Former Dept. Of Defense Official Lives "Double Life," While Having Contact With ExtraTerrestrial Beings

0:16 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to Total Disclosure across all platforms, where we explore the mysteries of the unknown, from citings, conspiracy theories, we dive deep into the unexplained occurrences in our skies and on the ground. And if you're intrigued about the possibility of extraterrestrial life being here and in the cosmos, then you're in the right place. Today we have a really, really, really fun guest with a huge insight into the military industrial complex, which is something I really am fascinated here with and that's why I have the people I have on Nancy Times is x DoD official, and we're going to bring her in and welcome her to this whole little disclosure for the first time.

1:06 Speaker 1: Thank you, Nancy. I probably butchered your last name just because you said it to me like three times, and that's how I do it.

1:13 Speaker 2: Yes, that's okay, Tim, that's okay. Yes, thank you for having me. I'm very happy to be here. You know, this is along awaited event, and you know, I think it's just the beginning of it. I don't know how long it's going to take, but we have to be in this for the long haul regardless, and it's important every little bit of information, every person that we can touch and also motivate to get involved is very important because we all need good information. We've got plenty of misinformation out here, so it's good that we get people out to tell the truth, you know, and just spread the word and let people know that they are a part of this because in my opinion, humanity is the disclosure and that's because we're going through an evolutionary phase of waking up and going through an ascension, and I think we're finally understanding who we truly are.

2:16 Speaker 2: And by the time we get to the end of this ascension and evolutionary phase, it won't matter whether the government tells us or not. They've told us enough already in my opinion, but the world wants more, of course. But if there's enough evidence out there with doesn't take a lot of intelligence to understand that they've told us enough, and we have to do a little homework ourselves. And the way I understand it is humanity waking up and finally becoming more intelligent and more conscious about these things, more aware, and our ability to see more things in the sky will increase, and that's going to answer a lot of the questions take a lot of it off the government.

3:02 Speaker 1: Well that you know, it's kind of weird. You mentioned that it's almost synchronicity. Uh. Yeah, it is a synchronicity because I you know, recently, especially recently with the geopolitical landscape, things being tense, and you know, a huge, a huge I can't even stress the fact of the monumental election that is that is uh in upcoming uh in the upcoming months is you know, it's going to shape the way we we the world, which way we go. And and I think that even though disclosure in UFOs and and and the et agenda wasn't brought up and say the debates or hasn't been a main focus of any of the parties, that's not to say that behind closes stores it isn't, because I think it absolutely is and it has to be.

4:07 Speaker 1: You've been what I what I didn't say in your intro is you've also had a lifelong contact experience, so you not only are you an ex do O D official, but you've also had a lifelong experience with some sort of non human intelligence. And I really want to get into that, and and of course you know we'll get into you know, time for disclosure and what you're doing and all that, all the great stuff you're doing now, but I want to really get a look into Nancy. Tim's the person who is the experiencer. Now, maybe start from the beginning for anyone who doesn't know you.

4:54 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm a lifelong contact day with interdimensional beings and extraterrestrials. Not only am I a experience or contact tea, but I'm also in the extraterrestrial realm. I am a representative of Earth. I am a person that they have been with all my life. I'm sixty four years old now and this has been going on. My first conscious memories are at two or three, and they have been with me and followed me throughout my life with physical contact. And when I say that, I mean like holding hands, touching skin, embracing each other, face to face conversations.

5:38 Speaker 2: So not only do they have they watched me and prepared me for this day to get me to be to where I am today, to be able to speak to people, but they also have a pretty good idea of what it's like to be a human being through my eyes and through other people's eyes like me that have done the same thing. So what I have found out through the process of just having my visitations, and I learned how to have more conscious time with them because I found out very quickly throughout the years that because of them being telepathic, they whatever we feel, they feel tenfold the amount and feelings of anxiety and fear, sadness, any of these type feelings.

6:27 Speaker 2: In their reality, they do not experience this. So when they sense this and feel this from us, this is not something they enjoy. They don't know what to do with it. They don't like it, to be honest with you, they just don't like it. So they will either consciously tap you out or do it or touch your head and put you in a non emotional state, and that way you can fully go through the experience. But the only problem with that is you lose all the motions, but you can still function and go through it.

7:02 Speaker 2: But when you come back, this is where people talk about having missing time or fragmented memories because they really just don't like being around all this fear and all this stuff, so they just tap you right out. And so a lot of times, even with me, I can remember after the experience coming back conscious while walking to the bed and them holding me getting me put in the bed, and it's like, wow, what did I miss? And that's what I missed was the part where I was so afraid and because of me being so afraid, they blacked me out.

7:40 Speaker 1: So do you think that so you think that that is what is the problem. They're experiencing our anxieties on a personal level, and they've evolved past that kind of that kind.

8:02 Speaker 2: Of in their reality. There is no wars, there is no negativity. They've showed me what we're doing. We're going up a DNA ladder. They are a billion years ahead of us in evolution. They've been through the ladder and they've seen other species beings go through this same process. This is not their first rodeo.

8:23 Speaker 1: When it comes to an ascension.

8:26 Speaker 2: Ascension and evolution and all this kind of stuff, And they basically have been waiting for us to reach this point. And we're at the peak point right now. We're at the peak point. Not only are we ascending and leaving kind of the three drim, we're accelerating and move it up into the fourth or fifth. So and as that happens, these are not physical places that were going they are higher levels of consciousness. So that's yes, so our wearness, our standing will be better.

9:00 Speaker 1: The internet kind of. That's what people don't understand sometimes about doing virtual interviews is sometimes the Internet will affect uh and and it'll make you overlap each other. But what I was gonna say is I've had this theory and you kind of said it without saying it, is that they've it's they've almost evolved past and in order to get to this place of of evolution or or ascension, that that is required you need to leave behind things like war conflict, because those things, I mean, they're just so destructive in their nature.

9:46 Speaker 1: I mean, look at we literally our look at our technology. Our technology is almost a representation of humanity. It's combustible engines, it's it's it's explosion control, the explosions and fire, and it's just very primitive and chaotic. But when we think of these higher beings or these UFOs or whatever, we think of just blissful peace. And that's a common theme among experiencers is when they're with them, is this common this very peaceful environment.

10:28 Speaker 2: Exactly that they the way that they see us, we are one and we are all connected, and that includes not only us with our planet Earth, and we need to recognize the fact that our planet is a living conscious being. All of the creatures on our planet are living conscious beings. So our planet and all living conscious beings plants, trees, water, air, et cetera. They have all been sitting around waiting for human beings to catch up, understand our connections, recognize our appreciation for them and our existence because we were all put here to support each other.

11:09 Speaker 2: And not only that, but that extends out into the cosmic realm, our connection with the universe and with extra threastals and interdimensionals, because we are all one and we are all connected. And whatever we do on this planet, especially misused in our environment, you know, plan with nuclear technology and stuff, whatever we do, it not only could wipe us out in our planet Earth that's beautiful and all living things on it, including innocent bystanders, indigenous people, wells, griefs, et cetera, but it also would ripple into the universe and affect them.

