The UFO SPHERE NETWORK | EARTH'S HIDDEN DEFENSE (FT. Patrick Jackson)

0:13 Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone. This is total disclosure today we have a wonderful show. For decades, those shimmering metallic orbs have been dismissed as weather balloons, drones or just UFOs. But what if there's something far more intelligent, far more ancient, and right here protecting us from haunted houses to high altitude dogfights, from Poltergeist to planetary defense. Meet the man who's mapped it all out. An IT wizard turned UAP revolutionary, the og Sphere Hunter, who's been called the architect of one of the most paradigm shifting theories and modern uphology.

1:01 Speaker 1: Author of the game changing book The Sphere Network, which is backed by pilots, academics, and footage that simply just defies explanation. Patrick Jackson is here to reveal Earth's hidden AI defense grid, the Sphere Network, and how these orbs there aren't invaders, there are guardians in an unseen war. Let's welcome Patrick Jackson. You've gone from building language learning empires as an IT specialist to you know, reverse engineering what you call you know, Earth's most sophisticated defense system.

1:47 Speaker 1: It was the exact like glitch in the matrix moment that was it a specific sighting, a data set, an anomaly that made you realize that these weren't random orbs, but a networked intelligence. Can you walk us through? You know, high your tech background gave you the edge that most researchers would have missed.

2:09 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, the main difference I think is that most UFO researchers, they are they do the journalist groupe where they will you go and speak to someone or speak to a group of people, and they will try and get all the stories and they cross reference those stories and then build like a cleaned up version for the for the public. That's generally what's been happening for like the last twenty years. And there's nothing wrong with that. You know, a lot of people do that. There's a lot of authors I like, they do a good job of it.

2:37 Speaker 2: But my approach is somewhat different because I come from a database background, it specialist background. I predominably do you know, reverse engineering and processes and so and so forth, and so what I what I did really was applied my same work skill set against originally what was polygeists, because that was what was interested in beginning growing up. I I saw some funny things and then I got into all the American and British ghost hunting TV shows.

3:07 Speaker 3: I just found them to be awful.

3:08 Speaker 1: They were so bad. The producer today is a huge fan of the Ghost Adventures, and like Zach Baggins and all those, I just find it to be like, like, not to interrupt you, but I just find it so staged.

3:23 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, they've only got one or two nights to film, so they have to make a big deal out of everything. But the problem is is that that what they're seeing is quite real in some respects, but they interpreted it completely wrong. They interpreted it as dead people or spirits and stuff like that, and it makes no sense and it doesn't mathematically connect either. So eventually, I think is in twenty fifteen, I decided to just have a well, no actually twenty thirteen, twenty thirteen, I decided to just have a crack at it myself and see if I could figure it out.

3:58 Speaker 2: And so what I did was I I hired out a place called thirty yu Strive, which is like the most violent poorly guist in the UK, and just went straight in there and see what I could find or spot or anything like that. And that's what I wanted to do. I didn't want to write a book. It wasn't my intention to do anything big. It was just I wanted to see if I could spot anything that other people had missed using the same kind of you know thought process. Yeah, yeah, And that's what I did. And those four days were the longest four days of my life.

4:26 Speaker 2: I didn't sleep for four days, and it certainly put me on my backside for a while. But after what I did was after I left the place, because I had it all filmed and and so forth. I used to go through all the footage for about a good three hours, two three hours at night after work. I finished work about half five in London, and I would sit there in my in you know, the building and all of my own in this office, and I would just look through the footage and see what I could spot, see if I could see anything, and for a long time to confuse me.

4:59 Speaker 2: But then I finally cracked. I saw something in it.

5:02 Speaker 3: I cracked it.

5:03 Speaker 2: And once I saw that Eureka moment, it all clicked into place. And after that it was just quite easy to work out. It's like any it's like any illusion. Once you figured out the first slide of hand. The rest of the illusion starts to gravel, right, And that's that's how I did it. So I create a presentation just to work you through it. And this is what I'm about to show you. Is I suppose you could call it like corporate level reverse engineering. If you were to give this this a board of directors or IT specialists or engineers or anyone but a technical logical background, they would probably.

5:42 Speaker 1: Can you So, can you reshare that?

5:45 Speaker 3: Yep? You can show it now.

5:48 Speaker 1: And we'll be we'll be able to bring that up. So what is this? Now? Are we going to walk through this?

5:54 Speaker 3: Yes?

5:55 Speaker 1: Okay, so we're gonna be We're gonna get walk We're going to walk through this together. And I so we'll just bring that up.

6:08 Speaker 3: There we are.

6:09 Speaker 1: It looks like you shared our screen.

6:12 Speaker 3: Now it should be coming up now see it?

6:16 Speaker 4: Yes?

6:17 Speaker 3: No, does it come up?

6:22 Speaker 1: But it's just our screen?

6:23 Speaker 2: Oh okay, it must be the hold on a second.

6:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you've got to share the other window.

6:30 Speaker 3: Yeah.

6:35 Speaker 2: I put it on the first screen, but on looking at it doesn't like it just one?

6:46 Speaker 3: All right?

6:50 Speaker 2: Is it here?

6:54 Speaker 1: Okay?

6:57 Speaker 3: I wish I could get rid of all this.

7:02 Speaker 1: If you put it full screen.

7:04 Speaker 2: It should I did a full screen it goes to the other screen. I tried to share onto your screen, but it doesn't seem to work.

7:12 Speaker 3: It doesn't like it.

7:14 Speaker 1: Well, I'll I can. I may be able to crap it.

7:17 Speaker 3: What present of you do?

7:21 Speaker 1: No?

7:24 Speaker 3: What if if I move that here, let's say from current slide? Will not move it?

7:31 Speaker 1: No, there's got to be a way. So when you hit present, it gives you an option like slides and PDFs.

7:41 Speaker 2: So if I go from current slide, it will do it on. Hang on, maybe this would work? Okay, hang on a second.

7:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think if you share it as like an actual like PD yeah slide, it might function better because it's integrated.

8:06 Speaker 3: Mm hmmmm mm hmm.

8:11 Speaker 1: Could you just create another marker?

8:15 Speaker 3: B m.

8:23 Speaker 2: Okay, hold of a second. Let me have update to file.

8:33 Speaker 2: It's just uplating the file.

8:43 Speaker 1: And then make sure to change the angles here.

8:51 Speaker 5: And then bring it to one screen when you're when you're read. But while he has it presented, the need because we're small inside anything like that.

9:03 Speaker 1: So it's a little trick here because there's more aspects to it.

9:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just processing the file uploaded hopefully it's gonna be all right, h come on windows h m hm.

9:39 Speaker 4: Hm h.

9:45 Speaker 1: There we go.

9:48 Speaker 3: So all right, got it, got it, got it right?

9:54 Speaker 1: All right? So Patrick, what are we? What are we looking at here?

9:58 Speaker 3: All right?

9:59 Speaker 2: So this is my book Syr Network. It's a very unique kind of book because it's a data driven reverse engineering attempt at the paranormal or bodygeist which can then turn discover the Syr network behind it. And it's a lot to take in. If you give this book to any engineer or programmer or system architect or anyone in it really who can think in a logical, structured way, they will most likely agree with this book.

10:29 Speaker 1: Okay.

10:31 Speaker 3: So the key is.

10:32 Speaker 2: To to understand logical process and mathematics and that's what stands us out very different from other books.

10:40 Speaker 1: Right. And I will say that in a lot of this and a lot of these, the orb in the spheres, it seems like that whenever you do see them in any video, there's this oddly reminisc like it's it's familiar, this triangular you know, shape or seemed to make and it could be various sizes and measurements, but it's always this seemingly like triangulation triangle and I've always found that to be interesting and it seems like that's what we're about to dive into. Yes, that's right, all right, I'm excited.

11:20 Speaker 2: So just give you a bit about my background. I'm predominantly I'm a IDD based developer experience in central London and Cambridge. I work mainly in immediency and county firms. My corresponsibilities as spotting database issues before they happen, reverse engineering complex problems before and after they occur. Like one example is as a private bank we were working with kept crushing the systems, kept crushing by bringing the operations.

11:47 Speaker 3: To a halt. So I kept I had.

11:51 Speaker 2: A look at it, and I was flown over there to try and figure it out. And I noticed that it always failed to start to nine am. And what we think it out, or what we discovered, was that there's a staff member running a query that against the database at a certain time every day and he was filling up the memory buffer. The same query had been run for five years, but they recently they had like an upgrade and the new version had a smaller buffer size, so when they run the query, it completely filled it up, and then the whole server breaking the whole thing to a stop.

12:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is so really what we do, what I do is kind of the key is like advanced pattern recognition. It's not not just technical troubleshooting, but logical mapping and analysis.

12:38 Speaker 1: Right, So you have an eye for this, like you know, this ability in this, this eye for you know, looking at complex problems and breaking them down mathematically and you know kind of reverse engineering them. Yes, wow, that's amazing. So okay, So here's the over So.

13:00 Speaker 2: The past few years, I've been presenting clear examples of UAP series in action. About a year before their UAP hearings in America, I share a working model to Censee delibrin this Actically, the spheres themselves became a major topic during the hearings, and the spheres themselves are no minor detail, as they account for fifty two percent of all recorded up sightings. I believe that the government is in a very difficult position as they generally don't like what they can't control. So I think the key strategy is to let the civilians piece it together independently.

13:30 Speaker 2: What will happen is the smart observers will see the patterns and they while reactive individuals will dismiss them, and so that is the safest outcome as a professor. Nolan noted that I can identify these fears going back in photos going back decades, which makes them a powerful tool for verifying both historic and modern images, as hoaxes didn't know about them and couldn't fake what.

13:52 Speaker 3: They did existed.

13:53 Speaker 1: Right, That's a good point.

13:56 Speaker 2: So now I'm the author of the Sphere Network is reviewed being a top five books in the world mark almost five stars on Amazon, and the reviews are glowing. So oops, here we are so outstanding. The up phenomena has been solved, but now has been family here on the head groundbreaking research, new theoretic call framework, on new ap UFOs, real data and research. I must read well new information. Then there's a lot more than that US example from a few months ago. So how I got there is that the journey was growing up.

14:34 Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time watching paranormal TV shows, the documentaries, ghost Hunters and so forth, but none of it really shelled with me at the mainstream researchers for what they were saying just didn't add up. It was just too much WU and not enough logic for me. Mathematically it makes zero sense. Like, according to twenty twenty three stats from England and Wales, seen one hundred people die every day. However, paranormal activity does not increase, will decrease year on year. It just generally stays same in the same locations a year after year.

15:03 Speaker 2: So eventually I kind of got tired of it, the vague explanations and the blurry ideas and the thinking, and I just thought, well, you know, if I'm paid to reverse engineer these systems at work, why can I just use the same mindset on the paranormal and just to see what I can find. So it was never really my intention to write a book or anything. It was just It's just I had to kind of release my obsession from my mind. So I just got on with it and tried to see what I could find.

15:31 Speaker 1: I like that.

