The Thiaoouba Prophecy: Samuel Chong- "ABDUCTION TO THE 9TH PLANET"

0:12 Speaker 1: Welcome back to total disclosure across all platforms, where we explore the mysteries of the unknown, from sightings to conspiracy theories. We dive deep into the unexplained currences in our skies and on the ground. If you're passionate about extraterrestrial life, if you're passionate about the paranormal conspiracies cover ups all that, then you're in the right place. Don't forget. If you're watching on YouTube, smash that like button, share the show and subscribe to ring that notification bel so youth the updates rather for all live videos and stuff going forward.

0:48 Speaker 1: Also, if you're listening on Apple or Spotify, leave us a review. It truly helps us get to a wider algorithm. Now, say the guests and I we just recorded, well, didn't record about forty five minutes of probably the best conversation that I've ever had, and I am literally just boggled right now. Crucial error. I'm gonna bring my guest, one of my favorite people in the world, Samuel Jong. Conversion of the Theba Prophecy of the Golden Planet, written originally by Michel de Marque. It's a true report of the author who was physically abducted to another planet, and it goes into this prophecy.

1:36 Speaker 1: And you've been on the show plenty of times before, I think maybe even the second most appearances aside from Steve Masmit.

1:48 Speaker 2: Thank you this compliment.

1:50 Speaker 1: Yes, So, I mean we just had a We just had an amazing conversation. I feel so terrible right now. I don't want to dwell on it too much, but I do want to kind of restart it. So I want to talk to you about what is going on right now. There is a lot of talk about the James Web Space Telescope and how it potentially found a craft or or something that is course corrected and it's headed to Earth. They've also found a potential world with city lights and a certain chemical that only happens. The only way we know it happens is by life, and you know, uh, by life being on a planet.

2:46 Speaker 1: This chemical is produced and is in the atmosphere. So the the uber prophecy, it talks about all kinds of extraterrestrials. What are we dealing with right now? Do you think that something is headed this way?

3:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, we are dealing with a secrets kept by the government and by a lot of industries. In the book, it really unveils the secrets kept by different people who have an agenda. It talks about the different ets on different planets. When Michel the Murkay was taken by this group of ets to their planet, he was shown at least one hundred and forty seven different species or races of eeds on different planets. We are definitely not alone in the universe or on Earth. We do have companions and people who live on different planets of different categories.

3:42 Speaker 2: It's important to know that we exist on Earth to live a spiritual life, as indicated by the book, deal about prophecy, and now to really dwell on the materialistic aspect of our lives. And the book really unveils a lot of secrets kept by different government agencies, including the fact that there's a et basis on the fartart of the Moon, and there was life on Mars one million years ago or so. And the book also unveils a lot of the modern technologies that were later proven by credible institutions or universities or colleges.

4:21 Speaker 2: So I think this book really is something that people should look into and to learn from it.

4:28 Speaker 1: I absolutely agree. So I want to start by talking about factionalism. Uh, there seems to be, you know, a lot going on in the world right now. I think we can both admit that the human race right now we are in a pivotal, pivotal moment, and you know, the next year, the next two years, who knows. I think. I think we're at a moment where we're about to decide our future in which path we take. Could you agree with that?

5:08 Speaker 2: I definitely agree. This is why Michelle Demarkay was told to write this book. This is very similar to the Book of Enoch that was written by people who knew about what happened to Enoch. And we are living in the era of Noah. Using a metaphor analogy, we are also living in the era of Southern go Mora. So it really depends on what kind of path we truse in the future. We could be like people on the ship built by Noah, the Arc of Noah, but we can also be like people in the Two Cities Southern Gomorra.

5:44 Speaker 2: It's really up to us which path we truse. We are really at a critical moment of time in human history, not just in US history, but human history.

5:54 Speaker 1: Right right, And and I you know the I don't you and I right? We look very different. We we look very different. We're from you know, our ancestors spoke different languages. It reminds me of the Tower of Babel, and I often wonder, you know, was it God that struck us down? Or was it humans that wanted power? Uh that struck us down? And because you know, we we we look back and you know, we our ancestors spoke different languages. We we we look at the planet and we draw these imaginary lines, these borders, uh, different languages, different dialects, you know, all of it.

6:44 Speaker 1: It keeps us separated. So what does the Theoba prophecy say about that? And and those kind of how how does the human race come together as one?

6:57 Speaker 2: We were all created by the same creator. So when God or the Creator created every one of us, it is inserted a tiny portion of itself to each one of us. So we are all creations by God, and we lived in the world to really experience because God, the Creator is a pure spirit and it wants to experience what we experience in life, the happiness, the sorrows, and everything that we do. And we send positive feedback to the Creator throughout higher self. And we do see that the world is becoming increasingly divided because there's a group of people who has a different agenda.

7:36 Speaker 2: They want more power, more control, and by dividing us, they can can divide and conquer. This is actually their motile. I would say some of the secret societies have this kind of agenda in their mind. If you're speaking about the Tower of Bubble, I would want to mention my friend in the Bay Area who was able to levitate when he was young, when he was pratiging the practicing the energy work of chievum, but after he came to the US, focusing more on how to make a living, he lost the ability to levitate.

8:10 Speaker 2: And this is a true story. And I believe that people in the past were very spiritual and so they were able to communicate with each other through telepathy. But as stys go on, they were more focused on the materialistic aspect of their lives, so they lost the ability to communicate through telepathy. If you do some research, if you search the ancient tribes in Brazil or the Native America and Native tribes in Brazil, you're going to find evidence of telepathy, the ability to communicate through telepathy in some of their tribes and people in Africa, like in ancient times, according to the book Dealoba Prophecy, they were able to levitate.