11:49 Speaker 2: And they're not going to let us do that because we think we're the top dogs and we're all that Earth is all about us. But there's a lot of things that are alive conscious beings on this planet that are just as.

12:02 Speaker 1: Important as we are, if not more.

12:06 Speaker 2: Exactly, so we're going through we have to go through this process of evolution in order to maintain our species. It's almost, yes, it's inevitable. It's almost happening.

12:20 Speaker 1: It's almost like we're we're we're a we're a teenage boy and we think we're a man, right, And it's not till you get smacked around by someone a little stronger that you realize your that's not okay, that's not how the world works, right, and.

12:44 Speaker 2: The universe, you know, we've got to cooperate with the universe. You know, it's not just our little planet, because our planet is not very happy with us.

12:53 Speaker 1: No, so you know, And isn't it funny that because we talk about the Earth like as as as a as a a place, but no, it's a it's a thing in itself. It's a it's a it's it's a reason that our ancestors, you know, have names for it like you know Gaya and and because it is, it's the life giver. It is, it gave us the place. And you know, people religious, you know, I I don't know about where your religious right but I think we are we are very blind when we are overly religious because we it's it's ingrained into us into these religious view views that we are the top, that we are to be held in this regard, and that we we that we are it and that's not the case.

13:51 Speaker 1: And can you can you bring me back to at least your first conscious experience with these beings? And why why did they lead you on the path because you ended up in the department of defense. That's a that's a that's a that's a that seems like a deliberate thing.

14:14 Speaker 2: So was everything in my life they have instigated and open doors and avenues. It's just like me sitting here right here with you. These things are They knew long before I was ever born that all this was going to happen here on earth. So what happened was when I was thirty years old, I witnessed my two sons being taken for their first time. And these were different beings that came for them that that normally come for me. So when they did, they I have the ability I know when they're going to manifest in the room with me.

14:59 Speaker 2: My freak see changes and for me, it's not what they look like. It is the frequency exchange between a human being and an extraterrestrial or inter dimensional We are at a very low frequency and they are at a much higher frequency. And what you feel when you're face to face with them is incredible. It's between a before it high, an extreme fear, all bought up in one and your brain does not know what to do with this, you know, It's like whoa, because there's nothing like that else in the world. So that's why most people just bam fear, and once fear sets in, they don't remember really anything else other than that.

15:46 Speaker 2: But the brain will try to fill in those missing gaps and pieces, and it's with the programming that they've received in their life, you know. And it's like you said, from the minute we are born, we are programmed to think, to live and think a certain way. And so now we're at this point in time where we have to realize that we need new ways of thinking, new ways of living. Our world is changing. Earth is going through an extension herself. Our world is changing. We are changing and are old ways, these old programming ways no longer serve humanity.

16:31 Speaker 2: Wars are of no service to humanity. Negativity is of no service to humanity. So as we go up our DNA letter, just like the extraterrestrials and other races and beings have done throughout universes different universes, these negative aspects of their of their species falls off because it just simply doesn't serve and they learn to come together as one in unity and work together. And that's what they're looking for us to do, is finally come together as one. And the problem has always been that dark forces have kept humanity separated for eons.

17:17 Speaker 2: And this goes way way back in history. You know, separation of languages, separation of religions, you know, separation. Yes, everything was done to keep humanity apart. These elites and people always knew that when we reach this point and if we ever all come together as one, we're unstoppable.

17:44 Speaker 1: There's no there's no going.

17:46 Speaker 2: Backwards, you know, once you start getting into the reach and higher frequencies and.

17:52 Speaker 1: What's going to happen? Yeah, and it really does.

17:59 Speaker 2: When you start raising your frequency. You can feel it to me. You know how people that run great distance and they say they get that a drilling rust. This is kind of like that, that unbelievable thing. It's like your body reward you for good behavior. So you continue on that cycle and you eventually train yourself into seeing beautiful positive thoughts rather than having the program negative thoughts. And what I would do is when I first would you know, naturally get these negative thoughts, I'd replace it with too positive.

18:33 Speaker 2: And so you basically we have to work within We individually have to work on ourselves figure out who we are. For me, I am not the Nacy Tams that the world around me created. I am the Nancy Tams that came here. I found my soul self, my inner self, the one that came here with a purpose. I didn't come here to play the programmed game. I came here. I came here to educate people and end the game. It is time for humanity to start enjoin the human experience. Whether we remember it or not, we all made a choice to come to Earth and be a part of this, and we all chose to be here now, and we're all a part of this evolutionary phase that we're going through.

19:21 Speaker 2: And that's why I like to say we are the disclosure. Human beings are the disclosure. We are waking up, reaching higher levels of consciousness and we're going to use our intelligence in different ways. We're going to learn to do things that help all of humanity, not just let these elites be in control and manipulate us. And they've showed me how we can use AI because they just look at it. They told me AI is a man made tool. We keep it as a man made tool. We do not let certain fractions of government or elites only control that it was made and intended for humanity.

19:59 Speaker 2: There's ways that we can use it to better our lives. And it will not take away jobs. It will create new jobs. And it will also show us how we can work less hours and not focus so much on all of the material things, but learn to have more time with family.

20:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, it'll it'll take away it'll as I see it, artificial intelligence, I don't see as a bad thing even use. Right, it does depend on it is depending on how it's used and how it's developed. Right, You're you're absolutely right. It needs to be something that's open sourced. But you could say that about everything you know, Uh, open source alternative energy. Uh that that that that will be the key to unlocking the end of war in the end. So do you think I mean do you do you David Gush talks about how we're we're we've already solved that problem.

21:08 Speaker 1: Basically, if we're reverse engineering UFOs and we're we have that technology hidden in the military industrial complex,

21:18 Speaker 1: you know what, why what what's stopping it from from from coming out on the battle or I.

21:26 Speaker 2: Don't think we can't. I don't think we can reverse their technology. And I'll tell you why. Their craft are living conscious beings. They have a consciousness, and so their pilots are designed their DNA. They are created to be the pilot. They are bonded with that craft. Nobody else can fly it because they are bonded. So the pilot gets in he or she and thinks destination where they want to go, and their consciousness link up and bam they go. They don't use fuels and propulsion and things like that, and and their technology like for example, I'll give you example.

22:09 Speaker 2: You and I are talking on technology. I'm on the laptop of your own your computer or whatever. But our technology is a separate entity that we carry around with us. Okay, your their reality and their reality. Their consciousness is their technology, and they can manifest whatever they want with their higher consciousness. And they travel that way too.

22:37 Speaker 1: So what are these? I had Danny Shean on the podcast, and obviously you know who he is. He's a renowned, renowned Harvard attorney. He had mentioned that he knows of five different alien civilizations visiting Earth. Do you agree with that number?

