Services. I would love to do it over there if they would let me. Now will they let me? I'm not a chairman over there, not yet.

21:52 Speaker 7: I could you know, if I'm a subcommittee chairman, I can go to the big chairman and say, hey, I'd like to.

21:57 Speaker 4: Do this, because I think it'd be We've.

21:58 Speaker 7: Not had one on housetarm services and this is very military oriented. But always a backstop is oversight as well, dependent upon what the chairman wants. And to do this hearing I have to get I had to get permission from leadership. So I'll look through it. I'll sift through it with my staff and see you can come up with a plan. I mean, I'm fascinated by it. I'm more fascinated now.

22:19 Speaker 4: I have more questions. I mean I could have.

22:20 Speaker 7: Asked questions all night and then I just had Every time someone would answer a question, I add more questions.

22:26 Speaker 4: And you know, so we always have five minutes.

22:28 Speaker 7: It's not a good way that the implications of thing he's saying, Yeah, even if it's a slight possibility, that's something. Well, even if it's our own technology that we haven't identified turning news on and off, it would be huge. I mean, either way, it's like a win win. I love the idea of it. I have to talk with leadership in my committee staff, but it's something that I find you very credible. I look forward to reading what you guys have and putting it together and have my staff. But together it's very interesting and I don't think I think today was a success.

23:03 Speaker 4: So I don't think it stops. If today was a total dud, it'd be over. I mean, if this went no, But there's so much to unpack after today.

23:10 Speaker 7: I don't think people realize the amount of different information that was valuable.

23:15 Speaker 4: You got the documents about AMACT, constellation entered into the record.

23:19 Speaker 7: We talked about crash betrieval programs or versus engineering injuries that people have received at crash sites. So there's just this I have to unpack it all because it was a lot. There was a lot of I think valuable insight. We even talked about which private contractors do submersibles versus doing aeronautics. Yeah, but I mean like we taught actually named contractors.

23:43 Speaker 5: They didn't.

23:43 Speaker 7: We didn't do that last time. So you know, piecing it together it's kind of like a patchwork.

23:47 Speaker 12: Well, and more people will come forward, So I'm going to email Sewan the electronics as well as links to certain materials being.

23:56 Speaker 5: Health with you, I don't get that out by tomorrow.

23:58 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sure nothing here happens fast, but I would love to do ET's and Knicks because I think, I mean, it's it's valid, whether it's art technology or something from out of.

24:11 Speaker 4: This world is huge. And thank you for coming over and enjoy yourself.

24:27 Speaker 1: All right where disappeared? So again, Now that is the closed door briefing that I was able to facilitate with Captain Robert Sallas and UFO activist Steve Bassett, with Nancy Mace, who chaired the hearing on November thirteenth that you and I both attended. How what did you think now that that's part of that that's going to be the final scene in the documentary that I'm making, and I'm some of this stuff at the end I'm gonna chop off and probably won't need. But that was it in its entirety, nothing taken out, nothing inserted, just clean cut.

25:13 Speaker 1: That was the.

25:14 Speaker 2: Interview, you know, Tyler, I think it's very very encouraging. You know. It's like Nancy said herself, if that hearing would have been a dud, probably will have moved on to that next phase where you got the film and you know, have Bob tell his story, right, I think it it. You know, she was very chock full questions, like she said too. And the more we can get this, especially Bob's kind of story with you know, like she said it herself, ets and nukes, I think it's so captivating for even on the individual level to know just how much this this hangs over our head without us knowing.

25:55 Speaker 2: You know that there's a select few that truly know the state of affairs when it comes to our well being, our national security, and how this whole other variable plays into.

26:05 Speaker 1: That, right right, And you know, I think something that I've always been a little bit concerned with his nuclear weapons and are our our teetering society right on the implications of uh of these kind of these kind of weapons. You know, we're talking about uh life ending and or or holocausts, you know, scenarios if those things start flying. So, you know, I think that as a congresswoman, right who had just she had literally now remember not even five hours or eight hours before that, she was in a hearing with the Elizondo Schellenberger.

26:54 Speaker 1: I always forget the NASA guy's name, I uh, and then tended to God at the rear admiral. So this she That interview was at eight o'clock at night and the you know, we had been up since four am that morning in line. So you know Robert Bob at his as beautiful age of I think he's eighty eighty seven. I think he's eighty seven. If I'm if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but it's it's right around there. I mean, he was a trooper. He didn't eat waiver for a second. And like I'm not kidding you. He was there before me.

27:40 Speaker 1: I got there around like four thirteen am. He was already at the building waiting and then we got in line. Uh. And that's obviously that when I got introduced to you, and then we went through the hearings. I brought some pictures, you know, I know, so I got to we got to meet Ron James.

27:57 Speaker 2: There.

27:57 Speaker 1: This is me and Bob while we were while waiting outside in the cold, it was freezing. Then we're inside there's Danny Shean doing some business. Uh, he's doing the business. But I did get on the outside, which was which was radical. It was it was pretty cool. So you had your own experience and you made your way over to the UFO hearings. I saw you there. What was it like, uh, to to have that be your first experience with the UFO community, because that's wild, I.

28:36 Speaker 2: Would say it was, you know it. It was very refreshing and validating. Validating, I think would be my key word, because you know, this is something you read about online. I've engaged with other people and talked about their sightings my sightings online and you know, it's nice to shoot text back and forth, but to see so many people come together and stand by their words, some of these people for years and years, in years, Tyler with quite a reputation to them, quite the certificates, you know, I mean just character like Bob.

29:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, Bob, but so so On the thumbnail, I put something and he said this to me because I again, I got the meeting for Nan with Nancy Mace for myself, because I was doing this little documentary about my my trip to DC. It was only last second that I kind of shifted gears and put my ego aside for the greater good of disclosure or or the efforts of disclosure. And I don't want to sound like, oh, cool, Like, you know, I did something heroic. But I think it's important that we pay homage, homage to the people that got us here, right, the people like like Danny Shean, uh, like Steve Bassett, like Bob Salas, uh, like Jacques Fallet like uh h, doctor Heinik, like John Mack, I mean, Stan Friedman.

30:05 Speaker 1: The list goes on and on and on, and we are standing on the shoulders of giants. And if I can make a little bit of a difference, even just a little bit, by introducing someone who's spent fifty years waiting to tell this story, Ye fifty this is that was a meeting fifty years in the making. He all he wanted to do. And there's a moment in the video that you see it all Bob, I think really wants wanted to hear. Was someone in an official position say, Bob, I heard your story. You're credible, and I will take this further, you know, And that's what he got.

30:52 Speaker 1: And you can see in that interview this smile, and you see fifty years.

30:57 Speaker 2: Of pain and pressure and.

31:00 Speaker 1: Pressure and it just kind of all washes away and frustration, yeah yeah, yeah, frustration and you know, for for for me to be able to facilitate something like that for a man like him, who I look up to and have looked up to for for I mean, god knows how many years now that that that's a price I'll pay every day, every day.

31:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, him as a serviceman too, you know, be validated. I know a lot of servicemen have to deal and live with and you know, they even went into that how they get broken up after a sighting so they can't speak amongst it to each other. I think that's I think that's horrific. I think that truly probably alters and is detrimental to the state of our servicemen their mental state on top of everything they already deal with.

31:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I, uh, thank you. Uh it's nice to see you. But uh yeah, I hope everything's going good. But you know, I I there are people like Jeremy Corbel, George Knapp that they also you know, do this kind of thing, and they're they're they're very involved in Congress. And I know that there's been some there's with the Immaculate Constellation thing, there's been a little bit of a hiccup and there's been a little bit of discourse in the community and I don't really want to touch it yet because I don't I don't think that's what we should be doing.

32:34 Speaker 1: But I will say that I did get to meet Jeremy that day, and for the first time. I've talked to him a couple of times, uh privately, but this time I got to meet him. Uh when I because you know how, I got let in a half hour early. Yeah, so we had the room to ourselves. There was anyone who was pressed, and Corbel was standing there, and I saw the opportunity and I just kind of walked over and said, you know, thank you, and you know for all that he's done for the community, because he has done a lot.

33:02 Speaker 1: Yeah. I have my differences with Corbel. I have my differences with Alexander. God knows, I have my differences with Aleixando. But you know, I still took a picture with them. I you know, I still shook his hand and said thank you for your service. Like we sometimes we need to be able to disagree with people and to be able to move on, but to have the conversation.

33:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's a beautiful branching point to where I wanted to go with this. I think the most, the most uplifting part of that day was the bipartisan push. After going through such a tedious and aggressive political environment for so many years now, it seems like my whole life at this point, to hear just one topic be discussed from both sides of the aisle with passion and respect was just.

33:54 Speaker 5: Right.

33:54 Speaker 1: I mean, because I mean, look at look at what's happening this week, like you know, sad Representative Nancy Mace and Alexandra or I'm sorry, AOC, I just call her AOC, Alexandria Cortez. I can't do the oh they're fighting over like the trans bathroom issue, right, yeah, but hard. But they can be in a room and talk about UAP together, no problem.

34:24 Speaker 5: Right right.

34:26 Speaker 2: And you know, Bob storing conjunction with I think a desire for both iles to want to work on bipartisanship and try to find roots to make that the norm again. You know, you you put those two things in conjunction. I think we have a great future on the topic and amongst our congressional members.

34:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, what did you think of of what you heard in from the testimony because uh or what was your overall summation? Because I'm gonna play a clip. It's Nancy. It's this is also from the documentary I'm making, but m it's a clip from of Nancy Mace and her five minutes at I believe it was the end of the hearing or the or the first part. I can't remember. But what was your what was your summation of what was spoken about? Do you think that the hearing moved the ball forward in any way? And like I said, what was it like in the room that you were in.

35:29 Speaker 2: In the over I was in the overflow room. I mean it was consistent clapping, cheering. You know, you could tell people have come with the passion, and you know what got brought up a lot And I think your average Joe will speak to this, whether you believe it or not, is the government hides a lot from us. They have a lot of money going to places we will probably never ever know of, and that's just simply not right. So for credible people to come out and try to push the bill further saying well, this is where some of your money's going, I think we can all agree that that's worth looking in to.

36:01 Speaker 1: What's funny because not even like not even four days later, the Pentagon failed another audit, another audit. They've never passed audit.

36:09 Speaker 2: It's almost comical, Tyler, how much these things just play hand.

36:12 Speaker 1: In hand and and and so say I say, say say you or me. We were billionaire, a billionaire, and we we were audited and they they we couldn't pass our audit. You know, we would be facing jail time or let or serious fines and charges. Right, but the government is just like, ah ah, sorry, guys, we'll try again next year. Hopefully we'll get it right.

36:43 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Yeah, it's it's on the wrist. It's insincere, it's goofy, and it's not you know what I want from the people that at the end of the day we vote in and pay our money to. It's it's simply not right now. When you take it to something like the NHI topic, the UAP topic, and we branch out into what are the implications of this for our state? You know what we are, the human condition? What could this mean for possible energy sources, transportation, medical care in the future. You know, I think when it all starts to come together, that these beautiful, potentially beautiful advances in technology are right on the other side of whoever's gatekeeping this.

37:29 Speaker 2: I think that that's the major push that needs to happen, is that there is just a plethora of a new world on the other side. I don't think anyone has the right to gate keep that from the American people or humanity in a total.

37:42 Speaker 1: And what Eric says here is absolutely true. Eric, by the way, plays a huge role. Eric actually was critical in getting that Nancy Mace interview greenlit. So thank you, Eric, and thank you for all you do for me. He's such a but he says, it's it's important for older generations to hear this in that kind of setting, so like a and that it does make sense because the fact that like guys like my dad, they just think this this topic is such bullshit and until until the most powerful people are literally like saying like we're not alone, he's not gonna believe it.

38:23 Speaker 1: He's just simply not right. And for him, these go a long way. I I they go, you know, I point to these hearings, and you know, he doesn't really have a comeback for it, aside from like, you know, the government's corrupt and it's like okay, cool back at square zero.

38:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I'm in my immediate circle. I've seen a crack open the first hearing and by far the second one. I mean, any any of my friends or coworkers that were on the sidelines, they're definitely they have some sort of investment into it now, they're definitely thinking about it.

38:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, John, She says that, Uh so, this is absolutely true. So some of the things that you didn't get to see in the the Robert Salace interview because I was not recording because I could not be recording, was the the when he got went into the event. Now we were submitting paperwork to her AFFI David's uh other information as well. Uh so that we couldn't record that part. But uh Steve Bassett, that's where he came in. So that's why I, you know, I didn't just bring Robert in. I brought both of them in because Robert has the story right, but Steve has that expertise and he's got that you know, he's an UFO activist, he's he knows Capitol Hill and he and he knew what he was doing.

39:50 Speaker 1: So for for me to to bring those guys in there, that was I had a I thought because one thing that Bob didn't say and you don't hear them say is you know okay, we'll say that in a closed door briefing, or I can't tell you that, right. No, we get we gave names, dates, we gave testimony, we gave uh everything. We threw the kitchen sink at this. And now we're being reached out to by other members of Congress and potential senators and you know, future high ranking officials in the next administration are asking to hear Bob's story.

40:31 Speaker 1: So, uh, you know what I mean that for me, that that that this is big.

40:38 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful segue into the topic for people, especially, you know, people that don't believe in the topic on Capitol Hill. You bring it to them in front in such a way. I mean, it's almost undeniable.

40:53 Speaker 1: If I told you that ten nukes were shut down by an unknown object and you had any stake in you know, national security, if you did not respond with tell me more, you shouldn't be in that job. Right. So that's that's my position, and that's why I did what I did. Now I'm going to bring up this clip. It's quick, five minute ones. It's just a It kind of refreshes the mace questioning with the witnesses on November thirteenth.

41:31 Speaker 14: I will now recognize myself for five minutes of questioning. I have a lot of questions, and I have a lot of witnesses, So I would just ask if it's yester or not to please just tell me yes or now. If it requires more than that, be very succinct, because I would like to go down the line and ask as.