8:53 Speaker 2: But as we all know, there were several great recess in human history in the ancient civilizations, we lost the ability.

9:02 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is, you know, it kind of is a catch twenty two if you look at it, because the more we progress with technology, you know, the phones, the computers, So the more we rely on technology, the less out of touch with our spirituality we get. And you can kind of see this with an example, like you just used the person who lost the ability to to levitate. Like I used to be able to remember everybody, every single one of my friend's phone numbers, for instance, right by heart. I'd be able to pick up the phone dial exactly Brandon call.

9:53 Speaker 1: Or you know, my mom and dad drove around without GPS's but now I can't remember God damn, I can't remember my own phone number sometimes, let alone someone else's. Uh, And without GPS, I don't even know where I'd be going half the time or at all. So it seems like it's a catch twenty two. So how how do we how do we balance the two.

10:20 Speaker 2: Yes, the ets with far more advanced technologies are warning us to be careful of the progress of technological technological development because that will lead us to a more confined materialistic world. But we can also use technology to improve our spirituality. And though this is why I've been trying to develop the aura camera that is more efficient and better than the one on the market, Because when we are able to see the energy fields of a person, or the auras or the colors of the areas of a person, you're able to tell whether that person is lying or not, whether that person is sincere.

11:01 Speaker 2: But that person is going to have certain diseases down the road in the future, Yeah, because the colors manifest before physical symptoms occur.

11:11 Speaker 1: How so there are cameras on the market that do that.

11:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, there are aura cameras on the market that.

11:19 Speaker 1: Do so how would you how are you doing that? How would how would that even be able to be captured?

11:28 Speaker 2: So if people do some research about curly and photography, they're able to realize that there are energy feels of human body, and then through certain kind of technology, they're able to manifest different colors of that energy fields, and people some people have the innate ability or natural ability to see the colors of auras, people like Barbara Brennan, a former Nazi scientists, people like Judist Collings, people like Russelin Brewery and some of the other or readers who can just see tell like whether a person is lying in front of the audience or people even in movies or in films, they can see the auras.

12:15 Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, okay, okay, So that's that's I'd be very interested to see a camera like that and be able to to to try to use it in some sort of way, So that'd be interesting. Uh, well, we'll have to talk about that. So what do you think now the Theuba Prophecy, There's so much that's going on in it. One of the themes is reincarnation religion. Now the Bible, the Bible that people know today, reincarnation is not in it. But in the Theuba Prophecy, incarnation is absolutely tied to things like Jesus Christ and just just the world.

13:08 Speaker 1: That's how it goes. So can you expand upon that and what it means to be religious for spiritual.

13:19 Speaker 2: Yes, we do have different reincarnations in different lifetimes and there are different religions that believe you incarnation, but not the Christian religion. The book Silba Prophecy explains why Jesus or Christ died on the cross and then resurrected three days after he did that, just to show people at the time that there's life after death and there's reincarnation. But for some reason, the concept of incarnation was later removed by the Catholic Church council meetings. The book is so so very specific.

13:53 Speaker 2: He named the four different Catholic Church council meetings that intentionally distorted the origin meanings of the ancient scriptures in the Bible. So what happened was that we are the creations of the Creator and we are here to experience different challenges in life. When we die, we give up the physical body. Our afterbody goes into a higher self, and then there's a life reveal process. We would reveal everything we did in our lifetime, and we would be able to feel how others felt when did certain things on to others.

14:28 Speaker 2: For example, if I hit a person, I would be able to feel the pain suffered by the other person. It's like a holographic film replaying everything we did in our lifetime and then we would evaluate how we did ourselves. We would need to we would know how we need to focus more or what we need to learn the spiritual lessons in our next lifetime. Then when time comes, we are going to be shown different options in the next lifetimes. We would side which family to be born into, which spiritual lessons to learn, and which partner we are going to have in lifetime.

15:08 Speaker 2: Things goes on. So it really doesn't matter whether you are the richest person in the world such as the Ela Musk, Jeff Bezels or Bill Gates, or we're in Buffett or if you're a bigger on the street, we are the same. We only need to learn spiritual lessons, and different spiritual lessons are learned depending on the roles that you play in life. So according to the book, we are just like different positions on will. What goes up has to come down. We all need to experience different lifetimes in different worlds.

15:43 Speaker 1: Right, And so I want to touch on I have a couple of things I want to touch on. You talked about these families. Now, who are these families that are controlled or not? Who are they? But are you saying that there are It's not it's a global initiative of certain individuals that are manipulating the rest of the world as they see fit.

16:19 Speaker 2: Yes, in the US, especially this year, people are looking at the elections, they're looking at the Republicans versus Democrats. But what they don't know is that there's a group of people running everything behind the scenes. Both parties are under payroll, So they're this kind of hidden hand manipulating everything that goes down in the world. They're multinational, they're transnational in their mind. Nations or countries don't exist.

16:48 Speaker 1: They only power and greed exist exactly. And money, of course, yes, and.

16:54 Speaker 2: They have the ability to control billions of dollars and hundreds of billions of dollars. In fact, my friend in the Bay Area, who was able to who was able to levitate, had an encounter in twenty ten in Hong Kong, meeting a person who told him about how the financial system works, or how the financial structure worked, how the central banks were controlled. And he didn't believe any of this. So that mysterious person in Hong Kong took him to the VIP service of HSBC and then you seeing my friend's passport, he opened account U see my friend's name and transferred five billion US dollars into his bank account right at that moment.

