ANOMALIES ON MARS...The Red Planet HOLDS A DEEP SECRET Ft. Brian Corey Dobbs

0:16 Speaker 1: Stay all right, Welcome back to Total disc Oh damn,

1:35 Speaker 1: that was going to be so slick.

1:37 Speaker 2: I started this new thing where I was going to

1:38 Speaker 2: start the intro right at the tail end of the music.

1:43 Speaker 2: See how that worked out for me. Welcome back to

1:45 Speaker 2: Total Disclosure. Right, it's die. I have your host ed creator.

1:49 Speaker 2: We're going to be joined tonight also by producer Jeanie's

1:52 Speaker 2: going to be jumping in in just a moment. But

1:56 Speaker 2: the real fun, if you will, is someone returning from

2:01 Speaker 2: last week's live stream where we had a little ghost encounter,

2:07 Speaker 2: which was something new for me. Last weekend was fucking wild,

2:15 Speaker 2: multiple days of ontological shock and existential crisis. But yes,

2:20 Speaker 2: joining us tonight is Brian Corey Dopps. He is the

2:23 Speaker 2: award winning documentary filmmaker of Blue Planet Red. Brian's work

2:29 Speaker 2: delivers a ground breaking look at the evidence for life, fossils, artifacts,

2:35 Speaker 2: and hidden ruins on the Red Planet, as well as

2:38 Speaker 2: the UFO connection. Beyond his film, he actively drives the

2:43 Speaker 2: Mars disclosure movement forward through his YouTube channel, Blue Planet

2:49 Speaker 2: Red with Brian Corey Dopps of the same name. Get ready,

2:53 Speaker 2: We're going to be really diving deep into this and

2:55 Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever done a show that's specifically

2:58 Speaker 2: on Mars. I'm so excited to get into it. It's

3:02 Speaker 2: something that I am very passionate about because all many,

3:08 Speaker 2: many cultures have looked to the sky and talked about

3:12 Speaker 2: the Red planet. And you know, now that we're able

3:16 Speaker 2: to send you know, photographic machines and tools to our

3:23 Speaker 2: closest and you know, even some of our furthest celestial objects,

3:26 Speaker 2: we're starting to see that. I don't think everything's as

3:30 Speaker 2: cut and dry as the textbooks would have it. So

3:34 Speaker 2: with that being said, let's welcome today our friend Brian

3:39 Speaker 2: Corey Dobbs.

3:48 Speaker 3: I've read die. What's going on? Man?

3:52 Speaker 2: Not much. I'm battling a little bit. I'm a little

3:54 Speaker 2: bit under the weather. Yeah, we're going to do this

3:59 Speaker 2: show last night, but I had to chicken out because

4:02 Speaker 2: of my uh my voice sounded way worse last night.

4:07 Speaker 2: I always have a kind of gravelly voice, but god,

4:11 Speaker 2: it like, you know, I sounded like RFK junior yesterday.

4:17 Speaker 2: I hear you.

4:17 Speaker 4: Well, it's okay, man, we're here today, the sunshining.

4:21 Speaker 3: We got plenty of time and good company, so.

4:24 Speaker 2: Yes, listen. I wanted to open up the show with

4:28 Speaker 2: a little bit of banter. You know, that's what I

4:31 Speaker 2: do best because I fucking banter.

4:34 Speaker 5: Uh.

4:35 Speaker 2: I know you don't follow this stuff as extremely close

4:37 Speaker 2: as I do, but I wanted to kind of get

4:40 Speaker 2: your feelings on something. Do you know who lou Elizondo is?

4:48 Speaker 3: Yes? Of course?

4:49 Speaker 2: Okay, So you know Alexondo. You know Ross Coltart, Yes, okay.

4:54 Speaker 2: Do you know UAP Gerb.

4:57 Speaker 3: Only by name?

4:58 Speaker 2: Only by name?

4:58 Speaker 5: Okay?

4:59 Speaker 4: Well, rossining him last week and I sort of got

5:02 Speaker 4: the gist of what was going on there.

5:05 Speaker 2: Right, oh right, right, right, right, right right? I remember that.

5:08 Speaker 2: So Ross had UAP Gerb on the News Nation reality

5:14 Speaker 2: check program. They're doing like a two parter, and you know,

5:21 Speaker 2: some some pretty they're not. It's not anything new. I mean,

5:27 Speaker 2: people have been talking about Alexondo being this kind of

5:33 Speaker 2: legacy UFO program plant, or at least mechanism, whether he

5:39 Speaker 2: knows it or not, this mechanism of a controlled disclosure, right,

5:45 Speaker 2: And you know, ever since Alexondo first came into the

5:48 Speaker 2: UFO community in twenty seventeen, he's been pretty open about

5:52 Speaker 2: how he's not a quote unquote UFO guy, He's not

5:56 Speaker 2: a ufologist, he's not this, he's not that he's a

6:00 Speaker 2: counter intel expert who is asked to use his skills

6:06 Speaker 2: on or on and around the UFO topic. Now, what

6:12 Speaker 2: that sounds like to me is that he's doing someone's bidding.

6:18 Speaker 2: And it's always sounded like that to me. I I

6:23 Speaker 2: just don't yell and scream about it. The guy's been

6:25 Speaker 2: pretty open about what what he is and isn't. We're

6:29 Speaker 2: the ones or not we But there's some people in

6:32 Speaker 2: this community that follow the guy and everything he says

6:36 Speaker 2: like it's gospel. And I if you're defending the UFO gurus,

6:42 Speaker 2: like they're like your fucking fantasy football team, like reevaluate yourself. Yeah, right,

6:50 Speaker 2: reevaluate where you're at, right, And so gerb went on

6:55 Speaker 2: ross Colthard. The weird thing is is people in the

6:58 Speaker 2: community have been talking about at Lou for a long time. Listen,

7:02 Speaker 2: I kind of like the guy. There's something about him

7:06 Speaker 2: that I like, and I think that's why he's good

7:08 Speaker 2: at his job. I want to like him, I want

7:11 Speaker 2: to trust him, but I know you got to keep

7:15 Speaker 2: people like that at arms arms distance. So there's this

7:18 Speaker 2: idea of this role in government at least like liaison

7:23 Speaker 2: between government military and the public that I think Alizondo

7:28 Speaker 2: is at least gunning for so. But but Gerb and

7:31 Speaker 2: coltheart came out and they both kind of like endorsed

7:37 Speaker 2: this idea that lou is a plant from a from

7:40 Speaker 2: the legacy UFO programs plural, and that he has been

7:45 Speaker 2: sent kind of to control the nozzle, right. We can't

7:52 Speaker 2: let it overflow and flood. We have to let it

7:55 Speaker 2: drip out. What do you think of something like that?

7:59 Speaker 4: Of course it makes logical sense, I think in general,

8:04 Speaker 4: as it relates.

8:05 Speaker 3: To disclosure, we have these.

8:09 Speaker 4: Figures, these public figures, some of them were more notable

8:13 Speaker 4: than others, and the public applies a certain value to

8:18 Speaker 4: each one of them based on whom they're affiliated with.

8:22 Speaker 4: In a case of luel Azando, first the guy. First

8:24 Speaker 4: of all, I agree with you. He seems like a

8:25 Speaker 4: likable guy. Just the way he speaks seems relatable. He's

8:30 Speaker 4: got a cool name. He was featured on sixty minutes Okay,

8:36 Speaker 4: looking really sharp and coming from video production worlds and

8:42 Speaker 4: filmmaking and such, I'm sure you can appreciate. Simply having

8:46 Speaker 4: higher production quality associated with your public persona oftentimes allows

8:52 Speaker 4: you to have inherently more credibility in the eyes.

8:57 Speaker 3: Of the public, isn't that weird?

8:59 Speaker 4: Rights means a whole lot, and this is something that

9:02 Speaker 4: a lot of people don't really understand who are getting

9:04 Speaker 4: into this. But so so, you know, video podcasts have

9:08 Speaker 4: come a long way about the game. It's not just

9:10 Speaker 4: about audio now, it's about like what you can how

9:13 Speaker 4: you can present yourself. So that being said, because he

9:18 Speaker 4: comes from this, you know, from government, essentially, there is.

9:25 Speaker 2: Always definitely comes from government.

9:29 Speaker 4: Right government, I'm you know, there's a variety of ways

9:33 Speaker 4: you can define what government is, but you know, just

9:35 Speaker 4: to distill it down, there is always going to be

9:38 Speaker 4: and there always should be an inherent amount of skepticism

9:42 Speaker 4: as it relates to any government official, former or existing.

9:47 Speaker 4: You know, based on what exactly it is they're saying.

9:50 Speaker 4: There should always be skepticism there. I do get the

9:54 Speaker 4: sense that there is at least some amount of truth

9:58 Speaker 4: to what he is saying, in the whether or not

10:04 Speaker 4: it is entirely true or not. You know, I don't

10:07 Speaker 4: want to get so lost in the black or white

10:11 Speaker 4: aspect of it, because we are sitting here in twenty

10:13 Speaker 4: twenty six talking about flying saucers in the mainstream news,

10:19 Speaker 4: and I think that's an overall win for this movement.

10:23 Speaker 4: And figures like him, in the eyes of the uninitiated public,

10:27 Speaker 4: have an inherent amount of credibility because he is essentially vetted.

10:30 Speaker 4: He has the government credentials, he has the you know,

10:35 Speaker 4: the secret government credentials. And so for the people who

10:39 Speaker 4: just go to work and to come home and they

10:41 Speaker 4: put on the five o'clock news, there's that Ufo Gui

10:44 Speaker 4: from the government and he's telling it like it is

10:47 Speaker 4: and they don't know this. There's what you have on

10:50 Speaker 4: the mainstream news. And I don't want to knock the

10:53 Speaker 4: mainstream news. I mean it is there and everybody watches it,

10:55 Speaker 4: and that's fine. But then there's online culture, which like

10:59 Speaker 4: people like you and I are really tapped into and

11:02 Speaker 4: like it's we can't talk to our parents or our

11:05 Speaker 4: friends about this stuff. They're not into it. They just

11:07 Speaker 4: see the major headlines. And he's going to be one

11:09 Speaker 4: of those people in the major headlines. So us, you

11:14 Speaker 4: and I have to have that ability to discern a

11:18 Speaker 4: little bit more as it relates to what's coming from him.

11:21 Speaker 3: And you know, I think that's that's fair.

11:25 Speaker 2: Do you do you think it's our job to maybe

11:29 Speaker 2: enlighten people on you know, if they get But okay,

11:34 Speaker 2: let me kind of rephrase this because I want to

11:37 Speaker 2: jump obviously, I want to get to your your your topic.

11:40 Speaker 2: H But I couldn't help myself but bite into this

11:44 Speaker 2: a little bit tonight. Do you think that it's our

11:48 Speaker 2: job as people that are tapped in to kind of

11:53 Speaker 2: temper people's expectations if they do come across this stuff

11:58 Speaker 2: and say, know, maybe they're talking and they're they're a

12:03 Speaker 2: little bit bit misguided. You know, do you think do

12:07 Speaker 2: you think there is or do you think because there's

12:09 Speaker 2: no denying that the shift from twenty seventeen to now,

12:14 Speaker 2: you can't deny what the guy's done for the topic mainstream.

12:18 Speaker 2: You can't fucking deny it. Whether there's the Wizard of

12:21 Speaker 2: Oz behind the curtain pulling the fucking strings, he's the

12:25 Speaker 2: public face of that that momentum shift and to the

12:29 Speaker 2: Stars Academy. So you could argue that we aren't here

12:34 Speaker 2: today without the introduction of Louelizondo.

12:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

12:41 Speaker 4: Again, we have to give the guy credit here, Like

12:44 Speaker 4: this thing got kicked off twenty seventeen, that's almost ten

12:49 Speaker 4: years ago.

12:50 Speaker 2: Isn't that easy.

12:51 Speaker 3: It is.

12:52 Speaker 4: We've made a lot of progress since then, and I

12:56 Speaker 4: think the reason why you invited me on the show

12:59 Speaker 4: directly relates to what he was involved in and releasing

13:03 Speaker 4: these or leaking these these videos, these UFO videos to

13:08 Speaker 4: the New York Times way back in the day. I

13:11 Speaker 4: mean that that now we were having congressional hearings, we're

13:15 Speaker 4: having mainstream news coverage in this.

13:18 Speaker 2: I watched him, I watched him testify to Congress.

13:21 Speaker 4: Right, I mean, this is a big deal, whether or

13:24 Speaker 4: not he's playing a part. While he might be, but

13:29 Speaker 4: overall I see it as okay, he's he's helping the

13:33 Speaker 4: movement gain the attention that it deserves. But to answer

13:37 Speaker 4: your question, yes, it is up to people like us

13:41 Speaker 4: to you know, be a little bit more discerning and

13:44 Speaker 4: to try to contextualize this for the lay person who

13:48 Speaker 4: doesn't follow the day to day and it doesn't know

13:50 Speaker 4: all the actors and things of that nature. You know,

13:54 Speaker 4: as it relates to who to trust, where do we

13:57 Speaker 4: place most of our trust, which with which public figures?

14:01 Speaker 4: You know, I've got my people who I look to

14:04 Speaker 4: to try to you know, who do I trust on

14:06 Speaker 4: this topic? Who do I trust on this topic. Of course,

14:08 Speaker 4: it's never gonna be a hundred percent, nor should it be.

14:10 Speaker 4: But if you look at the the entire field of

14:14 Speaker 4: UFO disclosure and the and the personalities in it, you know,

14:18 Speaker 4: I think each one of us are gonna it's not a.

14:21 Speaker 3: Black and white thing.

14:22 Speaker 4: It's a spectrum, right, and I think that we have

14:24 Speaker 4: to take in as much information as possible, right.

14:28 Speaker 2: We shouldn't.

14:29 Speaker 3: We shouldn't necessarily choose sides.

14:31 Speaker 4: This isn't like what what's your favorite football team and

14:34 Speaker 4: like like it's you know, uh, we have to be

14:38 Speaker 4: a little bit more careful, a little bit more nuanced

14:40 Speaker 4: with with this information.

14:43 Speaker 2: That's it. It's a really good point. It's a really

14:46 Speaker 2: really good point. So with that being said, GB gurb

14:53 Speaker 2: in them. The thing that is kind of surprising me

14:56 Speaker 2: the most about it all. Oh I turned that by accident.

15:01 Speaker 2: I'll fix that in a minute. But what's surprising is

15:04 Speaker 2: now it's used to only come from the bottom up right,

15:10 Speaker 2: like it was it was lou Crue and then like

15:14 Speaker 2: it was the the people who loved him, there was

15:16 Speaker 2: the people that loved him, and they're the people that

15:18 Speaker 2: love him like kind of love him, love him yeah,

15:25 Speaker 2: and to the people that hate him, like, they don't

15:28 Speaker 2: just dislike him, they it's this really weird dichotomy. I've

15:35 Speaker 2: never seen someone so polarizing, Like not even doctor Greer,

15:40 Speaker 2: I would argue, is as polarizing in in retrospect, like

15:45 Speaker 2: if ten years from now looking back on it, unless

15:49 Speaker 2: Alizondo like comes out and shows us the body. Uh.

15:53 Speaker 2: He's just he's been so polarizing in such a short

15:56 Speaker 2: time that you know, I I think he's arguably more

16:02 Speaker 2: than more than Greer, and Greer's kind of like kind

16:05 Speaker 2: of like slipped away lately. Did you notice that?

16:09 Speaker 3: You know.

16:10 Speaker 4: I'm happy you brought up Greer because I was actually

16:12 Speaker 4: going to go there next. Greer, I think, was the

16:15 Speaker 4: first one I heard being critical of Alessando, being skeptical

16:20 Speaker 4: of Alessando. But this is years ago, and I'm thinking,

16:23 Speaker 4: why is he so hard on Alessando?

16:25 Speaker 3: Alessando?

16:26 Speaker 4: You know, it seems like he's coming out and trying

16:28 Speaker 4: to release this information. He seems genuine with his intent

16:32 Speaker 4: behind this. But right, Stephen Greer is one of these

16:36 Speaker 4: people who I place more inherent trust because he is

16:41 Speaker 4: number one, a political number two, unaffiliated with with any

16:48 Speaker 4: government organization.

16:49 Speaker 3: Now, certainly he's a controversial figure. Everything I don't I

16:57 Speaker 3: never heard that he worked.

16:58 Speaker 4: He was he was a he was a surgeon who

17:00 Speaker 4: got into this, and he was doing this long before

17:04 Speaker 4: it was cool. Man, And to be doing this for

17:07 Speaker 4: that long you got and you got to give that

17:11 Speaker 4: guy a whole lot of credit too. Now I don't

17:13 Speaker 4: know the deep history, all the ins and outs, but

17:16 Speaker 4: I'm inclined.

17:17 Speaker 3: To take what he has to say quite seriously.

17:20 Speaker 4: And this is the thing, you know, I was once offered, Hey,

17:24 Speaker 4: someone once asked me a hypothetical question. You know, if

17:27 Speaker 4: if I could, if I could gain a lot more

17:32 Speaker 4: exposure for the work that I'm doing with Mars, but

17:36 Speaker 4: I would have to be affiliated with a presidential administration.

17:40 Speaker 3: What I want to do that?

17:41 Speaker 4: And I don't want to do that. I do not

17:44 Speaker 4: want to be affiliated with any government entity, especially any

17:47 Speaker 4: political entity, because then there's going that along with that

17:53 Speaker 4: brings core inherent skepticism. People are going to be distrustful.

17:59 Speaker 4: You know. I hope that I never get accused of being,

18:04 Speaker 4: you know, playing a syop or something like that. People

18:07 Speaker 4: just like to throw that word around when they don't

18:10 Speaker 4: like somebody. Oh, he's just a sy up. He's doing

18:12 Speaker 4: a sigh up and things like that. Like I'm you know,

18:16 Speaker 4: all I have right now is my credibility, and I

18:20 Speaker 4: look to the people who are doing this and who

18:23 Speaker 4: are doing this with in my opinion, noble efforts, who

18:28 Speaker 4: aren't necessarily making a whole lot of money on it.

18:30 Speaker 4: Although I'm not necessarily critical of that, if you can

18:33 Speaker 4: understand public relations in a way to somebody has to

18:37 Speaker 4: report on this stuff, and it's a capitalist society of

18:40 Speaker 4: no problem making money on it, but you have to

18:43 Speaker 4: figure out where that money is coming from. And I

18:46 Speaker 4: think my main criticism of Greer is that he doesn't

18:48 Speaker 4: understand public relations well enough. And I don't think it's

18:53 Speaker 4: his fault that he's fallen by the way. Sid He's

18:55 Speaker 4: still doing what he's doing, but he doesn't necessarily have

18:58 Speaker 4: a He's a well spoken person, but I get the

19:02 Speaker 4: sense that his reputation suggests that he is, you know,

19:07 Speaker 4: a highly polarizing figure. He's not a very fun person

19:10 Speaker 4: to be around. And you know, I don't know all

19:13 Speaker 4: of his experiences, but you know, I'm sure he's rubbed

19:18 Speaker 4: people the wrong way. You know, he has made some

19:22 Speaker 4: wonderful documentaries with with filmmaker Mike Mozzola. You know, I

19:26 Speaker 4: don't know these guys personally. I pressed by some of those.

19:30 Speaker 2: I would argue that Unacknowledged is up there with like

19:34 Speaker 2: the top five, I would argue.

19:36 Speaker 4: That Unacknowledged is great. Lost Century would blew my frickin' mind.

19:41 Speaker 4: And I like production graality quality was fantastic.

19:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked it. But and and and I'll give

19:49 Speaker 2: Career credit where credit is due. He didn't. He didn't

19:54 Speaker 2: stray too far, like this was about the lost civilization

19:59 Speaker 2: and how to reclaim it, right, It wasn't. It didn't

20:02 Speaker 2: swing over to full ufology right right. He really kept

20:07 Speaker 2: the topical element alive on that one, which I actually

20:11 Speaker 2: respected a lot. Yeah. I think he puts out some

20:15 Speaker 2: of the best, the best films. But I also think

20:19 Speaker 2: James Fox is up there with you know, with what

20:23 Speaker 2: he does too.

20:24 Speaker 3: Oh well, James James Fox a great filmmaker.

20:27 Speaker 4: I was just commenting on the filmmaker that uh works

20:30 Speaker 4: with Mozol. Yeah, he's He's done some great work there,

20:34 Speaker 4: and I know he'd probably some other stuff there. I

20:37 Speaker 4: think if more people watch The Lost Century, they like

20:40 Speaker 4: Stephen Greer, a little bit more. It's just you know, uh,

20:44 Speaker 4: with with his personality, maybe it's just not as very

20:47 Speaker 4: engaging with the media, Like the media has to like you.

20:50 Speaker 4: That's how you get so much coverage is you have

20:52 Speaker 4: to be likable. And I think Stephen Geer's inherent problems

20:56 Speaker 4: that he's just not as likable as everybody else, Right,

20:59 Speaker 4: But that me tells me that he is a little

21:02 Speaker 4: bit more connected to the truth and not really biased

21:09 Speaker 4: or influenced rather by people who want to manipulate the narrative.

21:13 Speaker 3: Now, look, this is just my general feeling.

21:15 Speaker 4: Of course, Steven Greer is going to be a polarizing

21:17 Speaker 4: figure and people might might disagree here or there, but

21:20 Speaker 4: you know, it's all a spectrum.

21:22 Speaker 2: I think one of the greatest debates ever would be

21:30 Speaker 2: Greer Elizondo fucking I don't care. Put Jesse Michaels there

21:36 Speaker 2: to mediate it, right they you know whatever, Put Put

21:41 Speaker 2: one of these guys in there to mediate it. Put

21:43 Speaker 2: me in there to mediate it. I don't know, but

21:47 Speaker 2: I think that that would be, like short of like

21:50 Speaker 2: them divulging into name calling, like that might be the

21:56 Speaker 2: single greatest like that's up that might be up there

21:59 Speaker 2: with him. Hillary Trump Debate number one right right, like

22:06 Speaker 2: that's fucking electric TV right there.

22:09 Speaker 3: I'd pay to see that.

22:11 Speaker 2: What Lou Steven, Let's go, come on, we'll we'll fund it.

22:17 Speaker 2: Let's go baby. All right, Brian, listen, you've done a

22:23 Speaker 2: lot of hard work. Blue Blue Planet Red is the documentary.

22:31 Speaker 2: All the links for everything that you all your stuff

22:34 Speaker 2: will be in the description below for people on the replay.

22:38 Speaker 2: And I want to get into how after we I'm

22:46 Speaker 2: just gonna play the quick ad break and just get

22:48 Speaker 2: it over with ninety seconds. Will be right back, great

22:52 Speaker 2: bannswer session. We're all I'm feeling loose. I'm feeling a

22:55 Speaker 2: little bit better when we come back. I want to

23:00 Speaker 2: hear about how you first got into looking at Mars.

23:05 Speaker 2: Where did the fascination come from? Did you see that?

23:10 Speaker 3: Yep, it's happening again.

23:13 Speaker 2: Dude, guys, I can't make this shit up. I mean,

23:19 Speaker 2: last time, people were accusing me. By the way, I

23:22 Speaker 2: want to set the record straight. In that live stream,

23:28 Speaker 2: people were saying I was looking down. I was, my

23:32 Speaker 2: laptop was on the desk and I was looking down

23:36 Speaker 2: at the chat. But I was doing that the whole episode.

