#95 SEV TOK- UFO/Alien experiencer- MUFON investigator/Author

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1:53 Everybody. My day is Tyler. I am the host creator. As I said earlier today, we have a great show for you. Uh, SEV Talk is joining us. She's a mofon H field investigator. She is UH an experiencer herself. She as an author. She does the UFO lecture circuit. UH so she goes around and speaks uh with moufon at these really great uh and large conferences that are held every year. UH. And she's just a tremendous, tremendous guest. So we want to welcome Sev Talked to the show. Welcome to Total Disclosure.

2:27 I'm super happy to have you on. It's a pleasure to be here. I'm honored. Thank you, well, thank you, thank you. And of course, you know, I think I think what's what would be best is to get to know uh you as a person and how you got into this field, how you became SEV talked to UFO investigator Seth Talk the UFO this Seth Talk that you know. So let's maybe run down the the early the early story. How did you get to where you are are now and what got you interested in the subject. That's kind of obscure.

3:07 I was never interested in the subject until and seventeen when I moved here, excuse me, to the inner banks of North Carolina. I moved here from Capitol Hill, Washington, DC, and up until that point, I had been an experiencer since childhood. My first earliest memories, conscious memories are from the age ten, and I came in contact with a variety of beings up till twenty seventeen. And I was a different person back then because I thought everyone was victimizing me. I thought I was the victim in every situation.

3:46 So I assumed that the grays were victimizing me too. And so I moved here in twenty seventeen, and it was my second morning here and I found a X mark looked like it was burned into my tush. And then nine days later there was another one on the other cheek, exactly like this one. And that was accompanied by this conscious memory of feeling like I was paralyzed on a bed in this room. I didn't know where I was, and I was on my side and I could move my neck, and when I turned around, there was a gray right here, and we made eye contact and we just stared into each other's eyes, and I was scared to death.

4:34 And it was that that made me finally admit that I need help. And then I can't hide this anymore because hiding it negatively adversely affected my life, as it does because when you hide a big truth about yourself, you're not your real self, You're not your authentic self, and then nothing feels right. You took the words out of my mind. I was gonna say, you know for so long. You know, you don't have to say your age, but you know what percentage of your life you I mean ninety nine ninety eight percent?

5:13 So my percentage of my life that I hid this? Yeah? What ninety eight? Now I hit it from ten to fifty five. Yeah, So I mean that's a lot. Why basically, your your whole life, You've been putting on a persona for people that maybe didn't really know what was going on on the inside. And I can't experience. I can't every time I talk to an experience or I can't. Really it's I can't. I can't get in your shoes. It can't get in you know. And that's why I try to do this as as as much as I can. But can you tell me, tell me more about what it's like to be inside?

5:55 What's is there any smells? What when you made contact with this being? You know, was the what was coming? What are the senses that you're feeling in these abduction moments and experiences that you can recall, Well, I've had several, and they're all a little different. I've had contact with the Grays, including the one I just told you about in twenty seventeen. And also I had made contact with the Grays when I did this spur of the moment trip to Roswell, New Mexico with my ex partner. When I was a little girl, I came in contact with a completely different being one time when I was sitting in my living room just a couple of years ago, these blue light beings showed up.

6:43 So I have a variety of different experiences. I also have conscious memories of mill At military abductions, and those are very different. Those are not nights. They're either neutral or they're not. They're bad, and they're actually more difficult for me to talk about out then my et contact. Like when I'm talking about it now, I can feel my stomach tightening right and you know it's ironic or I guess in the community we would call it a synchronicity, is uh, And I guess maybe I should ask you, how does this mic sound, it is everything on and okay, let me get that out of Yeah, if anyone watched our episode with Melinda Leslie, yes, she was having internet issues, so I was focusing on trying to help her, and I didn't go through my pre checklist and my microphone was off, so the only thing that was picking up my audio is the camera in the episode.

7:43 Sound from my perspective, Oh my god, it sounded terrible. So uh. But she brought up, of course, her abduction experiences and how they were followed by my Lab, and it seems there's a connection there. So there's definitely a targeting of of extraterrestrial abductees with these my Lab experiences. And again, like you said, they tend to be overtly negative or maybe somewhat neutral, but never friendly and there but the et ones, there is some sort of compassion in some weird way. Yeah, what the et ones.

8:26 Often information is telepathically exchanged, and often it's beautiful information, helpful information. So I'm an experiencer advocate and I help experiences around the world, And after interviewing and speaking with thousands of experiencers, I've discovered that there's five basic topics of information that the ETS are imparting on us to help us, to benefit us. So you don't get that in a milab, because in a millab it's a debriefing. And I had this one situation, and this is not uncommon, when they wanted me to do something.

9:02 I do not remember what it was, but it was psychic in nature, because you know, our government and other governments are engaged in psychic warfare and have been for a while. And so they wanted me to do something psychic in nature and I refused because I knew it was bad. I knew it was nefarious, I knew the reasons were not positive. And because I refused, I was tortured. And it's really I can't even talk about what they did because it's still hard capital D torture.

9:39 That's it was a mental torture. Was absolutely horrible. I'd never been tortured mentally like that in my life. Yeah, And for anyone who's listening or watching, I mean, when you imagine someone was able to pierce the veil of your consciousness, now that little voice in your head, you know that you have that that that you have, picture someone being able to override that and just basically tune you into you know, I don't know, uh, some really annoying song over and over and over and over again like that.

10:18 So that is the stuff that we know that that that projects like MK Ultra we're looking and seeking to be able to do. So there's much, there's a there's a heavy precedent for it. And if if and I think you know, with everything that's going on right now politically with with UFOs and their occupants, uh talk of a partnership. Uh in your experiences, have you ever come across any information that there may be uh a partnership happening. Well, there was a partnership when it comes to the hybridization program, because I've been given information about that too, and I was actually I think it was in twenty twelve.

11:03 This is my book You Have the Right to Talk to Aliens, and I had drawings in it. This is the being that was standing behind me. And when we locked eyes, hold on, let me put you full screen there, and I describe it like it was like looking into two pools of black oil. And when we looked at each other, these little riches right here were like little wrinkles, and there was no telepathy. So that's not a headband, like a fashion statement. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. What was scariest was that there was no exchange of communication, because there's always communication in my instances, always, and the fact that when we locked eyes and there was nothing that made it creepy, and that made it even scarier.

11:53 And then I popped back in my bedroom and I had already had the first x R. Here's the X by the way, that's the X that's like, that's an actual picture. That's the picture that was on my left cheek of my toe. Oh my god, it looks like a Canadian docuseries. And I actually have a butt double. Oh my god. I know, I hear it's an awkward experience. But that's okay. I I trust me, I get it. I you know, before I did this show. Uh, And you know, it's funny. I do have like I have something to tell you when we when it's appropriate.