17:40 Speaker 2: My friend was shocked.

17:43 Speaker 1: So this is just, this is just all of this is a stage. It's it's it's all, it's manufactured.

17:58 Speaker 2: Yes, we did.

17:59 Speaker 1: He must acted and busy exactly and not not growing spiritually. Sorry to interrupt you, I'm very very sorry, But so do you think their goal is to keep us away from spirituality? Because I mean, we know that people like Robert Bigelow have done contests like you know that the contest that Jeffrey misch Love won it's right here, the Life after Death essay, which actually I mean Jeffries. Jeffries' essay is very similar to what is talked about in the Theuba prophecy, and that was he won the first prize of five hundred thousand dollars an essays called Beyond the Brain the Survival of Human Consciousness after permanent bodily death.

18:53 Speaker 1: Now that's talked about very very in high detail in this book exactly.

19:02 Speaker 2: And Jeffrey Mitchelv is a very good friend of mine. He has a PhD degree. But this book sealed a prophecy that talks about Reincarnation and Life After Dea was written by an author, a landscaper farmer in Australia who didn't know how to use a computer.

19:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't have access to the internet. And deep conversations like these to you know, or any educational background, it makes no sense how someone like that. And by the way, there's not just these deep concepts, but there's deep or deep concepts, but there's also mathematical and scientific theories presented in the book. Yeah, I mean, can you expand upon that?

19:47 Speaker 2: Yes, the book contains a lot of specific, verifiable facts that can be proven scientifically. For example, then Michelle Demarcay entered into their spacecraft, they this effect infected him using yellow light and blue light, and years later Harvard Medical School had a paper documenting the anti bacterory effect of blue light. And also just recently a few years ago, there was also another paper written by scholars documenting the anti bacterory effect of yellow light. So this is far ahead of its time, yes, And it discloses about the et basis and farther the moon and also the life on Mars that occurred at one point three million circle.

20:33 Speaker 2: And also it talks about a lot of things that we are able to discover years after. The book was published in nineteen eighty three, so this book was published before the age of the Internet. But it also talks about the facts that we were able to prove years.

20:50 Speaker 1: After, right, right, many years after, So I wanted to So it seems to me, it seems to me that that the Vatican is essentially the first intelligence agency. It's the it's the first, it's the first intelligence, intelligence gathering operation and potential start of the cover up, the manipulation of the narrative in favor of greed and power. So you know, Christ is is because because in this conversation, you know, you're going to be talking about going away from organized religion but going towards spirituality.

21:41 Speaker 1: But the the the listener is going to ask, why then are we talking about Jesus Christ.

21:49 Speaker 2: Because the Jesus Christ where the people sent better ets to help us to learn about the importance of being spiritual, and they in fact had been helping us throughout history, has documented in the Bible. In fact, the distraction of southern Gomorra was done by then because the people in the two cities were so evil and they were respontable for the birth of Jesus by putting the embryo into the uters a virgin Mary, just to show people that someone extraordinary was going to be born this way. But when a person is born into the embryo, he would have to pass through what the ancient Acas would call the river of oblivion forgetting all the knowledge to perform miracles.

22:39 Speaker 2: So this is why the young Jesus, being born from an embryo, he couldn't perform miracles. So this is why when you read the Bible, you don't see Jesus performing any miracles. Before he began preaching, even though he was highly spiritual, having a very profound conversation with the teachers of the temple, he went to India. This is why some people say that Jesus went to India. Yes, indeed, he did go to India, traveled through China and died in Japan. So this is why if you look at the internet, you were able to find the tomb of Jesus in Shingo Village, Japan.

23:15 Speaker 2: This is the picture. Yes, and Christ, on the other hand, was being sent by the Ets from Theoba or Jova to come to Earth to perform miracles so that his teachings would be believed by the people at the time, because people in the past as well as people nowadays, they're highly skeptical. They wouldn't just believe any teachings of just anyone. Someone would have to perform miracles in order for his teachings to be believed. So Christ preached about love and spirituality, and he died on the cross and then resurrected three days after just to show people that there's life after death and their reincarnation.

23:57 Speaker 2: So this is the connection between Jesus Christ and also people from field them. In fact, we should follow the teachings of Christ, but not be religious, not to follow a specific organist religion. You're mute, You're you're a mute.

24:31 Speaker 1: So yeah, we see, we see that. Even the shroud of Turin was just tested again and uh they dated it back, uh saying it exactly matches up with that timeframe. And I mean the shroud literally shows that, I mean some sort of gamma radiation took place or that was that's the only thing that would allow for the print to to to be there. So this, this character of Jesus who preaches love, love, it seems, is the only thing that transcends time. And space and you know abduction, abductees,

25:19 Speaker 1: other other people in uphology. Uh they always say that, uh, these beings are taking us and warning us of technology, warning us about uh uh progressing down the wrong path and potentially annihilating ourselves. Uh. What what do you think that the uber Prophecy brings to that world? What do you think it is trying to tell the world.

25:50 Speaker 2: It's trying to tell us we need to change now, otherwise we're going to be heading catastrophe. It listed the four real dangers on Earth, number one being money, number two politicians, number three, journalists and drugs. Number four religions. Is telling us to be seekers of knowledge, to have the knowledge kept by the government, by the secret societies or by people who have specific agendas, and to empower ourselves and look inside for answers because we are connected to God, the Creator through a higher self, and not to be slaves of the multi corporations.