23:40 Speaker 2: I did not. I've I shelved a whole documentary because

23:46 Speaker 2: someone asked me to stage something. I shelved three years

23:52 Speaker 2: of work because someone asked me to stage something. No,

23:55 Speaker 2: I didn't stage the fucking light dimming, like, come on,

24:00 Speaker 2: but it's just gonna keep happening, y'all see, y'all will

24:04 Speaker 2: see my microphones explode. But we'll be right back, guys.

24:10 Speaker 2: This is I'm already tuned up and I'm a little

24:14 Speaker 2: I'm a little sick, so I took some mom what's

24:17 Speaker 2: that shit called day quill, So it's kicking in. Brother,

24:25 Speaker 2: I'm about to go a whole comdiac on your on

24:28 Speaker 2: on on this show. But yeah, we'll be right back guys,

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26:03 Speaker 2: Now back to the show. I got to fix that.

26:08 Speaker 2: Ending back to the show. It sounds like so terrible,

26:12 Speaker 2: but all right, guys, So Brian, I am going to

26:16 Speaker 2: let you take the lead here. How did you get

26:21 Speaker 2: into the topic of Mars and how did you you

26:25 Speaker 2: know what led you down this path? Talk to me

26:29 Speaker 2: a little bit about your origins.

26:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll try to keep it brief here. You know,

26:35 Speaker 4: I've worked in nine to five like most other people

26:38 Speaker 4: until up till about COVID. And then my girlfriend suggested

26:44 Speaker 4: that I read a book by Graham Hancock, a called

26:49 Speaker 4: Fingerprints of the Gods, which I'm sure most people are

26:52 Speaker 4: aware of. I had never heard about any of this stuff,

26:55 Speaker 4: and I read it and I didn't get it. I

26:57 Speaker 4: thought this was fiction, and I'm like, what the hell

26:59 Speaker 4: is this? I didn't hear about any of this stuff.

27:02 Speaker 4: Then I finished it and I'm like, this is this

27:05 Speaker 4: is crazy. This seems like there's more to our past,

27:08 Speaker 4: there's more going on with our past than I was

27:12 Speaker 4: previously aware of. So I became a fan of Graham Hancock,

27:16 Speaker 4: just relatively, you know, four years ago or so. And

27:20 Speaker 4: then I was looking at his collection of books, and

27:23 Speaker 4: as it turns out, most people don't know this, but

27:24 Speaker 4: he's got a whole book written about Mars. Really, yes, really,

27:32 Speaker 4: it's called The Mars Mystery. And in it he's talking

27:36 Speaker 4: about the same kind of things that I've been talking

27:39 Speaker 4: about for the past few years. And this book was

27:42 Speaker 4: written in the late nineties, okay, and it talks it

27:46 Speaker 4: discusses NASA's Viking mission in the seventies to Mars and

27:49 Speaker 4: what they found primarily, and what they found was evidence

27:55 Speaker 4: for life and an ancient civilization. So the book has

28:01 Speaker 4: since been ridiculed quite a bit. I think Graham has

28:04 Speaker 4: distanced himself from it because there's a you know, with Mars,

28:08 Speaker 4: there's a lot of baggage, there's a lot of inherent

28:10 Speaker 4: baggage with it.

28:11 Speaker 3: The face on Mars, we could go through it.

28:14 Speaker 4: But as it turns out, there's a whole new generation

28:17 Speaker 4: of Mars researchers. Hello to people who are joining us,

28:22 Speaker 4: there's a whole there's a whole new generation of of

28:25 Speaker 4: Mars reachers or researchers who are finding all sorts of

28:29 Speaker 4: stuff tie and most the public is mostly unaware of this.

28:34 Speaker 4: I want to give credit to a man by the

28:36 Speaker 4: name of Richard Hoagland, who in the eighties spearheaded the

28:41 Speaker 4: modern day Mars disclosure movement.

28:44 Speaker 3: I don't think it was called that there you go

28:45 Speaker 3: Mars mystery.

28:47 Speaker 4: But in the wake of the Viking mission, which was

28:52 Speaker 4: NASA's incredible mission to Mars.

28:56 Speaker 3: Uh.

28:56 Speaker 4: They were, they were photographing some interesting things on this surface.

29:01 Speaker 4: And back then we had you know, lower resolution stuff,

29:03 Speaker 4: but we can still make out some anomalous stuff. And

29:07 Speaker 4: so a man by the name of Richard Hogland put

29:09 Speaker 4: together sort of a superhero team of independent scientists who

29:14 Speaker 4: would evaluate the data and analyze it from a completely

29:18 Speaker 4: different point of view than what NASA was doing, because

29:21 Speaker 4: NASA is like, there's nothing to see here, and Richard

29:24 Speaker 4: Hogland and company saw things differently, and they had public

29:29 Speaker 4: relations campaigns over the years, blah blah blah.

29:31 Speaker 3: Its so sort of fizzled out.

29:33 Speaker 4: The public's interest in it fizzled out, maybe at the

29:37 Speaker 4: turn of the century. However, there have since then there

29:40 Speaker 4: have been a new crop of researchers, both you know,

29:45 Speaker 4: professional and independent, who have done a lot of work

29:49 Speaker 4: analyzing Mars, Mars's NASA's Mars data, publishing research papers on it,

29:55 Speaker 4: publishing things to the internet.

29:57 Speaker 1: Uh.

29:58 Speaker 4: And what I do is I cover the people, so

30:03 Speaker 4: I don't do the research itself.

30:05 Speaker 3: When I research the researchers and I try to report

30:08 Speaker 3: on all.

30:08 Speaker 4: I'm sort of like maybe yourself a nexus point of

30:12 Speaker 4: all things Mars disclosure. So you were telling me a

30:17 Speaker 4: few minutes ago about how there might be something in

30:20 Speaker 4: the news that you have twelve people contact you about it.

30:22 Speaker 3: The same thing for me, but as it relates to Mars.

30:25 Speaker 4: Now, fortunately we you know your podcast, total disclosure. In

30:31 Speaker 4: my opinion, disclosure has to include Mars. Based on what

30:36 Speaker 4: I've seen, what we continue to see. There is some overlap,

30:42 Speaker 4: like here's an image you just have up here. This

30:44 Speaker 4: is what most people are familiar with, a boring, desolate,

30:48 Speaker 4: rocky landscape. And that's what NASA is really good at,

30:51 Speaker 4: just putting these pictures out of to the public saying hey,

30:53 Speaker 4: look here's Mars. Everybody, look at the rocks in rock. Yeah,

31:01 Speaker 4: there's rocks and weather on Mars. And that's about it.

31:03 Speaker 4: That's all NASA really does. NASA does great work with engineering,

31:09 Speaker 4: Like I want to credit NASA for furthering our understanding

31:12 Speaker 4: of the universe and the Solar system, et cetera, et cetera. Unfortunately,

31:16 Speaker 4: they've discovered a whole lot that they're just not talking about.

31:20 Speaker 4: The data is there. All my work is based off

31:22 Speaker 4: of their own data. And when I say data, that

31:25 Speaker 4: includes photographs. Okay, so photographs are admissible in court as evidence,

31:33 Speaker 4: and we've got so much good stuff tie over thirty

31:39 Speaker 4: forty years now, high resolution photography, multiple rover missions that

31:44 Speaker 4: we've got more eyes looking at this. We're citing sources,

31:48 Speaker 4: and I'm in touch with now with a community which

31:50 Speaker 4: I'd like to highlight their work because you know, I'm

31:54 Speaker 4: at the nexus point of all all things Mars, disclosure, biology, palaeontology,

32:00 Speaker 4: archaeology and UFOs.

32:05 Speaker 3: That were here.

32:06 Speaker 4: You know, we could start talking off today because there's

32:10 Speaker 4: so much really cool stuff there happening.

32:13 Speaker 3: So much.

32:14 Speaker 4: After I read Graham Hancock's book, I read another book

32:17 Speaker 4: by doctor John Brandenberg. I'm like, I got to do

32:20 Speaker 4: something about this because I'm a filmmaker. And I said, well,

32:24 Speaker 4: what needs to be done is that there needs to

32:27 Speaker 4: be some sort of comprehensive Mars documentary. And I looked

32:30 Speaker 4: around like there wasn't anything. All this data was published,

32:34 Speaker 4: but it just wasn't all put together. And when you

32:36 Speaker 4: put it all together, the totality of evidence paints a

32:39 Speaker 4: very different picture of Mars than the one that most.

32:42 Speaker 3: People are familiar with.

32:45 Speaker 4: And if you understand all of the facets towards all

32:51 Speaker 4: of these interesting discoveries that NASA has made yet doesn't

32:55 Speaker 4: really comment on. Then you'll start to understand what it

33:00 Speaker 4: is that I'm talking about. So I really thank you

33:01 Speaker 4: for your interest in having me on the show today,

33:05 Speaker 4: because I think this is going to blow a lot

33:07 Speaker 4: of people's minds absolutely.

33:09 Speaker 2: I mean, this is one of those topics that's just

33:12 Speaker 2: like it is so interesting to me that, you know,

33:17 Speaker 2: because I have a lot of theories myself on you

33:21 Speaker 2: know what, like in my in my opinion, maybe one

33:26 Speaker 2: of the things we can start with is this idea

33:32 Speaker 2: that humans may have, Like we all know that there's

33:37 Speaker 2: a big scar across Mars, right and that there some

33:43 Speaker 2: say that there was another planet in our solar system

33:47 Speaker 2: and that it impacted Mars, and there was life on Mars,

33:52 Speaker 2: intelligent life that escaped and they went they came to Earth,

33:58 Speaker 2: and that is why our biological clocks or more tuned

34:02 Speaker 2: to Mars. You know, the sun burns. Us uh. We

34:08 Speaker 2: stood you know, if you're going by evolution, We shed

34:12 Speaker 2: our fur only to need pelts in the winter. We

34:15 Speaker 2: stood up only to have back pain, you know, we

34:19 Speaker 2: don't we also, like you look at every other thing

34:23 Speaker 2: in the every other creature, every other insect, every other animal.

34:30 Speaker 2: It seems to have this delicate balance with the ecosystem

34:35 Speaker 2: and it takes what it needs, but it doesn't it doesn't,

34:41 Speaker 2: you know, it's a it's a perfect balance. Humans we

34:47 Speaker 2: take and take and take and take and take and

34:49 Speaker 2: take and take. Rarely do we give back a small percentage.

34:57 Speaker 2: Have you ever heard this theory?

35:01 Speaker 3: Yes?

35:02 Speaker 4: And actually one of my goals tie is to try

35:05 Speaker 4: to thread that needle just right, because I do think

35:08 Speaker 4: there is some amount of truth to it. Although because

35:12 Speaker 4: I'm such a nuts and bolts guy, it's a lot

35:15 Speaker 4: harder of a it's a challenging task to try to

35:23 Speaker 4: We've that narrative in where the origin of humanity was

35:28 Speaker 4: on Mars and then came to Earth. We do have

35:30 Speaker 4: mythological texts, you know, of which I am not inherently

35:36 Speaker 4: familiar with. I just hear about them, and it's something

35:40 Speaker 4: I need to get to eventually. I am in touch

35:43 Speaker 4: with you know, we're gonna go on the deep end

35:45 Speaker 4: just just for a moment here.

35:48 Speaker 3: I am in touch with remote viewers and channelers.

35:56 Speaker 4: So if you entertain the metaphysical analysis aspect of Mars disclosure,

36:02 Speaker 4: a lot of what they have to say supports exactly

36:05 Speaker 4: what you just said. The challenge is how do you

36:08 Speaker 4: communicate that to the public who is still sort of

36:12 Speaker 4: adopting and emerging their interest or gaining interest in the

36:20 Speaker 4: metaphysical I think it's coming more and more mainstream, so

36:26 Speaker 4: that you know, that's something that I say for like

36:29 Speaker 4: the the the later levels, the the two or one

36:33 Speaker 4: or the three oh one version of Mars disclosure, I

36:36 Speaker 4: like to try to focus on one oh one, especially

36:39 Speaker 4: for those people who have never heard about any of

36:41 Speaker 4: this stuff no time.

36:42 Speaker 3: Most people don't even know that there's water on Mars.

36:45 Speaker 2: Right right, and not just a little, like a lot,

36:51 Speaker 2: especially at the polar at the caps.

36:54 Speaker 4: You know, yes, yes, so the polar ice caps are

36:57 Speaker 4: mostly H two oh.

36:58 Speaker 3: You can see them with the telescope.

37:00 Speaker 4: However, buried across the entire planet, just a few centimeters

37:04 Speaker 4: down is ice. So a lot of you know, Mars

37:08 Speaker 4: used to be this blue planet. This is why I

37:10 Speaker 4: title a blue planet red. It was once a blue

37:11 Speaker 4: planet like Earth, but then something terrible happened to it,

37:15 Speaker 4: which is a part of what I cover exactly what happened,

37:20 Speaker 4: and then a lot of that water evaporated and a

37:22 Speaker 4: lot of it kind of sublimated down into the soil

37:27 Speaker 4: and froze. But as we know, ty, where there's water,

37:32 Speaker 4: there's life, even if it's ice.

37:35 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, sir so yeah, And you know, I find

37:43 Speaker 2: it to be quite telling that, like, you know, not

37:48 Speaker 2: not just from our like modern day, but since humans

37:56 Speaker 2: looked up, they always found the red planet as this

38:01 Speaker 2: this thing, right, this thing that could affect you physiologically.

38:06 Speaker 2: You know. Now it's like people talk about Mars and

38:09 Speaker 2: retrogade and stuff, and like, while I don't necessarily believe

38:12 Speaker 2: that that kind of thing, like, there is a reason

38:15 Speaker 2: and a mystery that people look up to Mars, the

38:18 Speaker 2: red planet, and they see this this bought this celestial

38:23 Speaker 2: object that is an enigma wrapped in a mystery, wrapped

38:27 Speaker 2: in you know, like just this this cosmic detectives like

38:34 Speaker 2: documentary and is it? Is it? It's also true that

38:39 Speaker 2: that NASA has shaped the public perception of Mars as

38:44 Speaker 2: being this desolate, rusty terrain when in reality, Uh, I

38:52 Speaker 2: don't think that's actually the case, is it?

38:55 Speaker 4: I Mean, Mars is red because it's covered in rust. Okay,

39:00 Speaker 4: but what does that tell us?

39:02 Speaker 2: Right? But if you're on Mars, is it as orange

39:05 Speaker 2: as this?

39:06 Speaker 3: Ah?

39:07 Speaker 4: Well, I think what you're alluding to is how NASA

39:11 Speaker 4: has unfortunately, for a long period of time, manipulated the

39:18 Speaker 4: colors of these rover photographs, making it appear a lot

39:23 Speaker 4: more red than it actually is, including the sky. Mars

39:26 Speaker 4: sky is actually a whole lot more like ours. It's

39:29 Speaker 4: depending on the time of day. It could be blue,

39:32 Speaker 4: it could be purple, you know, reddish and orange depending

39:35 Speaker 4: on where the sun is in sunset and things of

39:37 Speaker 4: that nature. But you know, if you look at the

39:40 Speaker 4: Perseverance Rover landing video with there's a camera looking straight

39:43 Speaker 4: up in the sky and it's a blue sky. So

39:48 Speaker 4: why does NASA want to try to hide that from us?

39:50 Speaker 4: You know, we can only speculate, but we have, you know,

39:53 Speaker 4: reason to believe that they they want to paint a

39:56 Speaker 4: picture of Mars where it.

39:57 Speaker 3: Is not a habitable world. And it's not. I mean,

40:00 Speaker 3: if we show up there tomorrow, it's it's no.

40:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not gonna be We're not just gonna plant

40:05 Speaker 2: the flag and fucking live there.

40:07 Speaker 1: No.

40:08 Speaker 2: So uh, but I think I have the picture you

40:12 Speaker 2: just referenced. Is this it?

40:15 Speaker 3: Yeah?

40:16 Speaker 4: I mean this this is a good picture here. This

40:18 Speaker 4: is a more color accurate picture where you can see

40:23 Speaker 4: that that just.

40:24 Speaker 2: Looks like we're in like the Nevada desert, right Arizona.

40:26 Speaker 3: It does, it does. So NASA has started fixing this problem.

40:33 Speaker 2: But there's a huge you do agree that there's a

40:36 Speaker 2: huge difference between this and this, of course, Okay, we

40:42 Speaker 2: can all agree that that that's like, that's almost kind

40:46 Speaker 2: of But by the way, this one's one of my

40:48 Speaker 2: favorite little like what is that? Dude, what the fuck

40:52 Speaker 2: is that? But I didn't mean to put that one

40:55 Speaker 2: up there, But there's a huge difference between the color

40:58 Speaker 2: grading there.

41:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they started doing that day one as soon

41:04 Speaker 4: as they started getting back lander photos from the Viking

41:07 Speaker 4: Lander in nineteen seventy six. You know, I for the film,

41:12 Speaker 4: I interviewed a lot of people, including a gentleman by

41:16 Speaker 4: the name of Ron Levin, who is the son of

41:18 Speaker 4: doctor Gillivin. Gilivin was the person who designed one of

41:21 Speaker 4: the biology experiments that went to Mars in nineteen seventy six,

41:25 Speaker 4: and Ron was in the control room as a you know,

41:29 Speaker 4: twenty young twenty something, and you know, we're going to work.

41:33 Speaker 3: With his father.

41:34 Speaker 4: His father's working on NASA's is really cool. But he's

41:36 Speaker 4: looking at all the monitors and they're beaming back the pictures,

41:39 Speaker 4: and all the monitors immediately start showing Mars with the

41:42 Speaker 4: blue sky. And immediately one of the technicians went around

41:46 Speaker 4: to all the monitors, you know, these analog monitors started

41:49 Speaker 4: turning knobs to make it appear less blue, like.

41:52 Speaker 3: Ooh, right off the bat.

41:55 Speaker 4: So I, you know, I interviewed Ron for the film

41:57 Speaker 4: and he recounts the story and he says, then I

42:00 Speaker 4: went and I changed them all back to the proper color.

42:02 Speaker 2: Aha.

42:03 Speaker 3: They got in trouble for it.

42:05 Speaker 4: So immediately they're starting to like, oh my god, what

42:08 Speaker 4: this marsh shouldn't look like this?

42:10 Speaker 3: Why does it look like this?

42:12 Speaker 4: And I think the basic idea is that NASA doesn't

42:16 Speaker 4: want to give the public any reason to believe that

42:22 Speaker 4: Mars is a lot more like Earth than you know,

42:27 Speaker 4: this this dead planet that they really want to tell

42:29 Speaker 4: us that it is.

42:30 Speaker 2: But why do that? Now? We could argue, right, we

42:36 Speaker 2: could argue that NASA fights for their funding per year, right, Yeah,

42:44 Speaker 2: why not let it slip out that Mars is maybe

42:49 Speaker 2: more habitable than we anticipated and get public support for

42:55 Speaker 2: more missions. And act because the space race only worked

43:00 Speaker 2: because the populace was behind it. Right, Look where look

43:05 Speaker 2: where modern space exploration has has has ended up. It's

43:10 Speaker 2: ended up, you know, mostly in the private sector at

43:15 Speaker 2: this point, and public interest has waned like very And

43:22 Speaker 2: this this didn't just happen like recently. This was during

43:27 Speaker 2: the Apollo missions where public interests started to wane because

43:33 Speaker 2: there's there's only so many times you can land and

43:38 Speaker 2: it be this cultural moment, right, so why not try

43:43 Speaker 2: to recreate that that drive where they're funding kicks up?

43:49 Speaker 2: And or is there something on Mars that they want

43:52 Speaker 2: to keep secret so that they can specifically exploit it

43:57 Speaker 2: and and let like keep the rest of the world

44:01 Speaker 2: in the dark about what might actually be there and

44:03 Speaker 2: what the potential that's untapped.

44:05 Speaker 4: Literally, this is going to sound conspiratorial. This is going

44:11 Speaker 4: to sound like will we do my friend? I can

44:14 Speaker 4: address this directly. This is going to sound like X files.

44:18 Speaker 4: But there is everything that I say I can back

44:22 Speaker 4: up to an official source. Okay, there is something called

44:25 Speaker 4: the Brookings Institution Report.

44:28 Speaker 3: Have you heard of this?

44:29 Speaker 2: I course have heard of this, yes.

44:31 Speaker 4: Okay, so it basically advises NASA. Hey, look back in

44:36 Speaker 4: nineteen sixty NA. So you're going out and outer space,

44:38 Speaker 4: you might find some stuff once you start landing on

44:41 Speaker 4: these planets.

44:42 Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing here. If you happen to come across any.

44:46 Speaker 4: Artifacts or ruins or signs of an ancient civilization, you

44:51 Speaker 4: might want to think twice before you tell the public,

44:54 Speaker 4: because if you tell the public, they might freak out

44:57 Speaker 4: cause panic and society it's elf might crumble. So this

45:02 Speaker 4: is you can there's a Wikipedia page about this thing, okay,

45:07 Speaker 4: and this is directly related to what we believe NASA's

45:14 Speaker 4: playbook is. I've spoken with the people who've been studying

45:18 Speaker 4: this stuff and who've been working on this stuff for decades,

45:20 Speaker 4: and they said, basically, this has been institutionalized. They have

45:23 Speaker 4: reason to believe that this playbook has been institutionalized, and

45:26 Speaker 4: they're still running.

45:27 Speaker 3: This playbook today. So now, if I'm.

45:30 Speaker 4: Trying to be fair here, if I'm in charge of

45:33 Speaker 4: the country or the world, do I want mass chaos?

45:37 Speaker 2: No?

45:37 Speaker 4: I mean I enjoy my peaceful life. So do I

45:39 Speaker 4: want to be responsible for totally disrupting paradigms and causing

45:46 Speaker 4: the world to go into turmoil. No. However, at some

45:50 Speaker 4: point we have to be honest with what with the public,

45:53 Speaker 4: with what we're finding up there, and I now, in

45:59 Speaker 4: the wake disclosure now becoming popular and hip and fun.

46:04 Speaker 4: I argue that NASA, that SpaceX, that the Mars Society,

46:10 Speaker 4: that these Mars focused organizations, I argue that they should

46:16 Speaker 4: adopt Mars disclosure and their messaging to the public because

46:21 Speaker 4: I do think, like the Space race, that would galvanize

46:24 Speaker 4: public support to get more funding to go to Mars quicker. Okay,

46:29 Speaker 4: not just for colonization purposes. Mars is a crime scene, Okay,

46:37 Speaker 4: it's we've got to figure out exactly what happened. We

46:43 Speaker 4: have a good idea about what happened. But you know,

46:46 Speaker 4: when you have a crime scene, what do you do?

46:49 Speaker 4: You study it first before you you know, say okay,

46:55 Speaker 4: all clear, you can start using the space again. So

46:58 Speaker 4: until we do that, I don't I really don't think

47:01 Speaker 4: we can just say, hey, let's put boots on the

47:03 Speaker 4: ground and start planning flags. We really got to go

47:06 Speaker 4: there and investigate further what we are already looking at

47:11 Speaker 4: with remote landers, rovers and orbiters. You know, we'll get

47:16 Speaker 4: into the details here. So I do think it's okay

47:20 Speaker 4: now for them to take a different approach because NASA

47:23 Speaker 4: has NASA traditionally speaking, has not been in.

47:27 Speaker 3: The business of disclosure. They want to be.

47:29 Speaker 4: They're a mostly trusted organization that people feel safe.