12:37 But so this bedroom is actually where the room I'm in now is where my mother passed away, and it's she also where she slept for her you know, her adult life. This is her room and she's the reason I do this show. She's the reason I left Hollywood. So butt doubles, hand doubles. They literally do do doubles for everything because they want Hollywood is fake, it's perfection. It's fake perfection, and it's a toxic environment in my experiences. Uh that's why I left it. But it's funny that you say a butt double.

13:16 Yeah. Actually, Uh there's a brand new organization in town. It's called the Hollywood Member of Yeah, so that's what Steve Bassett, Dan Dan here, Harry a A Uh founded it. I'm very I'm such an advocate and and I'm actually so Steve will be on the show in a couple of days as we're recording this. So Steve is actually a really good friend, so is in Daniel. And I'm very much for what they are doing. Because if we can get to talking to directors on like directors that aren't just you know project uh doing projects like you know, small sci fi projects, but these really large budget, big budget studio films and get some of the real experiences and real life culture of the phenomenon in there.

14:11 And and I mean this is that could be a huge asset. Well, the truth would be a huge asset. Yeah. Again, you know what we want to do because it's filled with Hollywood executives and with euphologists and experiencers and so together we want to help Hollywood tell the truth. And that makes such a scary fear based exactly right, because everyone, I mean you you people think like you know, your average Joe. If you say aliens, they think, you know, Independence Day, you know, but it's just an alien and alien you know that that series of the really Scott, it's it's really that's really the foundation.

15:01 But Star Trek you know later later, pretty good example of what I think uh should be the model. Uh and and probably is most close to the truth, but that's beside the point. I agree though, well Star Wars might be close to the truth too. That's a scary thought. Well, not all aspects of it. Yeah, the Garth Vader's running around the universe somewhere, No, I'm not talking about that talk star appears and things like that. That's what I'm referring to. So the ability see what is what you're talking about?

15:38 Like, so the ability to traverse the cosmos in you know, like be able to create wormholes that kind of technology. Yeah, yeah, so, and many experiences are going through those time warps. Did you know that I have a planet in a star system named after me in the Star Wars galactic system. No, I don't. There's a planet in star system step Talk already even in Wikipedia. Yeah, it was named after me because several years ago, my best friend was dating a writer and he got a job writing a short story for Star Wars, and he said he liked my name, step Talk, I like your name, and he said I'm going to name a planet after you and my story.

16:23 And I thought he was kidding, but the story came out and there I was. That's cannon, and it was just mentioned. If anyone watches Star Wars and or my name was mentioned, No, no, it's around who owns my name? Me or Disney. I don't know anymore. I am pretty sure you would have a hard fight that Disney owns the right. Hopefully hopefully he wrote it in a different way, like together rather than I don't know, but yeah, no, you might. You might not even have the rights to your name, honey, that's how Hollywood is.

17:05 He would really fight you on that. You are a universe, your planet in in in a distant galaxy and Star Wars. That's so. That's amazing, It is amazing. He gifted me eternity so cool. Oh my god, I don't think anyone else wow that you just hit me. It's like one of the coolest facts that have probably ever ever gotten. So all right, the Schumer the stuff, the Schumer Amendment. Have you been paying attention to what's been going on in the Okay? So the Schumer Amendment has essentially fallen apart of course.

17:47 You know there was even a clip today of of Schumer talking about it. You know, Heaving gave gave nod to to the late Senator Harry Reid is inspiration for this and who is very interested in this topic. And you know in twenty seventeen this article came out two thousands, you know, Glowing or is Black Money and really shed light on this this program is that? Did that help you come come out as well in that year? Because of course I was a big year for the topic. You know, a watershed moment, if you will, the aha moment for most of us.

18:31 So it did that garner your your your your coming forward or play a factor? Absolutely not. What made me come forward was I had an existential crisis with the second X. It was serious. Wow, Because when I saw the second X I was trying to prepare myself for it because I had a feeling when I came to in my bedroom and I had this download of a memory of being paralyzed on that bed with the gray behind me. I had a feeling I had another X on me, and I didn't think I was going to be able to handle it. I thought it would push me off the cliff.

19:09 So when when I asked him to look and there was another X, I had an existential crisis. It's really hard to describe what it feels like because at that moment, I realized everything that's been happening to me was not a dream. I thought maybe it was, but it's not. And that's why I'm here to say dreams don't leave axes on your tush. So a lot of people are making contact, but they think they're dreams and they're not. So the existential crisis, who am I like? Who are we? What am I doing in the middle of the night talking to aliens?

19:41 Why are they messing with me? Because back then I thought the grades were messing with me, But I see now that they were helping me, and I was so confused, like I had to redefine myself I had to redefine us as human beings. I didn't know anything anymore, Like I was startying from scratch. And so that's when I declared I needed help. But I didn't know who was going to help me, because up until that moment, I stayed clear of anything that had to do with UFOs, with ets. Uh. You know Whitley's book Communion Union.

20:14 Yeah, I looked at it once and turned it upside down. But now I can look at it. And that's how I know I've healed, because I can look at Whitney's book right because the front covers. I mean, if you're an experiencer and you haven't processed it, it triggers you. Yeah, there's you'd be you'd be you'd be surprised. Actually, I listened. I listened to a lot of podcasts UFO podcasts, and almost every single person who's was a had an abduction experience. And then you know, saw Whitley's book, they like either dropped it or you know, it froze them.

20:56 It did something like because it it brought to the forefront. And that's what's the the So people don't understand the classic arc type of the classic gray alien. So we could. There's plenty of people that argue, well, that's from a movie. That's those are that's movie based. Well no, actually it's not. The people that use that arc type got it from the Project Blue Book files, i e. Steven Spielberg. So art didn't art imitated life. So yeah, you know, the chicken and the egg kind of scenario. So people often think that the arc type originated from cinema, but no, it's the arc type that influenced cinema around for a while.

21:45 Yeah, I mean Betty and Barney Hill described them. You know, Kathleen Martin is a friend of the show. Uh yeah, you know, she's a she's a wonderful uh source of knowledge, I mean for this stuff. And you had physical evidence left on you. Oh I just want to ask

22:07 you said you you said you snapped back into your body and once you made eye contact. I've been running around this theory in my head that what if abductions are not physical always in nature, but so they maybe they take the astral form of you out and that's what they abduct. So you're on the ship you, I mean you yourself. You're on the ship. You you're able to have memories on the ship, but then you snap back into your body, but a little mark is left behind, almost as if they like it's like a it's a remnant byproduct of the situation.