22:59 Speaker 2: Well, I'd say there's more than that. Where I go is to a mothership, and there's the inner dimensional.

23:06 Speaker 1: Where you go, yesifically, yes.

23:09 Speaker 2: I go to a mothership. I'm on a mothership, and there are many different races and they're all working towards assisting and helping humanity. Okay, so the inner dimensionals are seven to eight foot tall, they're luminescent, they have a few humanistic look but they are not human. They are more like what people in the Bible days would call the shiny ones. Okay, the kind of like that, kind of like that. Okay, Yeah, and so then there's the tall grays. There's different grays. I've met reptilians, I've met aquatic beings.

23:47 Speaker 2: I've met I call them humanoid looking beings. I don't ask them what are you? Because in that reality, they do not use names or labels. Everyone's frequency is their signature and That's how they find me wherever I am is through my frequency. I've lived in Australia, I've lived in Hawaii, i live in Mississippi. Now wherever I go, wherever I live, they find me through my frequency. And that's how I communicate with them, is through my consciousness and my frequency.

24:19 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is we all have a what you would say is a cosmic signature. Yes, whatever is our resident frequency, it.

24:32 Speaker 2: Has the signature to it. But we can raise that frequency. We can raise it to a higher vibrational state, which gets us up closer to where they are. And that's what's happening. This is part of our evolution. We are the human species is escalating up into higher frequency and that is going to make us not only more aware and see more, but it makes us a little more compatible with them to.

25:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, so what is just why? Okay, we all say, you know, or we're all waiting for the day that the phoenix lights happens. But it's in broad daylight, it's over Washington, d C. And aliens come down and you know, and introduce themselves with the handshake. Why are why is why isn't that happening? Because is abduction happening.

25:32 Speaker 2: The first question because humans try to humanize everything. They are not human. Just because we do things certain way and we have our precition, uh, our mannerism or whatever, that does not apply to them. They are who they are. We are who we are, and we have got to stop trying to humanize everything, trying to name and label and all these things, because in their reality, they do not individualize, you know. They are all one. They are all connected, so and that's the way they see us. And they are not here to put on a performance.

26:12 Speaker 2: They are not here to show off. So that's another reason too, because they've manifested themselves in the craft to me, and I would never just stop the car and go take pictures or anything because I know through my connections with them that was for me, that was not for the rest of the world. Because the world needs to do their part on their own work on themselves, and when we all start doing this, then they will open up more to this individually. So they're not going to do a performance, you know.

26:50 Speaker 2: So we have to understand they are a billion years ahead of us in evolution. Our physics does not apply our means of travel, portion fuels et cetera. Our technology, which there is no separate entity for their technology. Their consciousness isn't there. It's all in one, you know, So there is no humanizing anything about them. And I think that's the government knows this, and that's why the secrecy. Yes, it has to be because it would be in their best interest not to expose their bondabilities because they have no control over it and there's nothing they can do about it.

27:34 Speaker 2: So why would the United States let other foreign countries know what we know? Why show our vunderabilities when really it's not a threat to us, but the fact that one country much in other words, one country doesn't want to show its vulnderabilities to other countries and also to people, because who do we look to to protect us and save us from everything? Our government?

28:05 Speaker 1: Right, it's a quick pro quo between the civilians and the government is I'll pay taxes, you protect us exactly. That is it if you can't protect us, if that's what I mean. And I was hoping you get you'd say.

28:21 Speaker 2: But like, think about this too, think about this, okay, So if they know what I know that we're going through an evolution okay. And people's awareness, which means we will have more than just the five sentence to understand the world around us. And I'm not saying this is going to happen overnight. It has to happen in a slow, beautiful, divine way, just like in our creation. Otherwise it would overload our brains. We wouldn't be able to handle it.

28:50 Speaker 1: But so almost almost like a butterfly, yes, I mean a caterpillar needing to struggle in the concuons.

28:57 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, exactly, they can't.

28:58 Speaker 1: Just if you rip up the cocoon early, you'll actually kill a butterfly.

29:04 Speaker 2: Exactly. It's exactly like that. So they're sitting back letting. And this is what the extra tresholds are. Iner benchannels say to me as I go out and speak, and you know, there's lots of times people it just seems impossible to get through them, get through to them. But they always encourage me and say, let evolution do its job. Let it do its job. Continue on your path, stay strong, stick to you know, stick to what you're doing. But the world will start waking up because it's part of our evolution.

29:42 Speaker 2: And I'm sure that's what the government is doing too. If I know this, surely they know this. So they're like, why go out here and say all this stuff and people run around acted retarded and crazy when evolution perhaps is going to help us with this and our intelligence will help us to act more like human beings. Because that's the whole thing, that's the whole key, is for us becoming the human beings we were created to be and getting out of this three D whealm of negative ways in wars, blooming us up into like the caterpillar, blooming us up into our new selves, our new world, our new planet, and our new new human beings with new ways of thinking and living.

30:30 Speaker 1: In your in your time with the government, were you did you have I mean, did you tell anybody?

30:39 Speaker 2: No?

30:40 Speaker 1: Did you get your shut Yes?

30:43 Speaker 2: I did so so basically the way I see that I was the eyes looking at them.

30:53 Speaker 1: So you were like a you were like an alien agent. I believe I know.

30:58 Speaker 2: From well, I don't think I got to it. But when I saw my two children, did I.

31:02 Speaker 1: Tell you, well, you were telling me the story?

31:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well I witnessed my two sons being taken. Okay, so and they were perfectly fine when we all woke up nothing. You know, they didn't remember any of it because they were blacked out. But so I meditated. When I got home from that trip, I meditated and asked them to please explain to me because the fact that this wasn't just about me anymore, you know, this involves my children. I wanted explanations. I was angry, mad, upset, the whole nine yards. And I don't pretend and say that I can call and conjure them.

31:41 Speaker 2: Plus, I would never do that. I have. I considered them family, and I know they're not here to impress, and I'm not here to impress anyone. I don't care what people think, you know. So, but they did come on their time. They came, and the female grade that I'm bonded with, by the way, took me before a group of beings and they presented. They presented me, and they were a group of elders, and these were interdimensionals from different races, representatives. And I asked them why this was happening to me and to my children, What was the purpose?

32:22 Speaker 2: What does it mean? You know? I needed explanations. And they explained to me that before I was born, that I had made an agreement to come to Earth and be part of the evolutionary process and that when I get God get here, I wouldn't remember it, but they would be visiting me throughout my life, preparing me for what we're doing here today. And that's exactly what has happened. And even though at the time, I was shaking my head, you know, because I was Nancy Tims, I was a mother, I was a wife. You know, you didn't I grew up in Tennessee, you know, I live in Mississippi.