41:47 Speaker 4: Many questions as possible.

41:48 Speaker 14: So for the Admiral this morning, first former DoD official Chris Mellon reached out to you about satellite imagery from twenty seventeen.

41:56 Speaker 4: That depicts a UAP.

41:57 Speaker 14: What were the dates in twenty seventeen when this card?

42:00 Speaker 9: I can't share with you the details, man, but I can do it in the closed setting, and I can still tell you to report on it.

42:07 Speaker 1: Okay, So who has the imagery?

42:09 Speaker 9: I can tell you that in the closed setting.

42:11 Speaker 14: Can you describe what was depicted in the satellite imagery?

42:14 Speaker 1: Just a description?

42:15 Speaker 9: It was a UAP, man, that's it.

42:18 Speaker 1: No other description.

42:19 Speaker 9: The term that the analysts use, they call it the button. It was a it was a disc shaped object.

42:27 Speaker 1: Okay, where was it?

42:28 Speaker 9: I can't tell you that, man?

42:30 Speaker 1: Okay? All right?

42:33 Speaker 14: Mister Alizondo, you say it in your testimony that quote, advanced technologies not by.

42:38 Speaker 1: Our government or any other government.

42:41 Speaker 14: Are monitoring sensitive military installations around the globe end quote. If these technologies are not made by any government, who's making them private companies? Or you implying they are crafted by a non human intelligence?

42:53 Speaker 15: Well, ma'am, that's precisely why we're here. The problem is that temporally speaking over decades, not just the last ten year before.

43:01 Speaker 14: To put this in perspective, when are these private companies you're implying or is this non human intelligence?

43:06 Speaker 5: It maybe both.

43:07 Speaker 15: When it comes to Blue Force technologies, I would not be able to discuss.

43:10 Speaker 14: Okay, are you read into secret UAP crash retrieval programs?

43:14 Speaker 15: We would have to have a conversation in a close session, ma'am. I signed documentation three years ago that restricts my ability to discuss specifically crash retrievals. I submitted from my book through the dopts Or process, which took a year to be reviewed, and what is in the book is what I was told I'm allowed to talk about.

43:32 Speaker 14: Has the government conducted secret UAP crash rechieval programs?

43:35 Speaker 3: Yes?

43:35 Speaker 1: Or no, yes, okay.

43:37 Speaker 14: Were they designed to identify and reverse engineer alien craft?

43:40 Speaker 1: Yes or no?

43:40 Speaker 5: Yes?

43:41 Speaker 1: Yes? Does the US.

43:42 Speaker 14: Government have any reverse okay? When I said a question about retrieval programs, do any US contractors have the same.

43:50 Speaker 15: I would prefer to address on a closed session, ma'am.

43:53 Speaker 1: Okay.

43:53 Speaker 14: In your book, you mentioned government employees who've been injured by UAPs, placed on leave and receiving government compensation for their injuries.

44:00 Speaker 2: Is that correct?

44:01 Speaker 15: That is correct?

44:01 Speaker 1: How can the government.

44:02 Speaker 14: Deny we have recovered craft if they're paying people because they've been injured by recovered craft.

44:08 Speaker 15: Man, that's a great question. That's why I think we're here again because I've seen the documentation by the US government for several of these individuals who have sustained injuries as a result of a UAP incident.

44:20 Speaker 14: It's a crazy idea, right, the hypocrisy and Okay, mister Schellenberger, I'm going to say it again to be very clear, Immaculate Constellation, what's its mission and how are they funded?

44:34 Speaker 1: She is a Specify two.

44:36 Speaker 10: As I stated, it's mission is.

44:39 Speaker 16: It's an unacknowledged special access program. Its mission is to document UAPs.

44:46 Speaker 1: Okay, and do.

44:46 Speaker 14: You for your story and your report. Do you have more than one credible source? I do sourcing, okay, and then why do you believe your sources to be credible? How do you judge the veracity of the documentation you've been provided about this program?

44:59 Speaker 16: I checked the sources, and they are who they say they are. They are current or former government officials. I should also I want to also add that I did not specify that they were Defense Department employees. I didn't specify the agency nor the gender.

45:14 Speaker 14: Would they have included non government employees people that are employed by the government.

45:18 Speaker 16: These are I'm comfortable saying that these are government or previously government employees.

45:25 Speaker 14: Any of them currently employed by a private contractor or private contractors.

45:28 Speaker 10: I'd rather not say.

45:30 Speaker 14: Okay, what's the key takeaway in just a few seconds about the Mactic constellation document you provided us today?

45:37 Speaker 16: I think that what the American people need to know is that the US military and intelligence community are sitting on a huge amount of visual and other information still photos, video, photos, other sensor information, and they have for a very long time. And it's not those fuzzy photos and videos that we begin in those very clear, high RESK high resolution.

45:58 Speaker 14: How many vision rules, graphics, videos, photos, I.

46:02 Speaker 16: Mean I've been told hundreds, you know, maybe thousands. I mean, I also wanted to say because there was some there was some conversation around concern around the revealing of these materials, revealing the source collections. But some of these are shot from helicopters using normal videos of oceans. I just think that's absurd that somehow you're going to be revealing some secret US technology by revealing that you've shut you've photographed orbs off the coast of Kuwait.

46:28 Speaker 14: Okay, think you have eight seconds, mister Gold, Did NASA, the NASA Independent Study Team get briefed on what you call ASAP very quickly?

46:36 Speaker 17: I flagged the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System asligation program to our chair and our DFO. We did not get briefed, but I believe it is definitely worth looking into. That was probably the largest UAP review effort ever, and I think us a lot of interest data, including revealing limits. I don't know if my fellow litmus Lou might want he did Yeoman's work on it, might want to comment.

46:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyway, I've watched it five times now. It's still just was crazy to hear it.

47:04 Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, so and and I wanted to bring that that that clip up, especially because I think it demonstrates, like you said, the veracity of of Nancy and her clamor her real desire to get to the bottom of this comme hell or high water. And I truly do think that, you know, in this situation, we stop seeing red blue or parties, and we need to see the future of the human civilization and protecting it at all costs because life is precious. And you know if just our solar system is is proof of that, right, you know, out of eight eight planets, seven planets, nine planets, one you know, we know sustains intelligent life that you know or or has the capacity to do so in the form that we've taken.

48:02 Speaker 1: So life is precious and we need to do whatever it is uh to to to keep these discussions happening at these high levels, uh, especially when things are looking like they are, Like we talked about it before recording, but Russia just used the intercontinental ballistic missile in a war zone, which is the first time ever conflict. Yeah and and and dude, that ship keeps me up at night. So and and we're being you know, Pigeon oled here and kind of just stuck in the middle of this of this fight that has been happening between the US and and other nuclear powers.

48:55 Speaker 1: And and it just seems that, you know, whether it's the Zimbabwe case for the Aerials school or a countless other abduction events where the the people who encounter these beings come back. And by the way, that's this includes Bob that people don't realize this that.

49:18 Speaker 2: He had experiences after Yes.