22:58 I agree with you. I think it's both. I think there's three D physical contact, but most contact is happening in what I call the playground of consciousness. Once you enter the playground of consciousness, where all beings are connected, you're in contact with all beings, whether it's a spirit guide, whether it's a dead person, or whether it's an et. And that's why often people who are experiencers do have supernatural experiences because they are on that playground of consciousness making contact with all the beings that that are right.

23:33 And you could also say about like, for instance, when someone has a near death experience and you know they see a loved one or a light being, or some people even talk about seeing the grays and other other beings, you know that there is there there's a lot of evidence to suggest that there is this conscious playground. I love the way you just put that on. I'm going to steal that. That's I just created a marker twenty four oh three. I just stole that from seth Ok Okay, how do you But by the way, what so are you Canadian and what is your background heritage?

24:16 I was born in Istanbul. My entire family is Turkish, and my and I emigrated from Istanbul to Montreal, Canada, where my sister was born, and then we emigrated into the DC suburbs when I was a little girl and I started first grade not knowing English. Oh that's you know, I mean for anyone who doesn't. So the connection to Turkey, right, yeah, Turkey's got such a good rich history. I mean with the things that they're finding out there, you know that pre date any known Uh. I mean there are underground cities in Turkey that they are finding.

25:02 You know that that that made go Beckley Tepee look like you know, uh, child's play. So you know that's I only asked this because are do you know anyone else in your family that is potentially had these experiences because it seems to be a generational thing. Yes. Uh. My parents were very intuitive and plugged in and psychic, the same thing with my sister. I was told, however, by the ETS that they they contacted my sister and she was too scared. They contacted my mother and she was too scared. They contacted my dad and he was interested.

25:47 But uh, it's interesting, WHOA, I like this, this is fun? Uh uh. My father he passed away six years ago and my mother gave me a notebook of his where he wrote down many of his supernatural experiences. And I had never even known about the existence of this book, and so this is like a gift to me, and it's like a holy grip and I'm reading them. It could be that he was seeing et visits as angelic visits or supernatural visits. Maybe he wasn't seeing them as ets, right, huh. And then there's always that that side of it that people and we've talked about this many times on this show, that you know, what if the name is just changed along the way and for different people, it can mean different things.

26:43 Right, So where someone said would say divine intervention or

26:49 being you know, an angel came down to me could be mistaken technology or extraterrestrial technology. And it could just you know, the name changes, fairy angel e t it's all the same phenomena. I don't believe that there are differences, but yeah, we're all in the same localized like phenomena. It's it's they have the ability to transcend what we would see as physical reality, if you will, masters of reality of the physical world. And I think even Mitchell Kaku has said that that you know, that's like, you know, at that point you you maybe even considered a god because if you have master if you have a full mastery over your physical nature, I mean, you might as well be god at that point, and to anyone under you, you would look like a god.

27:50 So I would that book. That's very interesting that that that you found that And I'm sure it's something that you I've talked about, but are there any stories that stick out to you in particular about that your father's experiences in yours being similar, Well, we're both channeled scientific equations and scientific information which I did not know until he passed away. We both also downloaded or channeled very spiritual information stuff that I knew was not coming for me because I had no idea what I was writing.

28:32 And also it was coming out in sentence structures that I don't write and I don't speak, using words that I don't use, and it would come out perfect, like just pages and pages and there would barely be any mistake in them. And I don't write like that. When I write, there's like lots of scratching out and a lot of mistakes and a lot of errors. And that's how I knew I was writing something that is outside of my consciousness of what I perceived. Sev is right, So you're it was almost like you were pulling from the what we would call it the oneness, the one, the the the ether.

29:12 You're pulling this from the ether. So I mean, it's it's perfect because it isn't you. It's you're just channeling it. Well, it could be me, it could be my higher self, it could be another being with a body, it could be just a collective consciousness. You don't always know. Sometimes you do, but not always. And that's an So when you're when you're when you're having this one of these experiences, and maybe you can fill me in on this the not not in my lab but like an actual you know, your your your et contact, you know how much of it?

29:53 Do you think that they allow you to remember portions of it to a degree for you know, in a in a teaching way, are they what what if you could sum the experiences you have up as a lesson? Uh, what do you think because you talked about a couple of things, five or seven things that that that they're imparting on us. Maybe you could run through some of what those are, because I think at a time when the world is so divided, you know, maybe we do need someone to step in and say, you know, hey, it's it's it's time to end this because you're you're you're going to implode if you keep on the path you're on.

30:37 Oh and really that's why everything seems like it's falling apart, because we're purging, and so we can actually see this transformative time on our earth as we're going to hell or this is the beginning of something good. Which way are we want to go? And because I was told the Grace told me when they were the information about the hybridization program, they told me that the embryos, the billions of embryos that they've created, are being harvested and are being kept in case we annihilate ourselves and they're going to be used to receive this planet.

31:16 And they said, we're on the path of annihilation, but it's not too late. We could turn around. But we're on it, but we're not fatally destined for it yet. That would what when you look at it through that lens, that would explain. So that would explain why the hybridization program isn't. People don't seem like it's you know, when they talk about their fetuses being stolen and then maybe meeting them later in life in some form or fashion, it's almost like, uh, this that that would be if that, if that's really you know, if if that's accurate, that is a grave warning that we need to and that's what they're doing.

32:06 I mean, they're giving us grave warnings in a variety of ways. I have a picture here of my experience and when they show me a baby in a tube, here it is there we go, baby in a tube, and that's me standing in front of this tube. This was I think in twenty twelve, and there were three Grace behind me. And this is before I knew that Grace come in different sizes. They got a tall, medium, in short and they telepathically, they were nice. They telepathically said we're just going to stand back here while you take your time and don't be in a hurry.

32:44 And so I turned back around and I look at this baby floating in this tube with this bluish water. The room is dark, and the baby's eyes are open and they're the bluest eyes I've ever seen in my life. And I knew the baby was a boy, even though his legs were positioned so that I really couldn't see. And I had no idea why I was looking at this baby. I didn't feel anything for it. And so fast forward maybe four years, and then I'm in Roswell and my ex and I have this experience and I'm given more information about the hybridization program and I'm reminded of that incident and in one of my MILAB experiences, I was asked to heal hybrid babies.

33:29 That felt like a MILAB experience. So what are MILabs doing with hybrid sick babies? Like, something more is going on from my experience than just humans and grays. There's something else going on too. There's some other body that I think is trying to make hybrid beings and is not doing a good job. And so they asked me to heal them and they weren't human babies. Huh. Now with those my babies, I don't know. So I've come in contact with three hybrid babies. I can't say their mind, no one ever told me they are yours, And it could be going back to your question about remembering and getting information, uh about your experiences.