33:04 Speaker 2: My goodness, this doesn't make some sense. So I heard what they said, but it didn't connect with me at the time. And they did open up like a blue orb a vision, and I saw myself as an as a interdimensional etheric looking being and walking me through the process of going through and my I actually witnessed myself being born and coming into the earth. And I also, you know, so throughout my life, they would come to me and say things like because it ended up I ended up getting two divorces, fighting over kids, drama, drama, drama, And I would think, this is ridiculous, this, you know, surely this is not what I signed up for.

33:48 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, yeah, you told me I picked this life, Yeah yeah, And I'm like, this is it?

33:57 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, and so but then they would come to me and they would tell me, if it ever gets to be too much, you can always come home. And I'm like, what you know? So, yes, I heard it, I listened. Did it click and connect? No it does not, you know. So long story short. So finally, throughout my life it helped things kept continuing and kept happening. And then finally a little over two years ago, they finally gifted me a condolini awakening because I was getting downloads for them, but I was questioning, questioning, questioning.

34:37 Speaker 2: I can't talk all of a sudden where this information was coming from. So they opened my subconscious up into my human conscious to help me remember, because I was an interdimensional before I came to Earth, and I have made a choice to come here and be a part of this evolutionary process to help humanity understand we are not alone in the universe, and we are beautiful beings and we are here at a very exciting time. We all made this choice and we're here for a reason, and it's because we're in an evolutionary process of becoming the human beings we are created to be.

35:17 Speaker 2: So through that condolining awakening, I was able to piece every single thing in my life, even working for the military. All this was. They pretty much instrumented all these things because I needed to experience these things. This is part of my evolution of being here on this planet. This is part of my experience. This is why I came here. And also my son's as well, especially my oldest son. They gave him a condoline awakening. He has all the same kind of experiences and things that I do and gets the downloads.

35:51 Speaker 2: But now since that, I don't question what the information that they give me. Before I did, and I guess you know they did. I needed up a boost or a bump of the butt, so to speak. So they did that, and it scared me to death. And I think more people will probably experience something like that, and I hope they know him more about it than than I did at the time, because it literally scared me to death.

36:17 Speaker 1: I I was going to ask, you know, as a mother, to know that there's children are a part of this, you know, because you yourself is one thing. Yeah, but thinking about your kids being taken, yeah, you know that could that could be something that's that makes you think you're crazy exactly. But here's where are they about these things?

36:44 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my son was at the symposium with Yeah, you were telling me. Yeah, he's big into all this stuff. And he's the one that sets up the webcam, makes the designs and all this stuff. They are this is our fa this is a life family mission. This is our mission.

37:00 Speaker 1: Do you be willing to talk to me one day? Oh?

37:02 Speaker 2: Absolutely?

37:03 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah.

37:06 Speaker 2: We can do that today if you want. Yeah. But anyway, what I'm saying is that now I've gotten off the track.

37:15 Speaker 1: I got you off, I got I got you off track. But so so it was all really guided for you, right, Oh.

37:24 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah. They instigated everything and put me in the right places, because what is the best way for them to understand what it's like to be a human being? Through my eyes, through my children's eyes. We are the eyes. So not only do we come to you and talk about them, talk about them to humanity, but also we talk to them about humanity. And I have they have given me like blue orbs to take, and I would take and represent and give to the Reptilian race or to different races. And this was earth essence.

38:07 Speaker 2: And what I'm saying is we are valuable We are worth your efforts. We are doing our part. So this is a big deal. It is a big deal, And every day I learn more and more about this and the importance of it and what it all means. But I can tell you this, every single human being on this planet is a part of this. We all chose to be here. We are all part of this. This is not about me. This is not about the United States or any country or anybody in euthology. This is a worldwide phenomena, and this is a worldwide deal.

38:50 Speaker 2: This is all of humanity waking up, figuring out who we truly are, our true origins, our purpose, your own life. We are the generation the world in the universe has been waiting on to make the changes that we need so that we can continue on the human species for decades. Otherwise, if we stay in this rem that we're in and continue with our materialistic, warlike ways, we are going to destroy ourselves or put ourselves in a very detrimental life ahead of us. But we can make these changes. We have the opportunity now, and we can have them to help us, assist us.

39:36 Speaker 2: They're not going to come down here and fix everything. We make, our mistakes we have to fix them. But as we ascend and get ourselves out of this three D rim, I know now, remember what I was going to say to you, But they can help us. The more that we get out of this negative rim, the more that they will be able to help us. And what I was going to finish saying about how I felt about my son's being taken. Sure, the human response is horrible, terrible, abduction, negative, negative, But here's the extraterrestrial perspective coming out of me.

40:14 Speaker 2: Okay, just like I made choices to come here and be on earth, my sons made choices to come here and be on earth. We don't just because there are children. They have soul contracts and make decisions too before they get here. So we have to look, that's the problem with human beings. We think about what's happening right here, right now, and what pleases us up here. They see the big picture. We have to learn to start seeing the big picture and see things from a different perspective. And it's just like they could have come and got my two sons and I would have never known they could have done that, but they wanted me to see it.

40:59 Speaker 2: It served a high purpose. I didn't understand it for say, twenty years, but now I do, and now I understand completely. It all makes sense and it was done for a reason. But at the time twenty years ago or whatever, I didn't understand it, and I thought it was horrible, and I would have said, oh, abduction, blah blah blah, demonic da da da. So that's that's what I'm trying to let the world know. Well, our perceptions has a lot to do with our programming and our level of spiritual growth and understanding of the world around us.

41:34 Speaker 2: But we are now coming to a point to where all of these things are opening up in our levels of intelligence and awareness is changing, and we're going to finally get the answers we want and we won't have to get it from the government. We won't have to get it from anybody. We're going to know within. We're going to learn to look within, remember who our soul selves are. Think about how you know, why did I come here? What is my purpose here? Am I here just to be a game piece? Or am I here to make the world a different place?

42:10 Speaker 2: And that's for humanity to decide individually.

42:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to tell you a story, Okay, now. When I was younger, I had a UFO and experience. But and then that's kind of what led me down this path of intrigue. I've always been the person who asked the existential questions and always wanted to know more about like like, you know, how are we a species that doesn't know our own origin? What happens after death? Are we alone? I've always asked these questions, and I've always you know, But in twenty twenty one, I lost my mother to breast cancer. And I was in the room when she had when she departed, and I I was looking at her.

43:06 Speaker 1: She was there, alive. I looked down at my phone. It started buzzing in my pocket. I remember making the conscious decision it's not worth even grabbing. But it was like a split second, like it was you know, you know those like quick thoughts that come into your head. So it was like that. But I looked back up and what I saw was this ball, Yes, leaving the room. Yes, went out the window. I look back and my mother was she hadn't moved on.

43:41 Speaker 2: Yeah.

43:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, That's what started this podcast. And I've always wanted to know that.

43:48 Speaker 2: Was her soul?

43:49 Speaker 1: Was that her leaving her body, Yes.