47:36 Speaker 3: Talking about.

47:37 Speaker 4: NASA doesn't want to get into the weeds about any

47:39 Speaker 4: of this disclosure stuff, and it as it relates to

47:41 Speaker 4: Mars disclosure specifically, imagine the most horrifying aspects of UFO disclosure.

47:47 Speaker 4: TI that all the terrible things that Stephen Greer talks about, Okay,

47:50 Speaker 4: abductions and things like that, trafficking blah blah blah blah blah.

47:54 Speaker 3: That's like the deep end. Okay, that's the terrible shit

47:57 Speaker 3: that we hear about.

47:59 Speaker 4: There's a whole lot of terrible shit with Mars, and

48:03 Speaker 4: if people knew what that terrible shit was, they might

48:08 Speaker 4: freak the fuck out. You think they might because it's terrifying.

48:18 Speaker 2: Okay, tell me what's terrifying about it?

48:24 Speaker 4: Well, top level here, the planet used to be blue

48:32 Speaker 4: like Earth. It was it was like Earth before Earth

48:36 Speaker 4: was like Earth.

48:37 Speaker 2: Right, so lush, it had atmosphere, greenery, water, Yes, Okay,

48:46 Speaker 2: it's not that anymore so something and obviously there's evidence

48:52 Speaker 2: of a huge fucking tear on the front of it.

48:55 Speaker 4: Yes, what happened to the planet okay, and what happened

49:04 Speaker 4: to it is terrifying.

49:08 Speaker 2: Be a war.

49:10 Speaker 3: Well, I didn't want to spoil it, but.

49:14 Speaker 2: Well, didn't they find zion one there?

49:17 Speaker 3: Yes, the sphere okay.

49:19 Speaker 4: So there's NASA's narrative which makes everybody feel safe. But

49:25 Speaker 4: then there's their data which suggests something completely differently, which

49:31 Speaker 4: does explain the scar and explains the weird nuclear isotopes

49:36 Speaker 4: in the atmosphere and if it was once blue tie

49:44 Speaker 4: with oceans, lakes and rivers and a breathable, thick atmosphere

49:47 Speaker 4: which gave rise to life and arguably intelligent life.

49:53 Speaker 3: And I've got a little bit of a show and

49:54 Speaker 3: tell here which I can show you.

49:57 Speaker 4: Then that means there's an entire humanoid civilization, a global

50:04 Speaker 4: civilization that was wiped out right next door, and.

50:11 Speaker 3: That there are there.

50:13 Speaker 4: Maybe they were us, maybe they were just related to us,

50:17 Speaker 4: Maybe they were just they were right next door. So

50:21 Speaker 4: you know, when I talk about what disclosure is in

50:24 Speaker 4: movie terms, I like to put it this way, like,

50:26 Speaker 4: I think disclosure is a mix between Star Trek, Star Wars,

50:30 Speaker 4: you know, Men in Black, right, But you know when

50:38 Speaker 4: Star Wars opens up and we have Darth Vader annihilating

50:41 Speaker 4: alder On. The evidence collected by NASA and I have

50:49 Speaker 4: vetted this, I have looked into it.

50:51 Speaker 3: John Brandenburg has published on this.

50:53 Speaker 4: The evidence thus far only points to one thing, and

51:01 Speaker 4: that the atmosphere was ignited. This is Oppenheimer's worst fear.

51:06 Speaker 4: For those of us who watched Oppenheimer has that scene

51:08 Speaker 4: with Matt Damon, because they were before the Trinity test,

51:12 Speaker 4: remember this, They were like, what are the chances you're

51:14 Speaker 4: going to ignite the atmosphere annihilate all life on Earth?

51:17 Speaker 3: It's not zero near zero?

51:19 Speaker 2: Right? Uh? Well it's not zero either.

51:27 Speaker 4: That is what happened, and it was not a natural event.

51:37 Speaker 4: So when I say terrifying, I don't know about you,

51:42 Speaker 4: but when I read this in John Brandenburgh's book, I

51:46 Speaker 4: kept I couldn't sleep for three nights tys and I

51:49 Speaker 4: felt compelled to do something about this. Now, if NASA

51:52 Speaker 4: knows this, do they want to come out to the

51:54 Speaker 4: public talking about this? Look, I mean, this is a

51:56 Speaker 4: lot right off the top of the show. I usually

51:58 Speaker 4: try to save this for later.

52:00 Speaker 3: You brought it up. Who can talk about it? No problem?

52:02 Speaker 3: But NASA knows this.

52:04 Speaker 4: I have talked to nuclear weapons experts about this. I

52:08 Speaker 4: have vetted this. I NASA refused to sit down with

52:14 Speaker 4: me for an interview. JPL refused to sit down with

52:17 Speaker 4: me for an interview. Lawrence Liverpool Or National Laboratory refused

52:20 Speaker 4: to sit down with me. NATO refused to sit down

52:23 Speaker 4: with me. Georgia Tech Steve Bugowski nuclear physicists, nuclear weapons expert,

52:29 Speaker 4: refuses to sit down with me. But he did communicate

52:31 Speaker 4: with me over email, and I have not yet seen

52:35 Speaker 4: anything that tells me otherwise. There's a lot of detail

52:40 Speaker 4: involved with this because it sounds nuts.

52:43 Speaker 3: Believe me.

52:44 Speaker 2: I know.

52:45 Speaker 3: This is why I wanted.

52:48 Speaker 4: To make sure that this was absolutely water tight before

52:52 Speaker 4: I messaged on it.

52:54 Speaker 3: And as far as I can tell, it is.

52:57 Speaker 2: Who That's a yah. I mean, admittedly that is a

53:02 Speaker 2: terrifying notion, because what that signals is that, I mean,

53:14 Speaker 2: at any moment we could we could light we can

53:18 Speaker 2: light this candle and there's no going back, no going back.

53:25 Speaker 2: And I mean yeah, I mean so when you say

53:36 Speaker 2: the atmosphere, I mean it ignited. I know we might

53:43 Speaker 2: be getting into some speculative territory here, but what does

53:49 Speaker 2: John say that cause the ignition? Is this warring factions?

53:54 Speaker 2: Is this a civilization that got too greedy? You know what?

53:59 Speaker 2: What what was his thesis on what that could be?

54:02 Speaker 2: I know, there's no way we can definitively know, but

54:06 Speaker 2: what was kind of the consensus?

54:09 Speaker 4: We can entertain a few ideas. There's never gonna be

54:13 Speaker 4: any certainty on this. We'll rather until we go there

54:17 Speaker 4: and start collecting more data boots on the ground. All

54:21 Speaker 4: we have is speculation, but one of three things at least, Okay,

54:26 Speaker 4: number one, they did it to themselves. Okay, we could

54:30 Speaker 4: do it to ourselves. However, it's not just nuclear holocaust.

54:37 Speaker 4: It is atmospheric ignition and to do that. The only

54:40 Speaker 4: reason why Oppenheimer wasn't able to ignite the entire atmosphere

54:45 Speaker 4: of Earth was because there wasn't enough energy output from

54:48 Speaker 4: that bomb. In order to create enough energy, you need

54:57 Speaker 4: as much atomic weapons that would fill the empire state

55:01 Speaker 4: building this God damn, Okay, that's how much you need.

55:06 Speaker 4: John Brandenburg did the calculations, all right, This is and

55:10 Speaker 4: this is one to two orders of magnitude more powerful

55:15 Speaker 4: than the media that is credited for killing the dinosaurs. Okay,

55:19 Speaker 4: it is so so much, all right, So if they didn't,

55:26 Speaker 4: I don't I would think they didn't do that to themselves.

55:31 Speaker 4: But if we're entertaining a couple other ideas. Brandenburg, doctor Brandenberg,

55:36 Speaker 4: who has been the only one, by the way, who

55:39 Speaker 4: was published on this, and he's still with us today.

55:44 Speaker 4: He doesn't give it get enough credit. He has never

55:47 Speaker 4: been asked to sign an NDA. He brought this information

55:50 Speaker 4: to the Pentagon. They told him to publish. If they

55:54 Speaker 4: would have told him not to, he would have said okay,

55:56 Speaker 4: But no, they instructed him to publish that.

55:58 Speaker 3: He says. They want this out there, they just don't

56:00 Speaker 3: want to talk about it. Okay.

56:02 Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, but he posits that, well, aliens

56:08 Speaker 4: will just say Aliens are a lot like us. There's

56:11 Speaker 4: some good and some bad, right, Yeah. Maybe maybe the

56:17 Speaker 4: bad guys came and they just wanted to wipe everybody

56:19 Speaker 4: out in this age of AI.

56:22 Speaker 3: Maybe it was AI. This is all speculation. I don't

56:27 Speaker 3: really try to sign.

56:29 Speaker 4: Anything here, okay, because I might lose people.

56:33 Speaker 3: All I really want to do is talk about the

56:35 Speaker 3: nuts and bolts.

56:36 Speaker 4: And what the nuts and bolts say is that there

56:39 Speaker 4: are three radioactive hotspots on the surface of Mars okay,

56:45 Speaker 4: where two large explosions went off, the shockwave wrapped itself

56:51 Speaker 4: around the planet and then collided with itself. And then

56:56 Speaker 4: there's another hot spot on the exact opposite of the planet.

57:00 Speaker 3: Okay.

57:01 Speaker 4: These hotspots are radioactive with thorium and potassium, and thorium

57:06 Speaker 4: is interesting because if you add thorium to an atomic weapon,

57:10 Speaker 4: it boosts the output, Okay, and it makes a whole

57:14 Speaker 4: lot more xenon one twenty nine, which is an isotope

57:17 Speaker 4: of xenon Okay, And the only other thing that makes

57:23 Speaker 4: this level of xenon one twenty nine is a supernova.

57:28 Speaker 4: But a supernova didn't go off and place a bunch

57:33 Speaker 4: of xenon one twenty nine on Mars and nowhere else

57:36 Speaker 4: in the Solar system. That's ridiculous. It would have blown

57:39 Speaker 4: everything up. So clearly something happens, specifically with Mars. Now,

57:44 Speaker 4: there's a lot more that we could go over because

57:46 Speaker 4: there's a lot of speculative there's there's a lot of skepticism.

57:51 Speaker 4: There's a lot of skepticism as a relations to this,

57:53 Speaker 4: but it's only because people don't understand the details. And

57:55 Speaker 4: I understand all these details which would bore some of

57:59 Speaker 4: these people. But this is why I want to try

58:01 Speaker 4: to get nuclear weapons experts engaged in the discussion, because

58:05 Speaker 4: they want to point to.

58:08 Speaker 3: The country of.

58:10 Speaker 4: Gabone, which is a country in Africa which has a

58:14 Speaker 4: uranium mine that millions of years ago, they figured out

58:18 Speaker 4: that water seeped into this uranium mine and it started

58:21 Speaker 4: a natural nuclear reaction.

58:23 Speaker 3: Okay, but there's just one problem that type.

58:28 Speaker 4: Not all nuclear reactions are created equal, and that type

58:31 Speaker 4: of nuclear reaction is similar to what happens in a

58:36 Speaker 4: nuclear power plant. The neutron absorption from one nucleus to

58:41 Speaker 4: another is slow. What they call it s process for slow. Okay,

58:46 Speaker 4: what happens inside the physics that happens inside of a

58:49 Speaker 4: thermonuclear weapon is our process rapid neutron absorption. Okay, so

58:59 Speaker 4: it's not the same thing, and that's the best they got.

59:05 Speaker 4: They can't counter with anything else. So it leads me

59:08 Speaker 4: to believe that Brandenburg really knows his stuff, and then

59:11 Speaker 4: everybody else just wants to pretend like this data doesn't exist.

59:15 Speaker 2: Jesus, So let's go to some of now, because I

59:25 Speaker 2: know you said that that was like a little bit

59:27 Speaker 2: more advanced. Let's go let's kind of take it, take

59:32 Speaker 2: it from the top and give me some entry level, Like,

59:37 Speaker 2: let's do this the way you kind of anticipated. I

59:41 Speaker 2: threw you for a wrench there. Let's go back and like,

59:45 Speaker 2: all right, how would you if I was someone who

59:48 Speaker 2: had never ever talked or understood or have looked into

59:58 Speaker 2: anomalies on Mars and craft being seen in the atmosphere

1:00:04 Speaker 2: of Mars or not in the atmosphere of Mars. What

1:00:07 Speaker 2: little atmosphere there is? Where would you take me? How

1:00:11 Speaker 2: would you take me down this path?

1:00:13 Speaker 3: Yeah?

1:00:13 Speaker 4: Well, ty, for someone like you who's hip to all

1:00:16 Speaker 4: this disclosure stuff, I mean, we'd probably we could start

1:00:19 Speaker 4: with UFOs, which is I'm sure what a lot of

1:00:21 Speaker 4: your listeners would like to see, because there's.

1:00:26 Speaker 3: UFOs on Mars, which will show you.

1:00:28 Speaker 4: But for the uninitiated, the general public, delay person, you know,

1:00:32 Speaker 4: I start with water. Do you know there's water on Mars?

1:00:35 Speaker 4: They keep putting out these news stories. Hey, NASA found

1:00:38 Speaker 4: water on Mars. Guys, this is yesterday's news. This is

1:00:42 Speaker 4: last century's news. Right they confirmed this fifty years ago?

1:00:49 Speaker 4: Okay with Viking. Now Viking was It's something that most

1:00:55 Speaker 4: people don't even know about today. But it was this

1:00:58 Speaker 4: monumental mission to Mars, and in fact, it was a

1:01:02 Speaker 4: double mission Viking one and Viking two, sort of like

1:01:04 Speaker 4: Voyager one and Voyager two. Right, They sent Viking one

1:01:09 Speaker 4: and two to Mars, and each one of them had

1:01:14 Speaker 4: a lander and an orbiter, So there's two landers and

1:01:19 Speaker 4: two orbiters. The landers went down, they just landed, they

1:01:22 Speaker 4: can't move, and they collected soil.

1:01:26 Speaker 3: Samples and did biology tests.

1:01:28 Speaker 4: They did atmospheric measurements, collected a lot of data on

1:01:31 Speaker 4: the ground.

1:01:32 Speaker 3: The orbiters photographed a lot of cool stuff.

1:01:35 Speaker 4: So from all of that data we're able to derive

1:01:40 Speaker 4: some information and some knowledge about this interesting planet right

1:01:45 Speaker 4: next to us. And long story short, they did three

1:01:48 Speaker 4: biology tests and all three of them returned results consistent

1:01:53 Speaker 4: with microbial life active microbial life. So to distill this down,

1:02:00 Speaker 4: NASA discovered microbial life in nineteen seventy six.

1:02:02 Speaker 3: Now, why don't most people know that.

1:02:06 Speaker 2: Right, because that seems like an important discovery.

1:02:10 Speaker 4: It is, and the reason why most people don't know

1:02:13 Speaker 4: it is very stupid. Here it is, they sent three

1:02:19 Speaker 4: biology tests. They also sent one organics test. Okay, there's

1:02:28 Speaker 4: a difference between active life and organic material. When you

1:02:33 Speaker 4: think organic material. You think when a leaf falls from

1:02:36 Speaker 4: a tree and it decays. Okay, when you compost stuff

1:02:40 Speaker 4: all that organic material, it's not alive, but it's the

1:02:43 Speaker 4: building blocks, right. They didn't find any organic material in

1:02:48 Speaker 4: the soil of Mars in nineteen seventy six because their

1:02:56 Speaker 4: test wasn't good enough.

1:03:00 Speaker 2: Ah, the old we didn't do well.

1:03:04 Speaker 4: They found organic material later when they got better equipment

1:03:08 Speaker 4: and they started sending rovers curiosity rover found organic material.

1:03:12 Speaker 3: They still find organic material.

1:03:14 Speaker 4: You go back a month ago, they're making news headlines

1:03:16 Speaker 4: about finding organic material all over the surface of Mars.

1:03:19 Speaker 4: The organic material is in there. And this is the

1:03:21 Speaker 4: difference between soil and regolith. Regolith is dirt without any

1:03:26 Speaker 4: organic material in it. Soil has organic material in it.

1:03:29 Speaker 4: So we don't have regolith on Mars. We have soil

1:03:32 Speaker 4: on Mars. But NASA in nineteen seventy six got positive

1:03:37 Speaker 4: life test results but negative organic so they said, ah,

1:03:40 Speaker 4: we're not sure what to make of this.

1:03:42 Speaker 3: This is ambiguous data.

1:03:45 Speaker 4: It wasn't the home run that they were expecting, so

1:03:48 Speaker 4: they really really weren't sure what to say. So they said, well,

1:03:51 Speaker 4: our life test results are inconclusive. Now In all fairness,

1:03:55 Speaker 4: I understand why they did that, but I got to

1:03:58 Speaker 4: hold their feet to the fire here because when they

1:04:01 Speaker 4: eventually found the organic material later, they should have revisited

1:04:05 Speaker 4: this result.

1:04:08 Speaker 3: Then they did.

1:04:08 Speaker 2: Ah, I see what you're saying.

1:04:10 Speaker 3: And they have not done that.

1:04:13 Speaker 2: Huh.

1:04:16 Speaker 4: So you have the designers of there's one that the

1:04:20 Speaker 4: first test was called the labeled release experiment. All you

1:04:25 Speaker 4: do is you scoop up soil, you feed it some nutrients,

1:04:28 Speaker 4: and you see if any gas comes out.

1:04:29 Speaker 3: Okay, Organisms eat food, they make gas. That's it. Okay.

1:04:35 Speaker 4: And this particular test was run over four thousand times

1:04:39 Speaker 4: here on Earth. It was designed by a sanitation engineer,

1:04:41 Speaker 4: a PhD, who had to test soil and water samples

1:04:45 Speaker 4: to see if there's any pathogens in it okay.

1:04:47 Speaker 3: And he produced this.

1:04:49 Speaker 4: This homemade test essentially that he used for his job

1:04:53 Speaker 4: this before he worked for NASA. And it was run

1:04:56 Speaker 4: over four thousand times and it never produced a false

1:04:58 Speaker 4: positive nor false negative. It was a perfectly designed test.

1:05:01 Speaker 4: So at a cocktail party, Gilavin said, hey, he meets

1:05:05 Speaker 4: the NASA administrator at a cocktail powdery party in DC

1:05:08 Speaker 4: and he says, hey, I heard you going to Mars.

1:05:10 Speaker 4: Are you guys looking for life? And the administrator says, yes,

1:05:15 Speaker 4: we're looking for life. He's like, well, cool, I got

1:05:17 Speaker 4: justice thing for you. I got a test that can

1:05:21 Speaker 4: test soil and see if it has any Mie crobs

1:05:23 Speaker 4: in it and tests down to like, you know, ten

1:05:25 Speaker 4: parts per million or something. Ridiculous. It's so sensitive it

1:05:29 Speaker 4: It was a perfectly designed test. So they sent that

1:05:31 Speaker 4: on both landers, on two different sides of the planet,

1:05:35 Speaker 4: both of which found life multiple times. And that should

1:05:40 Speaker 4: have been it. They should have popped the champagne then

1:05:43 Speaker 4: and there, but they didn't. So now we're here. Here

1:05:46 Speaker 4: we are fifty years later. The man has gone to

1:05:48 Speaker 4: his grave and even his cod designed are the person

1:05:52 Speaker 4: who helped helped him adapt it for Viking that to

1:05:55 Speaker 4: make it smaller or physically get it in the thing.

1:05:58 Speaker 4: They're both dead now, and they both been marginalized by

1:06:01 Speaker 4: their communities. Their communities thought that they were crazy because

1:06:04 Speaker 4: they were advocating that they found life, and they did.

1:06:09 Speaker 4: So that's where the story starts, is microbes, and it's

1:06:16 Speaker 4: a tragic story. But I am trying like hell to

1:06:20 Speaker 4: try to get these people more recognition because I think

1:06:24 Speaker 4: their story deserves to be told, and I consult with

1:06:28 Speaker 4: the modern day scientists, guy named doctor Stephen Benner, who

1:06:33 Speaker 4: was an award winning biochemist in Florida who actually invents

1:06:37 Speaker 4: new forms of DNA. He knows the Viking biology experiments

1:06:41 Speaker 4: inside and out better than anybody on the planet. I've

1:06:43 Speaker 4: spent considerable time with him, and a lot of what

1:06:48 Speaker 4: I'm telling you now is stuff that he is published on,

1:06:51 Speaker 4: and he is trying to get his entire astrobiology community

1:06:56 Speaker 4: to understand that NASA's narrative of no life on Mars

1:06:59 Speaker 4: is completely wrong. So that's that's where we're starting with ty,

1:07:05 Speaker 4: you know, and most people have no idea, and going further,

1:07:13 Speaker 4: since nineteen seventy six, NASA has actually discovered other evidence

1:07:18 Speaker 4: for microbial life on the surface. So I cover this.

1:07:23 Speaker 4: This is what compelled me to make this documentary. It's

1:07:26 Speaker 4: what you know. I learn new stuff like you learn

1:07:28 Speaker 4: their stuff. New stuff comes to me, and I continue

1:07:31 Speaker 4: publishing videos on this. I still cover it on my

1:07:34 Speaker 4: YouTube channel because we're learning new and new things. And

1:07:37 Speaker 4: you know, there's there's people all over the world who're

1:07:40 Speaker 4: studying this stuff that nobody knows about.

1:07:42 Speaker 3: Relatively few people know about.

1:07:46 Speaker 2: Wow, So we're starting with life, microbial life already existing

1:07:50 Speaker 2: on Mars. I mean as a starting point. That is

1:07:55 Speaker 2: that like for me, that's like the gate right. If

1:07:59 Speaker 2: we're finding if there is microL be a life or

1:08:01 Speaker 2: even a potential for it, I mean that that should

1:08:06 Speaker 2: be the ticket. That should be the one way ticket,

1:08:09 Speaker 2: right or not?

1:08:12 Speaker 4: Well, that's even microbes aren't sexy like flying saucers. But

1:08:19 Speaker 4: but it would still be paradigm shifting information. And if

1:08:24 Speaker 4: people only knew that NASA scientist doctor Carol Stoker, who

1:08:30 Speaker 4: in two thousand and two published an abstract saying her

1:08:35 Speaker 4: experiment aboard one of these landers found evidence for chlorophyll,

1:08:42 Speaker 4: then we might be having you know, most more people

1:08:44 Speaker 4: knew that, then we might be having a different story today.

1:08:48 Speaker 2: Didn't we come from? Am I wrong about this? Because

1:08:54 Speaker 2: now I know this is you know, not your field

1:08:59 Speaker 2: per se, But didn't we? Don't they? If you're subscribing

1:09:03 Speaker 2: to the whole idea that we, like, you know, came

1:09:07 Speaker 2: out of the ocean, But you know, weren't we once

1:09:12 Speaker 2: microbial life? That's where it started.

1:09:15 Speaker 4: So you're looking at it from a purely evolutionist perspective.

1:09:19 Speaker 2: Sure, right, So why why is it not sexy? Because

1:09:25 Speaker 2: what that signifies is that that this primordial soup that

1:09:32 Speaker 2: that they tell us about, that if it happened here

1:09:37 Speaker 2: and it resulted in us eventually, if there's microbes out

1:09:42 Speaker 2: there on Mars, that's almost like a confirmation that life, inevitably,

1:09:53 Speaker 2: given time, gets to the point that we got to.