34:21 I believe that everything has an energy to it, including a memory, including a thought, everything, And I think that when my frequency matches the frequency of that memory or the frequency of the information, it's like an AHA moment, like I align with it and I can know it and I can accept it. That's what we call AHA moments. This is what you want because everything is inside of us. It's just that all of a sudden we resonate with a knowing and it feels like, all of a sudden we know it. It's only because we've consciously focused on it.

34:53 So it can very well be that there is more to my hybrid experiences. But maybe I'm still a little freaked out about it. Maybe I'm not ready to know more. Maybe I can't accept that I have hybrid children. I don't know. I'm still processing that right that And and yeah, I mean that that is going to be a journey that you take. You know that that if now, Oh, I'm sorry, I just want to say one thing I have with experiences who've had wonderful, beautiful experiences with their hybrid children, so it's not always sad and scary and victimizing.

35:37 Yeah, forgive me if I'm getting this wrong. But the lady who worked on Baywatch, I can't remember her name, Kimberly something I believe she was was was shown her hybrid children and felt the connection to and it was a very like emotional experience. And that's how I've heard it described many times. And and it's also like, you know, it's like a closure in some way, because you know, I can only assume from a mother's perspective, you know, to think you're pregnant, to know you're pregnant, right, uh, and then all of a sudden not be And then people are telling you you're crazy and that you you know, you've tricked yourself into a false pregnancy, which is apparently a medical term for a literal tricking of the body into being pregnant, which it's a phenomenon they still can't explain and for obvious reasons.

36:41 Now, is it a byproduct of these my labs? Is it a byproduct of these et contacts experiences? That would make a lot of sense when you start looking at at it through these perspectives and with these with these glasses on. It starts making a lot more sense to what does just the whole picture that the that the government is is most likely working alongside these groups, but they're also probably double crossing them at the same time. Yeah, like we always do. And it seems like every time there's a human involved in my experience, it's a crappy experience.

37:18 Yeah, we tend to double cross, right, We tend to tend to seek and gain or or tend to tend to do what what the greedy thing, right, just double Really, what they've done is horrific because they've double cross the the American public by hiding the truth and making many of us. Uh, there are experiences that have killed themselves, yes, taking their own lives. Yes, yeah this is or still or still live out there in a paralyzed you know. Uh, we talk about being paralyzed and in fear and people there are people out there right now, still in the closet with abduction experiences who will never ever come out and say anything because they are way too afraid.

38:12 That's okay, But what I say is, please come out to yourself, because if you don't come out to yourself, that that lie infiltrates every arena of your life. You can't escape it. You can't compartmentalize and say, all right, I had an experience with this being that's not human, and then I'm going to try and live the rest of my life. Okay, No, you can't that. You have to incorporate it. Yeah, And honestly, someone said something to me one time that I thought was crazy at the time. But the more that more time goes on and the more stuff that happens, the more I'm like, huh, it's after disclosure, right, when we're told that the real truth, you know, whatever, whatever verse of the truth that the government tells us, that if they ever tell us, they would most likely end up being like AA groups meant for abductees.

39:11 Abductees would start forming these like anonymous groups to go talk to each other. Have you seen the TV show People of Earth? Yes, it's like that. Yeah, it was only on two seasons. That show actually is a part of my Roswell story. That plays part of my Roswell story. That show yeah interesting really like yeah, but O'Brien, but there are experiences support groups I co host one we have, and so that would become more mainstream and and and and people would have more access to it. And it's like a a what would you call it?

39:50 Well, it depends on this would be a A yeah. But because whatever I think, I think the general public will end up having a term for the others. I think, I think hear me. I think we'll end up calling whoever the others at first, So it'll be other the others anonymous because we're we're going to think about how we already factionalize ourselves, right, so I do I think from the jump from from a day one, after disclosure, there'll be an others vibe and then hopefully, you know, we as a species will start to grow and realize, you know, our place and the cosmic uh scale is unique.

40:40 It's it's still something to be proud of. Just because we're not top of the food chain doesn't make our experience less unique. It actually makes it more unique in my opinion. So the experiences that you've gone through, though, I don't see them as bad. I mean some of them, the my lab ones I, of course are bad. But for us who haven't been through these experiences, you know you're doing something very brave by telling telling us your story. Thank you, that would come out, like when the exs appeared.

41:17 I had no intention of coming out at all. I didn't want my clients to know that I talked to aliens, like this was a deep, dark secret. And then I talked to Kathy who really helped me, Kathleen Martin. And when I talked to her, I said, what am I supposed to do with all this information that they've given me? Because I actually see myself in my mind's eye talking about it on stage and at that time that was an insane vision. And she said, I can't tell you what to do with it. You have to you have to figure that out.

41:50 And then it was about two or three months later I woke up and I declared, I'm writing a book and I'm going to call it. You have the right to talk to aliens. But when I went to sleep that night, I had no intention of writing a book none. I woke up and there it is. So I don't know what happened that night. It was that it was I think for you, it was you spoke about your aha moment, right that was that was your aha moment in the grand scheme. It was your way to cement your legacy into the annals of history as we know it.

42:24 So I think I think what you did was the right thing. Okay, thanks, oh, Kathleen, And I'm sure it was. So are you a product of the ERT? I am in the ERT. I'm in the executive committee of the Experience Resource Team, which is move On's select group of people. There's only about fifty sixty of us around the world, and we deal with cases that only deal with direct et contact. Yeah, Earl Anderson's a great friend of mine, Kathleen. Kathleen is a great friend. I started it started the Yeah, yeah, she's the founder of the founder of because I think for a long time even mofon had a problem.

43:08 They were drawing the line at that they were drawing a line in the sand, and it didn't feel so inclusive to abductees. And this is another side of your experience that I want to talk about, is your moofon field investigation. So you took your own experiences, you're using them now as a way to help others and also investigate cases to some form or degree. Now, can you talk to us about some of the cases that you've investigated in anything that is you know, the noteworthy in your Yes, So I help experiences not only through mof on but also personally.

43:51 If you go to my website plane at sev dot com, you can go to tell me your ET story. I just fill out a couple of questions and tell me your experience and I'll respond, or you can go through move on. But the can you tell me the question again? Oh my god? Wait did I just get some stories? Okay? I can you move on? Your move on work, move on or non move on? Because in my talks in conferences, I love to talk about experience, your stories, and I love to share the experiences actual drawings and paintings and pictures, and many experiences become very artistic afterwards.

44:39 It's not unusual. And they also become vegetarians, that's not unusual. All of a sudden, they feel much more empathetic and sympathetic towards all living beings. Uh. There is one case, excuse me, of a gentleman who was a hunter and and the ET said what are you doing? And he never hunted again because they made him realize life is precious, So what are you doing taking it away? Life is precious just for enjoyment, for sport. And so these are beautiful messages. I don't want to upset any hunters.