43:51 Speaker 2: It was. When wade die, are so in our consciousness, which are does not reside in an organ in our body, It resides outside. And when that happens, we go back to source, We go back to where we came from. And then when we get to their decisions are made on whatever our soul contracts were, whether we've met these contracts or if we have not, And if we have not, we can come back and try this again. If we have met these contracts, then we can make We have choices. We can we can be a dolphin, we could be an extraterrestrial, we could be a rock, you know, we could be whatever we want.

44:31 Speaker 2: And at some point, if you don't want to be in a physical form, you can stay in a non physical etheric being. And we are immortal. When we leave this body, we are not gone. We are immortal. And it goes on and on and on, it never ends. And there's more than one universe and one. There's many many out there and things of this nature. And I think I told you earlier. If I did not, I'll remind you or tell you now. They believe in a creator source, and they all have cells, so they extraterrestrials and interdimensionals.

45:08 Speaker 1: So they still they still they aren't even because I've always wondered if by solving one question, are we alone, say we meet these ethereal you know, the beings you're talking to, would we understand? Would they know who the creator is? So you're saying no, yes.

45:32 Speaker 2: They know that they creator source. They call what they call it, it is a very high consciousness. It is non visible, but it is called the creator source, the creator source.

45:47 Speaker 1: So there is something that they there is something is larger than everything.

45:54 Speaker 2: Yes, because consciousness, but it could be a collection of all of us, all of our consciousness. I don't really I don't claim to know everything, but I know that it's consciousness.

46:07 Speaker 1: So key consciousness, I think the whole key to this.

46:13 Speaker 2: Absolutely frequency consciousness. All that it's it all, it all plays together, it's you know, it's a beautiful thing and it all makes sense. It's just I don't know why it's been so hard for us to figure out.

46:27 Speaker 1: Really, well, you do. Do you like when people see these crafts in the sky?

46:34 Speaker 2: Yeah?

46:34 Speaker 1: For instance, you said something earlier that kind of like it's not depressing. I'm not I'm not going to say it's depressing, But you say said earlier that when people see these things, it's it's meant for them. So is there something special about certain people that they see things?

46:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's more in tune in. Your frequency is higher, and that makes you that's that's that's your part of your evolution. This is part of your evolution. You know, we don't all do things at the same same path. We're all here on different spiritual paths, different goals, different things. So for us, for many of us, we want to know more about probably on the soul level, we want to know, you know where, Well, for me, I've always wanted to know where my soul goes after I live here, And now I know I'm going back because in that reality, all of my family are still alive, and every time I want craft, they're standing around watching me and ev evaluating me and making decisions on how long, how much longer I'm going to be here because they didn't want me to come here to begin with for whatever reason.

47:57 Speaker 2: But I'm here and I'm doing it. But but I know that my family is there and they're waiting on me, and I know that they're missing me.

48:05 Speaker 1: Interesting.

48:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, so so.

48:10 Speaker 1: Is is that how the the ghat because the paranormal side is always kind of it's kind of been where I drew the line in the sand, like I can understand that we're not alone in the universe, but you know, a ghost like I have hard a very hard time with that kind of stuff. But there's been more that's convinced me as of late. What is the connection there to the extraterrestrial?

48:40 Speaker 2: I've seen it those one time, and that's when I was working at Fort Benning, Georgia, and where I was living was off post, and it was close to Confederate battlefields, and you know, there was a big battle that happen all through there. And I was sitting outside with my German shepherd dog and all of a sudden and here comes a Confederate soldier walking across my backyard and he has his gun with the bayonets slung over his shoulder, and he has like this little bucket pale things linging back and forth like a lunch pail, and he has his cap on and he's just marching along and he takes no notice of me or the dog, and the dog just sits there watching him, and I just sit there and watch I was not afraid at all, and that was my first experience seeing a ghost.

49:28 Speaker 2: It did not scare me. And we watched it go all the truck by himself, all the way across the backyard, and then when he got behind a tree, I stood up and went and walked out to look, and he just disappeared.

49:42 Speaker 1: But do you think that that could be more of like an echo, yes, because.

49:50 Speaker 2: It maybe a tear in time. And I think that perhaps say back in the old days, maybe the were seeing us. You know, it's really strange, it's bizarre. It's like the further you get into this deeper and deeper.

50:10 Speaker 1: I thought I never thought about that. Yeah, that that could be the reason that there's.

50:17 Speaker 2: Yeah time and so it's not that their ghosts and maybe they're not dead or just saying either the past or the future, you know.

50:28 Speaker 1: Right right, Oh my god, that's such a such a Next time you talk to your friends, ask them about it.

50:35 Speaker 2: So you would love talking to my son because he and I have all these deep, deep conversations.

50:40 Speaker 1: I really like it's I could just do it for hours. And so okay, so when you when you worked with the army, and and and when you had when you were in that life? Yeah, did did anything? Did you ever see anything that was now that you thought on? It might have been out a place out of character, anything suspicious? Does the DoD know more than they let on? What are you allowed to say?

51:12 Speaker 2: Well, whenever we would have pilots, I worked with officers, and so whenever we'd have a pilot, I would ask them questions like saying anything or you know, have you seen oh, you know, stuff like that, because they're laid back in the chair and or relaxed, and I was, you know, and they were just like, oh, we can't really talk about stuff like that, and so I just kind of left it alone. But I tell you what I did experience, you know, having all these two times, oh break time?

51:43 Speaker 1: No, is that story time?

51:44 Speaker 2: Oh? Story time? I would pick up on different frequencies on soldiers. Some soldiers I could tell that they were an experiencer like me. I would pick up on their frequency. And it was almost as if I could tell because they would be laid back and I'd be sitting over them, and I could sense the frequency difference, you know, from just a regular person. But they would almost like blush because it was like they knew they were exposed, you know. Yeah, and so either either they were extraterrestrial or either they were an experiencer like me.

52:26 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, yeah, you heard me right.

52:28 Speaker 2: Either they were an extraterrestrial or an experiencer like me, a contact to you like me, because their frequency was very high.

52:38 Speaker 1: Okay, So huh, I gotta okay, I gotta ask, how are you insinuating that there may be non humans a part of our government.

52:58 Speaker 2: I don't know anything for a fact, now, don't tend to know, but I do know that sitting in the chair, there was a frequency exchange. And I also have to tell you that just here in the area where I live, I've been in grocery stores and come across some extraterrestrials that were just shopping and just getting the human experience. It's not uncommon. They do that quite often. The humanoid looking ones do that because they can use it. But the thing that always throws them off For me, I can feel their frequency, but they always they never get the clothes right.

53:36 Speaker 2: They never ever get the clothes right. There's always something off, and they look unusual, and usually they're taller or thinner. There's something about their physique that's different. Yeah, yeah, but most people they don't look for things like that, so they just you know, blend in there.