26:34 Speaker 1: Right. And you know something we talked about in the previous non recorded version was that it's it's like these families are playing the Wizard of Oz and they want us to be They want us to be uh distracted, They want us to be pitted against each other, uh, because to go towards organized religion and to not be spiritual, because when you become spiritual and and you know, you you look at the Earth, you kind of get that observer effect, right, that astronauts get when they look back on the Earth.

27:21 Speaker 1: It's that that feeling of Wow, there's no borders, right, We're all in this together. And that's what happens when you look inside as well, or when you're in Maine or some remote place and you look up and you're able to see all the stars after living in the city for many years and not seeing the Milky Way galaxy for what it really looks like. You know, those are those profound moments that we have. And to go back to the James Webb telescope, like, if I was a government and there was something on its way, I would try to find life far away first and usher in a new reality.

28:04 Speaker 1: And I would start that by the slow breadcrumbs, right, fine life one hundreds, one hundred and twenty five, you know, light years away, and then slowly it would get closer and you know, then, oh, there was ancient life on Mars. Then it would get a little bit more personal. We actually came from Mars. You know, we were the people who escaped Mars, and they would they would try to bring this narrative upon us and give us an explanation to our origin that is not true, so right and the big deception.

28:47 Speaker 1: So they want us to be more materialistic and that the Yuba prophecy goes into so many aspects. For a farmer in nineteen nineties to be to be talking about this, it just makes me believe that he went to this planet.

29:06 Speaker 2: And more importantly, the book unveils the secret kept by a lot of the different people. It talks about where we all came from originally. Indeed, we came from different planets, like the Blacks and the Eelos came from a planet called Bakratini, and the Tipedans came from Mars, and the Caucasians came from a different planet. The Hebrews came from a planet of a different category. So this is why the Hebrews were the chosen people as said in the Bible. So if people are interested, they should get a book and to look into the details of what really happened in the past is really amazing and eye opening.

29:46 Speaker 1: Why did why did Jesus die on the Cross.

29:51 Speaker 2: Because when Christ died on the Cross, that was meant to show people that he was going to resurrect three days after and there's life after death. Oh oh yea.

30:06 Speaker 1: So it was meant to show reincarnation exactly. So okay, and and that okay, so and that's what I meant. So abductees people in upology, a big topically has been uh so like like the sole contract that we make, you know, where we choose our our place, we choose our circumstances. Uh and we basically you know, go through like a life review. Near death experiencers talk about this as well. This is also all in the Deuber prophecy.

30:46 Speaker 2: Yes exactly, Michelle de Burkay. The author was taken to his past lives, his past eighty lives, and to see who he was in each of his lifetimes. A few times he was a beggar on street. Once he was a German miner who accidentally killed his wife, leaving many children behind him. Once he was a queen on in a different planet. And once he was a gholstmith in Japan, a water carrier in India, so he was a he played different roles in his past lives. So this is why I mentioned that the different past life or just like different positions on will, what goes up has to come down.

31:28 Speaker 2: So we have to learn different spiritual lessons by playing different roles in each of our lifetime. So it really doesn't matter whether you're the richest person in the world or just a background street or even a prisoner in a jail or in prison. So it really doesn't matter. We have different spiritual lessons to learn. The most important thing is how we respond to life challenges. That's the key of life. We are spiritual beings, having a physical experience. How we respond to different situations is the key to learning spiritual lessons, right.

32:06 Speaker 1: And you see that, like I said, love is is it seems to be the anti anti evil love, right, It's not. It's not good because it's love. It's you know, because nothing, nothing can break that that bond. Uh, it's the only thing that transcends time, space, Uh, the distance whatever, it transcends all of that. And you know, we talk about this proverbial you know, does does if a tree falls in the woods, does anyone hear it? Well, some people argue that there has to be an observer for the tree to even exist.

32:58 Speaker 1: Uh, you talk and the deuber prophecy talks about the creator of the universe. So I've asked myself, you know, you know, we look at the double slid experiment and how photons act differently well observed and not observed. But the universe would have to have an observer itself. So would it be this spiritual being, the spiritual creator.

33:24 Speaker 2: Yes, it will be the spirit the creator of the universe. Because we are currently living on a category of one planet, but we can progress and move up the letter to a category nine or join and rejoin the great Ether, the Creator. And it's very important to know that being a lower category of planet doesn't mean that we are failing. It just means we're learning the basic lessons in life like elementary school students and the Theubans are inhabitants of category nine planet, so they're just like college professors guiding us and mentoring us.

34:04 Speaker 2: They have better knowledge, so they're able to levitate, they're able to heal all the diseases, and they're able to materialize objects, perform all the miracles that's performed by Christ. So they're able to do anything that we can imagine. They can communicate through telepathy. But they're not God itself. They are just the physical beings just like us. But there's a creator, which is a pure spirit, which is watching us and also absorbing the positive experiences that we experience in our lifetime.

34:42 Speaker 2: So it's important to be positive and to follow the teachings of Christ in order to move up the letter faster.

34:51 Speaker 1: Right, I believe in the prophecy. In the deeper prophecy, it says that this spiritual creator left the piece of itself.

34:59 Speaker 2: In all of us us, Yes, exactly.

35:02 Speaker 1: So would that be our soul? And and or is our soul something different? Is consciousness something different?

35:13 Speaker 2: That is what the people would call our soul. But the more specific explanation is giving the book thelout prophecy. We have our physical body, we also have we also have our aster body, and seven or eight different other bodies metaphysical.

35:31 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, right, uh. And I find that to be That would explain like it would explain why some people see ghosts. It would explain why some people are you know, or our mediums, or can channel other beings. It would explain a lot of those things. And I think, like you said, I think our ancestors and people that came before, were more in touch. We look at the we look at the Great Pyramids, and we're like, how do they build those? Well, what if technology wasn't what we think it is today as it was to them.