45:16 I'm just telling you the stories that are being told. These are true accounts because these ets are helping us remember that we're all connected and we're all one. They're helping us remember that because we've forgotten that, and that's why we're so vicious towards each other, because we don't realize that we're connected. And so they are giving us information about spirituality and personal empowerment. The ets are giving us information regarding scientific innovation. They give us information about the hybridization program, they give us information about all humanity's potential fate, and they give us information on how to strengthen our psychic abilities too.

46:05 Now, do you think or or do you know if if this if they have been here longer than what we longer than us. Do you think that this presence do you think that maybe part of the secrecy is that the government found out that we are engineered species, uh, and they don't think that we could come to terms with, you know, confronting our creator. And do you think that that could be potential of why there's been you know, almost resettings of civilizations over the course of history, as we know it. Well, I'm not sure about why there are resettings of ancient civilizations, but as to why the government isn't revealing the truth, I think religion just is really a small part of it.

47:06 The main part of it is money and control. That's all Americans care about. That's what our occres about is money and control. And so this information that, like the scientific innovation, we have saucers and we're reverse engineering them. I mean, this isn't crazy talk anymore. And so who's benefiting from this? Who's benefiting from this science? Particular research organizations, particular huge conglomerates, aerospace tech. They're making a lot of money off of it, and they know the truth, and they're lying to us to sell us more iPads.

47:48 And that is why they reached through the veil, through the veil of democracy, and they stripped the Shumer Amendment from what it was to what it became. And what it became was a former shell of itself. And it basically continues for at least another year. The people who have enacted the secrecy on us to continue to dictate whether those secrets come out or not. So again I differ with you a little bit, And then I am to the point now where I hold the people responsible for how fast we're going to know the truth.

48:31 I'm not even putting the onus on the government anymore. I'm like, we have to get more interested, believe it or not. There's still a lot of people who aren't interested, who don't believe, and it's in the news, but there's still a lot of people who are turning their heads away from it. They can't take it, they just can't accept it. We're still there are and so until we cross that threshold of non belief, uh, we're always going to be like in this tug of war, tug of war world, give me more information, giving, give me more information government.

49:14 But I don't want to ask the government for information anymore. I just want us as human beings to do our personal work so that we can finally know the truth. And many of us are not doing our personal spiritual work. It's obvious why would the aliens land when look what we're doing, Look what we're doing, Why would they land? They It's it's as as when Timbershet came on the show, Congressman Timbershet Uh, he said that the reason they haven't landed in Washington, DC is because there's no signs of intelligent life there.

49:52 And that that was I thought, I was. I could not stop laughing about that. U. But well, there's no signs of kind life. Yeah, yeah, exactly, And and uh, I just you know, for for people like you, it's it's you already kind of you don't really need the government to disclose that information because you know, you have a you have a confirmation that made I don't you You have been able to look this phenomena in the eyes. Literally, So some of us, you know, where where going off of experiences like yours, notions you know, because I've seen something.

50:44 I have seen craft, but no beings, and you know, I I know that they're piloted. It's just it. And I know we're not alone. And and I am deducing my own, you know, conclusions from the experiences like yours that I hear. I truly there's something going on on this planet and it's otherworldly in nature. Do you think that there, I mean ancient ancient cultures talked about it. Do you think that there are multiple species that maybe don't have the same vision for humanity? H Are you talking about like evil beings that want to destroy us?

51:25 Maybe? Not evil, but because because because we could see, I mean, the boot that steps on the ant by accident, right, shows no remorse. It was it was in my path. God, indifference can be seen as neglect or negative, but I so maybe that's indifferent. Yes, that's a good way to put it. And that's an excellent point, which is what I felt when I looked at that gray and there was nothing coming. So I felt indifferent. And that was really scary because as human beings, that indifference we that is scary.

52:00 Right. It could very well be that there are a variety of beings that are off planet and on planet. And if you listen to David Grush in the congressional hearings, they asked him why he caused the beings not NHA's non human intelligence instead of ets, and he says, because it's very possible that these beings live on Earth in another dimension. They're not really off Earth, they're on Earth, but we can't see them because they are in other dimensions on Earth, which is both It could be that and it could literally be beings from another planet or star system or galaxy, right, And that I think that that's that's a fascinating notion.

52:47 In itself. To think that not only could civilizations be contacting us from our you know, our own known galaxy, but from other dimensions. I mean that adds a whole, a literal, It adds layers to the onion that we didn't even think we are truly. I mean it's science fiction talk, right that that I mean that that that's borderline science fiction. And if if you know a lot of people when they see UFOs, they see them kind of phase out of reality, well that would make make a lot of sense. Then if that's what they were doing, is they're literally leaving this reality, they're jumping into you know, into the ether and then into another dimension, well that would make sense, and it would it would make total sense.

53:38 And do you think that you potentially bend in another dimension? You're you're because you know, we exist more than this and there's there's aspects to us that are existing in the other dimensions. As we talk in the other dimensions. Can you elaborate on that, because I don't quite, But we're more than just this or energy, and the energy just keeps going and going and going and going. There's no end, and so you exist, we're fractals, we exist eternally, and so we just keep existing through all the dimensions and all that there is.

54:15 And so this, this is right here, this SEV is just a mere sliver of all that I am and so and so there are aspects of me that exist in the other dimensions. For instance, when you meditate or when you do astra travel, you go places, you meet beings. That's not you sitting on the couch. That's an aspect of you that exists in the other dimensions. Having an experience that you can focus on and cautiously be aware of. Everyone could do that with practice very much. And that's you know, I did this. So yesterday I got to do a sound bath.

54:52 Oh I love that. Yeah, I don't know if I have never experienced something like that before. And it was I mean I went somewhere like and even the the proctor, like the person doing it. I was the only one in the room, right, it was a you know private what wow. Yeah. When I came out of the she said, I like rose up, like I was jolting back into my body. And you know, she could tell that I was under super deeply because of how just still my hands and feet were, but she could see them eyes were moving out of like a thousand miles per second under the eyelids being shut.

55:46 She could see that they were moving and she knew that I had got so she literally like she made me take steps, like breath work to get to a standing position because she's like, I haven't seen someone really go under like that in a long time. And I was, you know, I've been practicing meditation. I've been trying, you know, doing it a lot frequently. And I think it the vibrations and the resident the frequencies, and I think it just allowed me to finally tune in because that was the first time an meditative experience brought me to somewhere drugs have brought me before.

56:30 Yeah, that's great, like

56:35 on your own. And that was like I woke up with a clogged nose, I couldn't speak right, Like. It was a very weird experience and I highly recommend it. It was one of the coolest things I've ever done. And yeah, I do you do you think that you're you're you talked about psychic abilities? Do you think that we all are innately born with these abilities to remote view and other other capabilities just that they need to be unlocked well, we just have to I teach people how to strengthen their psychic abilities.