15:33 Speaker 2: So this here is Steady Strive. It's voted the most haunted house in the UK. And if you can see my mouse pointer, this is the house here, this half of it, and this bit here, and all the prodigeist activity occurs on the top floor here and right here in this area here. Okay, So back in twenty fifteen, I spent about four nights in Studies Drive, also known as the Black Monk House. I went in there not as a believer, but just like as an analysis observing, measuring, recording, and within fifteen minutes this event here happened.

16:07 Speaker 3: So I'll send you this link. Oops.

16:16 Speaker 1: What the fuck?

16:17 Speaker 3: Yeah? So this here is the.

16:18 Speaker 2: Cold shed door banging. This actually is a common event. Who wait, so that was in the house.

16:26 Speaker 1: Yeah that I'm sorry. That's a rapid door like banging. Yeah, what in God's name is that?

16:36 Speaker 2: So what this means is is that this this event itself stands out because it occurred the night before and other teams have seen it since and before. So what does that mean? Like from a ninety point of view, it means that this event, it's a constant, It's a specific action for a pacific reason. Might happen on a Monday, and nothing will happen for a week, and then it will happen again. And so these behavior patterns are not human behavior patterns. They are mechanical comput to like process driven driven actions.

17:02 Speaker 2: And that's what I kind of realized.

17:04 Speaker 3: Okay, So this here is the staircase.

17:08 Speaker 2: And again this is where a lot of the poorly. Guy's effects occur now on the third step of the stairs, which is down here directly above in this area here, if you turn all power off in the house, you'll still track a high high level level, right, Yeah, electromagnetic frequency spikes and they move around, so you can actually track them with a meter and then move around and now very very high. Now these emissions. Also every timmeer you walk up these stairs, you get dizzy. So and that's not just me, it's everyone who goes up these stairs at certain times will get dizzy.

17:42 Speaker 2: And so what you have there is you have a high energy source which is producing an emission which your your device is picking up, and then when you're walking underneath it, you're actually being physically affected by the emissions and you're feeling dizzy.

17:55 Speaker 1: So this so because we I have a lot of listeners as well. If you're listening to this on a podcast platform, I definitely like head over to the YouTube version. But it's just a it's a staircase and the third on thirties drive home and it's just a pretty normal looking staircase. But so what you're saying is several people, you know, not related, have all had physiological effects dizziness as they walk up the staircase.

18:24 Speaker 3: That's right.

18:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's not there all the time. It switches on and off. So some time you're going that you checked your sage during one o'clock in the afternoon and it's not there, and then you go, say six seven o'clock and it's there.

18:36 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's very interesting.

18:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, so this one here, this is what people are seeing in the building. This is why it's called the black monk because it looks like a vertical black.

18:48 Speaker 3: Mass moving around.

18:49 Speaker 2: It moves into digital way, so it moves as a like observe moving digital black mass, a vertical black mass that moves digitally without weight or resistance, moves as a set rate instant speed and stop.

19:03 Speaker 3: So it moves like.

19:03 Speaker 2: This, like very very quickly left to right and then through the door and so forth. Wow, it doesn't speed up, it doesn't flow down. It runs at a constant rate.

19:16 Speaker 2: And this is actually fairly common. People see these in basement sceneatics all the time, and this is one of the most commonly seen paranormal things out there.

19:26 Speaker 1: It's like just like this wall of shadow, like shadowy black. Yeah, that's that's really odd.

19:34 Speaker 2: Move to the next one. This is the same black mass. It's different photographs, but it's the same black mass going.

19:39 Speaker 3: Past this doorway.

19:41 Speaker 2: So what I did was I filtered it and boosted it so I could see through it. And what you see here's a lot of noise. But then right here in the middle, just above a top top top and half, you see what looks to be a small ball flying by where the arrow is see it?

19:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, Holy crap.

20:04 Speaker 2: So this one, here's another picture I got. So how it works is all these people go to that you strive, and all the images they take go back to the owner of the building, who then forwards me the images and I can then review them. Right, And this is one of the images that someone got, And here you can see a small silver ball hovering off the ground.

20:23 Speaker 1: How far off the ground would you say that is? You know, given in the perception of this photo.

20:29 Speaker 3: I would say about a couple of inches.

20:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, I say, but that's what it seemed like. I just wanted to make sure I'm not getting tricked optically or anything.

20:37 Speaker 2: So all of these patterns like and looke behaviors like the cold shed door, keep banging high ems, spikes, neological effects and geographical consistency do not line up with the idea or ghost of spirits. When I when I saw this, this was like my Eureka moment because once I realized what it was, everything else.

20:55 Speaker 3: Clipped into place. And I'm going to explain my thought process.

20:58 Speaker 1: Kind of like that illusion you're talking about, right, Yeah, Yeah, the illusion is broken, or at least the initial barrier, then everything else starts to kind.

21:07 Speaker 3: Of like that's right.

21:09 Speaker 2: So here we are. Here's some more pictures of it. So here you can see it's moving towards the door, and it's leaving this trail behind it.

21:15 Speaker 1: Okay, this is moving.

21:17 Speaker 2: So yeah, so this is the same thing we've seen over skin Walker. In fact, they caught it on camera, the infrared cameras, and again it had the same trail leaving behind it.

21:25 Speaker 1: Ironic that you brought that up. Yeah, I have a question later on that I want to ask you that is related to that, So we'll definitely get there.

21:36 Speaker 3: Yeah. Cool.

21:36 Speaker 2: And so here you can see it going towards the door, and then it stops, and then it ducks to the left, the right, and then it ducks back again. To take a look at what's going on. And here you can see it is flying a little higher off the floor now. And here here's this couple of inches and here's about you know, maybe a foot right.

21:54 Speaker 1: Wow.

21:54 Speaker 2: This here is historical images, or at least depictions of them. This one is an example from nineteen oh three, and people used to see these objects flying through the wall. It's a glowing sphere flying through walls.

22:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean even you know, again, for what it's worth, I'm just using it, using it as an example. Hate him, I love them. Louel A. Zondo, you know, talked about this like green orb like flying through his home or something, you know, and he allegedly ran this a tip program for the United States. So you know, again, is there something there to that, you know? But let's take a look.

22:33 Speaker 2: So here is like a modern This is a combination of modern images and historical depictions. So here is the same small sphere, baseball sized sphere hovering off the ground, but this one's glowing. This woman's taken in a field in the UK. Again just a few feet off the ground. This one here is historical depictions of it throwing, flying through walls and glowing just like this. And this is the one in thirty est drive. So as you can see this and this, it's the same thing.

23:02 Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes it is. It's describing in that first picture, the one at the top left. How how are you not? Are we sure that's not the moon?

23:20 Speaker 3: Oh?

23:21 Speaker 4: No?

23:22 Speaker 3: Yeah?

23:23 Speaker 1: Have we done those kind of like, hey, could this have been the moon? If we have? We eliminated those kind of prosaic explanations.

23:30 Speaker 2: Well, actually, there's the videos that these are fairly common. It's just people have to pick it up with it. I've had a not I've got multiple videos of these things hovering off the ground, a loas of the ground glowing.

23:40 Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, yeah, wow, Well definitely there's definitely historical precedents for it, clearly, and you're seeing it in this home. Yes, and this is your first, you know, experience into this stuff, like.

23:55 Speaker 2: Personally, No, Actually, I I used where I used to live growing up. I used to see these things flying over the tree lights, the the street lights, and also over the fields up in the sky and so forth quite frequently. It's just I didn't really know what they were and I didn't click. But when I when I saw them, and then I saw distinct steadies drive it all kind of made sense.

24:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting, So you had been seeing these things your your entire life essentially pretty much. Do you think that in a way that it might have been You know a lot of people in the community think like you know, it's certain sightings and certain experiences are meant for the experiencer, right, so to open them up, to bring them or set them down a path? Do you think that that could have been out? What happened here?

24:49 Speaker 2: I have no idea, but all all I can say is I've spent a good chunk of my life figuring this out.

24:54 Speaker 1: Okay, so the results are in all right.

24:59 Speaker 2: So here, So what you have like, so if you look at the analysis of this, it's a question like why are these small baseball sized spheres and buildings, why would they use perform more physical actions? And why are people getting physically affected? So advanced drones, because that's what these things are are just small advanced drones need to send them received signals. It needs a network and it needs AI, and AI is the key to repetitive actions. So we know the door downstairs has been seen and recorded to do the same banging multiple times for the last twenty years, so that pat is a pattern that's consistent.

25:34 Speaker 2: And if you actually study podguyst cases, you'll notice they have all the same behavior patterns. They'll be banging doors, throwing objects, electrical effects, things catching on fire. So what it means it's the same AI pulling from the same library of pre coded actions. So the first thing you do when you see these small drones flung about, you think, okay, well let's grab a transmission. Lets see if we can find the transmissions. That's what I did. So I set it's at the house up and we managed to sample an acem bit code that's using two bits for synchronization.

26:08 Speaker 2: So when these objects are transmitting, we can pick them up and then we can record it and then put it through a machine and then we can dissect what's actually been transmitted. And what you have here is in an athene code and there you have the digital synchronization packet right here.

26:24 Speaker 1: So what we're looking at is what you're saying, is this sphere speaking.

26:30 Speaker 3: Essentially it's relaying yeah, like.

26:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's digital language from the sphere yeah wow.

26:38 Speaker 2: And so this it kind of explains poly gis activity because these these are small type threes out like transponders, which means that they will switch on and switch off, and when they switch on, they start relaying signals. And when those signals have been relayed, there are byproducts. So what it's using is microwaves and gamma rays and with the gamma ray products by products. So when when these are these objects are trying, depending on the range that they have to transmit, will depend on the power output that it uses, which is why you why it performs these actions to move people away.

27:10 Speaker 2: So this is to do with the invest gurol or radiation, which I'll show you in a minute.

27:14 Speaker 1: Okay, wow, this is fad.

27:16 Speaker 2: So if there is these drones like in these buildings, then they also need a network.

27:22 Speaker 3: So what I did was.

27:23 Speaker 2: I I I sourced all the haunted locations in the UK and then it filtered them. So you filter it by this method as in you you filter out buildings that only have pologassics occurring now and again you only target the ones that happened all the time, so it's like happening every day or every few days. And when you do that, you come up with this this this mapping, and what this looks like is so yeah, Matt below are the UK are highly active observed in locations within the highlight areas of some similar point to point distances.

28:03 Speaker 2: The pattern indicates the low to ground network is operational and it's technically similar to a network topology of a microwave based point to point communication system microwaves because microwaves are only traveling straight lines. Also, it's secure, so unless you're a direct line of sight of this, you won't detect it. Interesting, so when you when we look back at that door banging, you say, okay, well what was going on? And what is actually occurring is that is that example is a really good example of artificial intelligence at work.

28:35 Speaker 2: So what you have right here is the map of the building. Now I was up here in bedroom too, and then the colshed door started banging like as on the tape. So what happens is is that everyone here goes rushing down to have a look at it to see what's going on. So what's really occurring is we're getting the electronic emissions from here on the first floor right in the attic area. So this thing here needs to transmit. So you're talking gamma radiation and microwave right and what it's doing is moving you down to here, which is actually the safest, most shielded.

