ORBS From God? Uncovering the TRUTH of An Experiencer.

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1:05 Speaker 1: Listener experience er volume as our Revent volume number six.

1:10 Speaker 2: So I believe this.

1:11 Speaker 1: Is our sixth listener experiencer who's gonna come on the show and kind of talk about what's been going on to them.

1:19 Speaker 2: And you know, there's a stark stark.

1:24 Speaker 1: Resemblance with this, with this current witness or experiencer who the story very much reminds me of Chris Bloodso and it hits on a lot of the same themes. So it's gonna give me a good chance to ask some of the questions I would ask Chris. And you know, I have talked to Chris many times trying to get him on the show.

1:52 Speaker 2: But that's you know, easier said than done.

1:55 Speaker 1: We're still working on it, Chris, come on, But here we go, Candy minga, what's up?

2:01 Speaker 2: Brother?

2:02 Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me Tyler. I really appreciate it.

2:05 Speaker 4: I know I've been handed to try to get this conversation going on, but this has just kind of been going on for months and I just finally had the courage to kind of come forward. And part of it was through Chris Bledsoe. If it wasn't for him, you know, sharing about his book, you know, the UFO of God, I don't think I would have the courage to come forward, especially for me because as being a pharmacist, you know, as a healthcare professional, there's a lot of credibility and professionalism on the line, and so for me to be doing this it's a stretch.

2:34 Speaker 4: But knowing that there are experiences like Chris out there and other people who maybe having those similar experiences. I felt comfortable coming forward, especially with the amount of orbs that I've been seeing, so I just kind of wanted to share my story with people and kind of get an understanding what I've been going through.

2:53 Speaker 1: Well, I think that is very brave and I think it is also very telling.

2:59 Speaker 2: If you don't, I'm asking, how old are you?

3:02 Speaker 3: I am thirty two?

3:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a year old than I am. How did you know that?

3:12 Speaker 3: I mean, I've I've watched you, you know, I to know who I'm.

3:15 Speaker 4: Talking with too, I do would like to sound yeah.

3:22 Speaker 1: But all right, yeah, so yeah, you're older than I am. So that's and listen, I have my own experience, and I didn't talk about it for so long out in the public, you know, even being in the Hollywood industry. I didn't want to go that far. So I understand, and I think with your situation especially uh it is it is telling though that the world is changing.

3:50 Speaker 2: And you know what gets me is this story out of Boeing.

4:02 Speaker 1: It really throws me back because like, do you remember, I mean, we it was a little before our time, but we did grow up in that era where our parents and their parents like astronauts. They were American heroes or national heroes out of their countries.

4:22 Speaker 2: And somehow, like.

4:27 Speaker 1: The Space Race ended, the Cold War ended, and the money in the viewership ended for for the Apollo missions, so they ended up canceling and cutting like the the missions mission budget. But NASA obviously continued to be a thing. But private aerospace is becoming very, very dominant in the sector.

4:56 Speaker 2: Private space travel. I don't think too far away.

5:01 Speaker 1: We see guys like Jeff Bezos. I mean, they took Captain Kirk to space, right, so I mean it space is going to be a commercialized thing soon. But we got these Boeing and Boeing is a company that and I know we're gonna be talking about you today, but I want to spend a couple of minutes, even if we didn't get to the second topic, I want to spend a couple of minutes saying that how much of an outrage it is that this isn't on the news every single day. And I decided that every single day on Twitter, I'm going to tag NASA, I'm gonna tag Boeing, and I'm gonna remind them of each day that those astronauts are up there.

5:47 Speaker 1: They're supposed to be up there for eight days, and now they're not gonna be able to come home till twenty twenty five, for like four months.

5:56 Speaker 2: We have a long ways to go.

5:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think with the national media, and I think part of the platforms of like what you're going, what you're doing is I feel like with nowadays is the national media is something that we can trust. And I think a lot of the public audience is in kind of just general public are realizing that there are some questions based on what they're coveraging, why they're coveraging, what they're saying.

6:19 Speaker 3: Some of it just you know, if you're looking at it from like.

6:22 Speaker 4: A you know, kind of a critique aspect of things, you kind of question, is that what's the motive of what they're covering and why they're covering it? And I agree, I think it probably should be on you know, especially with this whole topic itself. Like you know, the fact with David Grush, it was there for you know, maybe a month or so and then it kind of just died away.

6:43 Speaker 1: Now, why the closest we came to full on disclosure. If if the media was truly free and fair. That would have been it. That would have been it, that would have been cookie crumble.