57:22 And the first thing is just admitting that you have them. Some people don't even know that they have them. And then the second step is a determination to practice. That's really all it is, because those are our multidimensional sensors, interdimensional sensors that are working, and if we can use them, we get wonderful advice from the dimensions particular to us. Better than any therapist you can go to that really helps you guide you as you maneuver through the the human experience, which is not easy, right, And people may act like that sounds crazy, but I mean some of the greatest minds in all of human history, the Nikola Tesla's, the Einsteins, the the da Vincies, they all have said that they were channeling something else, that the information wasn't necessarily theirs, but it was given to them in a way.

58:36 Yes. Actually, when the these two light beings came into my living room one afternoon when I was wide awake, uh, and they sat down and there was there were gorgeous I'm sorry, a light being sat down. Yeah, how does that work? I don't know, but they were like on the couch, and they're like tall, but they looked like they were sitting down because I was sitting on the couch. So I guess they figured, let's just position ourselves across from her, okay, and so they just shortened themselves, but they were on the couch.

59:11 Hold on, I sorry, I don't mean to cut you off. That sound rude there. So what do these things look like? They're light? Are they sticks of light? Are they? Do they have form in any sense? Or is it just a ball? I actually put together a graphic to try and explain the best of what I could, but I don't have it. Uh, they're light beings and so there were I couldn't draw them if I wanted to, really, because they're constantly undulating, and they were made up of these ribbons of kaleidoscope light there that was constantly moving, and it was blues and silvers, and every now and then they'd be like this flash of spring green right here, and so I couldn't believe my eyes and I'm blinking my eyes, and I actually took a picture.

1:00:03 They did not come out in the picture. I have the picture. And then they poured onto me this intense feeling of love unlike anything I've ever felt in my life, and I describe it as more intense than the love your mother gives you. Try and imagine that. And then the first thing they said to me was when you look into our eyes, you look into yours. And that's how the conversation started. Then they gave me a lot of information and I took notes. I have the notes as they were talking to me. And one of the things they told me about was Tesla and Disney and Schakowski.

1:00:48 And they said that these three men were connected and they were indeed channeling, and that Disney and Tesla met and that when you listen into Chackowski music, and these three men happen to be my most favorite men since I was a little girl, and I loved Tchaikowski. And they said, when you listen to Tchackoski music, that's an activator, like a DNA activator, okay, activator. And so it's not by accident that one of Disney's most famous movies, Fantasia, is filled with Chakski music, because Disney and Fantasia is not a cartoon.

1:01:26 It's an activator. That's very interesting that I mean, which is my favorite Disney cartoon when I was little. I still love it. It's not a cartoon though, And there's I mean, there's other to the flip side. Let's go to the alternate side, right, because then you have people like Alistair Crowley and l Rod the Hubbard and them, and they're channeling, but they're also they're channeling something that's dark, like you know, you know, the rituals. It's all your perspective. Because information comes in a variety of different frequencies.

1:02:12 There's low vibe info, which we would call dark info, and high vibe info, which we may call spiritual information. Or right, well, now, now if you step back with me for a second and look in on what we just talked about. You talked about the light beings looking into their eyes, feeling more love than even your mother could give. That's straight out of the Bible, right angel talk. Yeah, and then Alistair Crowley, l Ron Hobbery, what they're doing is straight demon doc right, the rituals they were performing.

1:02:51 So again you have to ask yourself the question. I hate to sound like I'm working on ancient aliens. You gotta ask yourself, are we talking about the same thing? Angels and demons, extraterrestrials, and non human intelligence. It's it's I just there's gotta be a connection. In my mind. I just there's got to be. It's just it's too too close. And I think these ancient texts weren't just stories. And I think scientists we need to not we because I'm not a scientist, but I think science needs to get a little bit more on board with taking theologists more seriously, and theologists need to work with scientists more seriously.

1:03:37 And I think together that's a singularity, the aha moment that the whole world has. Yeah, but we have problems with our researchers and scientists in America and that once they have a theory, they they hate to disprove it, even if it's obviously wrong. There's some ego in our scientific and research community here in the United States that really sets us back. It's a shame. It's very, very very blatant that there is. Uh it's like a clique and and they're all they're all fighting about papers that get read by like seven people, and most of them are their class.

1:04:16 Uh uh, their their students and their family. And it's like, I just don't I don't get the click nature of of the academia, because you know, there's like even NASA talked about it right in their in their content in their press conference. How it wasn't the UFO community that was given them crap, it was other scientists that were harassing them. Mm hmm. So I mean, I mean, that's just that's disgraceful, and that's that's a problem from the look at it like a pyramid, that's a problem at the top that is going to capsize.

1:04:56 It's gonna it's that's gonna that's the problem that it's going to trickle down. Is if this is the dark Ages when we were completely unknowing we did not know the truth. One day, when we know the truth that we're part of a galactic community, and actually right now where the troublemakers in our galactic community. That's why they're giving coming and trying to help us. And it's easier really to change a collective through each individual, as each individual changes, than the collective changes.

1:05:30 That's why there are millions of people having et contact. Why don't you think that if I mean, if they have the ability to do the things that they do, why not why why not make like everyone goes to bed tonight, whatever tonight is. You know in Australia, obviously there's time zones and stuff, you know, but everyone goes to bed and they all have the same dream. Why not why not do something like that that like or why not be abducting presidents and being like, hey, we need to have a talk. There are many presidents who have seen UFOs see me, yes, and maybe they're at and not admitting it.

1:06:19 We don't know yet. You know what, You're right, you got me there, you got me, Seth, you got me there. You know what, I will admit that you got me. You know it's was it Japan's Prime minister's wife, well Japan? Well in Asia there's a high level official whose wife claims that she was on board. Oh no, get out of here. Mm hmmm. See that's what I'm talking about with like these people that have everything to lose when they start speaking up. Yeah, that's when people pay attention and people famous have everything to lose.

1:07:01 I no, I understand that, but hopefully you understand h that was a note derogatory and the respect and the yes, the notoriety. Yeah, I can also right out the window if that's important to you right. So like if say tomorrow, like Miley Cyrus was like, or Kim Kardashian was like I was abducted, there would be an up like uproar. There would be an uproar, you know, of people calling they're crazy. But then like a bunch of people that would be like, wait a second, this is real all because it's Kim Kardashian and not so f and that's sad.

1:07:41 It's sad. Well it's it's okay, it's funny. It's it's funny because it's Uh. I forgot what show. It was a podcast, but they were saying, like, if if a UFO landed on like the the the the three, the highway in California, I can't remember what name of it. The name of it is the five, Uh the yeah, the if it if it landed on the five, the the helicopters, they'd show up and then they'd get a couple of shots, and then an hour after that they'd they'd move. You know, UFO lands you know, UH blocks highway, UH traffic backed up, UH civilians in rage.