29:04 Speaker 3: Part of the building.

29:05 Speaker 2: So you look at it, You've got one wall, two wolves and three walls between you, so and each wall absorbed the irradiation as it goes through.

29:13 Speaker 1: It very interesting.

29:17 Speaker 2: So what it's doing is that it's from observant behaviors in the house. I concluded these small spheres are using rule based artificial intelligence, meaning they have pre coded responses and outcomes for specific triggers and actions. So why bang the col sheed door from a layer of the house. I found the col shehed dwarfs. In fact, that most electronically shielded and distant part of the building, which is in alignment with the investigator or radiation, but a more distance you while from the source is safe for it is thus explaining that why the door is banging.

29:44 Speaker 2: This action is to attract people to the coal sheed area, moving people away from the sphere's broadcast location.

29:52 Speaker 1: So why does this because for someone who doesn't know, why does this make sense?

30:01 Speaker 2: Because because we're picking we're picking up gamma radiation and microwaves number one, number two, we're picking up a high energy source number three, we are seeing these silver spheres flying around and caught on tape and video, and four it's banging certain areas of the building which are electronically the most shuted part of the building. When you connext all that together, it's obvious. It's also people get People get nauseous. So if you if you stay up here while this thing's relaying, you will feel sick.

30:30 Speaker 3: You'll get.

30:32 Speaker 1: So that's why they're getting nauseous. Is when it's really when it's flicked on and is turning, it's that signal that's communicating, is creating that byproduct. That's the physiological effect.

30:43 Speaker 2: That's right, It's a radiation pulse. So when you when you see these on these TV shows of people fainting in these buildings, is because they're getting hit by radiation.

30:53 Speaker 1: Wow, uh is it? Well, because we know if it's gamma, is that is how is it? If it's low level is it? Is it not dangerous to them? And it's just you know, well.

31:06 Speaker 2: It appears dangerous because I think these type threes, as like call them the small baseball sized spheres, the type threes they are, I think that they're responsible for spontaneous human combustion.

31:17 Speaker 1: Oh my god.

31:18 Speaker 2: So if you can imagine. I'll show you in the architectural act of how I think it's.

31:21 Speaker 1: Working, microwaving it from the inside out.

31:25 Speaker 2: Basically if it has to do a very long distance transmission. You're talking about a he energ microwave. Then mean, if you happen to be in the way of it, you will just get you will just turn to ash.

31:37 Speaker 1: Literally will happen.

31:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it'll happen so fast that you won't even respond.

31:41 Speaker 1: To it because it would just be like I said, it would be like you're getting like put into a microwave for like, you know, two seconds, and then it's just it's just again, it's not does it's going to instantaneously you instantaneous?

31:58 Speaker 2: Wow, this is if you look at these pictures of people who had it done, you'll notice of their hands are just sitting there like normal. It's not like they're fighting the fire or anything. It's because it happened so fast that the brain can't react.

32:14 Speaker 1: There's no processing time. It just it was.

32:16 Speaker 4: It was.

32:17 Speaker 1: There was a time that it wasn't happening, and then immediately there was a there was no build up, It just it turned on.

32:24 Speaker 3: That's right.

32:25 Speaker 1: That's scary.

32:27 Speaker 2: So here is a really good example. This was This was This is a still shot from a YouTube video that I found. They were in a house having porterageists activity and they were having all these gadgets going off and they looked up towards the attic and they see this little ball hovering off the ground. So how it works out is is that these spheres will operate in one of the two locations of the building, will either be the attic or the basement.

32:55 Speaker 1: You circled. Just to get a little clarification here, you've circled even the black So what is the actual ball. Is that whier part or is it the whole thing?

33:05 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, So the the high models out is the type threes will operate in the most shielded part of the building generally, so if it's in if it's like in a modern building like a brick building, you'll operate in the attic. While in wooden houses like having the US, you have these wooden buildings that are like single floor and they generally have a basement to them, and in those cases they will operate in the basement. In fact that the wooden houses are actually the most polty geist ridden houses because because of the way that the signals are coming in and out, they have to cause a lot of diversions to new people away.

33:40 Speaker 3: Wow.

33:42 Speaker 2: In fact, there's a documentary you know what, there's a documentary called the Demon House.

33:48 Speaker 1: Yeah.

33:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think in that case, they they put an electrical engineer guy into the basement to see if he could measure anything. And he said, oh, yeah, I'm picking up this heineg source moving around, but he didn't know what, didn't know what it was and what I think it was like the next day he went down with multiple organ failure.

34:10 Speaker 1: Geez.

34:11 Speaker 2: And just because of the emissions, these things are given off. What well, you see that the problem is is that the mainstream will just blame demons and move on to the next one. And that's what that's what they appeared to do.

34:27 Speaker 1: So so are you saying that they're looking at it through this lens that again, whether it arises from a religious standpoint or you know, just the entertainment value of what ghosts and demons offer versus looking at it through this realer, much realer lens, much more practical lens, and honestly a more prosaic explanation being these you know, network of spheares. Do you think that again, do you think they're just not looking for the right things or are they actively just you know, not seeing it because they don't want to.

35:12 Speaker 2: I think that they just see it through at their own lens. I don't questions. The truth is is that the paranormal industry, I say, on like the networks for instance, it's like a billion dollar a year, you know what.

35:21 Speaker 1: I mean, Yes, change what's not broken.

35:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have no interest of trying to figure anything out. They just want to keep the ghost train running.

35:31 Speaker 1: Fens like no offense to any of those shows or anything like that. It's just like it's the same thing over and over again, and it's and it's like quite boring honestly because there's no actual like advancement in research. And honestly, that's why in my opinion, you know, I've had people ask me why am I into UFOs, Like why do I waste my time with UFOs and all this nonsense. They're these people are the ones that are like ghost hunting, and I'll like, they're not having hearings in Congress about demons and ghosts, they're having them about UFOs.

36:09 Speaker 1: Not that I'm like, I think it's all you know. Again, I think this is a great example of when the two mediums do meet. I think it's more of the communities that sector it off. You know, it's ghosts and demons or it's UFOs. It can't be.

36:23 Speaker 3: Both, that's right.

36:25 Speaker 1: Right, And then they're you know, there's the cryptid people, and then there's the hybrid people, and there's it's just like they all have their own lenses, except like what do we I like that you've boiled it down and you're like you're getting to like rudimentary mathematics and like angles and like showing. So yeah, this is this is interesting.

36:45 Speaker 2: So what I what I kind of forget ot was was that these are divert people away from areas where HyG energy radioactive bursts are about to occur. These include emissions like gamma radiation and microwave bursts. These diversions aren't random, but they follow rules and patterns that they take the form of noises, moving objects, or emotional influence. This behavior appears to be classic post Poltic guist activity, so in reality, these are l likely safety protocols, moving people to lower his zones within the structure.

37:13 Speaker 2: The spehers themselves appear to function as on demand transponders, which will explain why Polder Guys activity is often intermittent. Also lots of locations as well. Also this theories that has been or at least this the signals have been independently validated as well. So Jimsy Guller conducting field tests in the USA basin confirmed gamma radiation and mic.

37:34 Speaker 1: Said, you said the Uinta basin, that's where Skinwalker ranches.

37:40 Speaker 2: Holy shit, So the exact same patterns are I'd modeled, so I'll show you.

37:47 Speaker 3: So here what you have is.

37:50 Speaker 2: Microwave at the top and gamma radiation bursts. So when he put these these these detectors and people's homes that were having funny yearness or funny party guys like effects, and uh, that's what they're picking up microwave.

38:05 Speaker 4: Best.

38:06 Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question out of the questions that I wrote, I think this one might be a good time to just bring it up up. Now are you looking at or have you maybe not to jump ahead? I hope I'm not like getting to something that you have, but I haven't heard you talk about it yet. This one point seven gigahertz signal that they're getting on Skinwalker Ranch, they're getting beyond Skinwalker Ranch, you know, in many other places as well. Are you noticing that as well, Like, is that factoring in?

38:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're also picking up one point six and one point seven two gigahertspecially if.

38:44 Speaker 1: For anyone who doesn't know, these are typically bands that are associated with space to Earth transmissions, like from the from the military. They're bands that are are usually reserved for Earth to space transmit So I don't know if that brings any relevancy, but that's what they're usually used. But we're seeing them at Skinwalker Ridge, We're seeing them in other places, seems like we're seeing them here.

39:11 Speaker 2: And it's interesting because we were watching these signals coming in and out, and as they were coming in and out, the sensors in the house were going off as well.

39:20 Speaker 1: This is wild, this is actually data. Yeah, this is the evidence.

39:27 Speaker 2: So here you say the physical effects of gamma radiation, So, low dose gamma radiation can have very birth physical effects on human mind and body. These effects include nausea and vomiting, fatigue and tiredness, headaches, dizziness and fainting, a skin redness, and irritation, decreased appetite, weakness and lethargy and cognitive impairment, all of which are very common issues for people who live in or next to what we call haunted the ounces.

39:53 Speaker 1: Again, these these hotspots like Skinwalker Ridge, like a Bradshaw Ranch. I only bring those up because again there's a theme here. But there's also like hotspots like in Massachusetts where I live, like the Bridgewater Triangle. But there are places all around the world.

40:12 Speaker 2: It's the same show all over the world.

40:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so it's very very common. So guys, are are we talking about an elaborate system of multiple different types of phenomena happening all at once, because this isn't just one thing.

40:31 Speaker 3: The series of the chitecture of it.

40:36 Speaker 2: But they do cause a lot of other effects as well.

40:41 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, interesting, Yeah all.

40:45 Speaker 2: Right, So when I was actually in the building itself, I got brain swimming, which also happened down at Skinwalker with Thomas.

40:55 Speaker 3: Yeah.

40:55 Speaker 1: It's uncanny.

40:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, because when the door was banging, I didn't run downstairs, so I didn't take the warning, so I just stood there waiting for stuff to happen. Within two days, my brain was swelling in my skull, and my thought process had changed. Instead of being a very fluid thinker, I was actually quite bristle and confused and short tempered. It actually feels a lot like sunburn on the inside. That's how which is actually the same as radiation poisoning. It's the same thing. So the analysis is that the baseball size type three spheres appeared to create one call a dynamic microwave based data network that moves around to its needs.

41:39 Speaker 2: The uses buildings itself to help absorb the electricicstrict thignatures and mask gamma radiation basks. They use AI and pre coded actions to new people away when needed, and this has been misinterpreted as evil spirits and ghosts over our history. Depending on the type of building they operate in, they operating one of the two main areas, either the basement or the attic logically depending on the electrom electro magnetic absorption rates. Because they use bursary laying, it means the network is near undetectable from the sky as it all blends in with background radiation.