49:21 Speaker 1: This this is not just his story about being at Malmstrom that day. It went further, so plan so many people have gotten this message of nuclear nuclear weapons are going to be the destruction of your species. If you're not careful, you're playing with fire. And for me, that is that that that is the moral of the story. That's the moral of Bob's story, of Bob Jacobs's story, of of any other story. There's there's a case in Russia that George knapbroke where instead of them turning off the nuclear missiles, they turned them on, right and so for for like I think it was like two minutes the launch control facility, the people in it thought that World War three was about to start because of some malfunction, and you know, then they later found out that they were that that a UFO was was seen breaching the complex, and you're just going to start asking yourself.

50:31 Speaker 1: And other people like Robert Hastings have said that every research facility, every nuclear base that the United States has has been visited by a UFO, like at least one documented case. To me, there's like there's there's just a clear, clear message being sent, is that these you're playing with fire literally.

50:56 Speaker 2: I think you're absolutely right, you know, back to Bob and that this is the part of the phenomenon that needs highlighted way more is the messages they're trying to give to us as as a species, nuclear intent specifically. You know, I think we go forward too much. Those of us that are aware of these circumstances, these situations, I think we take the message for granted a little. You know, these these intelligences, they're giving us a warning. I think that much is clear to make out. But I don't think we should assume that if things were to go hot, they have a solution for us as well.

51:33 Speaker 1: Right like Dad, he's not gonna You know, a lot of the UFO community think and and this tends to align and I'm not.

51:41 Speaker 15: I'm not.

51:42 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be like a judgmental to this group of people because I do believe that I actually, I do believe that there is some very very very good evidence to suggest that something like the Aunaki, we're absolutely one thing, but the ancient alien people tend to think that if we start throwing nukes that the alien overlords will come down and save us. Dude, don't hold your breath.

52:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm not trying to put the well being of everything in some unknown, phenomenous hands. I mean, and you know, you're talking about how different groups exist within this community. It's such a hard topic to you know. I think that's why common ground is so important in this group, because there's so much uncommon ground just due to the nature of the phenomena rights it's unknown, it is inherently unknown, it's unidentified, and so everyone's kind of pulling their own straw. But the more we can recognize patterns like the nuclear pattern, and we can compare that and we can make that a cohesive narrative for these things, I think that's how we get more people on board.

52:54 Speaker 2: Too. Well.

52:55 Speaker 1: The thing I don't want to happen is I don't want it to be used. And and and I actually give credit to Alizondo lately, or at least in his book, this is the approach he took. He said that there is a difference between hostile and indifferent because these UFOs are their occupants. They could be indifferent to humanity, right, but not hostile. However, we would see that as a I don't. I just don't want us to start acting like this is a threat, because that's when it gets That's when it gets really scary, right, the threat, the threat from space, the the you know what what others have called the false flag operation that that Werner von Braun talked about and doctor greer Uh talks about.

53:52 Speaker 1: You know that that is a scenario that's that is frightening, because I do I do think that there are I think it's stupid to think that all advanced civilization would be would be good. I just don't see any hostility yet, if that makes sense. Yeah, absolutely, Like we're still here having this conversation. If anyone was hostile to us, like we'd be enslaved by now they were or they would have you know, took a chunk of the asteroid belt and just flipped it our way.

54:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, just technologies like that. It's but it'd be done quick, you know, imagination, but it'd be done.

54:34 Speaker 1: But it leads you down an interesting path of like you know, you don't look at like a battery, right, like a car battery. Right, you don't look at a car battery and and and then you know, look at the negative side and go, oh it's bad, right, No, it completes the circuit. It brings balance. So we know that in our own civilization, Like people think that the only way that our species advances as if we advanced past you know, violence or or or or negativity. I don't think that will ever happen, But I think if you have enough of the population advance past it, then yes you're good.

55:19 Speaker 1: Right, you know, you're always going to have those people that are bad. They're just wired differently. And I think that goes for everything. You know, there's a yin and yang, there's a balance to this all and and uh, nuclear weapons, Uh, they're just they're just something that scared me because you know, we don't really get to say in that once they go, they go.

55:45 Speaker 5: Yeah.

55:46 Speaker 2: You know that was even demonstrated with the ICBM field tests that Russia carried out just within the week. I didn't get a notification on my phone.

55:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I actually have a clip from I know it's Rogan. People have their ship to say about Joe Rogan, but I think what he says in this in this clip is actually very pertinent because he's absolutely right, like we don't realize like life would change just like that, because that's like like if we start. Annie Jacobson wrote a book recently. I think it became a best seller about are if a nuclear I forget what the book's called. Damn it. If anyone in the audio, if anyone the audience knows the book title, please put it in the comments.

56:33 Speaker 1: I don't want to look it up. But she details the moment, the moment that a nuclear weapon from one of our enemies, whether it be you know, Russia, China, north Korea. I think in that in her example, I think she does use North Korea. I'm not, I'm not, But anyway she details is the whole thing. And she did a lot of extensive work and interviews, and she had found out that the United States is a policy that if a nuclear weapon is in the air, the President has like I think it's something like nine minutes total from launch to impact to make a decision and the world or don't blow right or take the take the hit, because once we launch one, we launch them all.

57:37 Speaker 1: We have a use it or lose it.

57:39 Speaker 2: Policy, right, absolutely, we do.

57:43 Speaker 1: So tears the shit out of me.

57:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man. The Russians they have a dead man switch policy. You know, they have readers that if they don't get a ping back from Moscow within a certain amount of time, the computer assumes that Moscow's and taking out, then they'll do readings for radiation and such in the surrounding area. If that things for that as well, then it launches its own. So it's set up in such way. No matter what, we all lose.

58:13 Speaker 1: And you know who always loses, the civilians.

58:17 Speaker 2: The civilians and any the civilians.

58:21 Speaker 1: Look at what's happening in Israel, Look what's happening in the Ukraine. It's the citizens that lose. It's not the it's not the one percenters, no, no, but.

58:34 Speaker 18: Listening, just because the outgoing president or whoever the fuck is actually running the country is decided to do something, decided to do something fucking insane, fucking insane, and we're all sitting there watching it and people cheering it. On CNN was saying, like, finally see what their headline was about Zelensky using about Biden giving Zelenski the ability to use long range missiles. US made long range It's not like nobody knows where they came from. It's not like nobody knows we've been the how do you how are you allowed to do?

59:08 Speaker 18: Yeah, like the people don't want you to be there anymore. This should be like some sort of like a pause for like significant actions that could potentially start World War three. Maybe that would be a good thing that we would like to avoid from up a dying former president. It's the whole thing is nuts.

59:31 Speaker 15: I mean, look, I don't know about politics.

59:35 Speaker 18: Is terrified. Fuck you man, fuck you people, You fucking people are about to start World War three.

59:43 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy.

59:44 Speaker 2: Rush a fire missile today.

59:45 Speaker 18: I Feelah, they fired an intercontinental ballistic missile for the first time ever, So the first time one of those has ever been used.

59:52 Speaker 5: That inanity.