1:08:32 Next on, next up, Kim Kardashian wears Prada to insert event here, So like that's how I'm afraid that that's really a thing that would happen, is that we would just be like, Okay, cool. How I feel like we are right now because there's so much proof and evidence out there, yet people just don't want to go there, like the things that David Grush said. But really, when I talk to people out in the society, no one's really like even talking about it. I'm like, how could you not talk about what that man just said?

1:09:08 Well, I am doing a video. It's funny that you bring that up. I'm doing a video where I go to Boston. I live in I live in Boston, so I'm in the city and I went downtown and you know, it's holiday season, so there's a lot of people downtown shopping, and I did like the YouTuber thing, and I pulled people like I literally pull I'm pulling people aside and asking do they know who David Crush David Crush is, do they know what he's saying? Do they know what's happening in government? And that UFOs are are are not only in the docket, but non human intelligence was mentioned twenty one times in an amendment in our National Defense Authorization Act of fiscal year twenty twenty four, like questions like that, and I'm sad to report this in advance.

1:10:05 Ninety five percent of people don't know what is going on. Yeah, nope, nope, but they do know what colone they're going to get in Macy's. Yeah, this is gonna be slow. This is gonna be slow because the fear is so prevalent on our planet. It's really probably the most prevalent energy that there is, and as long as that exists, it's gonna be It's gonna take a long time if we continue to allow fear to rule us. Do you think fear is keeping us back? Yeah? Uh huh. That is an interesting notion because we know, like what happened with me when I had my existential crisis.

1:10:53 I'm like, what I'm really talking to an alien? Like who am I? And what are we now? If we go through that, if we as a society have an existential crisis at the same time, that is not good. No, at we could starve, if we could like die, I mean all kinds of things could happen. Yeah, And oh my god, I'm I am so glad that you just said that, because now that could be included in my film because uh, you know, the film centers around that, uh and and that this notions. So maybe I'll have to make a stop up in Montreal and talk to you.

1:11:37 But h or, I was gonna tell you're not in Montreal anymore. You're in North Carolina. Actually you're in the same state as Mario Woods, and I am going to be down there anyway. So beautiful, So we'll talk about that. But you're absolutely right now. Kevin Day and I we spoke. He was the first interview I did on Total Disclosure, and he had said to me, he shook me to my core when he said that that day on that ship in two thousand and four, when the Knimits saw the tic tack. He had been seeing them for days, but once they vectored Commander Favor's flight, they had an actual v v I D visual ID identification.

1:12:19 His his worldview literally halted, and then he was literally laughed into retirement. In the next couple of years because of the event. People were making fun of him. He was the crazy UFO guy because he was, you know, raising his hands and meeting and saying, you know, we have a safety of flight issue here, like you know, uh, there's these things out there. He basically got laughed into retirement and then his life just boom. He lost his wife is is he began drinking heavily. This is the same story that Mario Woods has after being a ducted on a base with nuclear missiles.

1:13:04 So I mean it's this is you're absolutely what if we all had that? And one, that's what a catastrophic disclosure looks like is when everybody in the world has an existential crisis at the same time we're trying to avoid that. Yes we are. And so the catastrophic disclosure has been a word that's being thrown around a lot right now. And at this point I do think something. I personally think something might happen before the truth comes out, and that is this false alien flag so that they're that they're going to create between us and them the others, which is gonna be totally so the the the the doctor Greer kind of Werner von Braun last card to play.

1:13:58 Yes, yes, that kind of scenario, Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. How do you think they'd pull such a feet off? Well, I had an experience where I had a friend come spend the night with me and we both had an experience that night, and part of the experience was her in the guest room and she woke up and she looked out the window and it looked over the water, and she sees in the sky Jesus Christ, and she hears in her head, we can do this. See that, we can do that. It looks real, doesn't it. And we can do that.

1:14:43 We can put anything in the sky hologram, holograph and fool you into thinking it's real. Now at the same time, I'm having an experience in my bedroom where she came into my bedroom. She got into my bed and I said, what's the matter, and she said, I'm And then at that very moment, I felt at presence at the foot of my bed, and it was the hat man or the men in black. It was this astral black figure. It was blacker than the darkness of the room. It was tall, it had like the outline of a fedora had in a suit.

1:15:20 And as soon as I looked at it and recognized it, energy came out of it into me, into my chest, and it felt like there were tentacles, and it felt like it was just trying to pull me out of me, trying to pull the essence of me just right out of me, like it almost like wanted to own me. And I could feel like this tug of war in my chest, and I was scared. Oh my god, I was so scared because I could not lose this battle, because that being was a low VI being, and I experienced enough with the supernatural to know that we're always in control.

1:15:57 So I had this energetic battle with this being, and I kept insisting, you will not win, you will not win. You have to go. I'm gonna fight you. I'm going to fight you. You will not win. Finally it gave up, and it felt like I fought for my life, and then I fell asleep. So the next morning I wake up and I said to my girlfriend, did anything weird happened to you last night? And she goes, oh, yeah, yeah it. She told me about the Jesus Christ that she saw. And then I told her, well, yeah, then you came into my bedroom and you told me you were scared.

1:16:32 She goes, I never came into your bedroom. I go, yeah you did. I was wide awake. She goes, no, I never came in. I'm like okay. So we both decided we were just not going to talk about it anymore. Which was my oldmo. Just ignore, ignore, ignore us must have been a cool dream. We knew it wasn't. But I do believe that that man in black was attached to her. It's a low vie being. And what happened was my friend all of a sudden, she was a spiritual teacher. All of a sudden she got really caught up in QAnon ah babies and all that, and that she went full Alex Jones.

1:17:17 Huh. I don't know if she was listening to him, but anyway, she was there, she was, She was definitely you align with when you are focused there, you align with beings who live in that dimension, in that low frequency dimension. So that entity was hers, but it was messing with me. It's my house. Wherever we go, we take our beings with us. Well yeah, well I guess the figure let me see if I have a chance with sev and said, I said, I have an opportunity. It said I have an opportunity here to grab a real experiencer.

1:17:54 And that was a government. Because I really wonder, are these men in blacks, these astral men and blacks that I call them, can our government enter our consciousness? Have they figured out that they can send like this entity that actually taps into our consciousness and plays with our minds? Can our government do this? Yeah? Maybe what if it's like an avatar, you know what if you know, like like uh, I hate to say that, but and an avatar of like an astral form and and I know that sounds crazy, but I mean we look at you know, yeah, you look at this combine artificial you know, artificial intelligence is already on the market, like scary.