1:09:57 Speaker 2: And if it's happening a couple a planet over, I'm

1:10:05 Speaker 2: exponentially growing my number of places that it's happening through

1:10:08 Speaker 2: the universe. Uh.

1:10:12 Speaker 3: Yes.

1:10:12 Speaker 4: And in my discussions with the many experts I've spoken to,

1:10:17 Speaker 4: I am of the firm I have the firm position

1:10:22 Speaker 4: that what you're alluding to here is not just evolution

1:10:26 Speaker 4: but panspermia.

1:10:29 Speaker 3: Yes, we have proven pan spermia.

1:10:35 Speaker 4: There's a whole most of the scientific community has no

1:10:39 Speaker 4: knowledge of the things that I cover. I have spoken

1:10:44 Speaker 4: with experts who shall whose credentials shall not be questioned.

1:10:49 Speaker 4: We have beyond a reasonable doubt proven panspermia. So I

1:10:56 Speaker 4: agree that mycrobial life should be sex scene.

1:11:00 Speaker 3: And maybe I'm just characterizing it wrong.

1:11:02 Speaker 4: I'm just saying relative, you know, it doesn't Well, let's

1:11:06 Speaker 4: just put it this way, Todd, do you ever see

1:11:08 Speaker 4: these headlines where it says scientists are looking into Scientists

1:11:12 Speaker 4: use the James Web Space telescope to look at the

1:11:15 Speaker 4: atmospheres of these planets millions of miles away orbiting other stars,

1:11:20 Speaker 4: and they'll say scientists have found biosignatures in the atmospheres

1:11:25 Speaker 4: of Exo.

1:11:26 Speaker 3: Stuff like that. Okay, do you know what they're looking

1:11:30 Speaker 3: for specifically? That makes them think that?

1:11:34 Speaker 2: Isn't it? The Uh? Shoot?

1:11:36 Speaker 5: True true?

1:11:39 Speaker 2: Uh put me on the spot here, and that's going

1:11:42 Speaker 2: to make me fucked up. But I just tell me

1:11:45 Speaker 2: because I know what it is.

1:11:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a it's a tongue, it's a mouthful. It's

1:11:50 Speaker 4: something called dimethyl sulfide.

1:11:52 Speaker 2: Divet thank you sorry, and that is only produced by life. Correct, Yes, Okay.

1:11:59 Speaker 4: So guess where they also found thy methyl sulfide. Mars

1:12:05 Speaker 4: Curiosity rover found it. When it found the organic material,

1:12:08 Speaker 4: it also found thy methyl sulfide. Jesus, So I think

1:12:16 Speaker 4: this is a big deal. Sounds like you think it's

1:12:18 Speaker 4: a big deal. This is why I I cover this

1:12:21 Speaker 4: because most of the world doesn't know this. NASA collects

1:12:24 Speaker 4: the information, they publish it, they just don't.

1:12:27 Speaker 3: Report on it. So at least me an opportunity to do.

1:12:31 Speaker 2: So why Okay, Okay, my mind is already fried.

1:12:41 Speaker 3: We haven't even got the heat, I.

1:12:44 Speaker 2: Know, and I'm gearing myself up. Well okay, so what

1:12:56 Speaker 2: what huh? What comes next?

1:12:59 Speaker 4: What?

1:12:59 Speaker 2: What some? What is the what? What's the next step?

1:13:03 Speaker 2: Now we've gone through that microbes exist, that there's water there.

1:13:07 Speaker 2: We see on Earth, that life life, it doesn't just

1:13:12 Speaker 2: find a way. But in places that like it's it's

1:13:17 Speaker 2: involcanic area, it's in It not only thrives, I mean

1:13:26 Speaker 2: it not, it's not only there, but it thrives in

1:13:28 Speaker 2: the places we would least expect life to thrive. So

1:13:33 Speaker 2: life finds a way, I mean it always does. So

1:13:37 Speaker 2: there's these microbes, there's evidence of of of even something

1:13:42 Speaker 2: else on Mars. There's Zon one twenty nine, which is

1:13:46 Speaker 2: indicative of you know, either nuclear war, you know whatever?

1:13:53 Speaker 2: What what what? What's your next big thing? What's the

1:13:56 Speaker 2: next thing that you want to talk about?

1:13:59 Speaker 4: Well, but before we get that, one has to ask

1:14:07 Speaker 4: why hasn't NASA gone back and tested again for microbial

1:14:13 Speaker 4: life like they did nineteen seventy six and nineteen seventy six.

1:14:16 Speaker 4: Ninety seventy six was the only time NASA ever sent

1:14:20 Speaker 4: any biology experiments to Mars. We know that they send

1:14:25 Speaker 4: rovers there and they keep telling us they're looking for life,

1:14:28 Speaker 4: but none of these rovers, nothing since nineteen seventy six,

1:14:32 Speaker 4: has had a biology test on it. We think that

1:14:36 Speaker 4: they just want to avoid another public relation's mishap. They

1:14:41 Speaker 4: just don't They've already set the narrative now here we

1:14:44 Speaker 4: are decades later. They don't want to own up to

1:14:46 Speaker 4: their mistake. This would be so simple to do, and

1:14:50 Speaker 4: there are tests, and I'm in touch with the Steven

1:14:54 Speaker 4: Benner and his team down in Florida who are actually

1:14:56 Speaker 4: designing a life detection that can detect the difference between

1:15:03 Speaker 4: known and unknown forms of DNA and would put put

1:15:06 Speaker 4: this thing to bed overnight. We have the technology, Why

1:15:11 Speaker 4: doesn't NASA want to send it there? Why doesn't SpaceX

1:15:14 Speaker 4: want to send it there? Logic would dictate you might

1:15:16 Speaker 4: want to figure out if there's any pathogenic material on

1:15:18 Speaker 4: Mars before we starts any astronauts there.

1:15:20 Speaker 2: Well, someone said it in the chat that those microbes

1:15:23 Speaker 2: might even kill us when we get there.

1:15:26 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, right, But they they don't want to.

1:15:29 Speaker 4: They don't want to do this stuff anyway. So you know,

1:15:32 Speaker 4: we could talk about that all night long. But to

1:15:35 Speaker 4: advance the conversation here, where do we go from microbes? Well,

1:15:40 Speaker 4: if if if Mars was like Earth, it was a

1:15:43 Speaker 4: blue planet, it had microbes, did any did any multicellular

1:15:48 Speaker 4: life arise from that?

1:15:51 Speaker 3: And the answer is the answer is arguably yes and not.

1:16:01 Speaker 3: I'll just you know, not only.

1:16:04 Speaker 4: Do we have photographic evidence for fossils, Tye, we have

1:16:09 Speaker 4: a handful of fossils, we actually have evidence for what

1:16:15 Speaker 4: appeared to be machine like artifacts, debris, things that just

1:16:21 Speaker 4: don't look like rocks photographed by the rovers, and large

1:16:28 Speaker 4: megalithic structures as photographed by the orbiters. Most people have

1:16:34 Speaker 4: not seen any of this stuff. They know the face

1:16:37 Speaker 4: on Mars and that's it. But Tie, we've got a

1:16:41 Speaker 4: whole lot more stuff. Sorry, Mike was off.

1:16:44 Speaker 2: The face on Mars is arguably the most well known.

1:16:48 Speaker 2: Is that in the Sidonia region.

1:16:50 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, so.

1:16:54 Speaker 2: I've heard a lot about other structures on Mars. Remote

1:16:58 Speaker 2: viewers the best of the best. When it comes to

1:17:02 Speaker 2: remote viewers, we're asked to look at Mars. Yes, in

1:17:07 Speaker 2: the past. I mean, whether you believe in remote viewing

1:17:14 Speaker 2: or not some of the things that they've talked about.

1:17:18 Speaker 2: I mean, so introduced. Pretend I'm the layman, talk to

1:17:24 Speaker 2: me about So what do you mean structures on Mars?

1:17:28 Speaker 2: Are we talking monoliths? Are we talking ruins of temples?

1:17:36 Speaker 2: Are we talking paridolia potentially? Where you know? I mean,

1:17:43 Speaker 2: we know that there's no right angles that are naturally

1:17:46 Speaker 2: forming typically in the universe. It's not to say it

1:17:50 Speaker 2: can't happen. It's just ninety nine point nine nine nine

1:17:53 Speaker 2: percent of the time doesn't happen. It's very very it doesn't.

1:18:00 Speaker 2: It just doesn't really happen. Not it doesn't happen naturally.

1:18:04 Speaker 2: But you know, if the Mars rover runs something over

1:18:08 Speaker 2: and then it looks like a right angle, I mean,

1:18:12 Speaker 2: you know we're up there now, right, we're doing things.

1:18:15 Speaker 2: So I think we do need to be careful when

1:18:18 Speaker 2: you know, we do see something, we definitely need to

1:18:22 Speaker 2: analyze it. But okay, what do you mention? So what

1:18:26 Speaker 2: is there architecture to this stuff? Is what is going on?

1:18:33 Speaker 4: Ty? What everyone needs to understand is that there are

1:18:37 Speaker 4: these independent researchers that NASA takes all these photographs and

1:18:42 Speaker 4: then they just publish them online with no commentary, no fanfare,

1:18:46 Speaker 4: no press release whatsoever. The independent guys out there who

1:18:51 Speaker 4: spend their free time looking at this stuff. They have

1:18:53 Speaker 4: day jobs, but they spend free time looking at this stuff.

1:18:56 Speaker 4: They sift through hundreds, if not thousands, of these images,

1:18:59 Speaker 4: and they'll stuff that just doesn't look natural. They'll publish

1:19:03 Speaker 4: it to the Internet and open it up for discussion.

1:19:07 Speaker 4: And there are a few of them that I'm in

1:19:09 Speaker 4: touch with who I'd like to highlight today. One of

1:19:11 Speaker 4: them is his name is Jean Ward. He's in South Africa.

1:19:15 Speaker 4: Another guy, Gary Ligier, he's in Colorado. There's someone who

1:19:20 Speaker 4: I think was watching might be tuned in here. Carrie Stebertson.

1:19:23 Speaker 4: She just got in the game. She's from Norway.

1:19:26 Speaker 3: These are the researchers.

1:19:27 Speaker 4: Out there, just just a few of them. There's more, okay.

1:19:31 Speaker 4: Joe White is another one who they I don't agree

1:19:34 Speaker 4: with everything that they find, but these are my These

1:19:38 Speaker 4: are my These are my heroes here, because these are

1:19:42 Speaker 4: the guys who were and ladies who are actually finding

1:19:45 Speaker 4: this stuff.

1:19:45 Speaker 3: And I'm going to show you here just a second,

1:19:47 Speaker 3: all right. They're finding all sorts of things, and it

1:19:52 Speaker 3: would there's too much to show you all of it.

1:19:55 Speaker 4: So I just kind of want to show you the

1:19:57 Speaker 4: best of the best half dozen or so examples, and

1:20:01 Speaker 4: what I think most people need to see first are

1:20:07 Speaker 4: the very large structures that, in my opinion, do not

1:20:15 Speaker 4: appear to be natural.

1:20:17 Speaker 3: And Carl Sagan.

1:20:20 Speaker 4: Has this very famous quote, extraordinary claims.

1:20:27 Speaker 3: Require extraordinary evidence?

1:20:29 Speaker 2: Does it though? Do they? Do they though? Or does

1:20:33 Speaker 2: it just require evidence? Because evidence is evidence, plain and simple.

1:20:39 Speaker 4: He's got the quote everyone loves, I don't post posting

1:20:43 Speaker 4: that every time we you know, there's all this that's

1:20:45 Speaker 4: what skeptics want to go to first, to which I

1:20:48 Speaker 4: would respond with another quote by Carl Sagan which he

1:20:54 Speaker 4: made in his Cosmos TV series in his Cosmos book,

1:20:58 Speaker 4: which is intelligent life first reveals itself through the geometric

1:21:02 Speaker 4: regularity of its constructions.

1:21:04 Speaker 3: What is he talking about?

1:21:05 Speaker 4: He's saying, if you're an alien in a spaceship looking

1:21:09 Speaker 4: down on a planet like Earth, how would you first

1:21:11 Speaker 4: know that there's intelligent life there? You'd start seeing things

1:21:16 Speaker 4: like city grids, large pyramidal structures, straight lines, things like this,

1:21:22 Speaker 4: things that just don't appear to be naturally created. And

1:21:30 Speaker 4: one can reason that if we start to see.

1:21:35 Speaker 3: Pyramid shapes.

1:21:38 Speaker 4: We can discern the difference between a pyramid in a volcano,

1:21:42 Speaker 4: can't we tie? We know the difference, sure can.

1:21:46 Speaker 3: You're flashing something up here.

1:21:48 Speaker 4: This is an interesting structure here which is actually twelve

1:21:53 Speaker 4: miles away from the face, which is one of the

1:21:56 Speaker 4: things that they originally photographed in nineteen seventy six called

1:21:59 Speaker 4: the DNM pyramid, named after its discoverers Deep Petro and Molinar.

1:22:03 Speaker 2: One of the things I wanted to ask you about

1:22:05 Speaker 2: this and why I flashed it is because obviously, top

1:22:09 Speaker 2: down it just looks like a hill, right, but this

1:22:15 Speaker 2: is actually like if you were on the surface, this

1:22:19 Speaker 2: is fucking crazy big.

1:22:23 Speaker 3: Yes, it's two and a half miles long.

1:22:27 Speaker 2: Like I think that's where people get a lot of

1:22:30 Speaker 2: misconceptions about Mars, because like we're looking top down and

1:22:34 Speaker 2: you don't get that always that depth. But yeah, present

1:22:40 Speaker 2: some of the stuff that you want to show us.

1:22:42 Speaker 4: Of course, that one's a complicated one because that's actually

1:22:45 Speaker 4: a five sided structure and it requires a little bit

1:22:49 Speaker 4: more explanation than I want to get into tonight.

1:22:51 Speaker 3: I want to stick with simpler stuff.

1:22:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, fair, because I just think it might be a

1:22:56 Speaker 4: little bit easier to grasp for people who have never

1:22:58 Speaker 4: seen any of this stuff.

1:22:59 Speaker 3: But first, ty, can.

1:23:02 Speaker 4: You tell the difference between if you're looking top down

1:23:04 Speaker 4: satellite imagery?

1:23:05 Speaker 3: Okay?

1:23:06 Speaker 4: Do you think you're the type of person you can

1:23:07 Speaker 4: tell the difference between a pyramid and a volcano? Yes,

1:23:11 Speaker 4: I appear a pyramid in a mountain, yes, a pyramid

1:23:15 Speaker 4: in a hill. Yes, Okay, I think most people have

1:23:21 Speaker 4: enough common sense to be able to tell the difference. Now,

1:23:23 Speaker 4: what how would you define what a pyramid is? If

1:23:26 Speaker 4: you were explaining what a pyramid is? What is a pyramid?

1:23:31 Speaker 2: Like? Like the definition of what? Yeah? Like?

1:23:35 Speaker 3: How would you describe its shape?

1:23:38 Speaker 2: A pyramid is a I mean it's a it's a

1:23:43 Speaker 2: three dimensional essentially, it's a geometrical triangle that well, now

1:23:52 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna sound like an idiot.

1:23:54 Speaker 3: But something with four sides, four sides?

1:23:58 Speaker 2: Yeah? What four sides?

1:24:01 Speaker 3: Were sides?

1:24:02 Speaker 2: Four equal sides that rise up and form a point

1:24:07 Speaker 2: at the top the the the base is always wider

1:24:13 Speaker 2: than the than than the point, of course, uh sure? Yes?

1:24:17 Speaker 2: For uh for equid equal yeah, yeah, four equal size

1:24:25 Speaker 2: triangles that come to a point. Yes. Okay, So sorry,

1:24:30 Speaker 2: I sounded like an idiot. I tried to sound smart,

1:24:32 Speaker 2: but then I sounded dumb.

1:24:33 Speaker 3: You you know what it is. You know it when

1:24:35 Speaker 3: you see it, right.

1:24:37 Speaker 2: Absolutely now.

1:24:38 Speaker 4: I when when we in the Mars disclosure community post

1:24:42 Speaker 4: images of these structures online, we'll oftentimes get people saying, oh, no,

1:24:47 Speaker 4: we have natural looking pyramidal shapes here on Earth, and

1:24:51 Speaker 4: they'll post an example of a photograph taken at ground

1:24:55 Speaker 4: level looking at the side of a mountain. Okay, and

1:24:58 Speaker 4: sometimes they just look like a perfect triangle. But when

1:25:01 Speaker 4: you take a look at the orbital photograph of that

1:25:04 Speaker 4: same structure, it's asymmetrical. It doesn't there's no equal sides,

1:25:10 Speaker 4: there's none of that. Okay, they just got lucky on

1:25:13 Speaker 4: one ground level shot. It kind of looks like a triangle.

1:25:15 Speaker 3: Okay.

1:25:16 Speaker 4: So when we're discerning the difference here, I we have

1:25:21 Speaker 4: the great fortune of having an abundance of orbital satellite

1:25:25 Speaker 4: photography which demonstrates this symmetry and geometric regularity that Carl

1:25:31 Speaker 4: Sagan is talking about. And I'm going to show you

1:25:34 Speaker 4: stuff that, in my opinion, is undeniable. And I don't

1:25:38 Speaker 4: think most people have ever seen this stuff, which is

1:25:41 Speaker 4: why I get so excited. My mind is blown as

1:25:43 Speaker 4: to why we're not all talking about this more. But anyway,

1:25:46 Speaker 4: so instead of talking more about it, let me just

1:25:48 Speaker 4: show you. May I present my screen?

1:25:50 Speaker 2: Please do, my friend?

1:25:52 Speaker 3: Okay, so let's see is this here? Share screen?

1:25:55 Speaker 2: Here?

1:25:56 Speaker 3: Let's do this here screen? Okay, sees it's green? Two?

1:26:02 Speaker 4: Yes, here we go. Okay, tie, tell me what you

1:26:09 Speaker 4: see here? These are pyramids?

1:26:13 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.

1:26:19 Speaker 4: Do they look like pyramids though? Be honest, No, that's right,

1:26:27 Speaker 4: But guess what they are in Egypt?

1:26:35 Speaker 2: What the fuck?

1:26:39 Speaker 4: These are certified pyramids in Egypt. Okay, I'm showing you

1:26:49 Speaker 4: this first before we show you the other stuff because

1:26:52 Speaker 4: I want to make a point.

1:26:56 Speaker 2: What the fuck?

1:26:57 Speaker 4: These things are mostly reduced to rub You wouldn't know

1:27:02 Speaker 4: these things are a pyramid unless we got boots on

1:27:04 Speaker 4: the ground and knew the history, right because none of

1:27:07 Speaker 4: these appear to be pyramidal in shape, not top down. No, okay,

1:27:12 Speaker 4: yet we still accept these as pyramids?

1:27:15 Speaker 2: Okay, right? Right, I know all of them.

1:27:19 Speaker 4: This is what they look like from the top down. Wow,

1:27:24 Speaker 4: all right, they don't look like much.

1:27:28 Speaker 2: The only one that really does is the Hawara. Yeah,

1:27:31 Speaker 2: and that's like, that's really not even like. I wouldn't

1:27:36 Speaker 2: really like that would stand out to me either, though.

1:27:39 Speaker 3: It's not impressive, is it? No?

1:27:41 Speaker 2: Not even close? No, I feel like so I feel

1:27:46 Speaker 2: so dumb right now.

1:27:48 Speaker 3: It's okay, It's okay.

1:27:50 Speaker 4: This is my trick question up front sort of thing,

1:27:53 Speaker 4: because I want to get people acclimated.

1:27:55 Speaker 2: That's an off factor clip that.

1:27:58 Speaker 4: I gotta get people acclimated to what they're about to see,

1:28:01 Speaker 4: because as it relates to Mars, this concept of there

1:28:05 Speaker 4: being pyramids on Mars is so unsettling for people that

1:28:09 Speaker 4: they just want to reject it out right, Well, NASA

1:28:11 Speaker 4: hasn't said there's pyramids on Mars. I'm not going to

1:28:14 Speaker 4: believe you, person who I've never heard of, even despite

1:28:17 Speaker 4: it looking exactly like what a pyramid should look like.

1:28:21 Speaker 4: I'm going to do the mental gymnastics in my head

1:28:24 Speaker 4: to make myself believe that what I'm seeing isn't true. Right, Okay, right,

1:28:30 Speaker 4: we can Okay, So here's an here's have you seen

1:28:35 Speaker 4: this before?

1:28:35 Speaker 3: This is on Earth? Yes? This is.

1:28:41 Speaker 2: Wait a second, where are we here? One? Two, three, four?

1:28:46 Speaker 2: Is this is this a step pyramid?

1:28:49 Speaker 3: This is on the other side of the world in Mexico.

1:28:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is part of the Okay, this is South America.

1:28:56 Speaker 4: The area known as Taotiacon. Yes, okay, Oh do we

1:29:02 Speaker 4: lose it?

1:29:04 Speaker 2: No, it's there. You there, ty, Yeah, I'm I'm here.

1:29:15 Speaker 2: I can still see it. Can you guys hear me? Chat?

1:29:24 Speaker 2: Can we uh? Oh?

1:29:25 Speaker 3: Here we go? Here we go? Can you see me?

1:29:28 Speaker 2: Yeah? Who? Just who glitched?

1:29:32 Speaker 3: I don't know.

1:29:34 Speaker 4: Sorry, I don't know who. I don't know what happened.

1:29:37 Speaker 4: Nothing happened here. It's just kind of frozen.

1:29:39 Speaker 2: Chat. Let me know. Let me know. Was it him

1:29:41 Speaker 2: or me? Because I just want to know for my sake?

1:29:46 Speaker 3: Spooky stuff? Having it again?

1:29:47 Speaker 5: Yeah?

1:29:49 Speaker 2: Was it? I know, guys, we have I know someone glitched,

1:29:52 Speaker 2: but which one was it? Was it him or me?

1:29:57 Speaker 2: But god? Continue? Oh it's him?

1:29:59 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, sorry about that. I don't know what's happening.

1:30:02 Speaker 2: Well, I wasn't trying to put you on the spot

1:30:03 Speaker 2: or anything.

1:30:04 Speaker 3: Yeah that's okay, Yeah, no problem.

1:30:06 Speaker 4: So Ty, This this is the pyramid of the Moon.

1:30:11 Speaker 4: In the ancient area of Mexico known as Taoti Wakon.

1:30:14 Speaker 4: There's pyramid of the moon, a pyramid of the sun.

1:30:16 Speaker 4: This is the Taeoti Wacon site. Now, what do we

1:30:18 Speaker 4: see here? We see a obviously four sided pyramid structure.

1:30:23 Speaker 4: But what's interesting is that we also have what's connected

1:30:26 Speaker 4: to it. Here is this this front part, I don't

1:30:29 Speaker 4: know what you want to call it, but this front

1:30:31 Speaker 4: stepped part. Right, So it's this giant pyramid with this

1:30:34 Speaker 4: front stepped part. Now, if you were to imagine what

1:30:38 Speaker 4: this would look like with let's say five hundred million

1:30:42 Speaker 4: years of dust blown on top of it, you might

1:30:47 Speaker 4: imagine that the edges won't be so sharp, correct, right,

1:30:53 Speaker 4: It might be a little rounded off. It's not going

1:30:55 Speaker 4: to be in pristine condition. We just saw the Egyptian pyramids,

1:30:58 Speaker 4: which are only thousands of years old, which or nowhere

1:31:00 Speaker 4: near good shape. Okay, so we don't have any vegetation

1:31:05 Speaker 4: problems on Mars that would cover this up and make

1:31:08 Speaker 4: it look like a hill, you know, as unexcavated pyramids

1:31:12 Speaker 4: tend to look like. But if we just imagine dust accumulation,

1:31:15 Speaker 4: there's still a little bit of wind that blows around

1:31:17 Speaker 4: dust and grains of sand everywhere on Mars. So if

1:31:20 Speaker 4: you just imagine what that might look like, well, is

1:31:24 Speaker 4: it inconceivable that.