59:53 Speaker 18: Fucking insanity, because those intercontinental ballistic missiles can have nukes on them. This wouldn't didn't, but if it does, the whole world changes, and it changes because the military industrial complex, and it changes because the money that's going to Ukraine, and it changes because the outgoing president or whoever the fuck is actually running the country is decided to do something, decided to do something fucking insane, fucking insane, and we're all sitting there watching it and people are cheering it.

1:00:19 Speaker 18: On CNN was saying, like, finally see what their headline was about Zelensky, using about Biden giving Zelenski the ability to use long range missiles. US made long range. It's not like nobody knows where they came from. It's not like nobody knows we've been funding this. It's a proxy war. The whole thing is fucking insane. It's insane. Come to the negotiation table, sit down, work this out. Stop killing everybody. US allows Ukraine to use long rain missiles. So what did they say? Someone had said that, like CNN was saying that it was a good thing, which I think is how how is the left gone so far crazy that they think it's a good thing to launch missiles.

1:01:07 Speaker 18: That's what's scary about life, is like you don't want to pay attention to that ship. You just want to live your life. You want to just be care free and have fun and do the thing that you're passionate about, and meanwhile the world is burning.

1:01:18 Speaker 1: And at that high level, it's like there's nothing.

1:01:22 Speaker 18: Well we can We voted Trump and his idea is to stop.

1:01:36 Speaker 1: Great. I think we were muted when it plays videos that like automatically mutes us. So I don't know if anyone could hear our commentary anyway, But I agree with Joe here I got I can't not agree with them. It's it's it's due insanity. Think about this, Think about this. The only thing keeping us from total nuclear holocaust is because or it's the notion of an acronym called that spells out mad mad. This is fucking insane, but nobody wants to talk about it because that would mean admitting that the US is part of the problem, maybe not the solution.

1:02:25 Speaker 1: I think we need to fucking realize that we're flawed, we're broken, and that that that the aliens aren't coming down to save us anytime soon, Like in my opinion, if I was them, we haven't. They're there, and and you know what, like people that were standing in line with us were like people. They were people like Chris Bledsoe, right right, you know, uh, just and and others like Robert and and and like I said, Danny Shean and and then James Fox, h Jesse Michaels, the guys from Yes Theory.

1:03:06 Speaker 5: Uh.

1:03:06 Speaker 1: There there were so many people there that you know, I look around and I just you know, I really love I love this topic. But like at some point, like we got to separate it and be like, Okay, there's real life too, because you know, these politicians like we want to have UAP hearings, We want to have this discussion in congress. You know how we get you know how that ends very quick World War three. World War three ends our conversation really quickly. All of a sudden, UFOs don't matter, and we're fucking teetering right now.

1:03:49 Speaker 2: We are, man, dare I say, it's the closest we've been since Cuban Missile Crisis to this kind of calamity. And it's just it's really you know, we saw a comment while we were watching that clip someone said they didn't even know this was all going on. And with ICBM, I hear that far too much from people I'm around. If this was the sixties and we had a series of events going on like this, there'd be PSAs pushed out on the radio. They'd be building those bomb shelters that we see now that are under libraries, that are outdated.

1:04:21 Speaker 2: We think of them as a thing of the past. Fin I think that's just that's the public's perception of where the state of things are, and that is up to our government and our media to kind of set the stage for how we should be viewing those kind of events. And right now they are just very very inadequate. They don't want to create any sort of fear, any sort of panic. They would rather have things just march on the way they are. And that's what's going to end us up in World War three. I think once it finally starts and whoever slaps the label on it, you know, kind of like you described when we talked, whenever the label of World War three is thrown on it and then it's sold to the people like that, I think you're gonna have a lot of mass panic.

1:05:04 Speaker 1: It's over.

1:05:06 Speaker 2: I truly it's unfortunate because a society should have been able to see those twenty steps ahead.

1:05:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we should be and and and honestly, you know, if if, if, if it takes something like a person like Donald Trump to stop this fucking sign me up. I don't care anymore. I don't care anymore.

1:05:29 Speaker 2: I don't carry anymore either, man, you know, I.

1:05:34 Speaker 1: Just I just want the fun. I want people to stop dying. That's what I want. I want us to go and I want us to be a civilization that works towards get into Mars, because yes, it's the next big thing. And I don't know if you saw Neil de grass Tyson on Bill Maher, Yeah, dude, what it does? What a joke?

1:05:59 Speaker 9: What?

1:05:59 Speaker 5: Like?

1:06:00 Speaker 1: Honestly, I've never wanted to slap Neilder grass Tyson more than now because he's what he's implying by what he is saying, is that the only way scientific advancement in space happens is if there's an enemy that we need to beat there. And he's telling you the dirty fucking truth. And nobody will bad an eye, nobody will bad any but elon. He's not asking for venture capitalist meetings. He wants to advance the species to preserve conciousness. Yes, right, he doesn't want to do it because China is gonna have military basis and by the way, how come nobody's talking about neilder grass Tyson and how he just literally said, oh, we could just leak a memo from China, doesn't even have to be real.

1:06:53 Speaker 1: Mars has read China's read. That's an easy sell. Was that that's the most racist thing I've ever heard.

1:07:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't hear that. I did not hear anything. That's the most.

1:07:04 Speaker 1: Racist fucking thing I've ever fucking heard. But nobody bats an eye, right, he said, He said, and I quote, it doesn't need to be real, implying that, yeah, we could leak something that says China plans to have Mars moon by twenty twenty nine, and then all of a sudden, NASA would be like, all right, time to do our job. Okay, right, that's the only way it happens.

1:07:36 Speaker 2: Apparently apparently. Yeah, in the world o' neil too, at does he show his head to just say something so tone deaf? At least to me, he comes off as so tone death.

1:07:48 Speaker 1: Well once once he got slapped with a little bit of a hashtag of me too. He uh, he did whatever he needed to get out of that. Yeah, and he's a he's a sellout. He is a fucking Sellow. Yeah, and people are.

1:08:02 Speaker 2: Comparing cartoon shows like Mysteries. That was good. I liked him there.

1:08:08 Speaker 1: I used to love Neil deGrasse Tyson. I When he would do a show that would be on Rogan, I would literally drop everything to listen to it because I was, you know, fascinated by the man. People forget that he got his start, you know, him and him and the UAP thing kind of aggravates me because you know, he's famously he's known for his his work in black holes, which when he started working on it were uh, they hadn't been actually confirmed. They they'd never been photographed. They were purely a hypothetical reality, right right.

1:08:50 Speaker 1: It was the the data spoke more for it being real black holes we than not for being that, you know, I mean the counter and he and but he says the thing about the UAP topic is well, there's not there's no evidence. There's you know, there's not there's no clear video, there's no He he always demands more evidence, and it's like, uh, uh, well, you know the testimony that's being given, you know, just at the up hearings, right, the testimony that have been given by uh thousands of credible people. The videos, right, I mean, the the well.

1:09:38 Speaker 1: I like what Mitchell Kaku says is the burden of proof has been so the burden has been shifted to the non believer. Right. We have our evidence to say that there is something to this phenomena. Uh, it's now on the non believer to prove that it's prosaic in nature, all of it. And you know, it just sucks that Neil kind of took this bad turn because he could have been One day we'll see a heel turn from him, and uh, just remember, you know, just remember who he is right now, we'll see it because when it all comes out, he'll be like, yeah, you know I was.