1:18:46 Imagine what they have behind closed doors, and then pair that with the ability to three D print and potentially three D print organic material. Now we're talking yeah, some some some you know, ability to create life right essentially, especially if they've cracked that you know, general art general non or general artificial intelligence. And I think they have and and they're not telling us, And that is a very big problem why leaders want them to halt the AI thing in general. But all of a sudden, we start getting to a place where these things aren't so crazy anymore.

1:19:31 Right, They're just not science. They become science fact. And I think with some even doctor Greer's disclosure two point zero, they talked about, uh, these direct energy weapons, Now, could could that be a result you know, when people think of a weapon, they think of something like something like a gun that shoots you, right, or a knife that stabs you. But what if this isn't like a weapon like that? What if this is a weapon of the mind, right, and that's what they're using. Yeah, they've been engaged in site psychological or in cy warfare for decades.

1:20:13 Uh, and they could be very well advanced in that playground of consciousness, right, which is why that they're constantly probably being warned, you know, to not play around with it and then uh, you know, bad things happen from there. But uh, I just it blows me away that the naivety of humanity to this fact, because I mean, if that false log operation does get kicked off, I would say that that happens the next five six years. If it's gonna happen, it's happening soon, because they're gonna they're either gonna attend to, like to say, China makes a move on Taiwan and they want to stop World War three.

1:21:06 They may actually think that giving us a space battle to win will unite us, and that might be something they try. Yeah, and then do you think that, I mean, but do you think that it could possibly unite us the the just the information alone that we're not alone. Do you think that could unite us as a species. I don't think Until the individual human transforms into a kind of being, nothing's going to change. Okay, okay. So that's the crux of everything is that we feel out of control. And when you feel out of control, you get angry, you get mad, you get victimized, you want to hurt other people, you get jealous.

1:21:55 We feel out of control. And why are we out of control? Because we're lied to you constantly, constantly about our power to create and manifest our reality, re lied to about our origin, about our ancestry, will lie to about everything, every single solitary thing you can imagine. And intuitively, we know this, and we're getting tired. We are as a as a public, growing more and more, uh non intolerant of this because who gave and I parted my language here, but who gave the government the right to fucking take reality and put a trademark on it like they own it, right, it's a good way to put it.

1:22:44 Like they are creating. Uh what maybe one man, two men in the entire planet are creating our reality based on their egotistical needs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that is that is something that not only the world, but the universe can no longer stand for, it seems. And that's right, You're absolutely right, because just like we radiate energy, Earth radiates energy, and the energy that she's radiating is not very positive. It's not a high vibe that that energy radiates into the galaxies. Everyone's feeling it, and that's why they're coming and they're giving us these messages of love and hope, and they're teaching us because we're affecting their lives too.

1:23:30 We're the like I said, they're troublemakers and we need to be controlled. Right, So it's like they're it's almost their obligation, right. It's maybe it's not even that they feel that they that they necessarily care to step in, it's that they need to. Yeah, we're just like dad was hurting, you would help or if yeah, or if you know you brother was convicted of a serious crime, right, it's you you still you can't stop loving that person because he's your brother, right, but just you know, he did something terrible and you only hope that he can learn from his sins and and potentially become a better person be you know.

1:24:21 Unfortunately for him it's gonna be in the incarceration system. And for us, uh, it seems that we've been trapped on planet Earth for the time being because they don't want us out there yet, not not in body, not not in physical form at least. So uh, sef You've been absolutely so so fun to talk to, and I really I would love to have you back on the show as as as often and frequently as possible. I would love to talk further about uh, definitely including you uh in the in the documentary and uh working so people.

1:25:01 So you have planets dot com, do you have Do you have Twitter or anything like that, Instagram, sep Talk, Facebook, scept Talk, YouTube, Alien Spirit. I have videos on there. I actually created this three part series of guided meditations with my voice and high vibe music and I also talk about raising your frequency and I help you connect to other worldly beings and people are connecting. Well, that's awesome because I think you have a great voice for it. I yeah, but I'll definitely I have a on the channel.

1:25:41 I have a playlist for for the public and it's guided meditations and I'll add yours in there. Your your series because I think, yeah, I think that's yeah. I like I just you know how YouTube every year they give you like this little My number one video was the one uh was it had a channel? Yeah? Yeah, that's a that's amazing And and I can be you know, I am a testament. Like there have been multiple times where I've done a guided meditation where I've I like I at the end, I get so nervous that I pull myself out of it before I can actually yeah, you know, get connected.

1:26:30 But I feel it coming. Yeah, I pulled myself out, Yeah, on purpose, because I don't know if a lode it's like a little rush. Yeah, it's it's, it's there's it's weird. It is it is. It's it's you like letting go of your physical body is what I'm pretty sure is happening. And at that moment, your focus is changing. Yeah right, agreed, Agreed, And it it's me a little bit. And I pulled myself and I pulled multiple times where I pulled myself out and been like, ah, like so upset about it because but then, like I said, yesterday's sound bath, it really allowed me to just let go to just because there is there's so much go.

1:27:16 You know, there's the vibrational frequencies and noise, and you know, you can really kind of For me, I'm always going, My mind is always racing, and this allowed me to really calm. Yeah, and look what happened. You had almost like what an epiphany? Maybe literally calm. That's why meditation is important. It's not about making your mind blank or still. That's what medication is for, and that's why a lot of people do it because they can't make their mind blink. I don't think I can make my mind blank.

1:27:53 Yeah, I don't mind blank anyway, That's not why I meditate. I want to see things. I want to feel things, I want to hear things. I want to go places. I want to learn. I wanna Yeah I had that. Yeah, I absolutely agree blanking your mind. I mean that that's just going to sleep. And even then they take you on a journey. Yeah, even your body gives you the benefit of bringing you to places when you blank it. Right, So, I mean, come on, let's get real here, Sev. You've been amazing. This has been such a fun talk.

1:28:30 Uh So people follow her on YouTube, on Instagram, on Amazon, and yeah, I was gonna ask about that, so they can get that on Amazon, and I'm sure you know your local bookstores can order it, or if you're like a buy a Barnes and Noble, maybe they have it as well. Is it still in print? It in some bookstores, it's in print, but the easiest place to get it is Amazon. Okay, okay, great, Well, I'll include all those limps links in the description below for everybody, And I want to thank everyone for taking the time out of your day to sit here and listen to uh, Seve and I have this discussion.

1:29:15 You guys are the lifeblood of the show. It could not be possible without you. And as long as we're continuing to tell this message together and to go through this journey together, the better and the more people that we can attract that you know, Uh, it's just becoming This is overwhelming, the response that we've been getting lately and the amount of people that are that are new and becoming interested in this topic because of what is happening in in in the public's eye. We may not see it in uh this vast quantity, but I could see it in the analytics, and the podcast is getting a lot more attention.

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