7:00 Speaker 4: You know, it's like, what are the most important topics that we are discussing in our time?

7:04 Speaker 3: I mean, you think about it and.

7:07 Speaker 2: You know what it is.

7:09 Speaker 1: You know what it you know what it is is what dress Kim Kardashian is wearing to the met gala that is more important to the public than David Grush Actually better comparison, Johnny Depp and Amber heard.

7:30 Speaker 2: That trial got more attention. I'm not even I didn't even need to say anything.

7:42 Speaker 3: That's the power of national media.

7:43 Speaker 4: You can address and you can cover what you want and why you want to do it, and you know people will listen because you know, I think for me personally, you know, back in twenty seventeen, when this kind of hole with you know, Tom DeLong and Liu and all those guys and you know, coming forward about it, I was busy in pharmacy school. I wasn't paying attention to it because you know, what my interpretation of the national media was was if it's important enough for them to coverage and it's important to me, they will do so.

8:10 Speaker 4: And I think it was that underlying trust that kind of has now kind of dwindled because when you're actually doing your.

8:16 Speaker 3: Own researcher going who wha, whoa, like what's going on?

8:19 Speaker 4: Like the Arrow report, you know with Kirkpatrick, you're like, is me being you know, having a doctrine. I'm looking and I'm reading what the report says, and since I've been following it for over year, I'm like.

8:28 Speaker 3: What the hell is this?

8:29 Speaker 4: Right? Like, it's it's the most obvious enraging thing because if you actually are following it, you realize what's going on, and it makes people like myself more engaged on the matter.

8:39 Speaker 2: No I and check out this.

8:43 Speaker 1: So apparently this stranded astronauts reported hearing eerie pulsing sound. So this was reported seven hours ago, eerie pulsing sound coming from troubled Boeing spacecraft. And then NASA obviously, you know, put a their response and you know, like like they always do, but like it. So the blue guird Boeing star Liner spacecraft has been making alarming noises while docked to the ISS International Space Station, causing one of the astronauts in space to make an urgent report to ground control. Major Tom Sorry couldn't resist the strange sound was first reported on Saturday morning.

9:28 Speaker 1: But guys, this is this story. These two people right here.

9:36 Speaker 2: Have been stranded.

9:40 Speaker 1: In space and will not be coming back to Earth until at least at least February. They were supposed to spend eight days. Imagine if it was you or someone in your family, Imagine, imagine this was the space race, the Cold War, this would be these people would be being heralded. But because it's Boeing, and and this ties into the UFO community, especially because Boeing is what it's a large aerospace company. They've been having a lot of issues lately, you know, whistle blowers. We're seeing some of the same themes as the UFO topic, right, whistle blowers that that seem to.

10:42 Speaker 2: Disappear, you know, if you know what I mean.

10:47 Speaker 1: But yeah, worse than that, Uh, these these people, these people are just that they're being the it's being suppressed. It's that they don't want that on the news right now. They don't want that on the news right now. Boeing doesn't need that on the news right now because guess what, every almost every commercial airline or is a Boeing, right or whatever. Sixty seventy percent of them are boeing, So if that caused a little bit of fear, right, that would be mass mass, mass, mass loss for the commercial airline industry.

11:27 Speaker 2: So they are suppressing this story because of their image, and that, my friends, is how we know.

11:36 Speaker 1: We don't live in a free press free site. So uh, with that being said, let's switch on over to you. But what do you think, man, what do you think about all this shit?

11:49 Speaker 4: The whistleblowers are bowing but everything, I mean, I agree. I think there are like patriot whistleblowers who are doing the right thing, and but the all you run into is you know the national security and you know your clearance, and you're trying and it just it's really tough because you're trying to do what's right, but at the same time, you know you have these obligations and so you know, when they're saying, oh, show is the evidence, Well, these guys can't do anything about it.

12:16 Speaker 3: And that's why the Whistleblower Act is, you.

12:18 Speaker 4: Know, and in this whole upcoming legislation is so important for them to be able to kind of talk about maybe what's going on the under the sheets of everything, because I think.

12:30 Speaker 3: The public is now becoming more and more aware of the matter.

12:34 Speaker 4: And it's only going to get worse, you know, because the secrets all, you know, the stenche of, it's going to rise to the top at some point.

12:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, and you know they went, so they went.

12:50 Speaker 1: I believe they blasted off in June fifth So June, July, August, September, October, November, December, January, February nine an eight day trip nine months. Jeez, nine that's almost a thousand.