1:31:26 Speaker 5: This, holy shit, holy shit.

1:31:37 Speaker 4: Would be a pyramid. Holy shit, Now how big do

1:31:46 Speaker 4: you think that is?

1:31:50 Speaker 2: Well, that's my problem with these top down shots. I

1:31:54 Speaker 2: really have no reference frame, so just I mean, it

1:31:59 Speaker 2: looks small. But but do you know what I mean

1:32:03 Speaker 2: though it.

1:32:03 Speaker 3: Looks I know, I know it's I know.

1:32:07 Speaker 2: That the scale is so much bigger than what we like.

1:32:12 Speaker 2: Our eyes play tricks. So tell how big is this

1:32:16 Speaker 2: thing on the left?

1:32:17 Speaker 3: Okay, first of all, what do we see here?

1:32:19 Speaker 4: We see we see a square shape, all sides are equal.

1:32:24 Speaker 4: We see four triangular faces, all rising to an apex.

1:32:28 Speaker 2: All rising to an apex. And we even have a

1:32:30 Speaker 2: little bulge in the front right.

1:32:37 Speaker 3: Exactly. Okay.

1:32:39 Speaker 4: This was discovered by South African Jean Ward. Okay, and

1:32:43 Speaker 4: this this comparison. I have another buddy, George Hasshu, who

1:32:46 Speaker 4: linked these two. So shout out to those guys. This

1:32:53 Speaker 4: is two and a half miles wide.

1:32:59 Speaker 2: You guys fucking kidding me? Are you serious?

1:33:05 Speaker 4: It's clearly not a volcano. Volcanoes don't have four equal, flat,

1:33:12 Speaker 4: triangular sides. It's not connected to any other mountain range.

1:33:17 Speaker 4: It's stand alone. And that's the other thing. These things

1:33:19 Speaker 4: are stand alone. They're not connected. It's it's sometimes you'll

1:33:22 Speaker 4: have a mountain peak that peaks and it looks like

1:33:26 Speaker 4: a pyramid at the very peak. But then if you

1:33:30 Speaker 4: look at the total landscape, it's people like to show

1:33:33 Speaker 4: this thing in Antarctica all the time and like, that's

1:33:35 Speaker 4: clearly a mountain peak from a round mountain range. This

1:33:39 Speaker 4: is not volcanoes on on Mars. Look a lot like

1:33:44 Speaker 4: volcanoes on Earth. They're round with a caldera at the center.

1:33:48 Speaker 2: Yeah right, very clear, and and and and volcano. Yeah

1:33:53 Speaker 2: I agree.

1:33:54 Speaker 3: Okay, So.

1:33:59 Speaker 4: This is a NASA photograph and we've published on this,

1:34:02 Speaker 4: we cite the sources. You can go and look at

1:34:04 Speaker 4: this for yourself. Okay, this this is the incredible work

1:34:07 Speaker 4: of this community. They're finding stuff like this, NASA publishes it,

1:34:11 Speaker 4: they don't talk about it.

1:34:12 Speaker 3: Leave it to the input.

1:34:13 Speaker 4: Okay, So next, unless you want to have any other

1:34:18 Speaker 4: questions about.

1:34:19 Speaker 2: This time, no, no, no, please, okay, I'm.

1:34:21 Speaker 3: Just showing you the best at the best here.

1:34:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, here's an example of another rover I'm sorry, another

1:34:28 Speaker 4: orbiter photograph.

1:34:29 Speaker 3: Okay.

1:34:29 Speaker 4: The satellite is up and outer space and it's looking

1:34:31 Speaker 4: straight down. Now you might notice.

1:34:34 Speaker 2: Something in directly in the center.

1:34:38 Speaker 3: It's not too hard to see, is it?

1:34:40 Speaker 2: My eye goes directly to it because it stands out

1:34:44 Speaker 2: so fucking much, because it's the only fucking thing in

1:34:49 Speaker 2: the picture that has a shape exactly like a shape,

1:34:57 Speaker 2: meaning a shape that is recognized.

1:35:00 Speaker 3: It's a geometric shape.

1:35:02 Speaker 2: And you can see the dust drift, yeah, you know

1:35:07 Speaker 2: what I mean, you can see those things that look

1:35:09 Speaker 2: like ripples. Randall Carson talks about this. You know, we

1:35:14 Speaker 2: get that one with dust and sandstorms, but we also

1:35:18 Speaker 2: get it with high velocity water.

1:35:20 Speaker 4: Right like sand dunes or ripples right all over the place.

1:35:25 Speaker 4: These are all a morphous.

1:35:27 Speaker 2: And then there's just a there's just a perfect what

1:35:33 Speaker 2: is that?

1:35:34 Speaker 3: So?

1:35:34 Speaker 4: How many sides does it look like it has?

1:35:37 Speaker 2: Genuinely looks like it only has three sides, which is

1:35:40 Speaker 2: throwing me off.

1:35:41 Speaker 3: Which that's right.

1:35:42 Speaker 4: So not all pyramids on Mars have four sides.

1:35:48 Speaker 3: And if we take a closer look at this tie.

1:35:51 Speaker 2: God damn it, man, what what the.

1:35:58 Speaker 3: Now?

1:35:58 Speaker 4: Skeptics we'll push back on this, especially NASA geologists, and

1:36:02 Speaker 4: they'll say, well, it's not in pristine shape like our

1:36:07 Speaker 4: pyramids are here on.

1:36:08 Speaker 3: Earth, so therefore it's therefore it's natural.

1:36:13 Speaker 4: Now, I wonder what wind or water or geological process

1:36:17 Speaker 4: would make a three equal sided tetrahedron in the middle

1:36:22 Speaker 4: of nowhere, connected to nothing else. You can see the

1:36:27 Speaker 4: sand here, look at the sand dunes. The wind is

1:36:29 Speaker 4: blowing a certain way. I don't see how it makes

1:36:32 Speaker 4: this out of nothing, out of out of you know

1:36:35 Speaker 4: what I mean.

1:36:36 Speaker 2: Dude, what the fuck I my mind is I I've

1:36:45 Speaker 2: seen some of this stuff before, but I can't wrap

1:36:51 Speaker 2: my head around this.

1:36:53 Speaker 4: This was actually discovered a quarter century ago, and uh,

1:37:00 Speaker 4: you know, just most people haven't seen it because there

1:37:02 Speaker 4: hasn't been enough attention on Mars, which is you know,

1:37:05 Speaker 4: I'm trying to change that, and you know, thanks to

1:37:07 Speaker 4: you giving me this time to demonstrate this, because these

1:37:11 Speaker 4: guys need more.

1:37:13 Speaker 2: We need there's no doctoring in these at all.

1:37:18 Speaker 3: Right.

1:37:18 Speaker 2: Where are we obtaining these photos?

1:37:21 Speaker 4: I'm downloading them directly from NASA's websites. They have a

1:37:24 Speaker 4: multiple different websites depending on what instrument they're using. I

1:37:28 Speaker 4: source everything. Everybody can go look at this for themselves.

1:37:32 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, so I could independently pull this

1:37:34 Speaker 2: image and it was exactly like this.

1:37:37 Speaker 4: And if yes, if you can't find a link on

1:37:40 Speaker 4: my web page or YouTube or something. You can just

1:37:42 Speaker 4: contact me on Twitter, email me, and I'll be happy

1:37:44 Speaker 4: to provide that to you. I do my best every

1:37:46 Speaker 4: time I publish something up. We were totally transparent about this.

1:37:50 Speaker 4: We're publishing the source url and go and look at

1:37:52 Speaker 4: this stuff up for yourself. So all right, interesting, all right,

1:37:58 Speaker 4: next one ready. Oh, here's just a different shot of

1:38:02 Speaker 4: it and the same thing, same thing, just a different

1:38:06 Speaker 4: angle of it.

1:38:07 Speaker 2: Okay, are we still top down for the most part.

1:38:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's not a it's not precisely above. You

1:38:15 Speaker 4: can see it's at a slight angle here, and it

1:38:18 Speaker 4: obviously is an out in pristine condition. But NASA tells

1:38:21 Speaker 4: us tie that Mars lost its water three and a

1:38:25 Speaker 4: half billion years ago, which I assume means whoever was

1:38:30 Speaker 4: living there.

1:38:32 Speaker 2: Didn't live much longer than that, much.

1:38:35 Speaker 3: Longer than that.

1:38:36 Speaker 4: So if I'm taking their timeline, these things are over

1:38:40 Speaker 4: three billion years old now, And again I.

1:38:44 Speaker 2: See where you're going with this. This is three billion

1:38:48 Speaker 2: years of like dust storms and you know, outside impacts

1:38:57 Speaker 2: and you know, kicking shit up, and I mean, right,

1:39:00 Speaker 2: this is kind of what you'd expect, like the geeze

1:39:04 Speaker 2: a pyramid to look like if we disappeared tomorrow and

1:39:07 Speaker 2: the next people came along three billion years after.

1:39:11 Speaker 3: Or even let's just say conservatively fifty million years.

1:39:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right, right, even fifty million years. Like, look

1:39:18 Speaker 2: at something like ummm, look at something like go Beckley

1:39:24 Speaker 2: Tepe or any of the Tepeys.

1:39:27 Speaker 3: Right, you're only talking about ten fifteen thousand.

1:39:31 Speaker 2: Years completely buried. Guys, Chickens start going missing, disappearing through

1:39:37 Speaker 2: a hole in his wall, and then pop they find

1:39:42 Speaker 2: an underground.

1:39:43 Speaker 3: City, right exactly.

1:39:45 Speaker 2: Like, guys, is it really that hard to wrap your

1:39:48 Speaker 2: fucking heads around?

1:39:49 Speaker 4: So we have the great fortune tie of Mars. Essentially,

1:39:53 Speaker 4: the surface of Mars is essentially preserved because there's very

1:39:57 Speaker 4: little weathering and erosional force that can happen, because the

1:40:01 Speaker 4: atmosphere is so thin that all I can really do

1:40:04 Speaker 4: is have dust devils and blow around sand and find particles.

1:40:09 Speaker 4: But still there's going to be some amount of accumulation

1:40:12 Speaker 4: that happens on these structures and some amount of erosion,

1:40:16 Speaker 4: especially over eons of time. So I'm not bothered that

1:40:21 Speaker 4: these are not in pristine condition. Obviously, there's enough symmetry

1:40:26 Speaker 4: and geometric regularity here that you can rewind the clock

1:40:29 Speaker 4: in your mind, use your imagination to figure out what

1:40:31 Speaker 4: this might have looked like before, and understand that, at

1:40:35 Speaker 4: least here on Earth, no natural process creates such structures.

1:40:43 Speaker 3: Right, got a few more ready for the next one?

1:40:50 Speaker 2: Sure?

1:40:51 Speaker 4: Okay again, here's an orbiter photograph. All right, Now, this

1:40:58 Speaker 4: this is actually a compositive multiple photographs. You can kind

1:41:00 Speaker 4: of see where the outlines of them are stitch together

1:41:03 Speaker 4: based on multiple This is covering a very wide area.

1:41:06 Speaker 4: And I think you know something like this we capture,

1:41:09 Speaker 4: you know, Google Earth. The Google Earth pro program actually

1:41:12 Speaker 4: has a Mars setting. You can actually analyze Mars the

1:41:15 Speaker 4: same way you would with Earth, so to get.

1:41:17 Speaker 2: These top pole Mars, right.

1:41:20 Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is this is probably taken from that program,

1:41:23 Speaker 4: which is why you see these stitch together things. But

1:41:25 Speaker 4: this is all NASA is doing. Okay, I didn't do this.

1:41:27 Speaker 4: NASA put this together. But again it should be obvious

1:41:34 Speaker 4: just at a glance, like what do we see here?

1:41:39 Speaker 3: Ty, what do we see? We see this landscape, it's

1:41:47 Speaker 3: got metior impacts all over the place.

1:41:49 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so I was gonna say, but they also

1:41:53 Speaker 2: oddly don't seem to be deeper or shallower than any

1:41:59 Speaker 2: of the ones around it.

1:42:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean maybe I don't really go into the

1:42:05 Speaker 4: depth of these these meteors, but you can obviously see

1:42:08 Speaker 4: the ejecta right, Yes, there's a there's an impact and

1:42:12 Speaker 4: the ejective goes out.

1:42:13 Speaker 3: You can see this everything that's been splashed out of it.

1:42:16 Speaker 2: Right, So the like these kind of seem like pock

1:42:19 Speaker 2: marks where they're you know what I mean, they're hitting

1:42:22 Speaker 2: and there's uh yeah, exactly. So.

1:42:27 Speaker 4: Uh if a meteor comes down tie and makes an

1:42:32 Speaker 4: impact crater two and a half miles wide, uhh, that's

1:42:36 Speaker 4: a big explosion. You would think that anything directly adjacent

1:42:42 Speaker 4: to that impact.

1:42:45 Speaker 2: Would be destroyed, wiped out.

1:42:49 Speaker 4: So can you see anything next to a crater that, yes,

1:42:53 Speaker 4: does look like it should be there? Yes, okay, we're

1:42:57 Speaker 4: going to zoom in. It's right there in the center.

1:42:59 Speaker 4: Yes to this thing?

1:43:01 Speaker 2: What the fuck? Come onidding me?

1:43:09 Speaker 5: This look?

1:43:10 Speaker 2: Come on?

1:43:11 Speaker 4: Come on, I know, man, I know this has some

1:43:17 Speaker 4: interesting history to it. This is known as simply crater pyramid.

1:43:22 Speaker 4: This is a high contrast visual. I have a I

1:43:26 Speaker 4: have a better visual coming for you in just a moment.

1:43:29 Speaker 4: But this, this crater is two and a half miles wide,

1:43:35 Speaker 4: and this structure is one point seven miles wide.

1:43:39 Speaker 3: Now already you can.

1:43:40 Speaker 4: Kind of see we've got triangular sides here, equal flat sides.

1:43:47 Speaker 3: It is a bit round here.

1:43:49 Speaker 4: But again, what does a million or five hundred million

1:43:52 Speaker 4: years worth of sediment deposits look like on a perfectly

1:43:56 Speaker 4: you know, organized structure. The logic being how this thing

1:44:00 Speaker 4: existed before this impact, it would have been annihilated.

1:44:04 Speaker 2: Annihilated it.

1:44:07 Speaker 4: It doesn't have a colder at the top, It is

1:44:09 Speaker 4: not conical, it has sides to it.

1:44:11 Speaker 3: It is not a volcano.

1:44:14 Speaker 2: And hold on, mm hmmm, what are you saying came first?

1:44:24 Speaker 4: Well, logic would dictate that the crater came first, and

1:44:31 Speaker 4: either mother and either Mother Nature decided it wanted to

1:44:35 Speaker 4: spring up a symmetrical, four sided pyramid structure right on

1:44:40 Speaker 4: the lip of it, or somebody had the idea that

1:44:44 Speaker 4: they wanted to build something on the lip of it and.

1:44:48 Speaker 2: Make it a sacred place sort of some sort that

1:44:52 Speaker 2: that how could you not and you and building that

1:44:56 Speaker 2: like that, you would have to be able to appreciate

1:45:00 Speaker 2: what it looks like top down right, like you'd think

1:45:04 Speaker 2: that whoever was looking at that would be like you know,

1:45:07 Speaker 2: I want to create this, and we see this in

1:45:09 Speaker 2: our own pyramids, right, the precision that mathematically they are

1:45:14 Speaker 2: mirroring cosmology and mathematical precision. This seems like one of

1:45:20 Speaker 2: those kind of things where it's it's built not because

1:45:25 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not built next to but it's built

1:45:30 Speaker 2: because of right.

1:45:33 Speaker 4: And I've got my own idea about why it's so

1:45:36 Speaker 4: damn close to this thing, and I'm inspired by the

1:45:41 Speaker 4: work of Jeffrey.

1:45:42 Speaker 2: It does look like the Signs logo.

1:45:46 Speaker 4: Do you know Jeffrey Drum of the Land of Kem, Yes, yes, Okay,

1:45:51 Speaker 4: he's talking about the Egyptian pyramids being these chemical factories.

1:45:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.

1:45:56 Speaker 4: His main one of his main thesis is that the

1:46:01 Speaker 4: Great Pyramid needed to be in close proximity to a

1:46:05 Speaker 4: water source because it had Right, what would this crater

1:46:10 Speaker 4: have been filled with back when.

1:46:12 Speaker 3: It was a blue planet? Oh, that's what I like

1:46:19 Speaker 3: to go with.

1:46:19 Speaker 4: I don't spend a whole lot of time messaging on that,

1:46:21 Speaker 4: but I'm like, well, if I'm going to borrow something

1:46:23 Speaker 4: from that logic, that makes sense to me. All right,

1:46:26 Speaker 4: let's let's take a close bet. We got a better

1:46:30 Speaker 4: This was taken a quarter century ago. Let's take a

1:46:33 Speaker 4: better look. They reimage this with better resolution cameras.

1:46:41 Speaker 5: What the fuck?

1:46:43 Speaker 3: Okay?

1:46:43 Speaker 4: And you can see the sides better here. It's a

1:46:46 Speaker 4: better contrast, all right. And it is right on the

1:46:51 Speaker 4: lip of this crater, and you can see there's no damage.

1:46:56 Speaker 4: There's no damage to this thing. And I'm seeing one, two, three,

1:47:02 Speaker 4: four sides, straight lines rising to an apex.

1:47:08 Speaker 2: How is this? I mean, do you think they've had

1:47:14 Speaker 2: rovers go up to these and confirm this and they're

1:47:19 Speaker 2: just not telling us?

1:47:21 Speaker 4: No, I don't think they're they're purposefully avoiding these locations

1:47:25 Speaker 4: with the rovers.

1:47:27 Speaker 3: Now, interestingly enough.

1:47:28 Speaker 2: We have come on, come on, Brian, Brian, you're gonna

1:47:34 Speaker 2: tell me you think that they are not doing absolutely

1:47:39 Speaker 2: everything they can outside of the public eye to find

1:47:43 Speaker 2: out what the fuck that thing is.

1:47:46 Speaker 3: I don't think they need a rover to figure that out.

1:47:48 Speaker 2: Well, agreed, like some sort of secret space initiative.

1:47:54 Speaker 3: It is certainly possible.

1:47:55 Speaker 4: Again, ty, I try to keep my messaging to the

1:47:57 Speaker 4: nuts and bolts, you know, fair enough, all right? And

1:48:01 Speaker 4: the the interesting thing about this is you. You you

1:48:09 Speaker 4: talked about you, you you mentioned the remote viewers.

1:48:12 Speaker 3: Okay, Joe mcmonagall right, and Ingo Swan. He had a team.

1:48:16 Speaker 4: Okay, this is the Stargate program and they were talking

1:48:19 Speaker 4: about remote viewing Mars.

1:48:22 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, well I think one what was it one? Well, yeah,

1:48:29 Speaker 2: million years BC or something like that.

1:48:31 Speaker 4: Joe mcmonagall to clarify, Joe McGonagall was tasked to view

1:48:36 Speaker 4: Mars one million years BC. Okay, and then most people

1:48:41 Speaker 4: miss this part. But then his monitor asks Joe mcmonagle says,

1:48:45 Speaker 4: I'm seeing the after effects of a cataclysm here, and

1:48:48 Speaker 4: then his monitor says, well, go back to the time

1:48:51 Speaker 4: before the cataclysm, and then that's where his you know,

1:48:55 Speaker 4: viewing picks up from. But regardless of yes, it's a

1:48:59 Speaker 4: long time in the past.

1:49:00 Speaker 2: Just didn't he say that he saw beings there and

1:49:03 Speaker 2: one of the beings saw him.

1:49:05 Speaker 4: Yes, he did. But the pyramid that he saw was

1:49:10 Speaker 4: this one. This he was talking about.

1:49:16 Speaker 3: Whoa this specific one way.

1:49:21 Speaker 4: And if you go on YouTube, you can find a

1:49:23 Speaker 4: clip of Joe mcmonacle giving a presentation showing this same

1:49:28 Speaker 4: exact pyramid, talking about this telling you everything I'm telling you.

1:49:32 Speaker 2: Now and if where to believe what he saw was real,

1:49:35 Speaker 2: then he saw beings inhabiting that area.

1:49:43 Speaker 3: Perhaps perhaps again, I don't know if it's.

1:49:46 Speaker 4: This area or another area, but he he remote viewed it.

1:49:50 Speaker 4: Then he got the coordinates and went to JPL and

1:49:54 Speaker 4: found he calls them negatives, but he found the photographic evidence.

1:49:58 Speaker 4: And what he looked at before was you know, the

1:50:00 Speaker 4: one I showed you just a second ago, this thing,

1:50:02 Speaker 4: but this is a later This is later image, but

1:50:04 Speaker 4: it is this precise one that he and Ingo Swan's

1:50:09 Speaker 4: team remote viewed and they all reported the same thing.

1:50:13 Speaker 4: Large megalithic structure one point seven miles wide and four

1:50:19 Speaker 4: Oh here's here's the best part. NASA has actually commented

1:50:23 Speaker 4: on this.

1:50:24 Speaker 3: This one here, and what they say.

1:50:29 Speaker 4: Is that they consider this to be something a geological

1:50:33 Speaker 4: term known as a came k a m E all right,

1:50:43 Speaker 4: or a knob another word of another word that they

1:50:47 Speaker 4: use k n O B. Knob is a more common

1:50:51 Speaker 4: way of saying came These are geological terms, but they

1:50:53 Speaker 4: are both used to describe essentially what amounts to a

1:50:56 Speaker 4: glacial deposit. Glaciers deposits. Glaciers pick stuff up when they move,

1:51:05 Speaker 4: and then when they melt away. This is all the

1:51:08 Speaker 4: stuff that's left after they melt away. Now, I don't

1:51:10 Speaker 4: know how mother nature would pick up a bunch of

1:51:14 Speaker 4: rocks and debris, loose rocks and debris form a symmetrical

1:51:21 Speaker 4: pyramid with four equal flat sides one point seven miles wide.

1:51:26 Speaker 4: I don't know how glacier does that. That to me

1:51:29 Speaker 4: sounds like bullshit. But that's the best that NASA has.

1:51:35 Speaker 4: NASA wants to frame everything into geological context. Clearly, that's nonsense.

1:51:41 Speaker 2: I agree. I couldn't agree more.

1:51:45 Speaker 3: All right, just a few more here.

1:51:47 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm loving this.

1:51:49 Speaker 4: Okay, same kind of thing, big landscape. This is a

1:51:58 Speaker 4: composite of multiple images. But you can see these giant

1:52:01 Speaker 4: craters here. You know, this crater here is probably eight

1:52:11 Speaker 4: miles wide, let's say.

1:52:13 Speaker 2: And then directly in the middle. Again, what do you

1:52:16 Speaker 2: see a fucking pyramid?

1:52:20 Speaker 3: Something just just doesn't look.