42:08 Speaker 2: In other words, it's a very stealthy AI based state of network that can move around to its needs while keeping the general public at bay. Using scarecrow light actions. And this is why the mainstream paranormal researchers have got nowhere in eighty years. Like you've probably heard stories where you know, someone's house become very active and then just stopped.

42:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, very much a.

42:36 Speaker 2: Brand new house. It might be a you know.

42:39 Speaker 3: Yeah.

42:39 Speaker 1: That's the thing is I've found that it's not the house. Now. I don't think it's the house itself. It could be in some I don't. I don't think so, but I think it's actually the land.

42:53 Speaker 3: No, no, it's not.

42:54 Speaker 2: It's the type three spheres create a dynamic network that means that they can move around, they can move around the kind of to its needs. And then when it needs to lock into a place and relay signals, it will go into an empty building mostly or someone's house, and then it will relay signals and cause diversions to move people away. And this is what we call polyguist activity. But also what's happening is is that you'll notice that you'd have like a like thirty Strive is always active every day, but the surrounding houses are also active, just not so much.

43:24 Speaker 2: And in the terms of networking or computer networking, that's what we called load balancing. So what it is is you have a primary route and you have secondary roots. So if the primary route is too busy or it's blocked, you use secondary roots. And the secondary roots are there surrounding houses, so they also have spheres in them, but only switch on now and again to relay signals. And most of the time people even know where they're there. People will just report it. It's like, oh, I see this friendly little or flying around and on my camera sometimes but nothing happens that it's effectively just re roots around different different route too to the same.

44:01 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is, let's say, I mean, let's get like kind of granular on this op here, because you're describing a relay system where a high altitude Type one spots something right, maybe whatever, an intruder you know where it pings a ground based Type three that are already in buildings via microwave. Then the Type twos form a V shaped or triangular intercept. Team. Walk us through a real world engagement that you've documented here, like those recent Lisbon or Austin clips. What does the data show in terms of like the speed, energy signature and why no visible propulsion?

44:42 Speaker 3: Oh, Gosha.

44:43 Speaker 2: All right, Well, firstly what happens is, uh yeah, the type ones detects objects coming into towards the planet, and then what they'll do is signal down to Type threes. Because this the Cyeer network is self control from the ground up. It's aterrestrial based system, meaning that all the architecture to build this and operate this is on the underground or inside nountense. Then they obviously processed the threat and then they will then send signals back ups and type threes. They then relay off the type twos and then up to the Type one B formations and then that they basically then swarm the objects in space.

45:19 Speaker 2: I can show you this in a minute.

45:22 Speaker 1: Okay, wonderful.

45:23 Speaker 2: So here we are, so this here, this model here, This was the one that went to send to the Gillibrand a year before the UAP hearings, and then they were talking about spheres during the hearing itself. Here we have the Type threes in the buildings loads of the ground. This line here represents the ground, so in this case it's just a few feet off the ground. And then what happens is this relays onto another one, which means to another building and then you know onwards nonals cross countries and stuff.

45:48 Speaker 2: And then what it does it will relay up the type two. So these are data relays. What they effectively do is take a low energy signal that is coming from the ground and then amplifying that like signal to energy signal. So that's why it does it a distance away from us, because it's relaying the data but a much higher energy rate. So then this what this will do. Then that will then relay up to the type one V formation here, which will then triangulate on objects coming into an atmosphere.

46:20 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, so it looks like for anyone who's watching, it looks like a kind of like a kite formation through like like legitimately three D kite formation. And this is, like I said, this is something that you see in a lot of videos. Is this this triangular formulation formation that they seem to operate in, And it's uncanny again looking at it.

46:45 Speaker 2: In fact, you can determine the direction of the target by where the type two is. So in this case it's at one o'clock because the type two is here, which is dead center of the V formation. So if you draw a line right through it. It will be one o'clock. So the Type ones will form one of two main formations. There will be a flat flat formation and triangle up on its side, which is what you're looking at here, and it will rotate and pivot in the sky to its needs.

47:16 Speaker 1: Okay, and again, what are some examples of why this network would be used.

47:23 Speaker 2: I'll get to that in a minute. This is but we'll walk through the examples. Yeah, So this one here you're looking at this here is the Type two. These ones here, This was over Poland in twenty twenty three, approximately thirty to fifty centimeters in diameter. They always generally fly above the tree line and they'll stay in the same general area for a period of time and then they'll fly off. But they also do a thing called daisy chain, which means that there'll be one here and one here, and then there will be another.

47:56 Speaker 2: And they will network over topology like mountains and the obstacles. They appear to use a microwave based link for communication. And I can show you some examples.

48:09 Speaker 1: Do you want me to show those videos?

48:11 Speaker 6: Yep, if you want, Yeah, so I'll do the first one.

48:40 Speaker 2: So this is the Type two. Again, it's over the tree line. It stays in the same general location, moving very slowly. It's over a hilly environment. Again, because it's the line of sight system, it has to work around topology. So that's what this one's doing.

48:56 Speaker 1: And this is do you know where this is filmed?

48:59 Speaker 2: God, I get so many of day.

49:01 Speaker 1: At least it kind of looks like these are wow.

49:10 Speaker 2: So and also it's a ground based system, so that's why it's going back to the ground orbably to go back to where it was deployed from.

49:17 Speaker 1: Right. Okay, let's STARp.

49:21 Speaker 3: Look at the next one.

49:23 Speaker 1: Okay, let me stop remove present. It's hard to.

49:36 Speaker 4: Wait.

49:36 Speaker 1: Where is it?

49:54 Speaker 3: That's the first one. There's two other videos.

49:58 Speaker 1: Have the mouse m hm m m h m hm

50:06 Speaker 1: h m. I think you sent the way that you sent the link.

50:19 Speaker 3: Let me send you a clean yeah.

50:21 Speaker 1: It uh, it like lumps them all together somehow.

50:26 Speaker 2: That one.

50:29 Speaker 1: There we go, okay, h m hm the Hindoo come back.

50:58 Speaker 1: I didn't know it's in a different language.

51:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's dark. Start again, it's stark. So this one, here's the Type two again, is flying over the mountaintop. You can actually see the trail it's leaving behind in the sky. It's like a byproduct to the proportion system, like a lensing effect.

51:16 Speaker 3: There.

51:17 Speaker 2: You can just about see it. You see it a bit more in a second.

51:30 Speaker 1: That's amazing.

51:34 Speaker 3: Here we are.

51:34 Speaker 2: So here's nice close of it, and you can see the lensing effect of the back. Yeah, the same thing you've got on the building as well.

51:41 Speaker 1: You see wow, that little like blur that comes out comes.

51:45 Speaker 3: Off the back of it.

51:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's like a gravitational lensing effect on the atmosphere.

51:50 Speaker 1: I was going to say, it's almost like it's looking it's refracting the light in a way that because the the gravity field around the craft is being bent it seems or something.

52:00 Speaker 3: Yeah.

52:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, the field based propulsion system will bend light around it. And that's why you're getting this.

52:06 Speaker 1: A fact, right, because I've seen that in other other videos. It's not that's not the first time I've seen that.

52:12 Speaker 2: No, it's it's it's a unique signature of these of these objects.

52:15 Speaker 1: It's very very interesting. So there's one more.

52:19 Speaker 2: Yep, one more. This one here is where it's chasing an E ten. There's a type two sort of trolling in a ten. They generally like trolling the air force for some reason.

52:31 Speaker 1: I've never seen this. I've never seen this. What in the world? So that's an A ten warhog? Yeah, who's filming this?

52:49 Speaker 3: I'm assuming it's military. I must be a military.

52:56 Speaker 1: Is that the warhog?

52:58 Speaker 3: Yeah?

52:59 Speaker 1: Okay?

52:59 Speaker 3: And and I think it's going off now.

53:05 Speaker 1: Okay, And that's the end of it.

53:07 Speaker 2: So here's the next The next one I'm going to show you is really good.

53:12 Speaker 3: Kah. Let me send you this, okay, mhm.

53:28 Speaker 1: Okay.

53:38 Speaker 2: There is an example of the daisy chaining that the types too. Do you see the daily changing the sky?

53:44 Speaker 1: Oh? My god?

53:46 Speaker 3: All in a row?

53:48 Speaker 2: What so if you can imagine like our own microwave based relay systems, but up in the sky, it's the same thing. It's just working over your environmental topology.

54:03 Speaker 3: See why why isn't.

54:05 Speaker 1: It letting me pause it. That was awesome that that one had again, if so he paus it there right there, you can see you can see three of them in a row. It's like in the distance.

54:22 Speaker 3: I think.

54:23 Speaker 1: Wow.

54:26 Speaker 2: So it creates like a like a line of sight communication network in the sky.

54:31 Speaker 1: That is amazing.

54:34 Speaker 2: Because it's using microwaves, it's direct it's it means it's stealthy, so nothing above can detect it and nothing below one detected.

54:42 Speaker 1: Right. So though that those are some amazing videos, is there is there any other one?

54:49 Speaker 2: So yeah, I've got some more. So here these are the Type one V formations. So these are the largest of the variants, and these approximately two to three meters in diameter. They create a V formation up in the sky. The former shifts between two distinct modes. You have a vertical formation where the V formation is up on its side like this, and then you have a horizontal where the V formation is flat parallel to the ground. This movement is the entire V formation will move as a single unit up in the sky, and it will move and pivot together as one.

55:19 Speaker 2: Here's the other formation that produces in this case. This one here was over Italy in twenty twenty. Then you have the Type one V formation here in a horizontal formation this this is wrong, but this is actually a for horizontal configuration. And then you have the type two which is here. So here you have the type two, and then you have the type one spheres and horizontal configuration. And then you have a second group here and type two right here, and the same type ones and horizontal configuration.

55:51 Speaker 2: Wow, so the same process is keep repeating across That's what I mean. There's a process the keeps repeating in the time and time again. As a result, because because these formations keep repeating, it means that there is a process at work, which means you can reverse engineer it.

56:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so that means that you have started that quick.

56:14 Speaker 2: I've done you already. So this is all in the book. So this is how it operates. So you have the type threes which are in the buildings. That's the data network. They operate as a dynamic network. The slows to the ground. So if you think about it, like you know, like how we use satellites during in war. So the reason why we use satellites is because it's the highest point. So what we do is we send the they drone in to and then the satellite will guide the missile down to hit the ground. But because in this case it operates in reverse because the threat is from space, so it has to use the lowest point.

56:50 Speaker 3: Which is the ground.

56:51 Speaker 2: So you have the type threes operating in the buildings and across the across the country. They don't just use buildings, but they will use anything that will shure the electron left and commissions, So anything like holes in the ground or under bridges or in caves, remote areas, you know, very like the desert. People see them alight in the desert and they will come online. They will start relaying, and then they shut they shut down again. But these are the Type three networks down here. They then link up to the Type two relays, which are effectively taking a low ery signal here and then boosting it for a high energy transmission across maybe one hundred miles or fifty miles across the sky.

57:27 Speaker 2: This one then links onto another Type two which is local to the Type one V formation I wish are musial larger variants. And this is always in the same position. This will always be center of the triangle, but the triangle will pivot, but generally it will always be in sex.