13:14 Speaker 2: It's just it's a remark. It blows my mind.

13:17 Speaker 1: It's just so I am not going to shut up about this for the next nine months. Every day, every single day, I'm gonna say it. Uh, and I'm gonna remind people. But listen, man, today's show it is all about you. So right after this, I want you to start with your story. Okay, So why don't you give us your name, where you're where you're located, in the in the in the world.

13:57 Speaker 2: You don't have to give us your address on hey.

13:59 Speaker 3: I don't care. I want you, guys. I want everyone to experience what I'm seeing outside.

14:02 Speaker 2: So start off with that.

14:05 Speaker 1: And then I wanted I'm going to ask you some probing questions and we'll get you going.

14:11 Speaker 4: Okay, So my name's Andy Tominaga. I live in Salt Lake City, Utah, basically downtown.

14:17 Speaker 3: You know, a few you know, yeah, a few blocks.

14:20 Speaker 4: So the fact that I'm seeing things out there and I got video and I've been setting it to people, and it's kind of been more and more of these incidences where I feel you're in.

14:31 Speaker 2: The same stay as Skinwalker.

14:33 Speaker 3: Yeah.

14:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, I see when I'm driving, I literally see his you know, some of his office as being you know, I see the Brandon Fugels and I'm like, yeah, man, he's.

14:42 Speaker 2: I'm in touch with him too.

14:44 Speaker 3: And you want to know what's funny too.

14:46 Speaker 4: My babysitter actually was the arborus from the most recent season when the sheriff finally had the courage to come forward about I forget what owner. It was like a couple prior and the he finally admitted that there was a craft that had crashed in and went through the tree.

15:01 Speaker 2: And so that was this most recent season.

15:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, my babysitter was the one analyzing the tree. I was like, no way, like John, that's you you know what a funny story about John?

15:11 Speaker 3: Because I have a twin sister. So I was a little shithead.

15:14 Speaker 4: And so back in the day when he'd get mad at me the Outcast song you know, hey y'all, so he'd give me a swirly and then right at the part when it was like how cold, and then he pulled my head and I'd be like, I scold.

15:28 Speaker 2: I was such a.

15:28 Speaker 4: Little I was a stinker. So I deserved it, but I was laughing so hard. I've been actually trying to reach out to him, but he hasn't replied because I'm like, I wanted to talk to him about my experiences and everything because I want to I'm.

15:40 Speaker 1: In touch with a lot of the multiple people at the Ranch plus branded. So what we talked about before recording, I will we'll circle, we'll circle back. Yeah, but listen, did you have any interest in the FO topic before your own experiences?

16:05 Speaker 2: What was your enthuce? You know, what was your.

16:12 Speaker 1: How did you get into this topic? Was it your encounter or was it interest?

16:19 Speaker 4: So there was kind of three things that prior so I for the first time, I was, you know, surfing, and moment of contact by James Fox.

16:28 Speaker 2: I was coming on the show in a couple of weeks.

16:31 Speaker 3: Oh, we'll tell him he was my influence, like because.

16:34 Speaker 2: When I was watching my influence him.

16:36 Speaker 4: Yeah, because when you Here's the thing for me is like I like to see it. Like when someone's telling a story, you can feel it through their emotions because if they're if they're genuinely, if you feel like there's some like kind of bs behind it. But seeing and hearing what those people in like Brazil and Virginia were going through, you're just like, you couldn't make this up and you know, And so for me, I was like, if this is real, and you know what else could be? And then you know, the Vegas crash happened and that family came forward and I asked myself, I'm like, why would they come forward and talk about this?

17:06 Speaker 4: I mean this is a pretty you know, taboo topic and.

17:09 Speaker 3: Stuff like that.

17:10 Speaker 4: And so for me, you know those issues and then obviously grush and then you know, having those things, I just was like, this, this has to be legit, Like we couldn't be you know, making this up.

17:21 Speaker 3: And then I had some things happen to me.

17:24 Speaker 4: That I don't feel comfortable discussing, but it was something where it kind of it freaked me out. I would love to share it, but it's something that I'm holding near and dear to my heart. But it was part of the reason why I was going through this hardship for over a year. And how Chris Bletsoe describes it, you know, I was in my deepest, kind of darkest moments of my life that where I basically had lost contact with my family, my girlfriend ended up breaking up with me, who I thought I was going to marry at the time, and I was just trying to look out to the stars for kind of like maybe like a friend in a way, and part of me looking out in the sky and just looking up the stars and just kind of saying, like, what is my purpose here?