1:10:22 Speaker 1: I said it all along.

1:10:23 Speaker 2: Plenty of interviews with you, Neil. Now it breaks my heart when I hear him speak about it. He just he can be so condescending on the topic, which you know, like you were speaking about man, he came from working with black holes when they were just the abnormality, they were theoretical. You know, you're trying to account for why this is doing the thing. It's doing this part of space and then working from there with unknowns. It's absolutely crazy to know someone that can be had that has free their mind to such speculation like that is so quick to dismiss something that thousands people have seen, talked about, pictures, videos, Yeah.

1:11:04 Speaker 1: And and and you know, we'll move on from that, but it's it really is a shame, uh that you know, he's just he's he's he's essentially a mouthpiece. He's not an act like Gary Nolan will even say it, uh, doctor Gary Nolan, Like Neil isn't a real scientist anymore, right, He's he's, uh, he's more of a personality that then that than a practicing scientist. Bill Nye is not even a real scientist, but he's the science guy. And and and those two are there, they're they're like super outspoken about UFOs and and and how it's a bunch of bullshit and uh.

1:11:45 Speaker 1: And my response to that is like catch up, catch catch up, because you're you're you're fall behind. But you know, it was really fun meeting you at the hearings and I got to hear a little about you, or I got to yah meet you and your girlfriend, your amazing girlfriend, and hear about your story and it resonated with me a bit. So maybe maybe how did you you know how did you get in.

1:12:16 Speaker 2: The topic, Absolutely, dude, I'd say my whole life. You know, I was kind of open minded to the supernatural aspect that may be of thing's right, nothing too concrete, hardcore for my whole life really until two years ago. So I'm twenty three right now. So I was twenty one, and you know, the story comes off as a simple but the impact that left has been profound on me.

1:12:44 Speaker 5: Tyler.

1:12:45 Speaker 2: And it happened right in the town I live in. You know, I was driving home one day with my buddy. I was in the passenger seat, and we were driving down this road. You know, I drive at least two times every day, man, And we're driving down the road and it's probably one am at night somewhere around there, and I'm sitting in the seat and I just happen to look out the window and to my right, above someone's house, maybe thirty feet above their house, is this massive black triangle, and it's it's sitting there, and you know, I'm getting my buddy's attention, so he's looking at it too, and we're not trying to like steer off, but we keep going.

1:13:26 Speaker 2: And I noticed that on each side of the triangle I had, like you know how on a cruise ship it has like the port.

1:13:32 Speaker 1: Lights, yes, the porholes, Yeah.

1:13:34 Speaker 2: The portholes. Yeah, so each side had about I want to say five, but it's so it's so weird. When I try to recount it to it comes off so like hazy in a way, but so clear also.

1:13:45 Speaker 1: But that's common, is it? Yeah?

1:13:49 Speaker 2: Very I'm looking at it, man, and you know, like I said, it's it's big too. It's about the size of the house that it's over. It's about thirty feet above it, and it's just silently hovering there. We drive past it at this point. Now, brother, I got my body out the window and I'm actually like holding onto the car door to look at it behind us, and we get probably a quarter mile on it. When I see it, and I'll never forget this is the part that sent me over the edge. This is the part that actually had me like go frantic to my buddy, like it brought me to tears, Tyler.

1:14:24 Speaker 2: I saw this big black triangle, which I already knew shouldn't exist. There's no way this thing should be flying. It's not making any noise. I saw it like it was shot out.

1:14:33 Speaker 5: Of a gun.

1:14:33 Speaker 2: Dude go right into the sky and I only saw, you know how you see like the motion blurred to something, right, I just saw the motion blur, the white lights go up into the heavens, and just like that, the encounter was over. Probably lasted thirty seconds altogether, but it has instilled such a childlike wonder in me that I really haven't felt, and I was a young kid.

1:14:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, it will do that.

1:15:00 Speaker 2: That was an exciting feeling. Now the tumbling feeling that came after was nothing but fear, NonStop. What did I see? What is the capabilities that thing had? You know? This is this is probably only on all a mile away from my house. So it's like, how often is it around here? How often are they around here? Why was it over someone's house? You know what? What were its intentions in a residential area like this late at night? That started to freak.

1:15:31 Speaker 1: Flying at at very very low altitude.

1:15:37 Speaker 2: Very low altitude. Oh yeah, all together. Let's see if it's like thirty feet above the house, I mean I want to say, like fifty sixty feet all together in the air.

1:15:45 Speaker 1: Yeah it's not it's I mean we're talking treetop level here, yes.

1:15:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking treetop level here.

1:15:50 Speaker 1: And that's around that's about where mine was as well, Yeah, you know, treetop level. And it, like you said, comes over. I mean my just came right over me. Didn't make a noise, but was oscillating and moving forward at the same time. So it was making, you know, circle and then kept you know, was moving forward at a steady pace, just but no noise. And and it had like the three prominent whole what you call portholes. They didn't look like portholes to me, but it's that classic like three circles make a triangle.

1:16:27 Speaker 1: Look, you know, Okay, but the craft was lenticular. The craft itself was lenticular, but it had these three circles on the bottom that made a triangle if you were to draw a triangle to each of them, right, But yours was a black triangle. Now, I will say this about black triangle cases is those are at least, at least in my best judgment or my my best recollection, black triangle cases are the most commonly to be suspected to be human. Right, Like how you say that? So did you feel? Yeah, like, because I know when I saw what I saw, the first thing that came to mind was not from here, Like, this was not us When you saw what you saw?

1:17:24 Speaker 1: What feelings did you have? I know you had fear later, but what was the what was the connection?

1:17:34 Speaker 2: So I have no reason to go off of this. I have no reason to believe this. There's no real variable. Everything I saw that night, that this craft displayed was very uncharacteristic of any sort of human technology that I'm aware of. You know. But when I remember looking at it, and even now, when I sit here and really ponder, I let my gut do the thinking. What did I see that night? Just something strikes me so like, I don't know if I feel like I was being watched by an intelligence, but to me, the only intelligence I know.

1:18:07 Speaker 2: So I felt like I was being watched by humans from that craft. Something about it. It's it's a funky thing, man, because like I said, there's not one variable from the encounter that should give me this notion. But nonetheless, am I gut? I feel as if what I encountered that night was human was some sort of reverse engineer program.

1:18:25 Speaker 1: Interesting, and you're saying this, so someone asked, I put it in there, but this is in Pennsylvania, correct, Yeah.

1:18:33 Speaker 2: This was in central Pennsylvania outside of Harrisburg. The capital is a little community called Linglestown, So that's that's where it happened.

1:18:43 Speaker 1: Now, have you asked around and see or have you taken a look at any of the databases that are available to see if other people saw what you saw?