57:41 Speaker 3: So I'm moving the sky like this.

57:43 Speaker 2: There's one right, And then what it's doing is that it's then pointing up to the target.

57:48 Speaker 3: Now, how do you work this out?

57:49 Speaker 2: Well, what's occurring is just pure mathematics. So what this is doing is a thing called trilateration. It's using you know, when you're turning your mobile phone on you look at the GPS. Yes, yeah, So what is happening is your phone is looking at three satellites up in space and it determines this position from those three satellites. Right, This is working in reverse. So this is using three points to then look up in the sky and then track electronic signatures that are coming in from space.

58:18 Speaker 3: So then on it.

58:19 Speaker 2: Once it's doing that that tracking like that, you can homing up home in on its then using the fourth sphere at the back here as a distance calculation. So this is then doing a distance calculation to the target. And then when you combine all that data together you get three D tracking of objects in space. In other words, it's the very high resolution tracking and targeting system WOW. And also the mathematicstra up here. This is how it operates. This is how it operates here, and also by looking at the triangle you can actually determine the distance of the object that is tracking.

58:55 Speaker 3: It says here.

58:56 Speaker 2: Many trilateration systems use the baseline to range ratio of one to ten. It's a distance between each of the spheres is one hundred meters. The system would likely to be optimized to track objects up to about one hundred thousand meters or one competter. So by just by looking at the triangle in the sky, you can determine the actual distance that is tracking.

59:17 Speaker 1: Right, So the distance, so the distance from the network to the target, and all that math is you're saying checks out.

59:28 Speaker 2: Yes, Wow, if you put this screenshots through grock heavy, you'll come back and say.

59:34 Speaker 1: Correct, grock heavy.

59:36 Speaker 4: What is that?

59:37 Speaker 3: You know?

59:38 Speaker 2: The AI grock heavy Oh grok. So yeah, it's used for like, you know, deep calculations.

59:48 Speaker 1: Okay, that's why I love x is AI. It's like so many different like it's it's that's why I like it more than like the chat gpt ones because like there's the you can use it in various functionality, like it's not just like I don't know, I like that, but okay, that's awesome.

1:00:07 Speaker 2: So also, as I said, from the formation of the type of the triangle here, you can determine where the target is. So it's when the when the target is upright on the side, when the when the triangle is upright, it means the target is side on And when the the triangle is flat, it's doing a vertical ship it's doing a vertical scan up in the sky.

1:00:28 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, so what would so targets could be ten warthogs, they could be people, they could be other craft in up traffic, exactly exactly, missiles miss like you ever, So I'm sure you've heard of like the case where Bob Jacobs was filming, you know, a dummy warhead and you know this UFO thing, this ball of you know, metallic or disc shape he said, disc, But you know this can be the way you're looking at it could be it could be a ball as well, just like tilted up, but that it like shoots a beam at the missile, moves up, shoots another beam, goes back the three o'clock, shoots another beam, and then the thing tumbles out of the sky and the commanders say, you know, were you guys screwing around up there?

1:01:21 Speaker 1: No, sir, I think we have a UFO. You've been sworn to secrecy, right, Yeah.

1:01:26 Speaker 2: So I've been here forever and many If you actually look at space X footage is just launching, you'll see the sphere is flying around.

1:01:34 Speaker 1: I've seen a couple videos of that like of because I like to con through that kind of stuff and see if I can see anything, because they're just streaming like they're not looking for UFOs, but someone who like us, we we're watching it, but we're also watching the backgrounds and what's flying in the back, right, So yeah, it's definitely I think a good, good territory. They have another launch coming up or they just did.

1:02:02 Speaker 2: Right, I think.

1:02:02 Speaker 3: I think it's coming up soon, and it's going to be.

1:02:05 Speaker 1: At the big Starship one. I know one just did go out. That was just bringing some people to the ISS, So I wonder if there's anything from that footage. But this is a common commonality. This is a common formation, and it's interesting to hear that. You say it's an advanced but it's also been here a long time. I mean, do you think this is possibly from a civilization likes what Plato is talking about in Atlantis or you know, Cogno.

1:02:35 Speaker 2: All you can say is, technically speaking, the network is ground based, meaning it is controlled from the ground up, which means that the infrastructure that controls this and deploys this and builds this is either underground or on the bottom of the ocean or under the ocean, those kind of areas.

1:02:50 Speaker 1: Do you think it is human controlled or do you think it is controlled by something else.

1:02:56 Speaker 2: It's controlled by a second species and this is an this is an AI based network. This the CYR network models out to be a hypersonic defense network which is AI based.

1:03:06 Speaker 3: But there will be there will.

1:03:07 Speaker 2: Be interaction with it along the path, so that there's probably people controlling it at some points.

1:03:17 Speaker 1: And that makes sense that if there was an advanced species that was cohabitating and you know, it has maybe let us think that we are the dominant species and they just let us have the top, right, Okay, you guys are just you know, you can have whatever we've transcend. This is where we live in the oceans, or like you said, it could be underground as well, like I think the oceans is probably probably more likely, but maybe a mix of both as well. Yeah. Yeah, so you know these things coming out of the ocean that our pilots are, our navy is seen.

1:03:58 Speaker 1: Even members like Timber have talked about that. There's several bases, and Richard Dolan has a great book about USOS dating back to like you know, eighteen, it's even further back, I believe. So these are these lights in the sky like being the lights in the sky have been seen for a very long time, probably longer than humans have existed. So if that is the question, if that's the truth, then it is from another civilization. And you're saying that that civilization is maybe the Grays or whatever we're seeing.

1:04:34 Speaker 2: Well, all you can say it must prelate humans, because because the the v formations have been referenced in many religious symmetry.

1:04:46 Speaker 1: They are they very much are. We love to talk about that in a minute. But did you see that Obama video?

1:04:56 Speaker 4: Uh?

1:04:56 Speaker 1: No, no, you didn't see the Obama video. No, you pull that up? Can you pull up the Obama video? Oh my god, you haven't seen this yet. Ben, So while she does that, I'll explain it. But Obama was on this podcast and it was Brian Tyler or Brian Cohen Tyler Cohen. It's this thing if you just open X, cancel that O one sack, come on the don't like that. It makes me do this. It's a very annoying the screen share aspect. When we're both sharing the screen. It makes it so janky.

1:06:06 Speaker 4: All right, Uh, they're really, but I haven't seen him and they're not being kept in the effect you want.

1:06:18 Speaker 3: There's no underground. So unless there's this enormous.

1:06:24 Speaker 4: Conspiracy and they hit it from the President of.

1:06:27 Speaker 3: The United States.

1:06:28 Speaker 2: What was the first question you wanted answered when you became president?

1:06:33 Speaker 3: Uh? Worthy are aliens?

1:06:37 Speaker 1: Uh? Oh my god? Can you add this to the stage please?

1:06:46 Speaker 4: There's no underground?

1:06:47 Speaker 1: All right, take this out. There's enormous ridiculous and.

1:06:54 Speaker 4: The United States?

1:06:55 Speaker 7: What was the first aliens?

1:06:57 Speaker 1: Can you hear this? You can hear it? Yeah, Okay, it's playing over my speakers and I don't know why, so it's making me think we can't hear it. But all right, ready, so he's on the Brian Tyler com Alien Comment podcast.

1:07:14 Speaker 4: They're real, but I haven't seen them and and and they're not being kept in uh fifty one.

1:07:21 Speaker 1: There's no undergrad This is just a president, former active president.

1:07:26 Speaker 4: This more misconspiracy and they hit it from the President of the United States.

1:07:31 Speaker 7: What was the first question you wanted answered when you became.

1:07:35 Speaker 1: How is this? Not?

1:07:37 Speaker 3: Where are the aliens?

1:07:38 Speaker 1: The aliens? Okay, but yeah, there's just form. You know, casually, a former president, very active president that you know, just was asked, playing and simple do aliens exist? And he casually says yes with very little follow up. I don't know why that host. I would have so many follow up questions if a president of very sound mind like Obama was sitting in front of me, I would have so much that needed to be asked. But I don't know, maybe that's not how it works with presidents and interviews. But anyway, you haven't seen that that.

1:08:25 Speaker 1: I mean, that is what arguably argue you could argue that all the UFO people. You know, it wasn't like a president walking up to the podium and saying, my fellow Americans were not alone. But it was a like former president's very again still very very active and very very intelligent saying aliens exist, and he's saying it affirmatively. He's also the president that said Area fifty one first publicly when they needed to expand the land. So this guy is, I mean, why is this not a disclosure pinch point?

1:09:08 Speaker 3: I don't know.

1:09:09 Speaker 1: It's wild to me. I just don't understand. But you can get to you. I'm sorry.

1:09:14 Speaker 2: So in I see, what we do is replication to prove our point. So here what you're looking at is still from a video of the Type one V formation and the Type two are coming online. This has actually taken off the UK coast a few months ago. And you can see the Type one V formation right here and the Type two at the back. And what it does is will come online and swoop up was like this and start looking upwards so that.

1:09:40 Speaker 1: It's something's above it is what you're saying.

1:09:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

1:09:44 Speaker 2: And then here this example here is from nineteen seventy one in Canada, and here you have the Type two right here, and then you have the Type one V formation here. But this one here is in the horizontal configuration, so it's doing a vertical scan.

1:09:59 Speaker 1: Stra other vertical scan so something. So do you think that one's protecting something in the mountain? Maybe?

1:10:06 Speaker 2: Well, they they are seen commonly around mountains, so it's finally lightly that there's infrastructure built within them.

1:10:12 Speaker 1: Within the mountain. It is protecting that infrastructure. That would make a lot of sense. We you know a lot of sightings like that, like you said, a lot of mountain sightings.

1:10:21 Speaker 2: So here's an example. This is over I think this is over Florida. You have the Type two. This is just above a house. You have the Type two and you have the Type one V formation here and according to the mass it means that the target is one o'clock.

1:10:36 Speaker 3: Here's another one.

1:10:37 Speaker 2: You've got the type two here, Type one V formation, and this here is the target that is tracking.

1:10:43 Speaker 3: Now.

1:10:44 Speaker 2: The thing is, this is all happening at hypersonic speeds, so it's all over the place, but when you getually get the picture of it, you can see the formation still remain. Here's this one here is actually off a ship.

1:10:55 Speaker 3: Again.

1:10:55 Speaker 2: You have the type one V formation at the front, Type two at the back, and this formation. The target is three o'clock. This one here was taken over in Barcelona, Spain. You have the type two and then it's daisy chaining onto another Type two which is then pointing up to Type one V formation and conceived or a line through it. The target is at one o'clock. Wow, This one here is multiple examples from all over the world. So this is all different people different times. You know, they're all seeing the same formations setting.

1:11:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, different locations geographically, but all seeing similar and the same thing.

1:11:33 Speaker 3: It's the same process. Yeah.