18:13 Speaker 4: Why am I here? And that's when these orbs started showing up, and you know that happened. It's like beginning of June, end of May, and they continually show up. I can talk about kind of more and more of my encounter and encounters. Excuse me, but that's kind of what happened to me. And I feel like it was going through that hardship because I've never kind of gone through that type of circumstance. Ever, I don't think anyone should ever have to go through what I had to go through personally, Tyler.

18:46 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this, man, I think and this is this is just a theory of mine because when I saw.

19:03 Speaker 1: What I saw with my mother, when I saw what looked I mean, I mean, if you've done your research on me, I don't know if you heard me tell the story, have you?

19:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'd love you to share it again.

19:21 Speaker 4: Yeah.

19:21 Speaker 1: So when I was in the room with my mother in your path, she was there talking. She was there, like not they're there, but she was in there. Her essence was, her consciousness was there. You know, the drugs, like the morphine and stuff they were they're obviously keeping her sedated. But I was talking to her. And then my phone began to buzz and it was in my left pocket. And for like you know, we all do it for like split second, like you kind of like make It's those everyday choices you make like split seconds, right.

20:07 Speaker 2: You know people don't realize, but think about how many.

20:10 Speaker 1: Decisions you make on a daily basis in a split second, Like all right, do I want to go this way or this way?

20:16 Speaker 2: Right?

20:16 Speaker 1: It was one of those decisions. It happened so quick and so instantaneously that within second a quarter millisecond, I have looked down and looked back up, you know, and made the conscious decision. I don't care what the fucking text messenger call is. It's not worth it right now.

20:38 Speaker 2: But in that time.

20:43 Speaker 1: Something crossed my field division went out and it the bed was in the middle of the room. So okay, if this is the room or beds here, the window is here, so and I I'm represented here. It crosses and then goes out the window.

21:07 Speaker 2: So if that makes any sense. If so, it crossed my field of vision and then out the window, so start to be like glare. It just didn't.

21:21 Speaker 1: I tried to find every fucking prosaic explanation.

21:26 Speaker 2: Trust me. What I saw was a ball that looked like it bent light around it. It like on a highway when you look down let like dispersion eat right.

21:45 Speaker 1: It was like that in a ball form, but it was like that light was bending around it rather than it having any true solid, solid like color.

21:58 Speaker 2: So it was really weird.

22:00 Speaker 1: But that's my only orb But it's when we are at our most vulnerable, I think, or maybe even on the on bull spectrums, right like total euphoria or total surrender, you're you're more likely to see beyond the veil.

22:26 Speaker 4: I think these orbs definitely have that understanding from what my experience was.

22:32 Speaker 2: They know I was long winded. I'm so sorry.

22:35 Speaker 4: No, I think it compliments exactly what kind of what I've been experiencing.

22:39 Speaker 3: Because it's interesting when you talk about you know, you know, the.

22:42 Speaker 4: Emotions and all that sorts like it when these orbs would come, it would initially it was through the genuine emotion of just like sorrow, pain and it. You know, it was kind of there being uplifting just seeing that hey, we're there, we understand what you're going through. And it's interesting how you make the point of like it for some reason, when you're looking up at the stars, it knows where you're going to be looking. And like I've had these questions where I've journaled it and I'm like I've asked the question like why me?

23:15 Speaker 4: And then you'd see an orb come in and then go by, disappear and then come back and go again. So you know, it's not like a satellite or anything like that, and how.

23:24 Speaker 3: It would get brighter and brighter.

23:26 Speaker 4: I have an experience with my buddy and so I don't generally do like you know, Stephen Greer like CE five and stuff like that. Like, but for my buddy going through this, I was witnessing more and more orbs and I finally was getting them on video. So at this point I just I was confident enough because you know, being a pharmacist, I didn't want people to be like, oh, yeah, you're just seeing things, my man. I wanted to have multiple experiences as well as getting it on video before.

23:57 Speaker 3: I wanted to bring someone along, right, and when I problem.

24:00 Speaker 2: Can I can? I can? I pause you? Yeah?

24:03 Speaker 3: Yeah?

24:04 Speaker 2: You being a.

24:05 Speaker 1: Pharmacist, does anyone what do you get drug tested?

24:13 Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, you do get drug tested?

24:17 Speaker 1: Because like could anyone, could anyone be like he's fucking taking meds?

24:24 Speaker 3: Yeah?