1:18:55 Speaker 2: From what I've gone through, no one's seen it. And there's a much lesser story that I don't tell nearly as much, because, you know, while the triangle kind of falls under the classification of upfront in my face, the other one that I tell a lot more reluctantly is I saw this orange orb far out in the sky one night. And this was a couple months after the triangle. Funny enough, and I've seen this orange orb outside my house and it was just kind of flickering around, going up and down in the middle of the night, and it kind of it was far away, and you know, it kind of get bright, then it gets dim, then get bright, then get dim and hop around.

1:19:33 Speaker 2: I didn't think much of it, and so I had gotten on read it and I was part of the UFO sub reddit and still am. And funny enough, someone had won a place, oh there or something great people ready to fight.

1:19:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, unless you're posting anything.

1:19:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, unless you're posting anything.

1:19:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, I let their vile.

1:19:58 Speaker 2: I love that come in for the first time and they see the starlink and they post it like.

1:20:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh rip them up crazy. I always cringe. I'm like, oh, you're about to get You.

1:20:12 Speaker 2: Got to let that account and just get a new one, brother, because they won't give you a fighting chance here. But that light I saw, funny enough, someone had been on the UFO suburd and posted pictures of what I'd seen, and so that really encouraged me to like dig deep in UFO encounters around here throughout the years because we also have TMI. I don't know if you ever heard anything about that, the Three Mile Island incident.

1:20:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. Okay, so you know, for everyone else though, I'm glad. I'm glad you said that though, because for everybody else they were thinking too much information.

1:20:49 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I guess so yeah, yeah.

1:20:51 Speaker 1: Remember, yeah, we're not local to you.

1:20:53 Speaker 5: Yeah.

1:20:54 Speaker 2: So that was the Three Mile Island incident. That was a nuclear facility that had a bit of a meltdown. I want to say the seventies. I wanted to start there and try to see if they ever had any recordings or documentation of incidents. And then I moved around to my general area, and there are there are incidents that go back to the sixties at least that I've been able to found. Fine, but nothing triangular, nothing exactly what I saw. There are all various morphologies of the craft and characteristics kind of what you get when you go across the country or even the world and you look at different cases.

1:21:29 Speaker 2: They're a little different but alike to somebody, you know, relatively speaking.

1:21:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, but there is a regional thing like the tic TACs. He's always seen on the west coast, whereas the orbs are always the East coast. Right there are there are like regional but then there are obviously exceptions like it, like there are patterns that you can start to see. But someone brought it up. Did you ever think about knocking on that door of the house house, dude, I'm like, dude, I hate to ask anyone in this house get abducted.

1:22:18 Speaker 2: It freaks me out, Tyler, because I'll I you know, I got to bring you. You're definitely the spokesperson for that kind of stuff, because you know, I live right down the street from this guy. And you know, you might even see my car because I'll spin the block from the residential area where I saw it, just to like tickle that part in my brain to revisit that night again. So like it's even a possibility they see me spin around sometimes just revisiting. So I feel weird asking, but you know, it's it's probably not a bad idea.

1:22:51 Speaker 1: No, no, I mean, if you want answer answers, Yeah, right there, there could be one in that house. Was it stationary over the house for a good period of time.

1:23:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, it never moved from the moment we so we're coming up on it, I see it right outside the windshield.

1:23:09 Speaker 1: Then we're you're positive it's not it's not making any movement.

1:23:13 Speaker 2: Positive positive. I mean I saw the house a silhouette from when it like shot up. It was still over it. By the time i'd gotten the quarter half mile, it was still very much so just like president where it had been. And you know, I know you talked about kind of oscillating and even do that around me. It was just as stagnant as could be, just floating there. It's kind of eerie, like like frozen.

1:23:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that is consistent. I mean, I mean everything you're saying is consistent with other black triangle cases. Right, it's it's it lines up. And and now did you see any I think I asked you this before, but did you see any seams, any rivets, or or or anything that could that could say one way or another. No, aside from the porthole.

1:24:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, aside from the poorhole. I mean, you know you could tell that it was like a black against the sky, but you know, outside the poortholes, it was just total black and like flushing itself seemless.

1:24:20 Speaker 5: Yeah.

1:24:21 Speaker 1: So so that event happened in what year?

1:24:24 Speaker 2: I want to say, twenty twenty two? Yeah, like December twenty twenty two.

1:24:29 Speaker 1: Okay, cool, So you you have this experience and and then what right? Because there I call it the moment of conversion. I spoke to you about this. I think that that night after the hearing, after the moment of conversion, it's like it's it's kind of like your reality gets broken a little bit and you have to like kind of like piece it back together a little and assure yourself that you know you're not going crazy, you know this, and that you know all that kind of So, how is your moment of conversion.

1:25:13 Speaker 2: My moment conversion, I think was probably relatively easier than those of those who see it individually. I had someone, thank God, who saw it with me, and we were kind of able to rehash out the details over and over to each other and just just validate each other because neither of us wanted to believe what we just saw, you know, but there was no denying it. Confirmation came easy through that, and then a passion, a passion picked up right away after like the acceptance.

1:25:45 Speaker 1: And then you find yourself not even two years later,

1:25:52 Speaker 1: historic congressional hearing. So what made you get up and get in the car and drive to DC to see these.

1:26:04 Speaker 2: I wanted to see the fight, Tyler. I wanted. I wanted, like I said, I wanted to be validated outside of the immediate person I saw it with. I wanted to know that. I wanted to see the action taken to bring this thing to right a light because truly, in my heart, in my heart, the effect it leaves on the individual after seeing something so out of this world, so inhuman. I mean, I think every person who's seen one in our government keeps that information. I don't think that's right. I think you have a right to know as an American, as a human, what you saw.

1:26:35 Speaker 2: To whatever capacity we know of the information, I think, I truly think their gatekeeping something way deeper than just technology. I think it plays into what we are fundamentally. So when I went down there, I I just wanted to see the push for that. I wanted to see the legitimate push you know, you see it on the news. But I wanted to go shake hands. I wanted to talk to some of the peace people that fight the good fight. And that's exactly what I got to do, dude, And I was left nothing less than impressed by the efforts of you, by Mace, by Bob, I mean, outstanding workers, outstanding people.

1:27:13 Speaker 2: I got everything I wanted from that.

1:27:16 Speaker 1: How would you say that? How would you say that? The vibe was in line.

1:27:21 Speaker 2: Excited, excited, definitely kind of giddy, kind of like what's going on here? You know, you could tell everyone is kind of at a different point of like what this means to them. I mean I even saw some people with their kids in line, So you know, there's definitely overall excitement, giddiness. Like you know, there's definitely a bit of a novelty to the subject like we're talking about nhis on Capitol Hill. That was always, right, I think king someone's brain like that, right.

1:27:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean you got to see you got to see me from an outside perspective, which I think is funny to think about, right, because I always like to think about, like, all right, this guy, he got to see me be me, and now I get to talk to him. You know, it's it's it's it's different for me because you got to see me like like I was fucking running up and down that hallway that day, back and forth, up and down you were like it was just energy. The energy was just it was through the roof.

1:28:29 Speaker 2: It's my girlfriend. She pointed you out while you're running up and down the hall right, and she's like, you should talk to him, Like he looks like he knows what's going on. I'm like, I think I need like I think I need like a net to catch him.

1:28:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, just like.