1:11:35 Speaker 2: So you have the type two. Here's the V formation right here. You have the two type twos one here and one here, and you've got the V formation right here, Type two, the V formation here, Type two type one V formation, type two, type one V formation, type two, type one V formation, type two and other type two type one V formation, and so forth, and the same with this one and this one as well. So it's I always say, it's pretty obvious.

1:12:02 Speaker 3: The process is there, it keeps replicating, and this is all.

1:12:07 Speaker 1: But this is all. All of what we're seeing right here is under under the guy, like under the barrier of this is in atmosphere, you know, below eight thousand feet in our sky, right in our skies directly. Okay, Well I saw what we're about to get to. That's why this one here.

1:12:31 Speaker 2: Yeah. So the question is is there any evidence of these things taking out objects in space or in the sky. And the entry is yes. So I'll send you a link.

1:12:45 Speaker 2: Oh all right, let me share my.

1:12:49 Speaker 1: Screen because she can just add that.

1:12:54 Speaker 3: Well, actually I can.

1:12:55 Speaker 1: You can just switch the tab that it's.

1:13:00 Speaker 8: Yeah, I can't see a video file, so I can't. Yeah, it's a pretty cool feature, say if you're okay, So.

1:13:16 Speaker 7: I don't know if you can see that, but there's something orbiting that planet over there. I don't know if you can see that, but there's something orbiting that planet over there.

1:13:27 Speaker 2: See it okay, so that's the the spheares coming in. Look at it through.

1:13:37 Speaker 7: What's going on here?

1:13:38 Speaker 1: What that's weird? Ten inch light bridge made by med.

1:13:46 Speaker 7: I'm going to be filming that planet just right there.

1:13:51 Speaker 3: Okay, check this out. I've never seen this planet.

1:13:55 Speaker 7: Surprised my phone's doing this, but check this out?

1:14:03 Speaker 3: What if you pause it there? You pose it there?

1:14:08 Speaker 2: Something just sorry, So if you back up a little bit, you can see the V formations.

1:14:16 Speaker 3: I'm gonna let it play right there. See the V formations?

1:14:24 Speaker 1: I do. I do see the V formation.

1:14:29 Speaker 2: So there is that's the type one series in V formation, the horizontal configuration where the target easier above or below it's vertical.

1:14:39 Speaker 1: What what am I looking at here?

1:14:43 Speaker 3: You're looking at UAP being intercepted up in the episode.

1:14:48 Speaker 1: So this again, if you're listening to a podcast platform, you're missing half the picture here with this one. And I really highly suggest something watching. So that big the thing that looks like it kind of is exploded is a UAP.

1:15:06 Speaker 3: That's correct, It's just it's.

1:15:08 Speaker 1: Just kind of okay. Oh you're zooming in. This is amazing, perfect timing. Oh my god, what is that? And I see the V formation or the triangular formation, the relay. What in the world.

1:15:30 Speaker 2: So the thing is is that this is actually fairly common.

1:15:33 Speaker 3: Let me show you. Let me just upload this to your system. There you go.

1:15:51 Speaker 2: So what I do I am. I look up in the night sky. I have like a special night vision camera and I can look up in the sky. And what you see is these flashes deep in space. And these are not planes. These are real deep in space. You can't even see them with the naked eye. And if you watch, you can see what's happening. You see these flashes, see it bink bing thing. And also movement up here as well, you see it. Yeah, they're exploding.

1:16:23 Speaker 3: What they are the explosions?

1:16:26 Speaker 1: Those are explosions.

1:16:27 Speaker 3: Yeah.

1:16:28 Speaker 2: And also here what if you people have misidentified as natural star patterns are not quite right? If you look here, you can see the v formations. There's one here, there's one here, and there's one here, and there's one here. The CYR network. If you look up in the night sky and look for for equilateral triangles of equal brightness, you'll notice them everywhere.

1:16:53 Speaker 3: So is literally above your head right now.

1:16:57 Speaker 1: And that's exactly again, it's it's what you're proposing here is that this thing is everywhere.

1:17:01 Speaker 2: It is everywhere, and these flashes are explosions of objects coming in, so they're moving here as well.

1:17:10 Speaker 3: Moving.

1:17:11 Speaker 1: I do see the moving and I see the flashes. Yeah, this is Did you see the multiple colors or maybe I am a little colorblind so it could have been meaning mistaking it.

1:17:24 Speaker 2: But their explosions in space, and you can tell that they are because they're not in the same spot. But it's actually a cluster of objects being destroyed all at once.

1:17:38 Speaker 1: So, you know, I think a lot of people would you know, when they hear about this, they they they may even think back to the Reagan administration and and the idea of the Star Wars Initiative SDI, and you know, I just this seems like like that on like you know, obviously way way upgraded and way way more advanced. But you know, this is this is like something out of it like we would imagine a science fiction novel.

1:18:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what what it really is is that the nice sky is full of engineering. It's just that it's so it's so massive that people just don't recognize it and they kind of just blindside it. And this is what I think that you know, you know at the Vasco project.

1:18:32 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes.

1:18:34 Speaker 3: With the transience that are appearing and disappearing.

1:18:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is what I think the V I think it's that the V formation is doing that.

1:18:42 Speaker 1: Oh wow, if you guys work together on like, you might actually get some data here, some real interesting tangible stuff. And that's this is what you afhology needs, is you know it. We we've been looking at it through so many scattered lenses and this is something that seems to be you know, there's some data and evidence to back it up. Like, this is something that we can start with. We can we can take and we can show it and we can start you know, explaining, Hey, this is what we think is happening here.

1:19:16 Speaker 1: And it kind of connects the dots, no pun intended, but it connects to dots with this idea of an ancient civilization. Right, every civilization has talked about some sort of advanced species being here on Earth with us, right, and then sometimes they even come and they protect us from cataclysms or they reteach us after a cataclysm, and they always tell us they'll return, they'll return, And it's what if they never left? What if the hope you are talking the ant people, right, that come from underground.

1:19:56 Speaker 1: Maybe that's just a metaphor, that's the only language they had to tell us. That story is people came from They're not actual ants, right, but maybe they had features that were different than ours and they just you know, put that again. I think language is very interesting in that sense. But cultures from all over the world talk about this, whether whether it's quetsa quattle, whether it's Osiris and Isis, whether it's you know zeus, like these gods, these myths, these legends, they're all talking about the same thing, this other species that's here with us.

1:20:38 Speaker 1: It doesn't always have our best interest at heart, but it doesn't. It's not it's not malevolent. It maybe indifferent.

1:20:47 Speaker 2: I would say something different, because from what I can tell, they are so far advanced of us that we are pretty much just maybe one not from primates.

1:20:55 Speaker 1: But we also have thermonuclear weapons. I mean, yeah, so I think a bit maybe above that's that, but not too far above it, not as nearly where we should be, given pure in technological advancement on our side.

1:21:12 Speaker 2: So what we're really seeing is the same sort of relationship that we have with primates. So now and again humans will go into the woods or the forest and engage with primates.

1:21:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think about like abductions and stuff. Do you think that's bullshit?

1:21:28 Speaker 3: No?

1:21:28 Speaker 2: No, The only way that can be done is through the network, which means it's the auto thresholds doing it.

1:21:35 Speaker 1: Holy shit.

1:21:37 Speaker 2: So it is then, yeah, this is how it. Johnny models that you have the type threes that operating loads of the ground and in buildings, praying like a dynamite network, which is a line of sight which spans across the countries. When they need to, they will really up to type twos, which are affected by the data relays. I take a low energy signal to boost it to a heih energy signal that we're then to to the type one V formation which is then doing trilateration to target.

1:22:04 Speaker 3: Objects coming in from space.

1:22:06 Speaker 2: On targeting they then destroy and what intercept and destroy income and space based threats. So here's this is where it gets a bit crazy. So this is a picture of the type two S daisy chaining up and up above the clouds. Now you notice the spacing, and you notice the general size and so forth.

1:22:27 Speaker 3: Right, this is.

1:22:29 Speaker 2: An inversive image of the night sky above my house, and what you see is the same patterns. So you have four what we think of stars, or say we are stars, but they're not stars. We have four objects, so equal distance a part of equal size, which then linked to a V formation right here, and now you have another V formation here here, here, here, here, and here and here. So what we have what we think are actually occurring stars in the sky and actually is actually a mesh of these formations around the earth.

1:23:08 Speaker 1: This is insanity. It's just right in your face.

1:23:12 Speaker 3: It's in your face, and it's it's.

1:23:16 Speaker 1: Hidden in plain sight.

1:23:18 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

1:23:20 Speaker 2: The the primate example is pretty good because in the same way as say, the primates will see the US Air Force flying over the jungles and their helicopters and in their in their planes, they will look at it and then go back to eating their banana because they can't reference it. They don't know what it is and reference it. They literally don't see it. Their their mindset will filter out what they're looking at, right, And it's the same for humans. We will look at thin things and what we don't quite know or whatever.

1:23:49 Speaker 2: We will filter that information out as well. Yeah, and the brain is really good at filtering information out from from it's trying to keep us happy, so you will filter out information. Yeah, and I think that's why have such a rough time as well, because their brain is just configured in a way that filters a lot of information out, so they can't actually even if you put them the raw data in front of them, they cannot see it.

1:24:14 Speaker 1: Right.

1:24:15 Speaker 2: And equally, when you look at the night sky, what we think as stars is in fact reoccurring patterns that are artificial. So the sphere of the formation are so highly distinctive that in fact it can be used as what we call a unique identifier. A similar sphere patterns have been documented repeating both in modern daily videos and historical black.

1:24:38 Speaker 3: And white photographs. So you ask yourself, like, what is.

1:24:41 Speaker 2: The mathematical chance of three random stars or objects of the same size and brightness creating equalateral triangles in the sky moving is one in sync across the cross the night sky? And when you do the mass on it's one times ten to the minus six percent, which is less than zero.

1:25:00 Speaker 1: Wow.

1:25:01 Speaker 2: If the brightness match is one times ten to the minus five percent, the synchronization match is one times ten to the minus twenty six percent. So in other words, there is absolutely no way that these triangles that you're seeing in the sky or in the night sky in space are naturally.

1:25:20 Speaker 1: Occurring, right, And you know, the astronauts have talked about how they were trailed to the moon, you know, in the Apollo days. Other astronauts have talked you know, I've talked about this as well, you know, from other space, like the Russian side and the Chinese people. The Chinese side, I think they they had a really dramatic encounter, and you know, it's just I wonder. I wonder, so again, if this is connecting us, if this is some sort of advanced AI like things like the Booga sphere, do you think that's like bullshit?

1:26:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, like trying.

1:26:01 Speaker 1: To muddy the water or like replicate what the people are actually seeing. So it makes it seem like it has some credence.

1:26:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, the book is series.

1:26:10 Speaker 1: Okay, it kind of felt like that to me. It just seems odd, but it seems like these Do you think it might be deliberately done to muddy the waters on this?

1:26:21 Speaker 2: I have no idea, but it doesn't be some money behind it, so I don't know.