36:12 Speaker 1: What if technology to them was something different. It was being able to manipulate the world around you without the use of anything that was metal. Right. That's why I don't find any evidence of it, because it was all these things that they were able to do through their body.

36:29 Speaker 2: Yes, they had the ability. People in the past had the ability to do a lot of things that we cannot imagine. They could perform magic that we can imagine, like some of the members of the Secret Societies can do. And they had the technology of uh Antich gravity, so they were able to lift the huge stones up to the middle of the air using a different vibration that can neutralize gravity. And this us how they feel the Great Pyramid of Egypt with.

37:02 Speaker 1: Sound right, sound to yes, sound, frequency and vibration yes, so and and and again. I think that is becoming more and more people are opening up to that idea as well now, and we're seeing you know, people talk about this and and papers you know being written about it. So about how sound could potentially be used sound vibration and what we just talked about. So the ancients like, it seems we've lost something that our ancestors had. And could these stories of Jesus Christ or you know Merlin, uh, you know King Arthur, like, could they could these legends be more based in reality than we think.

38:01 Speaker 2: There was Jesus and Christ in the past, and there were historical events that really happened. But we also have to keep in mind that there are two great resets in the human history on Earth in which great civilizations were lost. The first great reset was one point three two million years ago when an arid hit Earth has sided into three parts. The first part, according to the book, hit was now today's the Red Sea area, and the second part hit what was now today's is Timer area, and the third part was hit what was now today's the Galapagas Islands area.

38:41 Speaker 2: So that's the first great rest. All the civilizations were lost and people began became carnivals, eating each other, and it's a very sad story. And then there's a group of people who came from a different planet and landed on a continent that existed in the Pacific ocean called the li Muria, and also there was another continent called the Atlantis and established a great civil edition over there. But the content about the Muria sunk into the ocean about the fourteen thousand five years ago. So that's another great reset.

39:15 Speaker 2: So we have to know that we had a great civil edition that's earth.

39:23 Speaker 1: So so how many years ago was that last one?

39:26 Speaker 2: Fourteen thousand five years ago?

39:29 Speaker 1: So would that would that line up with the younger dryest period?

39:34 Speaker 2: Yeah?

39:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, So okay, so that you know, Graham Hancock talks about this, and uh, there was there's you know, we see in a lot of organized religion that when when this flood happened, this great reset, that there was always uh someone who came and re taught civilization, uh like que se Quattle uh in this in South America. So you know, it's it's just striking that, like I said, uh, Michelle de Marque, a farmer before the Internet age, is talking about all this stuff and these deep, deep concepts philosophically, Uh, I mean the implications are just the ramifications are tremendous.

40:29 Speaker 1: So I mean, what is your goal with the Deuba prophecy? You know, what is the current relevance in light of you know, recent global events, you know, such as climate crisis and technological advancements.

40:46 Speaker 2: To change the future for the better, because the past is fixed, but the future is changeable depending on our collective consciousness. We have to act in a very concerted fashion, using non violent resistance to against the tyrannies in the world. And it really requires a lot of efforts, international effort, so that people can have the knowledge kept by the government, by the people who have agendas, so that we can really look inside for answers and act in a collective fashion against the monte corporations and the international corporations.

41:25 Speaker 2: And I think that's my goal in the future.

41:29 Speaker 1: Right, you said you were going to Germany.

41:36 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm going to Germany in October to meet with people who were associated with the secret society what some people would call the Iluminati.

41:48 Speaker 1: Oh well, like yeah, well after again, we'll probably keep that part of air. But I'd love to talk to you about that. And you know it. So the fundamentals, it seems that we as a human species need to find balance, and we need to find a way forward that is peaceful and is loving and and but I look around and I see all these all this tension. So you know, how how how do we bridge the gap?

42:30 Speaker 2: It requires knowledge, knowledge of the secrets kept. We should follow the teachings of Christ, which is to love, to forgive, to be humble, to relate God on our own, to be seekers of knowledge, and to grow spiritually. And we should really follow the teachings of Christ and to make a fulfilling life, and and also to tell each other the meaning of life, and to how to respond to the challenges that we face in our lifetime. And I know that the most important thing is to look inside for answers, for the Kingdom of God is within you right right.

43:13 Speaker 1: And and the book what I love about this I really do. And what I love about this book is again it So the book attempts to analyze the universe from a metaphysical perspective. How do you believe this perspective can can contribute to our understanding of our place in the universe, especially in light of recent discoveries that in s place exploration. And you know what we talked about potential. You know now that James Webb telescope, something may be coming this way. It's course corrected. We're being told that Congress is being briefed about it.

43:56 Speaker 1: So, you know, how do we analyze the universe from a metaph physical perspective?

44:03 Speaker 2: I think the universe is one and everything is created by the pure spirit, and we are all connected spiritually, So it really doesn't matter if you're a Caucasian or Black, or Hebrew or Jewish person. It really doesn't matter. It's just that we are all the same. We all have this spirit of God or sparklings of divinity. So we are one family and we need to coexist peacefully. And the wars created in the world are actually the result of the military industrial complex or a small group of people who really need to serve their shareholders.

44:47 Speaker 2: You know, if they are no wars, they don't sell arms.

44:51 Speaker 1: Right, And isn't it weird how like guys pay attention. Isn't it weird how the same people people that have the contracts to blow the places up also somehow bid and win the contract to clean it up when it's done. Do you think they have an incentive? I mean, it's it's so clear that we are being manipulated, like sam and the think of a prophecy goes into a lot of this and in this in this illusion that we that that that seems to be being uh, the wool over our eyes.