53:56 Speaker 1: So it's the famous thing right, oh god, I can't remember, but like the tiger in the background, where ninety nine percent of people don't see it because they're not looking for it.

54:10 Speaker 2: Sometimes if it's right in your face, you never see it.

54:13 Speaker 1: You'll never even know.

54:14 Speaker 2: Because because it's so natural, it blends in and you just it's you know, you just assume it's like part of your every day. But I have the frequency. I can feel their frequency.

54:26 Speaker 1: That's amazing. So if you you think, do you do you think how many of you are there out there? Do you think that that are consciously aware that they are part of this program? That program, I don't know.

54:42 Speaker 2: I used to think there would be a lot, But now the more that I am around more and more, you know, I mean, they distanced this. I think that we're in distant parts to reach if we were, if they're doing what I'm doing, they have us like in regional areas most likely, and at some point I feel like it's inevitable that we all meet because it is our frequencies. If we all come together, that will help elevate the planet's frequency. And that's part of why we're here. We are elevating Earth. We are here as a representative pushing towards this, and we are helping to encourage people to raise their frequency.

55:29 Speaker 2: But also when people are around us, we can naturally raise people's frequency just from being around us and stuff. And when we get together, it's it's it's pretty powerful and right.

55:42 Speaker 1: And I think for the listener, everyone has this person that they know that when they're in the room with this person, when they're around this person, when this person walks in to any place they go, that they changed the attitude there.

56:02 Speaker 2: For goodness, whatever you want to call it.

56:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And everybody knows that person has at least one of those in their life. So everybody knows what we're talking about right now.

56:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, And they could be sleepers. They may not come to grips with who they are, you know what I'm saying. Everybody is at a different pace, And just because I incarnated here, somebody else may have incarnated here and they may not fully be have the full understanding of it. Even though I was told at different parts of my life to get me prepared for this, but that doesn't mean, you know, and they finally had to do a Condolini awakening on me like Bam, blonde, wake up, you know. But I'm just saying everybody's at a different level of getting this.

56:49 Speaker 2: It is not easy, and yet to understand the world around us influences us on how we accept these things too, because we are here having a human experience. We have families, a husband and wife, children, grandchildren, sisters, brothers, family, mothers and dads, and we want to be loved and respected by them. And sometimes our family is not in favor of these things, and that makes it really hard. It makes it really hard, and I've experienced that, so I understand. You know, it's not easy to put yourself out there and say, hey, this is who I am and this is what I experience, and you know it's hard.

57:31 Speaker 2: It's a yes, it's not.

57:34 Speaker 1: And it's just like your story.

57:37 Speaker 2: I'm sure you're careforl about who you say, what your story to?

57:42 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, let's just say I haven't told the whole thing, yeah to anybody, nobody. What there are aspects to it that you know, I'd love to know more about. And you know, you talk about this this uh, this negative force that's upon humanity or or that as the ability to affect humanity. Doctor Greer and people that come from that side of this topic seem to think that any extraterrestrial or or interdimensional being or anything, it's always going to be something good. What is I believe that.

58:30 Speaker 2: I believe that too. And what is about what is the bad? Our perception? Our lack of understanding what is happening? It is our perception. And that's why I truly believe evolution is inevitable, because that's what it's going to take for humanity to understand and realize there's things around us that we just never saw before, you know, and our understanding of things are based on a lot of the programming from our birth. So we have to learn to open our eyes and be more receptive to things. So the negative beings that are on our planet right now are human beings.

59:18 Speaker 2: Humans are the negative that the human there's a human dark force that that's where the negativity and they don't want us to ascend because they lose control. And this is also a way that they control our population. Our air, food, or water, everything has toxins in it to keep our panal glands thrut down and to keep us from reaching higher intelligence, which is ascension or higher consciousness. Right, were easy to control at a dumbed down rate, and so they put all these chemicals and things on all our things, all in our media.

59:56 Speaker 2: Everything is negative and owned by certain corporations and elites. And that's because they want to control and manipulate humanity. And they have done that for eons. For eons we have been manipulated. And this is the turning point, and this is where the extraterrestrials can extend a helping hand. Is but we have to do our part, raise our freach back.

1:00:21 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we have to reach We have to reach out back.

1:00:26 Speaker 2: And we have to get ourselves out of this negative three d ram into higher levels. How do we do that?

1:00:32 Speaker 1: When? How do you? How do you do that? When? Well, how much of the population is it going to take? Beeauce. I mean we have protests over Palestine and Israel.

1:00:43 Speaker 2: And everybody see what I believe to there. Half of what we see on the media is propaganda. It's not right. Oh absolutely, yeah, So quit watching it. If that's nobody watching it, there's nobody. It's just like a kid. If you keep watching our a dog, your pet, and if he keeps doing something negative and you keep giving it attention, it keeps doing the same thing. But you turn it off and quit watching the media, you stop watching it or be selective about what you watch, then they have nobody to perform for well.

1:01:18 Speaker 1: I think you see that the case in I mean, look at look at just Tucker Carlson. The guy had the number one rated show on cable and they fired him, and he arguably has a bigger audience now on just X. I see it. I see it all the time when the podcast people are And that's the difference now is people are getting not the news but their news exactly.

1:01:52 Speaker 2: So be selective, selective, so we have that choice, but people just turn on and listen to the proper and that that is like brainwash in your head.

1:02:04 Speaker 1: So do you okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna hit you with the I'm gonna hit you with the curveball. But I just want to make sure h that there okay. There's been some stuff that's happened in the recent recent months, like remember that whole fiasco at the at the Mall in Florida, right that police presence or even the thing in Vegas, people are more it seems like the news goes in and out right with that kind of stuff, and people are more concerned with like what Chlory Kardashian's wearing, and it doesn't do you see what I'm saying, Like, it seems like they they fear sales.

1:02:55 Speaker 1: Right, they's watched the left hand, so you don't see what the right hand's doing exactly. So do you think some of these events were actually happening.

1:03:05 Speaker 2: I think they were intentional, and I think it was not extraterrestrial. If it was anything, it would be more of a cryptid type creature, and I would think it would be probably more of the bluebeing top thing because of the location and because of the very limited range that it was in. You know, it was a controllable range. But if it were cryptied, then basically that you know, I have been on spaceships where there are groups of extraterrestrials that are basically explorers that go around looking for cryptids, which in that category would be or what people call to copa good sasquatch, et cetera.

1:03:54 Speaker 2: If these things are not creating habit, they leave them along, you know, if they can blend in and balance in their environment. But if they start to create habit and disrupt humanity, they will go in craft. And that's why you will hear a lot about people seeing a Bigfoot or a sat squad and a craft being thereby. They are going to get it and relocate it, take it back and either take it to its dimension where it's going on another dimension, yes, or relocate it away from humanity because they're not supposed to cross that bridge.

1:04:30 Speaker 2: And if and if they're behaving and not, that's why Bigfoot doesn't want to have anything to do with us, because they're in their own little world and they're not supposed to interfere with us.