1:26:26 Speaker 1: Well, by me, Mussan's involved, which means it's it's absolutely being you know, funded to a degree, right, like there's entertainment to it, you know, to the to the to the whole thing, which is very uncomfortable. So, you know, what, are are there any cases that you can think of that you know that you think this formation can add a layer of explanation if you will. Is there a case that you look at and you go, oh, this is this is exactly what I'm talking about, you know, it's this is this is very clearly the sphere network at work.

1:27:11 Speaker 3: Yeah.

1:27:11 Speaker 2: So when it comes to UFOs crashing, what you're already seeing is so you have like an advanced aerospace vehicle that suddenly flies all this way to Earth and then it crashes. It doesn't make any sense, right, So the only way you can intercept a highly advanced object or craft is through equally advanced, if not more so advanced technology. So that that is why all the crafts that have come down or have been retrieved have been retrieved have been disabled by this steer network.

1:27:44 Speaker 6: Right.

1:27:45 Speaker 2: Also there's also an extraction process as well. So in the book, there's actually a picture of the tic TAC, which is about half the size of a.

1:27:55 Speaker 3: Of a commercial jet and.

1:27:57 Speaker 2: What that does. That will drop down to the ocean level and it will extract outcraft that are have down into the ocean and then they'll extract them out. It's used the thing for quantum looking, which means it it can look on like a magnet and then it will just put it out and then fly off.

1:28:13 Speaker 1: So do you think that that is what that that? You know? Fraverer said that he had seen something under the water that was, you know, causing this white white cap turning, you know, when the water becomes like the white cap. And he said it was a very calm day that not a lot of waves. It was a very calm, calm day, and this tick tack was dropping like what Kevin Day says and all the radar guys says from you know, at least you know, the the cap was about eighty thousand feet, right, and that's the difference of space and you know our atmosphere.

1:28:51 Speaker 1: So these things are dropping from eighty thousand feet down to sea level in less than a second, which is you know, medically, it just blows them by brain even thinking about it. But then there was again Fever intercepted it and he saw that there was this thing underwater. You think it was trying to retrieve it.

1:29:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, because so how it works is like all the low tech stuff gets taken out from a long way away. So all the low tech crofts that are coming in will be intercepted early, while the high tech ones, the ones that can navigate through the surveillance network, like stealth aircraft, they will be retrieved for reverse engineering and analysisse once you figure out how they breached the network, they have to then adapt the network and tighten it up. So what you're observing is a typical, you know, a technology race, just like our own weapons systems.

1:29:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, where does that leave? Where does that leave right now? I mean, because are we getting Do you think that the US military has reverse engineered UFO material?

1:29:57 Speaker 3: I have no idea. I have no idea.

1:29:59 Speaker 2: It might be so far ahead that they can't somebody can't in a way that they might be able to take some basic inspiration from it. I mean, there's there's more than one way to skin a cat, so they might they might be able to take certain, you know, principles of how it works and then kind of replicate it on a on another scale, basically a different scale. But it's hard to say, but all I can say is is that the ones that we see, that the craft that are kind of getting through the network and we're actually seeing in the night in the sky, they're the more advanced ones.

1:30:32 Speaker 2: So they are generally disabled and retrieved and then.

1:30:35 Speaker 1: They are figure.

1:30:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is why.

1:30:39 Speaker 2: I mean, there was a case recently of something landing in the back of a yard in Las Vegas in their house. Yeah, and they said they saw these two big guys standing there, but then they all disappeared. So what happened, well, is because it's extracted out and you can't you cannot fly an object that's crashed.

1:30:59 Speaker 3: It doesn't work.

1:31:00 Speaker 2: So it means that tic TAC would have come in and pulled it up and extracted it out super fast. And that's that's that's why we haven't got these objects laying all over the country what we are finding though. But what we are finding though is because these objects have been taken out and up in high orbit, up in space, all the debris molten metal is going into our oceans. So you'll find that there are scientists out there or the philobe who are extracting this for research and profit.

1:31:30 Speaker 1: Mmmm. Well, the network's been active for forever, right, so Vatican artifacts and pyramid engineering, ancient texts, what's the oldest evidence that you've linked back to that it suggests it's crypto terrestrial, old terrestrial or you know, like I said that in Ai left by you know, a long gone civilization.

1:31:55 Speaker 2: So the Type threes are responsible for polyguise activity, the same behavior patterns today as it was five hundred years ago or a thousand years ago. So what you have to do is look up the very first recorded instance of poly Guy's activity and it actually goes back to the second century.

1:32:15 Speaker 1: The second century. Huh, and you've linked it back that far. Yeah, And with this, how is there a certain story or.

1:32:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's stories ago, there's stories and that there's stories that go back to the second century which have been translated over the years to talk about poly Guy's activity occurring.

1:32:40 Speaker 3: So if if, if, if.

1:32:45 Speaker 2: The network was, if the Type threes were there, they would have been doing this type of activity. But it also kind of models out the humans actually play a role in this defense network itself. You see, if you look at it logically, what you have you have the sphere network which is up up in space and then you have one what's in the atmosphere. So what you have you have first, second, and third layer layer of defense. And so what does that make humans? Well, it makes humans the third layer of defense.

1:33:16 Speaker 2: We are the surf of the private army that's on the surface of the planet. So if anything crashes on the Earth, we deal with it, We mop it up, right. I think we're like the third line defense.

1:33:28 Speaker 1: So where do the integrated happenstance? Third line of defense?

1:33:33 Speaker 2: Well, originally I think it was the job of the dinosaurs, because if you want a real hard line of defense, third line of defense, you use animals because if you crash landed on dinosaur, you know earth back, then you wouldn't last twenty four hours because it's because of the animals of the time.

1:33:49 Speaker 1: That is very interesting.

1:33:52 Speaker 2: But it's highly likely due to their animalistic nature. They were probably hunting down the altraterrestials as well. Then they've got out of control.

1:33:59 Speaker 1: Well the sake do you think that they cause that reset?

1:34:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that they got rid of the the dinosaurs and we had a replacement. So it's like the dinosaurs probably got out of control because of our animalistic nature, while humans are more rational, so we can be scared, so they use they use scarecrow actions to move us away from these emissions. But at the same time, it's something crashed lands on the earth. We are the ones who will group up and in groups and attack, and that's what we do. That's what we do. We I think That's why it's like, if you look at like what humans are supposed to be, it is like we are a hybrid between something else and a primate.

1:34:46 Speaker 2: So why would you mix the DNA with a primate? Is because you want it to be big and.

1:34:49 Speaker 3: Strong exactly, and aggressive.

1:34:52 Speaker 1: Why would you need it to be big, strong, and aggressive?

1:34:55 Speaker 3: That's right.

1:34:55 Speaker 2: So what they've effectively created is an intelligent.

1:35:00 Speaker 1: Working killing machine multi use.

1:35:04 Speaker 3: Yeah.

1:35:04 Speaker 2: And if you if you think about it, it's like, well, what's the primary skill set of humanity?

1:35:09 Speaker 1: Create? Create, and kill? Yeah ah yeah, yeah, to give and take, right, there's the give and take.

1:35:16 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if you look at the whole planet as a skill set, doesn't matter if you're IQ level. They all have one thing in common. They're all very good at killing. And that's that's what appears to be our main skill set. And when you look at when you look at things in black and white.

1:35:31 Speaker 3: It kind of does make sense.

1:35:33 Speaker 2: We're the we're effectively the private army of ultraterrestrial intelligence that lives on the ground.

1:35:39 Speaker 1: And do you think that that story of like say the Anunaki, right, do you think that that is maybe this ultraterrestrial species telling us fables to kind of like give us inspiration. And you know, but that's kind of where the story every good you know, story or disinformation as a piece of truth. So, right, they did create us, but they're not from somewhere else like they're they're not gods who descend there there, they live here as well.

1:36:11 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we were probably create it to perform certain roles and tasks.

1:36:17 Speaker 1: But there's definitely like, at least in my opinion, I feel like there's this thing inside of us just as much as that there is to kill. It's like our wont to have faith in something like higher than ourselves, right. And I don't know if this comes with evolution over time or if it's something that's always there, but we have this want to believe, you know, in something. I feel like, if why would they turn that on specifically, right, because it seems like a defect if you will if you wanted just a pure worker like killing, like why turn that on?

1:36:58 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you break it down, drill basics like dogs take a take a rock viler trained, you know, an aggressive dog, but it can also love children absolutely, so it can, it can, it can. As I said, it appears that we are created for a role, and what is going to happen really is But what what's happening is that the reason why there's no direct engagement is the same reason why that we don't directly engage with primates. So if the average primemate could not process or operate within the human domain, okay, so it's not as if you can give them a job or anything.

1:37:31 Speaker 1: They still find ways to do that, Patrick.

1:37:36 Speaker 2: But not really, you know, properly. So the only way ford really is to increase the IQ level of human beings, and you do that through AI. So that the right now what we're seeing is AI is going to start taking everyone's jobs, slowly but surely is going to start doing it. And robots will take over the labor jobs. Well, the AI will take over the lot the other jobs.

1:38:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, that the basic like customer service based interacting job.

1:38:08 Speaker 2: You ask yourself like Okay, well, what's the future because you cannot, you cannot compete with.

1:38:14 Speaker 1: That universal basic.

1:38:17 Speaker 2: Already, I think Rock Heavy can outperform scholars on subjects it hasn't even studied.

1:38:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, or laryers in the bar.

1:38:29 Speaker 3: You cannot, You cannot.

1:38:31 Speaker 2: To think that we can compete with AI is just foolish. The only way that we're going to move forward in the next fifty years onwards is diffuse that AI, so we will have. What we'll have is we'll have an implant in our brain, our skull thanctifully neural link or a system like it, which will allow a high bandwidth the connection to AI, and that will bring everyone up to an IQ level of two hundred two hundred and fifty. And at that point that we will become interesting. At that point we will probably be on the same level playing field as his alter Treashials And at that point the door will open.

1:39:12 Speaker 2: You See, it doesn't matter if if if the primates in the jungle started banging on the door of humanity saying let us in. We see you all the time, we want to know what you would, what you do and stuff. It's not going to open, right because no one's interested.

1:39:25 Speaker 1: Nothing not until they not until they you know, sit around a fire, until you know it's daring on on cave walls. Are we going to notice?

1:39:37 Speaker 2: So unless But if if there was a primary out there that suddenly had an IQ of say one hundred or ninety, everyone will want to know.

1:39:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, we would, we would. Absolutely.

1:39:47 Speaker 2: You're now on the same playing field, you know, yes, yes you're not. You're operating at the same level. So the same thing will happen with the alter trescials if the if their IQ level is say two hundred to fifty, but they the door. It will not open until we reach those standards.

1:40:04 Speaker 1: But then again, what happens What happens then when there's no more third line of defense?

1:40:11 Speaker 2: No, we'll probably still have our same role. It's just we'll be much better at it.

1:40:15 Speaker 3: Okay by then the.