1:52:23 Speaker 2: Something I spy with my little eye. Something that doesn't

1:52:28 Speaker 2: fit the surroundings.

1:52:31 Speaker 3: Yep. So if we especially.

1:52:34 Speaker 2: When it's contrasted with a bunch of fucking circles.

1:52:38 Speaker 3: Yep, it's it's not. Do you see any mountain ranges

1:52:41 Speaker 3: in here?

1:52:43 Speaker 2: Not that I would be of an identify.

1:52:45 Speaker 3: Wait, you know what a mountain range looks like?

1:52:47 Speaker 4: You look at Google maps often enough to be like

1:52:50 Speaker 4: the Colorado Rockies, right, you know what a mountain range

1:52:52 Speaker 4: looks like.

1:52:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see any elevated, any elevated landscapes that

1:53:00 Speaker 2: that would indicate.

1:53:02 Speaker 4: That there was something here, Like this is elevated, clearly,

1:53:05 Speaker 4: but that's like a morphous hill or mesa or something

1:53:09 Speaker 4: like that. But it's clearly geometry or rather geological. But

1:53:15 Speaker 4: this thing here in the center, immediately we can tell

1:53:17 Speaker 4: there's something different about it.

1:53:18 Speaker 3: So what zoom into that? Shall we?

1:53:20 Speaker 2: Shall? We?

1:53:22 Speaker 3: Okay? That thing? Yes, that thing right there?

1:53:28 Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, right.

1:53:37 Speaker 4: Bro imagine if it's five hundred million years old, conservatively

1:53:43 Speaker 4: speaking from one side to another, each side on perpendicular

1:53:54 Speaker 4: sides is one point eight miles. We have four flat

1:54:00 Speaker 4: triangular sides, all rising to an apex. We have opposing

1:54:08 Speaker 4: ninety degree angles. It is not part of a mountain range.

1:54:16 Speaker 4: And if you notice ti there's craters all over the place,

1:54:22 Speaker 4: but not really on this thing.

1:54:25 Speaker 2: Yeah. Can you you zoom out a little bit?

1:54:29 Speaker 3: Yeah?

1:54:30 Speaker 2: So see this, uh this like it almost looks like

1:54:36 Speaker 2: the line continues up and down to the land. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1:54:44 Speaker 2: I wonder what that is?

1:54:47 Speaker 3: Good question?

1:54:49 Speaker 2: Maybe like water runoff where there was like a little

1:54:53 Speaker 2: bit of a lake or something. Again, so assuming that

1:54:58 Speaker 2: you know these things are near water at one point

1:55:02 Speaker 2: to some degree, Uh, that one, I'll admit, this one

1:55:08 Speaker 2: is probably the one I'm gonna have the most hard

1:55:13 Speaker 2: time with. So yeah, I just I don't know why.

1:55:20 Speaker 2: I just I can't exactly explain why, But I can't

1:55:24 Speaker 2: deny that there are four distinct triangular shapes pointing to

1:55:31 Speaker 2: an apex with no discernible mountain range or elevation around,

1:55:39 Speaker 2: and in fact it's the opposite. It looks like it's

1:55:42 Speaker 2: been checkered with with with impact comparison for that looks

1:55:50 Speaker 2: a lot.

1:55:53 Speaker 4: Now, it looks like it's eroded or damaged or something here.

1:55:59 Speaker 2: But right, this could be the worst one look wise,

1:56:02 Speaker 2: you know, sure this could be the one that took

1:56:04 Speaker 2: the most damage.

1:56:05 Speaker 3: We don't know, right, Uh.

1:56:09 Speaker 2: Interesting this, this, this makes me feel better about it

1:56:12 Speaker 2: right now?

1:56:13 Speaker 4: How do know why I'm gonna I'm gonna bring up

1:56:17 Speaker 4: we actually have a tool that lets us uh view

1:56:24 Speaker 4: this in three D tie which I have to show

1:56:27 Speaker 4: you because ummm, just bear with me one moment while

1:56:31 Speaker 4: I while I bring that up.

1:56:33 Speaker 2: That's fine, guys, what in the chat. What do you

1:56:36 Speaker 2: guys think? What are you guys thinking of these? Uh

1:56:38 Speaker 2: of these structures on Mars. I really want to know.

1:56:44 Speaker 2: You know, this is for me. Uh oh, wait one second,

1:56:47 Speaker 2: this is really for me and and me asking. But

1:56:51 Speaker 2: you know, we haven't even got He showed me this

1:56:56 Speaker 2: one picture of something in the the atmosphere of Mars,

1:57:02 Speaker 2: which I can't wait till we get to. But with

1:57:06 Speaker 2: these essentially, you know, one of the things I've had

1:57:10 Speaker 2: a tough time with over our ancient civilizations. What we

1:57:17 Speaker 2: were taught in school is that most of these cultures

1:57:24 Speaker 2: did not have any contact with each other because the

1:57:27 Speaker 2: distances were too great. Yet they all built the same

1:57:32 Speaker 2: exact structure. Now you could hypothetically say, you know, the

1:57:39 Speaker 2: hundredth monkey. Right Once that knowledge is there, it's there

1:57:47 Speaker 2: for everyone to grab. That's why when someone breaks a

1:57:50 Speaker 2: world record, someone breaks that record right after that, and

1:57:53 Speaker 2: then again after that, and then it might get held

1:57:55 Speaker 2: for some time. But it seems that and that's exactly

1:57:59 Speaker 2: why you know, a monkey halfway across the world who

1:58:04 Speaker 2: learns to smash a coconut with a rock. It happened simultaneously. Now,

1:58:11 Speaker 2: of course we're talking what we're most likely referring to

1:58:16 Speaker 2: here as some sort of quantum quantum field that we

1:58:21 Speaker 2: can't see. Whether you call it the ether, the source,

1:58:25 Speaker 2: the muse, I don't know what it really is. But

1:58:29 Speaker 2: it seems that once it's unlocked, even going back to

1:58:34 Speaker 2: the biological five pointed being right, once that works, once

1:58:41 Speaker 2: it works everywhere. Uh, And that's what it seems to be.

1:58:45 Speaker 2: So these pyramids that we see all over our our

1:58:49 Speaker 2: every continent, every single continent has these has these structures.

1:58:55 Speaker 2: Is this just the best way to build some tall,

1:58:59 Speaker 2: big bass coming to an apex potentially? Potentially? But tell

1:59:05 Speaker 2: me how they did it. They did not. They certainly

1:59:08 Speaker 2: didn't do it with wet sand and rollers placing a

1:59:12 Speaker 2: block every one minute for twenty years straight. Get the

1:59:15 Speaker 2: fuck out of here with that. Stop acting like I'm

1:59:18 Speaker 2: a child. I'm not dumb. That's not how those were made.

1:59:23 Speaker 2: But if I'm sorry, let me just finish this one point.

1:59:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, if.

1:59:31 Speaker 2: We start confirming that there are pyramids on other celestial

1:59:38 Speaker 2: objects in our solar system, the implications of that alone

1:59:48 Speaker 2: of what this could be. This could be some sort

1:59:52 Speaker 2: of global, not even global, I'm sorry, interplanetary system of

2:00:03 Speaker 2: free energy who knows but isn't doubt what life is

2:00:10 Speaker 2: chasing those fucking mysteries. Why are we letting science dictate

2:00:15 Speaker 2: what we look at and what's why do we let

2:00:19 Speaker 2: these fucking people tell us what's what's true or not?

2:00:25 Speaker 2: This is incredible. Let's go out and fucking stop pretending

2:00:30 Speaker 2: that we're not spinning on a fucking rock, hurtling through

2:00:34 Speaker 2: space and not taking this breath. The next one and

2:00:39 Speaker 2: the next one isn't a miracle in itself and it

2:00:43 Speaker 2: shouldn't happen. We just we stop pretending. Just because you

2:00:51 Speaker 2: fear the unknown doesn't make it less real. So sorry,

2:00:56 Speaker 2: that was my little tangent.

2:00:57 Speaker 4: Oh that's cool, Thank you for I had to find

2:00:59 Speaker 4: the link I was looking to give you. Yes, thank you, Okay,

2:01:05 Speaker 4: cal Tech actually has mapped all of this imagery onto

2:01:09 Speaker 4: a three dimensional model.

2:01:11 Speaker 3: You can go look at Mars and PD and manipulate it.

2:01:14 Speaker 4: So we have we're zooming up on the same thing

2:01:17 Speaker 4: here and I just want to show you what this

2:01:19 Speaker 4: looks like. And by the way, this was discovered. This

2:01:22 Speaker 4: was found by a gentleman in Colorado. His name is

2:01:25 Speaker 4: Gary Lagier. He does great work. I've highlighted him on

2:01:28 Speaker 4: my YouTube channel. He is a great YouTube channel too.

2:01:30 Speaker 4: So I want to give a shot up to the

2:01:32 Speaker 4: You know, I'm not the person who discovered these things,

2:01:35 Speaker 4: but there are independent researchers out there who do.

2:01:37 Speaker 3: I just want to mention that.

2:01:39 Speaker 4: So, but if we look at cal Tech's three dimensional

2:01:42 Speaker 4: rendering up this tie, look at what happens when we

2:01:46 Speaker 4: start to look at this thing from the side.

2:01:49 Speaker 3: There's nothing else like it in the area. Might be

2:02:00 Speaker 3: a little bit.

2:02:00 Speaker 4: Damaged on one side, but if you start to look

2:02:04 Speaker 4: at it in context, does Mother Nature do stuff like this?

2:02:10 Speaker 4: Put up something? Now, what they're basing this is they're

2:02:17 Speaker 4: they're using the shadows and the lights to try to

2:02:23 Speaker 4: render a three dimensional thing. I think you're on mute,

2:02:29 Speaker 4: so there.

2:02:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they're they're they're essentially doing what a visual

2:02:32 Speaker 2: effects artists would do, and they're but they're they're pulling

2:02:36 Speaker 2: from real still images and they're using mathematical formulas to

2:02:42 Speaker 2: create the depth and what you know, so this is

2:02:45 Speaker 2: probably this is the most accurate representation I would say

2:02:49 Speaker 2: that weren't going to get.

2:02:51 Speaker 1: So.

2:02:51 Speaker 4: Look, you can see, based based on the craters, the

2:02:53 Speaker 4: wind is blowing in one direction here.

2:02:57 Speaker 3: Right wind.

2:02:59 Speaker 2: There's no am I mistaken in saying this? Is there

2:03:02 Speaker 2: no tectonic shifting.

2:03:06 Speaker 4: Yeah, Mars isn't tectonically active like Earth is.

2:03:10 Speaker 2: And so I mean it's not pushing mountains and ship

2:03:13 Speaker 2: up right.

2:03:14 Speaker 4: Well if it, even if it were tie we'd see

2:03:17 Speaker 4: entire mountain ranges.

2:03:18 Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm getting to. So but but there's

2:03:21 Speaker 2: none of that.

2:03:22 Speaker 4: I don't know what makes something like this in nature

2:03:26 Speaker 4: that is nothing, it's not connected to anything else that's

2:03:30 Speaker 4: in the middle of nowhere. How does it just spring

2:03:34 Speaker 4: up like that? And O by the way, again, we

2:03:37 Speaker 4: have another rare moment where NASA comments on this, not

2:03:42 Speaker 4: by any public acknowledgment like a press release, but by

2:03:45 Speaker 4: what they title it on their website.

2:03:48 Speaker 3: Can you see this?

2:03:57 Speaker 2: Wait? What is this?

2:03:58 Speaker 4: This is where you go and you unload this image

2:04:00 Speaker 4: from the University of Arizona had the high rise camera okay,

2:04:08 Speaker 4: is on the Mars reconnaissance orbiter, and the University of

2:04:11 Speaker 4: Arizona runs this okay, So for all intents and purposes,

2:04:15 Speaker 4: this is this is where you download The NASA imagery

2:04:19 Speaker 4: is from the University of Arizona's website for this particular mission. Okay,

2:04:23 Speaker 4: and this is what look NASA, JPL, Caltech, Universay, Arizona.

2:04:27 Speaker 4: This is what they call it. So you just mentioned

2:04:29 Speaker 4: the P word. You mentioned the P word a few

2:04:33 Speaker 4: minutes ago, the paradolia. Are we just seeing things? Well,

2:04:36 Speaker 4: clearly we're not seeing things. Even NASA says, hey, this

2:04:39 Speaker 4: looks like a pyramid. Right, there's no other way to

2:04:43 Speaker 4: describe it. That's their words, exactly. Their their words is

2:04:49 Speaker 4: pyramidal mound. Now they are kind of doing a conundrum

2:04:53 Speaker 4: there by saying pyramidal mound. I see what they're doing there,

2:04:57 Speaker 4: but it's almost like they're putting it in your face

2:05:00 Speaker 4: and then it almost like lets them sleep at night.

2:05:05 Speaker 3: Right, Yes, there is no such thing as a pyramidal mound.

2:05:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't. That doesn't work like that. I'm sorry.

2:05:12 Speaker 2: But so putting those things together, it's like it's like

2:05:15 Speaker 2: they're they're telling you, but they have to call it

2:05:18 Speaker 2: a mound because they can't have a pyramid.

2:05:21 Speaker 4: They have to try to contextualize it using geology to

2:05:24 Speaker 4: make everyone feel better.

2:05:25 Speaker 2: Right, because again going back to that fear of the unknown,

2:05:29 Speaker 2: because if we say these are pyramids, the immediate next

2:05:33 Speaker 2: question is from.

2:05:35 Speaker 4: Who from who built them exactly from who I got

2:05:41 Speaker 4: one more pyramid and then we can go to UFOs.

2:05:44 Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, man, by the way, might be the best.

2:05:47 Speaker 2: I don't want to guys stay for the UFO stuff.

2:05:57 Speaker 2: Might be one of the ass UFO shots I've ever

2:06:03 Speaker 2: seen because there's nothing that's supposed to be there.

2:06:09 Speaker 4: So all right, continue, Okay, I want to give a

2:06:12 Speaker 4: shout out again to Gary Lagier in Colorado. He's the

2:06:15 Speaker 4: one who found this next one.

2:06:20 Speaker 3: Here we go. This is just a quick comparison.

2:06:25 Speaker 4: China has a bunch of these pyramids with the large

2:06:30 Speaker 4: flat top.

2:06:30 Speaker 3: They're all over the place in.

2:06:31 Speaker 2: China, so it's like a regular pyramid. It's just that

2:06:36 Speaker 2: the point de part is kind of like chopped off.

2:06:40 Speaker 4: Right, and they've got dozens of these things just scattered

2:06:44 Speaker 4: all over the landscape.

2:06:45 Speaker 3: China doesn't really like to acknowledge this or talk.

2:06:47 Speaker 4: About it, but yeah, they won't admit it, right right, So,

2:06:50 Speaker 4: but they exist, and in our opinion, this find here

2:06:56 Speaker 4: matches closely this sort of thing here that we see

2:07:00 Speaker 4: in China. Again, we have opposing ninety degree angles. This

2:07:05 Speaker 4: is this is over two miles long. I don't know

2:07:09 Speaker 4: what in nature makes two miles long, opposing ninety ninety

2:07:12 Speaker 4: degree angles for equal flat triangular size leading up to

2:07:15 Speaker 4: an apex which is flat. I don't know how you

2:07:18 Speaker 4: look at this and say there's nothing to see here.

2:07:22 Speaker 4: Now what you notice here off in the corner is

2:07:25 Speaker 4: that there's an impact crater again.

2:07:29 Speaker 3: Okay, now, maybe this one came.

2:07:33 Speaker 4: Maybe this side is damaged a little bit or eroded.

2:07:36 Speaker 4: I don't It's hard to tell, but.

2:07:38 Speaker 2: I would say if we d because if we drew

2:07:41 Speaker 2: a line right from from the other side down that

2:07:47 Speaker 2: that would come pretty close to the lip of that.

2:07:51 Speaker 2: And that seems to be a theme or that these

2:07:54 Speaker 2: things are built near these these. Yeah, I mean, it's

2:07:59 Speaker 2: an interesting detail. I don't know what to make of it,

2:08:03 Speaker 2: but it's an interesting detail.

2:08:05 Speaker 4: But this, in my opinion, all these are much better

2:08:09 Speaker 4: conditioned than these.

2:08:10 Speaker 2: Which this is fucking crazy to me. This one on

2:08:15 Speaker 2: the top, by the way, the Hyaya Hawaiia Hawara pyramid,

2:08:21 Speaker 2: that one reminds me very I mean, is there any

2:08:25 Speaker 2: way we can compare the Hawara to the last pyramid

2:08:30 Speaker 2: you showed me on Mars, because I think those ones

2:08:33 Speaker 2: look the most similar.

2:08:37 Speaker 3: Sure, let me just get another.

2:08:40 Speaker 2: I don't want to make you do it off the cough.

2:08:43 Speaker 2: But I think Kawara and that last pyramid, those are

2:08:49 Speaker 2: like they almost look like carbon copies of each other.

2:08:53 Speaker 5: Not the.

2:08:55 Speaker 2: Not this one, the second last one, oh the one

2:08:59 Speaker 2: that's in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, we had the

2:09:02 Speaker 2: three D rendering of Look at that. Look at those

2:09:08 Speaker 2: two things. Even the divots look similar.

2:09:16 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, look at that.

2:09:18 Speaker 2: Look even the divots look close, very fucking close to

2:09:21 Speaker 2: each other. So that's why when I saw that last one,

2:09:24 Speaker 2: I kept I was like, oh God, those really looked close.

2:09:28 Speaker 4: That's a that's a good thing. I didn't notice that before.

2:09:31 Speaker 4: How about that?

2:09:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, those the way the lines form and the way

2:09:35 Speaker 2: that they divot down and stuff, it give me very

2:09:38 Speaker 2: similar vibes.

2:09:40 Speaker 4: So all I'm saying is that, look, if we're accepting

2:09:43 Speaker 4: that these Egyptian degraded pyramids are in fact pyramids.

2:09:47 Speaker 3: Why is it so hard to.

2:09:50 Speaker 4: It's because that it's it's on Mars, and that's scary.

2:09:53 Speaker 4: Why are there pyramids and where there shouldn't be pyramids

2:09:55 Speaker 4: on Mars? NASA told us it's just rocks and wind.

2:10:00 Speaker 2: It's not. I don't think it is. There's the I

2:10:03 Speaker 2: think I think there is if if if court, if

2:10:07 Speaker 2: if the courts are accepting of I hope you use

2:10:10 Speaker 2: that in your presentation going forward because those those two things,

2:10:14 Speaker 2: because you could show someone all right, he trick them,

2:10:19 Speaker 2: make them believe that that's the Hawara is the one.

2:10:22 Speaker 3: On Mars, right, Oh, that's that's good.

2:10:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then switch it and be like, no, no,

2:10:28 Speaker 2: it's actually this one in this one.

2:10:30 Speaker 3: T buy me some time I can just I gotta

2:10:32 Speaker 3: go to the bathroom real quick.

2:10:33 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I don't know if anyone could tell me

2:10:37 Speaker 2: that that is not exactly what we're seeing here. Look

2:10:40 Speaker 2: at that. Uh yeah, so this is okay, so this

2:10:50 Speaker 2: is a pyramid on Mars. This is a structure on

2:10:56 Speaker 2: Mars that is top down on uh uh pyramid on

2:11:03 Speaker 2: Egypt in Egypt, why you know, and that's obviously the

2:11:12 Speaker 2: Geeze a pyramid. But I pointed out that this is

2:11:16 Speaker 2: the that I was like, oh, these look very very similar,

2:11:19 Speaker 2: but don't pay attention to that. But these two that

2:11:23 Speaker 2: one's on Mars ones on Earth, and they look like

2:11:27 Speaker 2: so it's it's we accept that. We go, okay, we

2:11:32 Speaker 2: know that's a pyramid that was built as a pyramid,

2:11:35 Speaker 2: but they won't concede that this thing on Mars could

2:11:39 Speaker 2: potentially be a pyramid. I think I find that to

2:11:43 Speaker 2: be crazy. Right, we're actually live right now, so sorry

2:11:51 Speaker 2: I was explaining it, guys, This is I mean again,

2:11:59 Speaker 2: I I've always said this thing about the cosmos reflecting,

2:12:08 Speaker 2: just reflecting from a macro to a down to the micro.

2:12:14 Speaker 2: And I forget who showed me at this one time,

2:12:19 Speaker 2: but have you ever looked at the Giza pyramid top

2:12:22 Speaker 2: the whole complex, the great pyramid like complex, and when

2:12:27 Speaker 2: you look at it top down and then look at

2:12:31 Speaker 2: a circuit board or like a circuit, it looks very similar.

2:12:36 Speaker 2: And I've always kind of, you know, thought about that,

2:12:39 Speaker 2: and uh, you know, wondered, wondered deeply. But okay, Brian,

2:12:45 Speaker 2: you're back. Now, We're onto the good, the goods.

2:12:50 Speaker 4: Okay, at a glance, at a glance, you guys, you guys,

2:12:55 Speaker 4: everyone here knows the gimbal Ufo footage.

2:12:58 Speaker 3: This was leaked by Alexondo, right.

2:13:02 Speaker 2: Alexando, Chris Mellen and uh then to the New York

2:13:06 Speaker 2: Times it went, and yes, but the video have been

2:13:09 Speaker 2: online prior, but it was never It was in like

2:13:13 Speaker 2: obscure sits and no one could really ever find it, Like,

2:13:17 Speaker 2: no one ever knew if it was real or not.

2:13:20 Speaker 4: So we have what a disc shape with a bulblesmid

2:13:23 Speaker 4: section essentially rotates, which rotates right and at a glance,

2:13:28 Speaker 4: here's just a sampling of this of similar shapes found

2:13:33 Speaker 4: in the sky of Mars.

2:13:37 Speaker 2: Wait are you Are you saying that everything that's on

2:13:40 Speaker 2: the side frames is in the atmosphere has been caught

2:13:45 Speaker 2: in the atmosphere of Mars. Yes, you gotta be you're joking.

2:13:52 Speaker 6: So this is this is Are you sure it's not

2:13:55 Speaker 6: like Saturn? I can show you the photo, we can

2:14:01 Speaker 6: go through each one of these. It's just at a glance,

2:14:03 Speaker 6: this is this is what gets me so excited and

2:14:06 Speaker 6: what whoa why why Total Disclosure tie should include.

2:14:12 Speaker 3: Mars because we're seeing these same shapes.

2:14:16 Speaker 2: Listen, man, That's why I named the show Total Disclosure,

2:14:20 Speaker 2: because I'm not fighting for just one truth m but

2:14:26 Speaker 2: all truth. Right, So Mars Disclosure is my disclosure too.

2:14:32 Speaker 2: We're We're in this together, brother, That's why I talk

2:14:36 Speaker 2: to people. You know, even my producer gets upset with

2:14:40 Speaker 2: me when I do the nine to eleven shows. But dude,

2:14:45 Speaker 2: I'm because you know, he's a Patriot. I'm actually sitting

2:14:48 Speaker 2: on his side of the the studio tonight because I

2:14:51 Speaker 2: wanted to watch the Ghosts that way. Anyone who knows

2:14:55 Speaker 2: the show will get that reference. But uh yeah, huh.

2:15:02 Speaker 2: I told Brian that he had to pretend he didn't

2:15:04 Speaker 2: hear that joke because I said it before the show.

2:15:08 Speaker 2: He laughed on cue is pretty good. Good, good job man.