1:04:41 Speaker 1: And they know that or they get relocated, so they don't want that. No, So so we if we go out there and we try to find them.

1:04:51 Speaker 2: Yes, we're creating a problem for them.

1:04:55 Speaker 1: There's like exploring bigfoots that ever found them?

1:04:59 Speaker 2: The aliens, well, they can they can jump between you know, like a dimension. Uh. And that's why. And so what was happening was I was an observer. I don't claim to be a super soldier or anything like that. I was an observer, but they would and I was around aquatic beams for the first time, and they were there looking for creatures and there would be like a heat sensor come up them like a clear screen, and so they would locate it, go to it, contain it, and then take it to a new location, either in the dimension where it belongs or in a different area to keep it isolated from humanity.

1:05:43 Speaker 1: Interesting.

1:05:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it.

1:05:49 Speaker 1: Just opens the Pandora's barked. I've seen before too, So yeah, let's go over more. So, let's let's talk about some of this and experiences you've had personally. Bring me back to one of these experiences.

1:06:08 Speaker 2: Oh, this goes deep. I mean, I've done so many. I'm sixty four years old. I've done a lot. You know. I went on an excursion to the Moon and some Nordics were pilating the craft. The female gray that I'm bonded with and I love, by the way, and she loves me. We went up there and basically they let me experience going from craft walking on the moon and then getting into another craft. And we didn't stay there very long, but they wanted me to experience it, and so I experienced that. Other times I've experienced they were trying to teach me how to breathe this fluid.

1:06:54 Speaker 2: It was like it wasn't water, but it was like a fluid, a breathable fluid. And they would put me in tanks and hook me up to like some kind of I guess a detection for respiration or or I don't know, check and make sure that I'll okay that kind of thing. I can't get vidols, yeah, vitals whatever, and so, but they were teaching me to breathe under like to breathe this fluid and stuff. And I was like in a tank and stuff like that. So and I do know that sometimes when I am traveling at a great distance it's a type of teleportation or something, but they do black me out.

1:07:42 Speaker 2: And the times that I have I wake up, usually when I wake up on craft, I'm past this nausea verdigost stage. But a lot of times when I'm coming back home, as I'm walking, I'll start to come fully conscious and in that still that it's a horrible verdigo where you just feel like you've been oh right, that kind of thing. So I think at some points I must be sent a pretty good distance. And so for whatever reasons, I have to be trained to breathe a fluid or and I have been on like underwater craft usos or that's not what they call them, but underwater and things.

1:08:29 Speaker 2: So I don't know really why they wanted me to learn to do that, but they did that. And then just other experiences is you know, playing around with different gadgets and things, teaching me things stuff like that.

1:08:41 Speaker 1: That so yeah, I guess you got to ask why right, so why so?

1:08:50 Speaker 3: And and.

1:08:53 Speaker 2: But they're very task oriented. There's not a lot of room for negotiationations or.

1:09:02 Speaker 1: Is time work to seem for them that there is.

1:09:04 Speaker 2: No such thing as time, So it can seem it can seem like I am there for weeks or days, but really when I come back here, it's hardly nothing. Yeah, in like sixty four years of age seems old here, but there that's just a that's nothing. That's nothing. And you know, my son and I have such active dream life with them sometimes and I'm just going to throw this out there. This is not a fact. This is just he and I have these deep conversations so are are so real and sometimes like you know, we'll have

1:09:44 Speaker 2: symptoms from whatever the excursions were that we were in. But anyway, sometimes we think maybe we are in a sleep stasis up there on craft and this down here is the dream.

1:10:02 Speaker 1: Holy shit, I imagine imagine that.

1:10:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've had that. We think about that and wondered.

1:10:10 Speaker 1: That a lot because could this be the simulation.

1:10:16 Speaker 2: I don't know everything, but I do know that I have a very active life up there, and I do know that a lot of times I am not in my human consciousness while I'm up there doing things, but I remember things. So that's kind of strange.

1:10:31 Speaker 4: But yeah, because like you know, yeah.

1:10:40 Speaker 1: It's I feel like I've been the only one to have that feeling that I it seems like something's off just the other day. Now, I just I can't say this for for absolute certainty. But the car behind me, now I don't want to hear because today there are car less I mean driverless cars. This was an old Toyota. It would not be capable of having no driver.

1:11:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

1:11:19 Speaker 1: Write it behind me. It was driving and it was I'm looking for the driver, and I swear there was nobody there. Yeah, And I was like this, I couldn't have my phone because I would have to turn around and videotape and I probably wouldn't have got it through the glass, but I was actively looking in the rear view mirror, turning around, trying to like change the angle of the car ever so slightly to see if I could, you know, maybe they were a darker skinned person, so they were just going no, dude, there was no one in the car, right.

1:11:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand. Yeah, there's a lot to this world that we are just now beginning to not only understand but see. You know, our awareness is increasing. So that's how I know we're full blast in this ascension. We're full of blast into it. It's happening. Yeah.

1:12:13 Speaker 1: Yeah. And just a couple months ago, my girlfriend and I we were making a commercial for one of our sponsors, and this glowing orb of light just came out of nowhere, out of nowhere, It just lit the forest up, and I had it on video. She saw me pull out my phone and start video recording it. We go, we go back to review it after we because when we got to where the light would have been, it was gone. Yeah. We went back to review the footage. Nothing was saved except one second. Wow, one second of footage just to show myself that it was there.

1:13:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, but not enough to prove to anyone that it was real.

1:13:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because that's one of those situations where it was only meant for you, you know, and for her, for y'all. So sometimes, you know, it's so crazy.

1:13:19 Speaker 1: Though.

1:13:20 Speaker 2: What I found is when situations like that happened, it is kind of like a reward system. Yes, it's like letting you know you're on the right path, and that's them giving you the goddance. You know, insane, you.

1:13:36 Speaker 1: Know, because could that be what what you know? Christopher Columbus, I know everybody hates him now, but he did he did right in his journal. Yeah, he had an experience about about an experience with an orb. Yeah you know, uh, the Israelites that were led through the desert. I mean, come on, yeah, Like I think everybody in the world, no matter what your religion, take a step back, just realize that we're all telling the same stories, we're all building the same monuments, right, yeah, what do we do?

1:14:12 Speaker 2: Let me let me give you an example, like I was asking at one time, I was asking the interdimensionals why they look so different than just you know, grays or reptilians, Nord et cetera, et cetera. And the way they explained it to me, if they were to teleport you and I back to biblical times. Okay, so they take us who we are today, at our frequency, et cetera, and take us back to biblical days. We walk out in front of these people at that time, to them, we would appear as the shiny ones. We would be looking luminescent and stuff because of our frequency difference between them and that stage of evolution and where we are right now.