45:33 Speaker 2: Exactly. So I translated a different book called three hundred and thirty four Lives written by the former heighst Thegreature of the Illuminati, And when you read the book, you're gonna see the attitude of the author. When he was a chairman of the Illuminati, he really looked down on the people, saying that the people are ignorant, they don't look what's happening around them. So, being this share of the secret society, he had the ability or psychic powers to know what happened in the past and what's likely going to have in the future.

46:16 Speaker 2: But he also disclosed what they feared most. The most they fear the disclosure the power of the public, indicating that no matter how strong their psychic powers are, they are afraid of the power of the collective consciousness. So this is why I've been trying to promote the messages in the two books Few a Prophecy and two hundred and thirty four Lives, in order to wake people up so that people can have the knowledge and to make the right decisions in the future, so that a better future.

46:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, not just not not to make the right decisions because you know it'll get you gain or you'll gain from it, but to make the right decision because it's the right decision right now. Unconditionally, we need to change because we cannot live in a world that teeters on something that's acronym mad mutually assured destruction. How can we as a as a human society call ourselves advanced when the only thing that's hanging between us in a nuclear apocalypse is one miscalculation? How? How? And and and that threat I think keeps a lot of people up at night.

47:47 Speaker 1: I mean we Joe Rogan talks about it, how the threat of nuclear arm again and keeps them up at night. Uh, what are your thoughts on it? And how is this book? You know it informed you on the future of the human race?

48:08 Speaker 2: Well, the book is titled the Theoba Prophecy. It actually says that if it don't change now, we're going to be heading catastrophe in the future. So this is why they took michell Mark to their planet, instructing him to write a book to warn us the real dangers on Earth so that we can make the right decisions and make the change. At this critical moment of time in human history, not just the history of the US or China or Japan, the history of mankind. So we have to really have the knowledge to empower us, because knowledge is power.

48:48 Speaker 2: So what we need to do is to really get a book and read about it, and read about the secrets kept by the government or the secret societies, and to empowers us through knowledge and to have this kind of collective action using non violent resistance, and to have a strike or maybe just use some kind of other methods to rest up against tyrannies of the world.

49:18 Speaker 1: I've kind of said that better myself. I really couldn't. So, you know what, when are there? I think people I want to know, was are there good and bad?

49:40 Speaker 3: Uh?

49:40 Speaker 1: Extraterrestrial civilizations? Because it seems that uh, this this group or or these families that you speak of. We hear a lot about how people don't want to look for ET or don't want to dabble in it because they think it's where we're where we're gonna let the demons out of the box.

50:04 Speaker 3: Uh.

50:04 Speaker 1: And then and they do it for literally fundamental religious reasons. They hold us back from advancement because they're afraid of Uh, angels and demons uh. And you know what do you have to say that?

50:23 Speaker 2: Well, I would say they're developed ET civilizations and less developed ET civilizations, and unfortunately people on Earth belong to the latter. We are not as developed spiritually as we would think that are. And when the chelt Marque communicated with the ets from Theoba, he was told that, you know, if we try to go on the Moon again, we would be prevented because we are not ready spiritually, because we would other planets. So this is why fifty years ago we went to the Moon, but we have never gone back, even though the cost is much lower.

51:09 Speaker 2: Because if you think about this, if you see two groups of gorillas in a zoo fighting against each other, would you really want to invite them to your beautiful mention and make a mess. You wouldn't because they're still fighting against themselves. We are having so many wars on Earth right now. Are we ready to explore the universe?

51:31 Speaker 1: So we are not, because Elon Musk says yes, So what's gonna happen when we try to bring So do you think that do you think that we were told not to come back to the moon.

51:47 Speaker 2: Yes, we were told, Yes, we were warned off from the Moon. And actually, you know similarly, that's crazy.

51:56 Speaker 1: I again, I'm so sorry I'm interrupting you. But it's like a synchronicity because the thing I was watching right before this was uh, like about moon bases and stuff like that. So uh and and and it was showing evidence that Lance and Buzz basically had said and multiple times story missions like they're they're parked on the creator watching us, right, like they're literally just watching us. So and then there's you know, obviously the images of the structures and all this other stuff on the Moon that that, I mean, the evidence adds up and you're like, ah, there's something on the moon.

52:44 Speaker 1: So you think we were literally told like listen, you can't come back here.

52:50 Speaker 2: I'm cut, you're ready, and we are.

52:54 Speaker 1: So what would happen?

52:56 Speaker 2: They would prevent us from going to the Moon again, they would cause any failures or something like that. And actually, by the same token, they would prevent other less developed ety civilizationions from coming to Earth and to contaminate us. So this is why it goes.

53:18 Speaker 1: So it's a guardian. It's a guardian. It's like a parent, you know, exactly, So are they are there. They're not responsible for us exactly, but they do. They see us as you know, they're they're duty to protect us.

53:41 Speaker 2: They're guiding us and mentoring us directly, uh indirectly. They did several times in the Fast in the past by directly intervening our actions and causing certain events to happen. But right now they're watching us and trying to giving us an environment for us to grow ourselves. I'll give you an example. If you're a very good parent trying to teach your son a mathematical problem, you would guide your son, guide him and to solve the problem on his own. You wouldn't just give the answer to him directly, otherwise he wouldn't have learned anything.