2:15:13 Speaker 2: But he gets mad at me for doing those shows.

2:15:18 Speaker 2: But I'm like, dude, I'm not I'm not fighting for

2:15:21 Speaker 2: just one thing, like I'm fighting for like what happened

2:15:26 Speaker 2: to JFK, what happened to MLK? What happened to what? What?

2:15:31 Speaker 2: What's going on with Mars? What's what? Like? Because if anything,

2:15:38 Speaker 2: what it is is it shows you the playing field

2:15:43 Speaker 2: and the the the vice, the grip that those in

2:15:49 Speaker 2: power have on the population that they're able to keep

2:15:54 Speaker 2: all this ship from us. Like the people in the

2:15:57 Speaker 2: UFO field keep thinking, oh, well, look at their their

2:16:01 Speaker 2: Look what they're hiding from us. It's like, dog, that's

2:16:04 Speaker 2: only one facet. Like all of our lives are essentially

2:16:10 Speaker 2: this fucking fake reality, this like pop up world for

2:16:15 Speaker 2: the Deep State to run cover. It's like it's sad

2:16:20 Speaker 2: but it's look at it. We go to work nine

2:16:23 Speaker 2: to five and we waste away at a job we

2:16:26 Speaker 2: typically hate. That's what ninety percent of us do. Luckily

2:16:31 Speaker 2: me and him know we found our calling. More people

2:16:34 Speaker 2: need to do that, but like, wake up, like seriously,

2:16:39 Speaker 2: wake the fuck up. Sorry, continue.

2:16:43 Speaker 4: I want to give a shout out to Jean Ward

2:16:45 Speaker 4: in South Africa and another gentleman by the name of

2:16:47 Speaker 4: Joe White who found all of these that we're looking

2:16:51 Speaker 4: at today. And I don't know if Carrie is still

2:16:54 Speaker 4: watching Kry and Norway, but since I published my YouTube

2:16:56 Speaker 4: video on this, she's found a half dozen more just

2:16:59 Speaker 4: like this, so she's doing a great job of finding

2:17:03 Speaker 4: even more. But it's this disc shape with a bulbles

2:17:06 Speaker 4: mid section that that catches our eye. And if we

2:17:10 Speaker 4: were to go through and look at these all in context,

2:17:12 Speaker 4: Kai Ti, then we could We could view them in

2:17:16 Speaker 4: context and explain why, explain away the conventional explanations as to.

2:17:23 Speaker 3: What people might skeptics might claim that they are.

2:17:26 Speaker 2: Well because ninety percent of that would be things that

2:17:29 Speaker 2: can't exist there.

2:17:32 Speaker 4: So here here's typical rovert photograph. But if you have

2:17:38 Speaker 4: a keen eye.

2:17:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can already see something that see very clearly

2:17:44 Speaker 2: between me the cat well us the camera. Yeah, and

2:17:50 Speaker 2: that elevated range. There's something hanging below the horizon, above

2:17:58 Speaker 2: the surface, right.

2:18:01 Speaker 3: So if we zoom in here.

2:18:05 Speaker 2: Dude, you gotta be fucking kidding like, you gotta be

2:18:08 Speaker 2: kidding me.

2:18:09 Speaker 3: Man, this is an unadulterated raw image.

2:18:13 Speaker 2: You got to be kidding me.

2:18:16 Speaker 4: But what do we see? We see a disc shape

2:18:17 Speaker 4: with a bulbous mid section. Okay, now I want to

2:18:21 Speaker 4: be clear here. We have the great fortune of having

2:18:25 Speaker 4: raw images in and just by themselves are able to

2:18:30 Speaker 4: demonstrate the anomalous aspect of the photo, which is what

2:18:35 Speaker 4: draws our eye to begin with. Okay, some of these

2:18:38 Speaker 4: people working with these images just so happen to be

2:18:42 Speaker 4: imaging experts and can help improve the quality of the

2:18:46 Speaker 4: image by using a process known as deconvolution.

2:18:49 Speaker 3: Are you familiar with deconvolution?

2:18:52 Speaker 2: I don't think so. Can you enlighten me.

2:18:55 Speaker 4: Deconvolution is a process where they'll take an image that

2:18:58 Speaker 4: looks slightly blurry or out of focus and make it

2:19:04 Speaker 4: in focus.

2:19:05 Speaker 3: Okay, NASA has used this, so.

2:19:08 Speaker 2: It's is there any But what are we doing to

2:19:13 Speaker 2: to achieve.

2:19:14 Speaker 3: That, so it it.

2:19:17 Speaker 4: Okay, there is modern day software right now called gigapixel,

2:19:21 Speaker 4: which is made by a company known as Topaz Labs.

2:19:24 Speaker 4: All Right, I know, Okay, NASA uses this software to

2:19:31 Speaker 4: deconvolute imagery that they take of, you know, from from

2:19:37 Speaker 4: their telescopes and such.

2:19:39 Speaker 2: So I would assume what they're doing is they are

2:19:45 Speaker 2: collecting on a base level the pixels right, looking at

2:19:49 Speaker 2: the pixelation, and then kind of smoothing smooth, smoothing that

2:19:56 Speaker 2: part out here.

2:19:57 Speaker 3: Can you see this? Oops? Can you see this crater?

2:20:03 Speaker 2: Ah?

2:20:05 Speaker 4: Okay, this is this was taken long before any AI

2:20:11 Speaker 4: tools existed, all right. They trained the computer software to

2:20:18 Speaker 4: help resolve the image quality a little bit better. So

2:20:21 Speaker 4: this this is from Look, this is a Wikipedia article

2:20:25 Speaker 4: on deconvolution. This stuff was invented in the seventies. Okay,

2:20:29 Speaker 4: they started doing this fifty years ago, and this is

2:20:35 Speaker 4: an old photograph. So NASA uses this on their own

2:20:38 Speaker 4: images because they understand that it can resolve these images,

2:20:43 Speaker 4: essentially enhancing the quality. But it's not mischaracterizing what it

2:20:48 Speaker 4: is that we're seeing. Does that make sense very much?

2:20:51 Speaker 2: So, like it's not taking too much, it's it's it's

2:20:56 Speaker 2: taking far met less liberty than I anticipated, even with

2:21:02 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not gonna lie, Like in the bottom corners,

2:21:08 Speaker 2: it seems to accentuate some of the bulges a bit

2:21:13 Speaker 2: like in the like the not not not in the

2:21:15 Speaker 2: main image, like not in the main center of the image.

2:21:19 Speaker 2: But the further you go out towards the edge, unless

2:21:22 Speaker 2: the the unless the crop ratio i'm seeing is different,

2:21:26 Speaker 2: like the the little circle towards the bottom right, it

2:21:31 Speaker 2: seems far bigger than what it looks like in the original.

2:21:35 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's just my eyes getting messed with,

2:21:39 Speaker 2: but is this the same exact ratio?

2:21:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure what you're seeing. I just see

2:21:49 Speaker 4: the side by side here.

2:21:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but it's I guess it's too hard to

2:21:54 Speaker 2: point out.

2:21:55 Speaker 3: You see a crater here?

2:21:56 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, that the the one to one on that

2:21:59 Speaker 2: is is I think, Okay, it doesn't take liberty. It doesn't.

2:22:03 Speaker 2: It doesn't. It's not adding things that it shouldn't, right, right,

2:22:07 Speaker 2: it's a very very very very very good enhancement.

2:22:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.

2:22:13 Speaker 4: So the point I'm trying to make here is that

2:22:16 Speaker 4: this is something that NASA themselves use. They see this

2:22:20 Speaker 4: as a legitimate form of enhancing the quality of the

2:22:23 Speaker 4: images that they take with their own instruments. All right, Now,

2:22:26 Speaker 4: what I'm telling you is that these independent Mars researchers

2:22:30 Speaker 4: use the same exact tool that NASA does to enhance

2:22:35 Speaker 4: the quality of the images. Because, believe it or not,

2:22:37 Speaker 4: the rover photographs are not high resolution, They're quite low.

2:22:41 Speaker 4: So what we are presented with there's a lot of

2:22:45 Speaker 4: this grain and pixelation that happens when you zoom weigh

2:22:51 Speaker 4: up on these things. Okay, I'm telling you this now

2:22:54 Speaker 4: because what I'm going to show you are deconvoluted images

2:22:58 Speaker 4: when we zoom into the uh, I'm gonna I'll zoom

2:23:01 Speaker 4: into it. I'll show you the before, but then i'm

2:23:04 Speaker 4: gonna show you the after once we've deconvoluted.

2:23:06 Speaker 3: Does that make sense?

2:23:07 Speaker 2: That makes total sense? All right for anyone. I just

2:23:12 Speaker 2: want to take this time. I should have said this

2:23:14 Speaker 2: at the top of the show. I can't believe I'm

2:23:16 Speaker 2: saying it two and a half hours in. For anyone

2:23:19 Speaker 2: listening to this, you should come to YouTube and this

2:23:26 Speaker 2: is a highly Actually you know what, I don't even

2:23:28 Speaker 2: know if I'm gonna put this on the but no,

2:23:30 Speaker 2: I will I'll put it on the audio platforms, but

2:23:33 Speaker 2: this is a very visual episode and just yeah, head

2:23:40 Speaker 2: over to YouTube link in the description. Uh you gotta

2:23:43 Speaker 2: see this stuff, man, I know, right, you gotta because

2:23:47 Speaker 2: if you had told me that this is Arizona, right,

2:23:51 Speaker 2: this picture that we're looking at right now, I would

2:23:54 Speaker 2: say that that might be a balloon, a bird. I

2:23:58 Speaker 2: might say a balloon, a bird, a plane, right, all

2:24:05 Speaker 2: those things they're on Mars. Impossible, right, So I what

2:24:12 Speaker 2: the what is that?

2:24:13 Speaker 3: I know?

2:24:14 Speaker 4: All I'm saying is that it looks awfully similar to

2:24:16 Speaker 4: the Gimbal UFO.

2:24:18 Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.

2:24:19 Speaker 4: So if we're having congressional hearings over the gimble uf

2:24:22 Speaker 4: FO footage and saying that's a UFO flying saucers type deal,

2:24:26 Speaker 4: so I think we need to be taking a serious

2:24:28 Speaker 4: look at Mars.

2:24:29 Speaker 3: So so again this is where it starts.

2:24:32 Speaker 4: We got some good show and tell here, Okay, but

2:24:34 Speaker 4: if we zoom in and deconvolute the image, we can

2:24:37 Speaker 4: kind of get a better quality of it.

2:24:40 Speaker 3: Okay, you know what I mean.

2:24:42 Speaker 2: But did it also not put grass?

2:24:47 Speaker 3: Yeah?

2:24:47 Speaker 4: I mean it's not going to be perfect here, you know.

2:24:51 Speaker 4: So there's it has to resolve it somehow.

2:24:57 Speaker 2: But do you see that's what I meant, That's what

2:24:59 Speaker 2: I meant. The yeah that that that takes.

2:25:04 Speaker 3: But does it change the overall shape of this dramatically? What?

2:25:07 Speaker 2: What does not? I agree it does not.

2:25:11 Speaker 4: Even the raw image we can we can make out

2:25:13 Speaker 4: disc bulbous center, right, so coming in through here, that's.

2:25:19 Speaker 3: What we're looking at it.

2:25:20 Speaker 4: It doesn't really take too much livery like you're saying,

2:25:23 Speaker 4: all right, so that's that's that one.

2:25:26 Speaker 3: Next one, whoa, whoa?

2:25:33 Speaker 2: That is way too close to that hill. What the fuck?

2:25:45 Speaker 2: That looks like a amona? You ever heard of the

2:25:50 Speaker 2: ancient description of a of a of a? I can't

2:25:55 Speaker 2: even speak of a mana. This looks either this is

2:26:02 Speaker 2: like a triangular craft that we are seeing from like,

2:26:08 Speaker 2: you know, back end, maybe a little tilted upward because

2:26:11 Speaker 2: we're at where we're lower in elevation, so we're kind

2:26:15 Speaker 2: of seeing underneath it, but we're also seeing the backside

2:26:18 Speaker 2: of it. Unless that's what we're seeing. I mean, this

2:26:22 Speaker 2: looks like an upside down pyramid, yeah kind of right,

2:26:27 Speaker 2: or or a gimbal craft like you said, but yeah,

2:26:31 Speaker 2: right that.

2:26:33 Speaker 4: Wow, But clearly it's an anomaly, and you know, we

2:26:40 Speaker 4: can address the what people might call the conventional explanations

2:26:44 Speaker 4: as to why I don't think any of them apply here.

2:26:48 Speaker 2: No, what could that possibly be in the Mars?

2:26:52 Speaker 4: You know this, it's just a clear image here. Well,

2:26:58 Speaker 4: people want to go to it's dust on the lens.

2:27:02 Speaker 4: Oh okay, which, if you know anything about photography, that

2:27:10 Speaker 4: doesn't hold any water because dust on the lens does

2:27:13 Speaker 4: not present as these precise shapes. At best, it might

2:27:19 Speaker 4: blur the image a little bit, but the camera is

2:27:21 Speaker 4: focused so far out that anything directly on the lens

2:27:25 Speaker 4: you really don't even see.

2:27:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, the depth perception, it wouldn't show. It would not

2:27:32 Speaker 2: show the depth that when you zoom in the pixelation

2:27:39 Speaker 2: of the actual that's how you can tell that that

2:27:42 Speaker 2: is something that's actually in camera, Because the closer that

2:27:47 Speaker 2: you zoom in, the more pixelated it also gets. So

2:27:51 Speaker 2: a piece of dust that was closer would start to

2:27:55 Speaker 2: look like a like a circle, like it would start

2:27:58 Speaker 2: to look like a blur. Right, Yeah, that is not

2:28:03 Speaker 2: happening here.

2:28:04 Speaker 4: And for those I have it in that my video

2:28:07 Speaker 4: that I did on this, I demonstrate this by recording

2:28:10 Speaker 4: the whole video with a lot of dust on my

2:28:13 Speaker 4: camera lens, so and you can't see it at all. Okay,

2:28:18 Speaker 4: I've got two hundred specks of dust over the whole lens.

2:28:21 Speaker 4: I didn't bother to clean it off, and I took

2:28:23 Speaker 4: a photo of it so you can see it in

2:28:24 Speaker 4: the video to see what I recorded with you don't see,

2:28:27 Speaker 4: you're not aware of it.

2:28:29 Speaker 3: So dustin lens doesn't hold water.

2:28:31 Speaker 4: Dead pixels also doesn't hold water, because if it's a

2:28:35 Speaker 4: dead pixel, it's one pixel and it's there forever in

2:28:38 Speaker 4: every single photograph. And the thing about these things are

2:28:41 Speaker 4: they'll take a series of images. It's let's just say,

2:28:43 Speaker 4: they'll take twelve images in a row, and it only

2:28:46 Speaker 4: appears in let's just say one of them, okay, and

2:28:49 Speaker 4: these images are all twelve seconds apart.

2:28:51 Speaker 3: That's how the NASA rovers do it.

2:28:54 Speaker 4: So it's not a dead pixel, otherwise it would be

2:28:56 Speaker 4: there forever on every single image.

2:28:59 Speaker 3: Is it a it's known as a camera artifact.

2:29:02 Speaker 2: No.

2:29:03 Speaker 4: I can show you what a camera artifact looks like.

2:29:05 Speaker 4: That's later in this presentation. But we know it's not

2:29:08 Speaker 4: that either. There's a distinct difference between these things here

2:29:12 Speaker 4: and what a camera artifact renders has. And the only

2:29:15 Speaker 4: other explanation that people want to try to throw out

2:29:18 Speaker 4: is that it's something called a cosmic ray burst. And

2:29:20 Speaker 4: I know it's not that either, because I could show

2:29:22 Speaker 4: you what that looks like and you can see that

2:29:24 Speaker 4: it doesn't look like this either. So let me cycle

2:29:27 Speaker 4: through some more of these tie then I'll get to

2:29:29 Speaker 4: those last two in just a second.

2:29:31 Speaker 3: That's deconvoluted.

2:29:32 Speaker 4: Okay, wow, right, Wow, this one's funky.

2:29:41 Speaker 3: It's got a little tail, wow in the sky.

2:29:49 Speaker 2: Wow.

2:29:49 Speaker 4: Oh, here's what I'm talking about. Here's a series that

2:29:51 Speaker 4: that was the deconvoluted. But here's the raw image. Okay,

2:29:55 Speaker 4: and it's not there right, next one, not there, next one,

2:29:58 Speaker 4: Now it's there.

2:30:00 Speaker 3: A series, a series of three images. Okay.

2:30:03 Speaker 4: It's not a dead pixel, otherwise all of them would

2:30:05 Speaker 4: have that same thing there.

2:30:07 Speaker 2: And it's also not a piece of dust, because again

2:30:09 Speaker 2: we'd be looking very similar.

2:30:12 Speaker 4: Right, not dust, not a dead pixel. It's not a

2:30:15 Speaker 4: camera artifact, and it's not a cosmic ray burst.

2:30:19 Speaker 3: Okay.

2:30:20 Speaker 4: This is an object in the sky. And that's the thing.

2:30:24 Speaker 4: That's the other thing I wanted to mention too. All

2:30:26 Speaker 4: these things. You don't see this little shape render anywhere

2:30:31 Speaker 4: that's on the ground, and all these things I will

2:30:33 Speaker 4: show you. It's they're all in the sky. Okay, Why

2:30:39 Speaker 4: if this is.

2:30:41 Speaker 2: What it is, and I have a hard time figuring

2:30:46 Speaker 2: out what it could be, why is NASA releasing this?

2:30:53 Speaker 3: NASA? Really, you know?

2:30:55 Speaker 2: This is it? Right?

2:30:58 Speaker 3: Like? This is this is the thing.

2:31:00 Speaker 4: While there's so much there's so much pressure from the

2:31:04 Speaker 4: public pressuring the administration, NASA, Congress to release more and

2:31:10 Speaker 4: more UFO data. Right, we've been getting some of that. Meanwhile,

2:31:15 Speaker 4: very few people are paying attention to what NASA is

2:31:17 Speaker 4: actually doing with Mars. They're just releasing this stuff. It's

2:31:21 Speaker 4: not classified. They're just releasing on their website and saying

2:31:24 Speaker 4: nothing about it and hoping no one will notice. Right,

2:31:28 Speaker 4: there are people noticing it, which we but they don't

2:31:32 Speaker 4: even care.

2:31:33 Speaker 2: Because when you start saying, are going to five phone

2:31:35 Speaker 2: a UFO on Mars, right, check out and glaze their

2:31:39 Speaker 2: eyes over.

2:31:40 Speaker 4: Right, they're not gonna take you serious. They're gonna think

2:31:41 Speaker 4: you're a looney bin.

2:31:43 Speaker 3: Right.

2:31:43 Speaker 4: So this is this is why I'm trying my best

2:31:48 Speaker 4: to rewrite this narrative that there's nothing interesting on Mars.

2:31:51 Speaker 4: There's a whole lot of interesting things on Mars. No

2:31:54 Speaker 4: one's paying very few people are paying attention. So we've

2:31:59 Speaker 4: got the great Mars Disclosure has receipts, and we're going

2:32:06 Speaker 4: we're looking at a lot of them today, all right,

2:32:08 Speaker 4: so let's keep going. All right, So again, just a

2:32:11 Speaker 4: typical river photograph, and you might think, oh, that's just debris,

2:32:14 Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah blah.

2:32:15 Speaker 3: But here's the thing about this image. This shows us.

2:32:18 Speaker 4: Okay, we have it's not the best example, but right

2:32:22 Speaker 4: disc shape with the bulbous midsection. And I don't know

2:32:25 Speaker 4: what you want to make of these other two things.

2:32:26 Speaker 4: Maybe those are just weird little artifacts. I don't really know.

2:32:30 Speaker 4: But what I want to draw you attention to is

2:32:32 Speaker 4: this shape right here. See this here, this precise shape

2:32:36 Speaker 4: appears in multiple photographs on different days, and it appears

2:32:41 Speaker 4: in the same location and its exact same shape. This

2:32:45 Speaker 4: is a camera artifact. Okay, we've nicknamed this the booger,

2:32:50 Speaker 4: all right. This will appear in multiple photographs across different days.

2:32:57 Speaker 3: All right.

2:32:57 Speaker 4: This is a camera artifact that is not something that

2:33:00 Speaker 4: imaged in the sky. All this other stuff, different story.

2:33:03 Speaker 2: So that's see what the difference looks like.

2:33:06 Speaker 4: So we're ruling out camerat effects. We know what camera

2:33:09 Speaker 4: artiffects look like. That's a camera art effect.

2:33:12 Speaker 3: All right, this is.

2:33:16 Speaker 2: Kind of mind blowing. That looks like that. That is

2:33:21 Speaker 2: the closest thing I've seen to I mean, what the

2:33:27 Speaker 2: fuck is that?

2:33:28 Speaker 3: Dude. Here's the next one. This is odd because it's

2:33:31 Speaker 3: in a different orientation.

2:33:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, but again remember remember the footage.

2:33:41 Speaker 3: It was moving.

2:33:42 Speaker 2: Holy, it was rotating, rotating right right. So, and Bob

2:33:46 Speaker 2: Bazaar famously said that these things had to fly belly first,

2:33:52 Speaker 2: they would point towards their destination and rotate and then

2:33:56 Speaker 2: and multiple other people have seen these things take off

2:33:59 Speaker 2: and rotate and then move, you know, pretty silently, but

2:34:05 Speaker 2: very very fast, instantaneous acceleration, right, And that could explain

2:34:11 Speaker 2: why they're there in one picture, gone in the next,

2:34:13 Speaker 2: right exactly, because even the frame rate can't capture it.

2:34:16 Speaker 4: No, these photos are generally taking twelve seconds apart.

2:34:20 Speaker 2: That's so much time, guys, guys, let's all right, ready

2:34:26 Speaker 2: start that's what twelve seconds sounds feels like. That's a

2:34:42 Speaker 2: UFO blink gone exactly forty five times over.

2:34:48 Speaker 4: So this one, again, it's a disc shape with a

2:34:51 Speaker 4: bulbous mid section. I don't know about you, Tie, but

2:34:54 Speaker 4: I've seen enough photos in my life to know that

2:34:56 Speaker 4: cameras just don't produce that kind of weird glitch in

2:35:01 Speaker 4: a photo. Like have you ever looked at a photo

2:35:03 Speaker 4: and said, hey, look, there looks like a disc with

2:35:05 Speaker 4: the bubbles midsection? And any photos that you take with

2:35:08 Speaker 4: any camera ever, why is it just with NASA rover

2:35:10 Speaker 4: photographs that we're seeing this funky thing and in the military.

2:35:16 Speaker 2: Photog why is it always in the sky.

2:35:18 Speaker 3: It's in the sky, it's not down here.

2:35:20 Speaker 2: Exactly, never located like if it is an artifact, why

2:35:25 Speaker 2: is it consistently above the horizon, just in the air,

2:35:30 Speaker 2: over the surface, like unmistakably over.

2:35:34 Speaker 3: The every single one of these two.

2:35:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, why isn't it at the bottom left corner, Like.

2:35:40 Speaker 4: Here's the raw image of that one. This is the

2:35:43 Speaker 4: raw one on that one. Okay, So just all.

2:35:45 Speaker 2: Transparency, Like, why isn't that Why isn't that camera right exactly?

2:35:51 Speaker 2: Why is it where that purple thing is? What?

2:35:53 Speaker 4: What?