1:15:03 Speaker 2: So I think what they're trying to say is that we're all gonna we're all going up a DNA ladder, working at being better human, better beings. But we have to go through these different phases to get there, and what seems so rare and different to us now will turn around and be the same things to another generation later.

1:15:28 Speaker 1: On, right right now.

1:15:31 Speaker 2: And it's kind of like what we were talking about, the ghost and things.

1:15:33 Speaker 1: Like that, you know, right? And why So? So I live in Massachusetts and everyone knows about the Salem with trials right the listen the land, you know that land, it holds that atrocity there.

1:15:55 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can imagine. I imagine you could just feel the.

1:15:58 Speaker 1: When you I swear, yeah, when you cross that timeline there is a feeling that it's like tingles your spine.

1:16:11 Speaker 2: I can imagine you know that that's so sad.

1:16:15 Speaker 1: But I grew up next to a road that is haunted. It's called Dudley Road, and uh there's a lot of connections to the Witch trials. Uh and uh I that's I made a movie about it. I'm editing it right now. So that's why, like I I the paraormal stuff, I'm like, uh, you know, I'm I'm getting I'm I'm engaging it more so. I you know, I'm I want to know more. But

1:16:45 Speaker 1: the the extraterrestrial agenda, it's it's the ultimate thing. It's yeah, uh, it's that I want to know the endgame.

1:16:56 Speaker 2: And absolutely, yeah, there's so much out there, you know, but I don't think we'll ever totally know everything. And anybody that tells you that they know everything.

1:17:05 Speaker 1: They are as nothing. So that's what's funny about this, Uh, this topic is Yeah, the ones that are often yelling the loudest about things that they know or how you should interact, or the ones that don't want the status quota change, that's.

1:17:24 Speaker 2: Right because they're in their own little world in reality and making their money exactly.

1:17:30 Speaker 1: Then why did they want the Why would they want the mystery to go away? When when you pay them thousands of dollars to do an appearance?

1:17:38 Speaker 2: Exactly?

1:17:40 Speaker 1: But I hope this is the first of many conversations.

1:17:44 Speaker 2: Oh I love it, Yes, yes, yeah, certainly, I'll give you my after we get off here, I'll give you my son's email and all that kind of stuff.

1:17:53 Speaker 1: And yeah, what would you say to the person, the average listener who may not feel that their frequency is high enough? How do you develop those kind of do you think that anyone can raise there?

1:18:10 Speaker 2: For?

1:18:10 Speaker 1: Obviously you think that, yes, So how does one do that?

1:18:17 Speaker 2: Meditate? Meditate is key? But what I do is I think we all should We should ask our subconscious. Our subconscious knows everything.

1:18:29 Speaker 1: So should we all take mushrooms?

1:18:32 Speaker 2: I don't know about I've never done that because I don't the only.

1:18:35 Speaker 1: Way I don't to speak to my subconscious.

1:18:38 Speaker 2: Well, I had a whole conversation with interdimensionals and stuff about that. For some people, that works for me, I'm already past that frequency. I have a direct line with them. I don't need that. But I'm not saying that it's not the path for everybody. But for me, that's not the path. But what I do is I meditate every single day, every single night, and I ask my subconscious to open up into my human consciousness. I give it permission to release information. I can handle it. I'm ready that you do not have to protect me any longer, because our brain and our consciousness does that.

1:19:23 Speaker 2: It protects us. It puts a boundary it. You know, it protects us. So I allow it permission to help me because our world is changing and we need to know the truth, we need to make decisions. And so I ask my inner soul self to come forward and help me. And I think that's what everybody should do, is find your inner soul self. Remember why you're here, Remember who you truly are, not the program, not the one you know now, I mean you still are that person. But also to know who your soul self is, what is it?

1:19:58 Speaker 2: What is really important.

1:20:00 Speaker 1: To you when you're alone, Right, when you're alone and nobody's watching, right, who are you?

1:20:10 Speaker 2: Yeah?

1:20:10 Speaker 1: Find out who that person?

1:20:11 Speaker 2: Trying to keep it in a quiet with no distractions. And when I say I meditate, I focus with pure intention. And when I say that, what I mean is not only am I thinking it, but I'm using a muscle in my brain and I'm I'm putting energy into it. Yes, you just show intention. And that also when I talk to extraterreacials and interdimensionals, I do that because when I am talking to them, that is the most important thing to me at the time, and I want them to know that I'm not playing a game.

1:20:48 Speaker 1: You know, it almost sounds like a beacon.

1:20:51 Speaker 2: It is, it is. It is a beacon. Our nail glen is like a peacon. We are like little antennas. But they've done us down and none.

1:21:00 Speaker 1: Of it works right. And so that's that's what I was getting at, is you know, how do we get the masses to open up? And I think that consciousness is the key because if you think, if you think about it, right, where the we're the Apex predator or the Apex Okay, as far as what we understand, yes, we are the top of the food chain for the Earth right now and the next stage of evolution because it won't be physical because nothing is physically right, it's not. Nothing's challenging us.

1:21:40 Speaker 2: Being attacked anymore, right, We're being attacked here. Everything is going to happen up here. From here on out, and this is where our technology is leading and where our future computers, future everything is going to be in our consciousness. Yes, yes, that doesn't mean we're going to turn into a ah No, it doesn't have to be that way. That is another human construct. You know, extrapressionals and interdimensionals are not a so we don't have to become that either.

1:22:14 Speaker 1: Of a tool. Yeah, so exactly, yeah, it's a tool to to assist. But like I said, we can we can definitely chat more, but because I do like the AI conversation, but it's one to have in itself because it's very complex, but it's it's uh, I mean, it's ever present because it's everywhere right now and it's being talked about all over. So I definitely love to have you back and and chat more. But where can people reach out, find you and know what you're doing? You know, uh, spread your seed, let us know.

1:23:00 Speaker 2: My website is time Fordisclosure dot com. My Facebook group is Time for Disclosures slash. We have never been along slash we are the disclosure because I truly believe humans waking up and understanding who we are and our true potential is the true disclosure here. I am in a lot of Facebook groups I belong to move on. I belong to a lot of organizations Ope, US, Tessa, anything that has to do with extraterrestrials, interdimensionals, UAPs, anything that has to do support programs. So I try to keep a lot of those links, and I love to keep all you guys podcasts linked up into the groups so that people can get some good, truthful information.

1:23:48 Speaker 2: So yeah, anywhere on Facebook. And I haven't really ventured out into other media platforms, but maybe I will. Maybe I won't, but I like what I'm doing right now. Yeah.

1:23:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, whatever I can do to assist you, I'd be happy to help. Uh and uh here it is. I look forward to much much more collaboration and networking with you, Nancy, and you and your son. Thank you for the work that you're doing, and thank you to the eternal beings that are watching over us and out there, because it gives me hope. It gives me.

1:24:25 Speaker 2: Hope, anything of hope.

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1:25:01 Speaker 3: We'll see you on the other side.

1:25:07 Speaker 2: We can