54:20 Speaker 2: And similarly, I'll give you another story. A biologist went to Mexico and solve this very rare species of the butterfly trying to come out of the cocoon, struggling, trying to come out. Being a very compassionate person, he opened the cocoon up so the butterfly came out. But there's just one thing. The butterfly couldn't fly. In fact, the butterfly had to go through the struggling process itself in order to be able to fly. Similarly, we people on Earth have to go through the struggling process of our own.

54:55 Speaker 2: You do survive for the long term on Earth.

54:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, that butterfly, that that comparison, that is such a I mean that that almost take take. That took me back a little bit, because you're right. Without the struggle, that they don't gain the strength to be able to fly because they didn't have to claw their way. And so it's the struggle is part of the experience, it's part of the development. So I mean, when when do they intervene? Because it seems we're we're I mean, God forbid, and I say that with all intent, God forbid. China invades Taiwan and we have a third conflict.

55:55 Speaker 1: We are in real danger. So it looks like we're headed down a weird path. You know, how has this book changed your outlook on the geo political sphere right now and the tensions that a rising.

56:16 Speaker 2: Well, it actually changed my life because I learned about the secret kept by the ets in the book. In the PostScript of the book, it says they're far more incredible things that the author was not allowed to write about because peop were far from understanding them. So this is the reason I went on trip to Vietnam to meet the author, hoping that he could tell me that one secret he wasn't allowed to write in a book. So back in twenty sixteen, I spent two thousand dollars of my own Being a very frugal person, two thousand dollars was a lot to me, and I flew to Vietnam without knowing his exact address.

56:54 Speaker 2: I grabbed a picture on the Internet showing his bungalow and I showed that sure that I printed out to the local taxi driver after I landed in the airport and asking him to take me there, and he took me right to the location after the second try. And so I established a very good relationship with the author and he told me that one thing he couldn't write in a book. And I actually it changed my life, giving me the power and energy to promote the messages in the book, because seriously, we are, you know, very dangerous mode right now.

57:35 Speaker 2: We have to change how we live. We have to change the decisions that we were going to make in the future so that we are going to have a better future in the future. And I think it's important for people to empower themselves this knowledge and so that they can make the right decisions in the future.

57:55 Speaker 1: So what you're saying and insummation, there is this group of people and we all know it, like we all know that, you know, people are more concerned with what Kim Kardashian is wearing to the met gala than if a UFO were to drop down and be seen in clear daylight. Like I truly am convinced that that would be in and out of the news. I'm convinced that it wouldn't even phase people. Things like the Brookings report told told the higher ups that disclosure would cause chaos. Do you think that that would be true?

58:51 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think the disclosure of ets or aliens would cause chaos because most people are ready for the message. But I would think that the people need to have the need to know of more things that the government doesn't want us to know. And I think the book Theoba Prophecy contains the secrets kept. But this group of people, and I don't think it's going to cause chaos. And actually people become liberated and the people who were going to commit suicide change their minds after reading the book and have more inspirational life in the future.

59:31 Speaker 2: So I think this book is a lifesaver and it's actually the most important book that ever found in my entire life.

59:42 Speaker 2: You're on mute.

59:45 Speaker 1: Do you think that you had to go on that struggle to find him? Just like the butterfly at the struggle and you know, like you said, it is two dollar there's a lot of money to just spend and not know if you're gonna get what you need. That struggle for you, it's almost like the butterfly. Do you think that you were almost selected to carry on the message after the author left this plane of existence.

1:00:23 Speaker 2: I think they probably chose me because I also speak Chinese and Spanish, so they know that it's going to be like a more international effort that we have to make, not just the movement in the US, but the global movement. And this is what I've been trying to do, to pass the messages to the people in the circle and outside of the circle. There are people who believing in ets, there are people who don't. I'm trying to do both. So my next step is to promote the messages to the people who still rely on the mainstream media who are not quite avacant yet.

1:00:59 Speaker 2: So it's going to be a long journey for me.

1:01:03 Speaker 1: Well, I think the journey will be one that and again, you know it, we all find our way to this community somehow, and it's like everyone has their own mission. And I think if more people like you said, woke to that that idea that we all have a part to play. And the thing that's dividing us the most is the factionalism. It's these fake lines that we draw on the sand, right the team we have to be on a team like Republican or like Democrat or this or that. Loue Alzando, you either you know with them or you're against them.

1:01:50 Speaker 1: You know. That is our biggest enemy, is factionalism exactly.

1:01:56 Speaker 2: The former chair of the Ilumnati says that the moto of the organization is to divide and rule. So they're dividing us. They were supporting KKK in the nineteen sixties at the same time supporting the anti racism movement, so they were on both sides trying to create conflicts and divisions. And this is what's happening right now as we see.

1:02:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Russian troll farms literally use that same tactic by setting up rallies, you know, like anti abortion rallies right across the street from pro pro life rallies, and you know, right across the street from each other. They would set them up and riots would break out. You know, like why do how are people not seeing that we're being played like the Wizard of Oz. There's someone that is pulling the strings and we you know, most people, it's common knowledge that only like eight or thirteen people control the world's media.

1:03:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is why people need to have the knowledge to know the secrets kept, They need to be secrets of knowledge and to really realize that there's more to the messages by the mainstream media. They need to look inside and also to find out whether what they're being told is true or not. So this is why it really suggests people to get the two books and to have the knowledge, have empowerment and make the right decisions.

1:03:36 Speaker 1: Yeah. Another problem is is that people aren't getting the news anymore. They're getting their news, you know what I mean. So the algorithm is going to you know, if you lean a certain way or you you know, you get what I'm saying. So it's going to show you a reflection of what you want to see, so you stay on the phone on these websites longer, and like you know, the very technology that connects us all, it also divides us so so much, and we need to be careful when playing with it because you know, the internet is it's that people don't like to think it's a real place, but there are real consequences.