2:35:54 Speaker 2: Why is it only happening in places that you know

2:35:58 Speaker 2: it seemingly is in the it's in the I say air,

2:36:03 Speaker 2: but you.

2:36:03 Speaker 3: Know, yeah, right, it is.

2:36:05 Speaker 2: It's it's the sky in the sky of Mars.

2:36:10 Speaker 4: Okay, here's another one clearly rover here just just you know,

2:36:16 Speaker 4: disc shape, bulbous mid section.

2:36:19 Speaker 2: And there's no way that that's like a planet, right, No,

2:36:26 Speaker 2: that's not Saturn with a ring.

2:36:28 Speaker 3: No that we the rover navigation camera. All this is.

2:36:35 Speaker 4: Now you cannot resolve something like like that just from

2:36:40 Speaker 4: one of the You need a telescope, uh for for

2:36:43 Speaker 4: Saturn or even Mars's moon to show up and something

2:36:47 Speaker 4: like that. Okay, okay, uh it's clear image. Okay, So

2:36:54 Speaker 4: this one's funky because it's in white, right you know what,

2:37:03 Speaker 4: disc with bulbous with the tail going upwards just just

2:37:09 Speaker 4: kind of funky. And here we have the same kind

2:37:13 Speaker 4: of thing, but in white. These are all this is

2:37:17 Speaker 4: a raw image right here. You could download this from

2:37:20 Speaker 4: NASA's website today. We provide all the source rls. You

2:37:24 Speaker 4: zoom up on it. What do we see? Disc shape

2:37:27 Speaker 4: with a bulbous midsection. I don't know why it's white

2:37:30 Speaker 4: and not black like the other ones. I don't know.

2:37:32 Speaker 4: But see what NASA calls this. They'll say that NASA

2:37:35 Speaker 4: will say this is a cosmic ray burst. Have you

2:37:37 Speaker 4: heard that before.

2:37:40 Speaker 2: H yeah, but only only in the context of like

2:37:47 Speaker 2: like from the like in the sun in the I've

2:37:51 Speaker 2: never heard it used outside of that, like I didn't

2:37:55 Speaker 2: know was something that happened in our atmosphere.

2:37:57 Speaker 4: Well, okay, what a cosmic ray burst? This is a

2:38:01 Speaker 4: cosmic ray burst. Can you see it?

2:38:03 Speaker 2: Oh? Oh, okay, So it streaks like in the sky.

2:38:07 Speaker 4: It is a photon of light that was captured from

2:38:10 Speaker 4: the sun in the camera here, and how it renders

2:38:14 Speaker 4: in the CCD as as it's captured by the camera,

2:38:17 Speaker 4: it just renders as this basically one pixel wide streak

2:38:21 Speaker 4: of light.

2:38:22 Speaker 3: Okay, and NASAs.

2:38:28 Speaker 4: There's an astronaut, Donald Pettitt, who just so happens to

2:38:31 Speaker 4: be a photographer. He photographs these things in outer space

2:38:34 Speaker 4: all the time and he documents them, and they just

2:38:37 Speaker 4: are thin streaks of light, and that's it. A thin

2:38:41 Speaker 4: streak of light is not any of this stuff. These

2:38:45 Speaker 4: are not thin streaks of light. So to say it's

2:38:47 Speaker 4: a cosmic ray burst is nonsense.

2:38:51 Speaker 2: Even if it's long exposure, it would be in just

2:38:54 Speaker 2: a longer line. It wouldn't have any bulbous right, it

2:39:01 Speaker 2: would just be a longer streight line because it's again

2:39:04 Speaker 2: long explode long exposure. You know, it's just going to

2:39:09 Speaker 2: extend that that photon beam into a longer beam. This

2:39:14 Speaker 2: has definition, this has shape to a degree that I

2:39:20 Speaker 2: just I don't buy. I don't buy that answer.

2:39:25 Speaker 4: So here's Donald Pettitt. He's an astronaut and he tweets

2:39:30 Speaker 4: the stuff from time to time. He's real specific about

2:39:32 Speaker 4: what cameras he's using. Look, this is a cosmic what

2:39:35 Speaker 4: he is saying. It's hard to see here. This is

2:39:38 Speaker 4: a meteor streak and this thing. Can you see this

2:39:41 Speaker 4: really thin streak here? Yeah, that's a cosmic ray. He

2:39:47 Speaker 4: photographs these things. Here, here's a better image of it. Okay,

2:39:52 Speaker 4: you can see it's going through the red, green, and

2:39:54 Speaker 4: blue CCDs of the camera. Okay, that is what a

2:39:58 Speaker 4: cosmic ray is. That doesn't look like anything that I

2:40:02 Speaker 4: just showed you. No, not even when they say it's

2:40:04 Speaker 4: cosmic ray.

2:40:05 Speaker 3: That's nonsense.

2:40:06 Speaker 4: But people don't know because they don't know what a

2:40:08 Speaker 4: cosmic race was to look like. So they just accept

2:40:10 Speaker 4: NASA's explanation.

2:40:11 Speaker 2: And again, you guys, see this long exposure, the lines

2:40:15 Speaker 2: that it creates on everything else that you we would

2:40:20 Speaker 2: see that in the photos of Mars as well, if

2:40:23 Speaker 2: if if, if it was again, and I'm just kind

2:40:27 Speaker 2: of this is like technical stuff, but like I'm sorry,

2:40:31 Speaker 2: that doesn't that that that doesn't hold water, that doesn't

2:40:35 Speaker 2: hold weight, that these are cosmic rays. Yeah, I think, wow, wow.

2:40:46 Speaker 3: I do have one more for you.

2:40:48 Speaker 2: I mean, and just while you skip to that next one,

2:40:52 Speaker 2: like you know, uh, you know these remote viewers they're

2:40:58 Speaker 2: talking about that there are these beings that that are

2:41:03 Speaker 2: still there on Mars and or were there on Mars.

2:41:07 Speaker 2: And you know, if UFOs and if we are to

2:41:11 Speaker 2: believe that they're coming to Earth, I would have to

2:41:16 Speaker 2: assume that they're gonna have wave stations to whatever degree

2:41:21 Speaker 2: that that would mean for an alien civilization or interdimensional civilization.

2:41:27 Speaker 2: But we see the same architecture, the same structures in

2:41:30 Speaker 2: the in the moon, in Mars and on Earth. Is

2:41:34 Speaker 2: it a coincidence?

2:41:35 Speaker 1: No?

2:41:41 Speaker 3: Okay? Ty? Can you see this here? All right? It

2:41:46 Speaker 3: says dead pixels don't move? Do you see that?

2:41:48 Speaker 2: Ye?

2:41:48 Speaker 3: Let's do viewing slide show presenter. Okay, can I make

2:41:56 Speaker 3: maximize this all right? Can you see that maximize screen?

2:41:59 Speaker 3: Now here we go?

2:42:00 Speaker 4: Yep, all right, So here the source you rls for

2:42:05 Speaker 4: the series of images. What we have here, ty is uh,

2:42:09 Speaker 4: we have motion in this series of images. Now it's

2:42:12 Speaker 4: hard to see. You see this little dot right there?

2:42:18 Speaker 4: Can you see that dot? I Okay, it's not much.

2:42:23 Speaker 3: But that's what a dead pixel would look like.

2:42:29 Speaker 4: Okay, it's just a pixel, right, But twelve seconds later

2:42:34 Speaker 4: after this shot was taken, that pixel is no longer

2:42:37 Speaker 4: there because it's over here.

2:42:41 Speaker 3: Huh.

2:42:42 Speaker 4: Okay, not so much of a big deal. It's just

2:42:44 Speaker 4: a little tiny pixel, big deal. But then twelve seconds

2:42:48 Speaker 4: that twelve seconds after this shot was taken, that shot

2:42:52 Speaker 4: was taken.

2:43:01 Speaker 3: Dead pixels don't move. Oh my god, it's hard.

2:43:12 Speaker 2: It's like laugh about this point, right, Really, I don't

2:43:21 Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of that, dude. I mean,

2:43:26 Speaker 2: you've you've convinced me.

2:43:27 Speaker 4: That Mars has some strange stuff going on there, and like, look,

2:43:31 Speaker 4: we don't have time to get into the rest of it.

2:43:33 Speaker 3: But I've got a whole too.

2:43:39 Speaker 4: We've we've got fossils, and we've got artifacts, and we've

2:43:42 Speaker 4: got ruins.

2:43:44 Speaker 2: Which I I want to ask you one thing. Every

2:43:52 Speaker 2: major you know, ancient culture, from the Egyptians to the Maya,

2:44:00 Speaker 2: you know, they were completely kind of like, yeah, I

2:44:04 Speaker 2: guess we can use the word obsessed with Mars. They

2:44:07 Speaker 2: often associate it with you know, warfare or destruction, even creation.

2:44:12 Speaker 2: I think at some points, what do you think of

2:44:17 Speaker 2: our anset? Like did our ancestors simply look at that

2:44:21 Speaker 2: red dot in the sky and make something up? Or

2:44:27 Speaker 2: do you think that they were inheriting firsthand knowledge of

2:44:33 Speaker 2: something else.

2:44:37 Speaker 3: I think it's a combination of two things.

2:44:39 Speaker 4: And I'll admit that I am not deeply knowledgeable about

2:44:44 Speaker 4: either one of these, but I know enough just to

2:44:47 Speaker 4: give the one on one version.

2:44:49 Speaker 3: Yes, we have this deep history, these stories that have

2:44:53 Speaker 3: been passed down.

2:44:55 Speaker 4: From ancient times, some would say mythological stories and such

2:45:01 Speaker 4: that do talk about humanity starting on Mars and coming

2:45:07 Speaker 4: to Earth. So there's that aspect of it, which you know,

2:45:11 Speaker 4: requires a different field of study to really interpret correctly.

2:45:17 Speaker 3: But I want.

2:45:18 Speaker 4: To call attention to something else, more nuts and bolts.

2:45:24 Speaker 4: There is sufficient evidence to suggest that our solar system

2:45:33 Speaker 4: in the ancient past was not always in the stable.

2:45:42 Speaker 3: Positioning that it is right now.

2:45:44 Speaker 4: In other words, the planets and their orbits right now

2:45:48 Speaker 4: were not always where they were, and there that scar

2:45:53 Speaker 4: on Mars that you were talking about.

2:45:56 Speaker 3: Okay, that is.

2:46:00 Speaker 4: We'll have to get into this later, but that is

2:46:03 Speaker 4: an electrical discharge scar and it either happened by the

2:46:09 Speaker 4: Sun having a bad day and taking it out on

2:46:12 Speaker 4: Mars like a roar borealis on steroids sort of thing,

2:46:18 Speaker 4: or two planets came in close enough proximity to one

2:46:23 Speaker 4: another that had opposing charge magnetic charges electrical charge, and

2:46:31 Speaker 4: if they get too close together, they would discharge between

2:46:35 Speaker 4: the two. Sort of like your high school science teacher

2:46:38 Speaker 4: showing you what electrical discharge looks like with a Vandergraft generator,

2:46:42 Speaker 4: those two big electrical balls with a little tiny spark

2:46:48 Speaker 4: going between the two of them. Okay, it's it's the difference,

2:46:51 Speaker 4: you know, the electrical difference between your hand and the

2:46:55 Speaker 4: doorknob and the winter time when you get a shock

2:46:57 Speaker 4: on the door handle when you're when you open up

2:46:59 Speaker 4: the door, with the difference in the sky and the ground,

2:47:03 Speaker 4: which is why we have lightning discharge. We'll imagine if

2:47:06 Speaker 4: two opposing planetary bodies of different charges came close enough

2:47:10 Speaker 4: in contact with a discharge between the two and the thunderbolts.

2:47:15 Speaker 4: Channel does a lot of work on talking about the

2:47:18 Speaker 4: ancient history of our Solar System and how what they

2:47:20 Speaker 4: saw in the sky was the planets physically being closer

2:47:25 Speaker 4: to Earth, not really requiring you to have a telescope

2:47:29 Speaker 4: to see them. They were more visible, like our moon

2:47:32 Speaker 4: was visible, and our moon is visible to us right now.

2:47:36 Speaker 4: The early Solar system was a lot more unstable and chaotic,

2:47:40 Speaker 4: and planets were moving. So I don't have a whole

2:47:44 Speaker 4: lot more information, but there is sufficient evidence to suggest

2:47:47 Speaker 4: that that was the case, and that what they saw

2:47:51 Speaker 4: as Mars attacking somebody was a discharge between Mars and

2:47:56 Speaker 4: another planetary body that was happening to go by.

2:48:00 Speaker 2: And and one of those planets could have been the

2:48:03 Speaker 2: one that it ends up coming in contact with, like

2:48:08 Speaker 2: fully cut hitting it, and that, you know, that is

2:48:13 Speaker 2: what creates the asteroid belt, and that that that impact

2:48:19 Speaker 2: also throws the planet, the every you know, all the

2:48:23 Speaker 2: planets into a new, maybe more stable orbit, and that's

2:48:30 Speaker 2: where we find ourselves today. That impact pushed us all

2:48:35 Speaker 2: a little further out just enough where now you know,

2:48:40 Speaker 2: I'm just you know, thinking out loud here, But you know,

2:48:44 Speaker 2: is that crazy to think about? Am I crazy? I

2:48:48 Speaker 2: don't know?

2:48:48 Speaker 4: Here, Look just here's an image just for those it's

2:48:51 Speaker 4: just easier to look at this.

2:48:53 Speaker 3: Okay, this is what we're talking about.

2:48:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be like the ship that they would say.

2:48:59 Speaker 3: Zoo did the Yes.

2:49:03 Speaker 4: Now, there is actual evidence here tie, which we'll have

2:49:06 Speaker 4: to say for another time that reproduces that same scar

2:49:10 Speaker 4: that you see on Mars. They've reproduced that same exact

2:49:13 Speaker 4: morphology in the laboratory using plasma discharge. Yeah, believe it

2:49:19 Speaker 4: or not, that same scar we Earth has one.

2:49:25 Speaker 2: Oh oh wow.

2:49:28 Speaker 4: The exact same morphology. I'll have to we'll have to

2:49:30 Speaker 4: save that for part two.

2:49:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, part two in person, Jesus Christ, that would be

2:49:37 Speaker 2: a scary fucking sight though.

2:49:39 Speaker 3: I know.

2:49:40 Speaker 4: And there's so either Mars discharged with Earth or discharged

2:49:44 Speaker 4: with Venus. There's lots of evidence suggests Venus wasn't exactly

2:49:49 Speaker 4: where it was, so anyway.

2:49:52 Speaker 2: Is haunting haunting? Haunting thought? Yeah, oh gosh.

2:50:00 Speaker 3: Imagine being on the planet when that happened.

2:50:04 Speaker 2: Right, No, just kill me.

2:50:07 Speaker 4: And remember what does every single Mars rover photograph have

2:50:11 Speaker 4: in common?

2:50:12 Speaker 3: What does it show you? What do you what do

2:50:15 Speaker 3: you see in Mars river photographs.

2:50:17 Speaker 4: All over the place, just shards of rock, rocks just

2:50:22 Speaker 4: freaking everywhere. Okay, that scar on Mars is a giant

2:50:27 Speaker 4: canyon the size of the United States. What we're talking about,

2:50:31 Speaker 4: tie is instantaneous excavation of crustal material three thousand miles long.

2:50:38 Speaker 3: Where did it go? Everywhere else on the planet? Is

2:50:42 Speaker 3: what is Mars? Covered with craters everywhere?

2:50:45 Speaker 2: Right?

2:50:46 Speaker 3: That was a bad day on Mars.

2:50:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it could have kicked up a lot of

2:50:52 Speaker 2: the rusty dust that well. No, I guess it depends

2:51:00 Speaker 2: when it happens. But I was gonna say, never mind,

2:51:02 Speaker 2: I've never mind. But yeah, that that tracks, man, that's

2:51:06 Speaker 2: that's Oh god, that would have been a terrible day.

2:51:11 Speaker 2: That would have been a terrible day. I know.

2:51:12 Speaker 3: Man, Mars has me hooked. Dude. There's just so much

2:51:16 Speaker 3: cool stuff about it. You think that's it?

2:51:23 Speaker 4: Uh, you know, I'd I'd have to get I don't

2:51:28 Speaker 4: know that.

2:51:29 Speaker 2: That might be paradolia. I could see that being paradolia.

2:51:33 Speaker 4: I try to stay away from the rocks that look

2:51:35 Speaker 4: like faces, because we already have enough problems with the paradolia.

2:51:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, too too much, too much leeway there.

2:51:44 Speaker 4: I suppose if I knew the source, I could get

2:51:47 Speaker 4: Jeanne to upscale that and see what it looked like.

2:51:49 Speaker 4: But you know, I don't. I don't really try to

2:51:51 Speaker 4: like entertain those sorts of things.

2:51:53 Speaker 2: Love it. Thank you, dude, Thank you so much for

2:51:57 Speaker 2: doing this again. I'd love to do art to maybe

2:52:01 Speaker 2: bring you up to Boston or down to Boston and

2:52:06 Speaker 2: you know, be able to do it in studio. Where

2:52:09 Speaker 2: can people find you and where can people keep up

2:52:12 Speaker 2: to work with your date? Where can they watch the

2:52:14 Speaker 2: documentary Blue Planet Red? You know hit me with it?

2:52:19 Speaker 3: Yeah? Well sure, oh let me let me. Can I

2:52:22 Speaker 3: show the movie poster?

2:52:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, let me show the movie post and

2:52:25 Speaker 4: I'll talk about it here. I really am happy with this,

2:52:29 Speaker 4: the way this came out, the artist who did it

2:52:31 Speaker 4: for me. Here's the movie poster. You can find all

2:52:36 Speaker 4: of my work on the website blue Planet Red dot net.

2:52:40 Speaker 4: I'm on YouTube at Brian Coreydobbs on Twitter at Brian

2:52:44 Speaker 4: Corey Dobbs. The documentary Proper, It's a two hour documentary

2:52:48 Speaker 4: talks about all of this stuff. I interview two dozen

2:52:52 Speaker 4: people from academia to aerospace industry to NASA. I got

2:52:56 Speaker 4: a retired NASA astrobiologist who talks a lot about pennspermia

2:53:00 Speaker 4: and microfossils. We've got micro fossils photographed in the documentary.

2:53:06 Speaker 4: Independent researchers Abby Low, Robert Shock, John Brandenberg, Mark Carlotto

2:53:10 Speaker 4: and a bunch of other cool guys in the documentary.

2:53:13 Speaker 4: You can find it on Amazon Prime. There are also

2:53:17 Speaker 4: other streaming networks. You can get it on your cable box.

2:53:23 Speaker 4: Verizon Exfinity Spectrum. You can pull it up on video

2:53:28 Speaker 4: on demand there, as well as Documentary Plus and a

2:53:31 Speaker 4: few other international streaming networks. You can go and watch

2:53:35 Speaker 4: it there, but I usually just say it's on Amazon.

2:53:39 Speaker 4: It's on Amazon UK as well, but not all territories.

2:53:41 Speaker 4: So anyway, So but watch the documentary first, because then

2:53:48 Speaker 4: the YouTube is really the continuing series of the documentary.

2:53:53 Speaker 4: The documentary was what started it all off, and then

2:53:56 Speaker 4: the YouTube I go into more detail and you know,

2:54:00 Speaker 4: new discoveries, things I've learned since making the documentary.

2:54:06 Speaker 2: That is awesome, man, And I really love that. You

2:54:11 Speaker 2: do great work and I can't wait to, you know,

2:54:15 Speaker 2: have you back on and and dive even further into mars.

2:54:19 Speaker 2: I mean, we just did three hours and uh we

2:54:23 Speaker 2: That's what I love because I can I like to

2:54:26 Speaker 2: jump down and uh, I always leave room for more. Uh. So, yeah,

2:54:31 Speaker 2: I can't wait to have you back. Brother. Uh I was.

2:54:34 Speaker 2: I will admit I was a little bit more high

2:54:36 Speaker 2: energy than I thought I was gonna be, because yeah,

2:54:40 Speaker 2: I got really into this. Actually, and again I'm not

2:54:45 Speaker 2: feeling well. It took some take will so sorry if

2:54:48 Speaker 2: I annoyed anybody, But uh, this that ship blew my mind. Man,

2:54:52 Speaker 2: that shit this has been I'm surprised that this isn't

2:54:56 Speaker 2: being talked about more. And it's a shame that it isn't.

2:54:59 Speaker 2: It kind of show that the public awareness, the lack

2:55:03 Speaker 2: of public awareness is a huge problem. There's so many

2:55:07 Speaker 2: distractions in the world. There's so many you know, materialistic

2:55:13 Speaker 2: behaviors that have been created through you know, the the

2:55:20 Speaker 2: this this reality that we've we've we've created. Uh And

2:55:25 Speaker 2: you know, I feel like there's what our ancestors, at

2:55:28 Speaker 2: least at least had over us, was their connection with

2:55:34 Speaker 2: the celestial surroundings, with the earth itself. So you know,

2:55:41 Speaker 2: we'd love to have more conversation with your brother. Keep

2:55:45 Speaker 2: keep up the great work to everyone listening to everyone watching, Uh,

2:55:49 Speaker 2: thank you so much. You guys are the reasons we

2:55:50 Speaker 2: can keep this show on the road. We do. We're

2:55:56 Speaker 2: trying to do a lot more in studio episodes. Uh.

2:55:58 Speaker 2: This one, obviously, uh is remote. We're doing this hybrid

2:56:03 Speaker 2: for the time being, but representative from the UAP Task Force.

2:56:10 Speaker 2: He took direction from Jay Stratton. Lenvol Logan will be

2:56:14 Speaker 2: in studio uh this week coming up. So that's gonna

2:56:19 Speaker 2: be a really great episode. We're gonna be diving deep

2:56:21 Speaker 2: into so you know, just just so much stuff with

2:56:26 Speaker 2: what he's been working on and you know, whistleblower protections

2:56:30 Speaker 2: and get this really like you know, you know, analytical

2:56:38 Speaker 2: side of things and and what the UAP Task Force does,

2:56:42 Speaker 2: what a government organization uh looks like when they are

2:56:46 Speaker 2: investigating the phenomena, what is the logistics? All of that

2:56:50 Speaker 2: will be diving deep into super fun uh. And then

2:56:53 Speaker 2: we have a bunch of episodes coming up, actually one

2:56:55 Speaker 2: with a remote viewer, Angela Uh Angela Ford, you probably

2:56:59 Speaker 2: know her. Yeah. So yeah, anyway, Uh, stay humble, stay kind,

2:57:04 Speaker 2: stay vigilant. We'll see you on the uh the other side.

2:57:11 Speaker 2: As they say, you know, what's weird the the screen

2:57:20 Speaker 2: right right as I was, because when you hit end stream,

2:57:24 Speaker 2: it plays the music when I clicked it the whole screen.

2:57:31 Speaker 2: Uh oh, it's just a glitch show. But anyway, yeah

2:57:35 Speaker 2: uh again, Something's like I feel like something's messing with

2:57:38 Speaker 2: me lately, just like technically, yeah, something's just messing with

2:57:43 Speaker 2: my Like it's like I'm gonna mess this up for

2:57:45 Speaker 2: you hah. But either that or I'm just finding a

2:57:49 Speaker 2: way to make an excuse to prolong it. All right now,

2:57:54 Speaker 2: we'll see you guys next time, and

2:58:00 Speaker 4: Everything everybody underta