1:40:17 Speaker 2: Future, the future of humans is actually quite interesting. So with the AI connection, to increase the IQ levels, you then have nanotechnology such as nanobots. So then you just drink every morning. You drink like like a health drink, but it's full of narobots. And you initially build your body. You will build you a body like athlete, like an mm A fighter and you won't even have to go to the gym. You'll just build it all for you. So you'll have a body of of a of a unlicitia, of a king, and you will have an IQ level of a of a machine.

1:40:53 Speaker 2: So if you if you think about it, that's the perfect third line of defense.

1:40:58 Speaker 3: Is your networks, your high IQ.

1:40:59 Speaker 2: You're you are a very smart but equally a very dangerous individual.

1:41:06 Speaker 1: Gosh, And you know, I think one of the things that really really opened or at least struck me was the paranormal stuff, the the that revelation. So the paranormal tie in is explosive. I think, like I said, hauntings as network maintenance mode. If you know, if that is something that is genuine. I mean, this reframes pretty much, you know, everything that we thought about places like skin Walker or hassled in lights, even psychic you know phenomena. How does this shift the conversation from aliens to the Earth operating systems EOS and what happens when the public wakes up to orbs in their backyard.

1:41:55 Speaker 2: Well, the thing is is that, as as I said in the beginning, that Gary Nolan said as well, the disclosure is an IQ issue.

1:42:04 Speaker 3: Or IQ test.

1:42:05 Speaker 2: People who get it will see the patterns and see the relationships and just accept it, and other people who won't, the more reactive people will just reject it. And that's really the safest way forward. People generally react badly when governments tell them things. So COVID was a good example when they talk about COVID and lockdowns, so you couldn't buy you know, hot dogs or anything in the shops, or the toilet toward the toilet rolls are all gone as well, because people just do crazy stuff. So really the truth is is that only really the West, like the United States and maybe a bit of England or UK.

1:42:41 Speaker 2: I really want disclosure. It's only the western countries. It's not I mean, the Arab countries don't want it, they don't care ya. The African countries aren't interested, you know, and that's a.

1:42:51 Speaker 3: Huge chunk of the planet.

1:42:53 Speaker 2: And the Indian country, you know, the Asian countries aren't they interested in either. It's only really the western countries. So yeah, it's a case of once once you see the patterns and relationships, you will say okay, yeah, makes sense, move on.

1:43:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's it.

1:43:15 Speaker 1: If the IF the sphere network is Earth's guardian AI. What does that say about us as a species? Do you think that we are ready for this level of disclosure or do you think that, you know, the sky may be about to force our hand as we technologically you know again peak.

1:43:39 Speaker 2: So it's a it's a tough question because the network it appears to be a lot more busy these days than it was ten years ago, which means that we've probably attracted the attention of someone or something and it's it's now coming to the planet. If you if I say our side during during the night, and you know, on a clear night, you see a lot of these flashes quite frequently in the night sky. So it appears that these interceptions are occurring quite frequently. And in fact, if you monster the activity in the in the houses when they start broadcasting the signals around it generally activates it every other day or every at least every three days, which means that there is something coming into our atmosphere every every other day, every.

1:44:24 Speaker 1: Three days at a minimum minimum.

1:44:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, So there could be a case of where the because our our own electronic emissions are going into space further and further. The more people are we have become more and more detectable every time, and then more traffic will come this way. Interesting, So if you look at the if you look at the reason, like why would why would like an alterterrestial group? Why would they want to live underground where it's because you can control all the emissions. You become invisible. You know, you're not sending out microwaves or radiation or light waves or anything.

1:45:01 Speaker 2: You're you're very much hidden using natural infrastructure while we're on the surface of the earth building with shiny buildings, you see. So is it just a matter of time. I think it's just a matter of time until an event will occur that will forced force its hand.

1:45:22 Speaker 3: Where some something will happen.

1:45:23 Speaker 2: So like maybe let's say fifty ships or one hundred ships or a thousand ships all hit the defense network at once, and let's say three got through. And let's say each one of those ships were were massive, Let's say the size of of Eiffel Tower or you know, or something like that, or twin down or not twin towers, you know, big. Yeah, And let's say something happens, maybe a big chunk of the population will go missing overnight,

1:45:58 Speaker 2: and that you.

1:45:59 Speaker 3: Know it, there's a.

1:46:01 Speaker 2: There's there's an issue with genetics that no one really talks about, and it's called synergy. So what that means is is that you know, when you have small populations in remote areas having children and children and children, and what happens they will become low IQ and handicapped. Yeah, because the DNA pol is too small.

1:46:21 Speaker 1: Too small. Yeah, you're you're inevitably you're going to be. It's almost like incestual at some point. That's right, you can't, you can't avoid it.

1:46:30 Speaker 2: But the problem is is that one day the whole planet will have the same problem. It's just mathematics and time because the DNA pol is only so big.

1:46:39 Speaker 1: That's I didn't even look at something like that.

1:46:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the truth. And the thing is is, I mean I'm not talking about ten years. I'm talking maybe a few millionaeres.

1:46:49 Speaker 1: Right right, right, right right, naturally.

1:46:51 Speaker 3: I mean already there are colt seeing it, yeah, seeing.

1:46:55 Speaker 2: This already, like there are cultures around the planet around yet that are they have to have DNA tests before they have children because to check if it's more going to be more handicapped than not.

1:47:06 Speaker 3: It's what the.

1:47:07 Speaker 1: Risks are and I think we're probably headed towards a future that involves being able to gene edit and selectively edit the gene pool, at least for our side. I think that, like you know, Crisper and these technologies that are very frowned upon today, once AI is like I don't know, even rooted its way further into our set, you know, day to day and society, I think that there's no again, there's just no telling, like what you said drinking nanobots right, Like it's going to be a very different place in a few years.

1:47:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, if there was a if there was a if there was an event, let's say three three crafts got through and a huge folk of the population was missing overnight,

1:47:57 Speaker 2: that's a good chance because, as I said, there's an an you in DNA with synergy. So what you might have is another group that is suffering from these issues. And the only way that you can expand the life of your own species, of your own group is by inserting these new DNA, these new genetics into your group. So the only way you can do that is by going to somewhere else and extracting it. So DNA might be the primary reason why other groups want to come here, because if you want, if you want natural resources such as you know, metals, certain metals like titanium or gold or silver.

1:48:34 Speaker 2: And you hear, you know, like these stories of like they came here to mine the gold and all that stuff. But that's crap because the fact is that there's meteorites out there with more gold.

1:48:45 Speaker 3: That's entire planet.

1:48:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's no and that's easy because there's no one there. You know, you can just go and stick a drill in it and get as much as you want.

1:48:54 Speaker 1: We're talking about this now.

1:48:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's no reason to come to worse for material resources. It's just genetic resource. But that's the only reason.

1:49:03 Speaker 1: You think it's a biological reason. That's very interesting, very interesting, you know, for the the skeptics out there that say, because we have I have a couple more questions then we'll wrap for For for critics that say that these are just stars or balloons or starlink, I feel I got to address it. You've got retired US Air Force pilots and academics, you know, nodding along, and even Ross colts are it's warming up to the idea. How do you dismantle the mundane explanations, especially when your predictions like sphears escorting jellyfish, u A.

1:49:41 Speaker 2: P keep iting well regarding the stars in the sky, for example. All the all that is is we have a data set.

1:49:48 Speaker 3: That's what it is. We have a data set.

1:49:50 Speaker 2: That we have labeled and we have then written books about it and said oh, that's this this name, and that's this name and so forth. Doesn't mean that it's correct. So that's what I mean is that when when these skeptics, they all they do is they look at a book from the someone's written and said, oh, that is this form this is this consolation, all that or it or so forth. But that's just the data set. It's just a labeled data set. But it may be completely incorrect. All I can say is mathematically, you cannot get these formations naturally, and that's provable by math.

1:50:21 Speaker 2: So they have math to deal with. Go debunk math.

1:50:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, usually math is pretty universally sound.

1:50:28 Speaker 2: And that's the same with the formations. The spheres are replicating, keep reproducing. They're doing trilateration, which is a high high resolutions ree D tracking in space, and you can do it by the math. And if you get my my diagram and put it through rock heavy that can pretty much help brain Every professor out there, he will agree with it. So I'm happy to give that diagram to anyone, any scientific any anyone, any professor and say they go deal with it.

1:50:56 Speaker 3: You bank it, he won't. That's it.

1:50:59 Speaker 1: This is it. This has really been interesting and it's opened my eyes in a way. One last thing, do you think that there's something to the idea of the you know, people are talking about this twenty these prediction dates right, twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven. Do you think that anything like that is actually possible? Do you think humans know enough to even disclose? Like, because what you're talking about is true, It's like how much how much does our government really know?

1:51:40 Speaker 3: I don't know.

1:51:40 Speaker 2: It's hard to sell, right, but I mean, especially in the Europe, the behavior of what's the go going in Europe is very very strange, doesn't make any logical.

1:51:50 Speaker 1: Sense, right, Yeah, this is it baffles me because if this is yeah, this is quite different, but it's different in a good way. What's next for you? And where can people find you? How can people stay up date with you? Know, what you're doing and where you're doing it?

1:52:10 Speaker 2: I'm predominantly on X I use that all the time. I'm actually I'm more concentrating on the data than anything. I'm speaking to scientists behind you know, behind the scenes, and there's a lot more going on behind the scenes I than.

1:52:24 Speaker 3: I make public. But I'll give you a clue.

1:52:27 Speaker 2: So one question someone gave me recently was, I said, as type threes are in the building, right, determine the difference between them and dust flying around, just random dust on infrared. Because if you if you look at infrared cameras with a dusty room, you'll see these what looked to be big alps flying around, but it's actually just a reflection of dust. And the answer to that is because we figured out a way to electronically track these objects in buildings passively, which completely filters dust completely.

1:52:55 Speaker 2: We already have the data on how the methods on how to track these objects from real time around building.

1:53:00 Speaker 1: So is there, what what what? What experiment can anyone do right now tonight to see try to see similar things or or uh look garner their own little picture of it.

1:53:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I made a dog whistle. I coded my own dog whistle, which which I use quite frequently, and you can buy it on you can get it on Google Plane and.

1:53:26 Speaker 3: It's called the Q coat.

1:53:27 Speaker 2: And what you do if you put on your phone, you put your phone to flight mode and you get some senses for example like EMF sensors, or you even get like these like catball things that glow when they when they vibrate. Just put them on the floor in your living room, turn the phone on, sit there and wait and they'll start the flash.

1:53:47 Speaker 1: Really yeah, okay, uh, this has been such a this has been a treatment. I gotta I really want to. I want I want to now I want to hear more about uh now I want to get like case specific and start looking at at it and being like, you know, hey, this could just line up because you know, I've again I've seen this formation in so many videos. It's just unbelievable. So thank you, thank you so much for doing this to everyone out there, and make sure to like share and subscribe. How we want to thank Patrick and again he's definitely going to get an invite into the studio, But thank you for everyone who's a member of the of the show, listeners and and just in general, we don't or we wouldn't want to do it without you, So stay humble, stay time, and stay vigilant to clim