1:04:35 Speaker 2: Yes, and people need to have an open mind and be open to different perspectives. This is why what I'm trying to do is to break into different circles, breaking too different industries and to promote such messages of the teachings of Christ and also reincarnation to different groups of people, so that people can realize there are different perspective if in life then they should pay attention to.

1:05:02 Speaker 1: Do you worry about being called a heretic?

1:05:06 Speaker 2: No, I don't. Actually, you know, I have certain credentials. I also have a gay D degree, being a Certify Court interpreter, of working with lawyers and doctors and I need to present evidence to them. But for people who to believe us.

1:05:21 Speaker 1: That's amazing. I love that because you know people, you know, when when you start talking about this kind of stuff, people do attack and you know, you need to be ready for that and and to just just brush it off because I think, like I said, I think this book just like all books. You know, I wasn't there, I didn't experience it, So what I take from it is the moral lessons that are trying to be taught and the morality of the deuber prophecy. I highly recommend everyone read it because there are those just like the Bible itself or any other book.

1:06:09 Speaker 1: You know, you can you you get certain things out of out of it. You know, you you ask yourself certain questions, you pick up on the themes and the tones, and you know, the author does a good job of making you ponder things and having you come to your own conclusion at you know, and seeing past the veil, beyond the veil, the veil that these these this secret group wants us to see right They want us to watch the left hand and not see the right hand.

1:06:44 Speaker 2: Exactly. So, I think it's really important for the audience to get a book to empower themselves this knowledge, because the book contains specific, verifiable facts that can save their lives. Literally speaking, many people's lives were saved after reading the book.

1:07:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I want to end with, you know, the book received, you know varied responses. You know, what are the common criticisms that you've encountered, and how do you address them in your discussions and how will you just how will you discuss them about the text when you do your presentations.

1:07:28 Speaker 2: Well, about the ten percent of the people believe the book is science fiction. And it's okay to believe that this is a made up story, but the details still have value. It's just like the Bible. I didn't believe anything within the Bible before I came here, or even for a long time after, until read the book theol About Prophecy. It's the book fel About Prophecy that made me believe that we should follow the teachings of Christ. I really didn't believe the miracles by Christ that this book explains the reason why Christ performed the miracles and how that happened.

1:08:07 Speaker 2: So this book is a fielba prophecy on wills the mysteries of the events that occurred in the Bible or documented in the Bible. At the same time also teach us very valuable spiritual lessons.

1:08:21 Speaker 1: Right, So it not only informs you of the past, but it educates you about how to go about the future, and that I think it's a very valuable tool. And it's almost like it supplements the Bible in a way, you know, in certain aspects. Again, we need to be careful with organized religion because again there's there's narrative, there's money, there's power, there's greed. You know, I'm from Boston, where you know that the church was exposed for very very bad things, like things that we can't say because we'll get kicked off YouTube.

1:09:04 Speaker 1: You know, the the Little Boy's scandal that the Boston Globe uncovered. You know, these are people from the church, right, So these are men, these are human beings that are susceptible to the temptation. Right. And you know, I think, do you think some people are chosen?

1:09:34 Speaker 2: I do believe people have their own path and they were chosen for one reason or another. I do believe that, yes.

1:09:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because it seems that that d. Marque was selected to tell this story for a certain reason. So you know, I just think, like I said, the Tower of Babbel, right is and other teachings we need to learn from. The pas asked, you know, the Big Bang, the the the Bible, says God said, let there be light. Those sound like the same thing to me. Those they're really just in a different context, you know, they sound like the same exact thing to me. One last thing I did want to talk to you about in this little off center was did you see the Terrence Howard stuff on Rogan?

1:10:30 Speaker 2: Yes? I did.

1:10:31 Speaker 1: What was your take on all that?

1:10:35 Speaker 2: I'm pretty uh, I don't matter turns toward and uh. And I believe that he has a lot of validity. And I think his ideas should be respected and researched and more into. And I do believe that there's the logic and behind what he was woman relating and envisioned. And I think the more scientist and more studies should look into what he published.

1:11:04 Speaker 1: Right, I mean, do you think there's any chance of a fractal universe like that?

1:11:10 Speaker 2: Yes? I believe the universe is not only holographic but also fractal.

1:11:16 Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's a whole conversation. There's a whole lot of two hours you could spend just on that. But I I really always enjoy having you on the show, Samuel. Would you have anything coming up that you want to talk about?

1:11:32 Speaker 2: Yes, if you would like me to become a speaker. I'd like to go to the different events and to morow the messages of love and spirituality and also the secrets kept by different organizations or religions. It's going to be a very interesting experience for your audience. So if anyone wants me to go on to your platform or your events, please let me know and contact me.

1:11:58 Speaker 1: Well, I'd love to love set that up and get something. Get you onto one of these uh ufo Twitter Week presentations, and that's actually happening uh this week, so maybe for the next one. So, uh, you've been an amazing guest. People can follow you on Facebook. Are you on Twitter as well?

1:12:24 Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, yes, So what is your handle on x Good Translator? What is it good translator?

1:12:36 Speaker 1: So x at Good Translator and then Facebook you're just Samuel Chung. Yes, all right, Samuel. As always, it's been a hell of a time and you always bring the heat, so it was it was so fun to have a conversation with you again. And here's too many more intention in.

1:13:06 Speaker 3: Educating an intent and at