1:28:43 Speaker 2: Throw over and get you.

1:28:44 Speaker 5: Dude.

1:28:44 Speaker 2: You were everywhere I thought you worked there. I thought you were trying to I thought you were a staffer just trying to make sure everything was going to plan, like there was room for people others.

1:28:54 Speaker 1: Uh, there was multiple people who thought I was Bob's handler, like that I that I was his representation because they would they were like they would say to me, because I know people don't know that. Uh, Bob's Alice, his wife and I are. We talk on the phone like like we're very close. We become very close. And I'm also very close to other guests that I've had Onke Mario Woods. You know, I get to know these people's families. And that's the difference between me and other hosts of podcasts. I would I would say, is I like take a time.

1:29:30 Speaker 1: I take the time to show that interest and too to further it. So I was given a job by Bob's wife and it was get him in that fucking room. So I did everything that I needed to because I knew I was getting in right like I already had. I still have it hung up right here, the little paper. You can see it, a little part of it, the paper that had my name and show on it. So I a seat reserved for me, right, but Bob didn't. So that's why I went. I stood in line at four am. You know, I hate to throw shade on people like Jesse Michael's but they showed up like twenty minutes before the hearing maybe and uh, you know, it just felt like like do you do you remember when they came in.

1:30:21 Speaker 1: It was like a big deal. It was like that's when like a camera started flooding. Yeah, because that's when James Fox came in. That's when, like I said, Jesse came in. Uh, Danny Sheenk re emerged, Ryan Graves popped up, and it was just that moment was very big. So I was just like, you know, for us that we were there, for all of us, we were all just like like it just you know what I mean, It just was like, why didn't you guys like come for the party, like like you know, because we had we had fun.

1:31:02 Speaker 2: We had fun with yard chairs out there, lawn chairs you know.

1:31:07 Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, they were very serious about that list.

1:31:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know that's something I should have brought up earlier when you asked about the energy and the line. I mean, you had people with four cups of coffee ben here hours in a in a lawn share just kind of like I don't even know if they're gonna like stay awake during the hearing. They're just tired looking. So but you know, just to see people go to that extent like this was a concert, like you know Guns N' Roses last tour concert, people lined up like half awake outside. That was that was amazing to see.

1:31:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really was. It really And and then to watch it unfold, the hearing itself unfold, like there are moments where I was pinching like my leg, you know, because I I feel like I was led down this path And it all started in a very very bleak place, right, you know, on my mother's deathbed, right, But I carried her into that hearing with her ashes they were with me, So I brought her into that hearing room with me. And you know, she's been with me at every big stage, every big step, and it just seems like I just keep and finding myself in the right place at the right time.

1:32:30 Speaker 1: Right, talk to this person, talk to that person, get this person to talk to this person. You know, it's it's it's just been it seems too intelligent. You know, it doesn't seem coincidence. Like I don't believe in it anymore. There's no such thing as coincidence. Me and Bob on the phone talked about what are the millions of things that had to go right to it for me and him to connect so that I could get him into that meeting at that time on that day, which we didn't know that we were both going to be there, you know what I mean until like about a week before.

1:33:13 Speaker 1: It was just like the stars had to really align. I wasn't going right, I wasn't even going to the hearings until Congressman Burchett asked me to go or or brought it up then, because for me, I was just gonna stream it and do what I did for the first one. But when he invited me down, it like it put this spark inside of me and it was like, no, I need to go, but I need to do this, and yeah, slowly over a couple of days, then I bought the ticket, the ticket, uh, the flight in the hotel. Then you know, everything unfolds.

1:33:50 Speaker 1: It folded from there just I don't know it was it was. It was almost like it was too perfect, and uh, it went too perfect. That's why I got sick when I got home.

1:34:04 Speaker 2: Right right, too excited out in the cold. Your body doesn't know what to do. It's just so much in the extreme.

1:34:10 Speaker 1: Yes, I actually have Bob Salice's scarf still I did you. Yeah, I accidentally stole it. Yeah he did, he did, he does, he does. Yeah, So when we go out there, and when we go out there in twenty twenty five, I'll be returning it to him.

1:34:29 Speaker 2: Got to give it back to him.

1:34:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's but anyway, I do want to say thank you, uh for coming on today and being a part of this. I know it wasn't like super orthodox. This is not usually how I do things like this, but I thought it'd be a fun way to kind of unveil this video, uh and also be able to have a discussion as well about the hearings, because I haven't really talked about them, uh since I came back. So I really do appreciate you doing this, Tyler shit, you.

1:35:00 Speaker 2: Just bringing me in, just you know, just someone that just happened to be at that hearing that I had a passion towards it and that was something worth bringing onto your show, to you and giving me, you know, a platform to at least tell my story. And well, you know, now I can I have a platform. I can look at the camera, I can say thank you, Tyler for yielding your time. This is on the record. Thank you, Nancy, Thank you Tim. Thank you, Bob, I mean everyone that pushes for this and will help me get an answer one day.

1:35:31 Speaker 1: That's all.

1:35:31 Speaker 5: I love it.

1:35:32 Speaker 1: That's that's that was quite the quite the response. I appreciate that. And then so you said, you're coming up this way to Massachusetts, Boston area, so I'll probably have you in studio and we'll get to really hash out some of the details of your story. And so we'll get into some real deep conversation about you know, ancient civilization, what you know, you know, could we be a seated uh seeded from an alien intelligence?

1:36:09 Speaker 5: You know?

1:36:10 Speaker 1: Could that be our origin story? Why don't we have our origin story? What do you think our origin story is? And we'll get into all sorts right there. But yeah, all right, man, and I know you just created Twitter. Sorry, you created an X account. I still can't get used to it. Where can people find you? And where can people hang out?

1:36:37 Speaker 2: It is so fresh I have to go ahead and check the handle.

1:36:40 Speaker 5: Right.

1:36:41 Speaker 2: Oh, so God underscore Duke Underscore, that's one hundred Tomson reference.

1:36:50 Speaker 1: Yes, I do like his music.

1:36:53 Speaker 2: Wait no, that's wait.

1:36:56 Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait, yeah, I'm saying there's multiple because now they think there's there's a there's another one.

1:37:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Hunter S. Thompson is how I just said it? That's usually.

1:37:08 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm not confused. Is there a country singer with that name? I don't know.

1:37:17 Speaker 2: We need a Jamie.

1:37:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, we need a young Jamie, young Jamie looking. But yeah, all right, yeah no, so thank you so much.

1:37:28 Speaker 2: You got it boss anytime. Man. I love the topic. I love doing whatever I can for it. Seriously, it can be daunting for me just coming into this. I'm not really sure how to be as productive as possible pushing the agenda here. But you know, whatever groups you can give me to hold on to, dude, I'll hold on to him and for life.

1:37:48 Speaker 1: Well, we'll introduce you to people and uh, like I said, you're gonna be helping me with uh you know, I need help with with like you know, assistance with cameras and all the gear and stuff like that. So you know, we talked about it, uh off the record, so you know, uh, I think people uh should should expect to see more of you.

1:38:10 Speaker 2: So awesome, brother man.

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