24:25 Speaker 4: I mean if they are concerned about my will going but like a yeah.

24:29 Speaker 2: Like are you hallucinate?

24:30 Speaker 1: Because that's going to be the first question is is is is this is he on something?

24:37 Speaker 2: Like do you take any do you do you take any meds?

24:41 Speaker 3: Yeah? Are you asking me personally?

24:43 Speaker 2: Yeah? You don't have to, you know.

24:46 Speaker 3: That?

24:46 Speaker 2: What what an altered perception?

24:49 Speaker 4: I would say in the setting of what I've been I've been taking for anything Okay, what I'm I mean, I take meds, but in the setting of this, I've been taking for ten years. And also it doesn't really it doesn't matter for me because I have it on video as well as other people witnessing it with me. So it doesn't really matter to me in that way because I got video evidence as well as corroborating evidence, right, other people who have seen these with me, right.

25:15 Speaker 2: And I have seen the videos. Are you listening?

25:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, for anyone listening, I would highly advise that for this episode. Uh, maybe at this point you're gonna register as watching listening to the episode, but maybe switch over to YouTube because we're gonna throw up some videos and and and you know to our listening audience guys shit, like you know, subscribe on YouTube. We have like seventy thousand people that listen, how you know, the show some love on the YouTube side because we're trying to do some some bigger and better projects. So uh, with that being said, I want to you know, I want to show some of the videos that you did send me because I did see them.

26:03 Speaker 2: But my take on.

26:04 Speaker 1: Them is we need more evidence because iPhone cameras just aren't Sorry, no, no, I've said offward like four times are I bleep it during if if I think you can get away with one and then I believe the rest.

26:27 Speaker 2: But what is so because any all the videos and in.

26:37 Speaker 1: My eyes going forward, video evidence is going to start losing its credibility because.

26:45 Speaker 2: Of the advent of AI.

26:48 Speaker 1: That unless you have the data, and I bet you do so, because if you're taking them with an iPhone and you have them still saved on your iPhone, then you have the metada, so you're good. You could back it up with metadata and maybe you know with what we're what we talked about earlier, we could show some of that. But I without having to show the videos, I want you to talk to me about the first time, the moment of contact, if you will.

27:25 Speaker 3: Okay, So I was looking at the star.

27:28 Speaker 2: I think as much bring me back as if I was standing next to you.

27:35 Speaker 3: Okay, I was out.

27:38 Speaker 4: So all these encounters usually happened in my backyard, and I was looking up at the stars. And I don't know if it's conscientiously, but you know, it was kind of creating this relationship of treating them as if they were their hon human like. It was as if it was my own friend in a way, and I was it was more of like a therapy session, to be honest. And I was looking at and I was so upset because Sheila, my ex, was like the love of my life, and you know, she wasn't replying anymore, and I was just like, why did you guys do this to me?

28:13 Speaker 4: I didn't deserve any of this from this past year. You know, I had a loving girlfriend who I wanted to marry. I still was in contact with my family and friends, and this whole topic has just pushed me away and turmoiled me. And then, you know, I was for minutes and that's when this yellow.

28:31 Speaker 3: Orb you know, started to appear.

28:33 Speaker 4: And then it just came out and then slowly started moving and I knew it wasn't a star because I've been staring at the sky for so long and it was moving and I'm like, what is that?

28:42 Speaker 3: And then.

28:44 Speaker 4: I asked something like along the lines because it was a little cloudy on the south side, and I asked it to protect me. And within like a second, and this is all constantly, this is all in my head, something lit up and it was a dark it was the cloud was light gray, but it like a spherical mass within the cloud and there was no thunder or lightning at the time. There was like a purplish thunder and it kind of outlined this like blacks like and it appeared to be like a sphere and then it just it went away, and I was like, what the fuck is that?

29:19 Speaker 4: And for me, it startled me in a way. But I also heard about Chris Bledso, and so I was like, is this what's going on? And I didn't have like a fear. It was more or less that I was being heard or listened to, and I also felt validated, feeling that they were protecting me.

29:38 Speaker 3: I didn't know what it was.

29:40 Speaker 2: I you know, it was a yellow or yeah.

29:44 Speaker 1: And when you were looking at it, sorry, when you were looking at it, what was is it self illuminated? Was it pulsating anything? What was what was the description? Was it just a perfect ball light?

30:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was it was up in the air, and you know, I don't I'm not a what would you call a islid or you know or you know, so I don't know distances, but it was, you know, above in the clouds. And so it's hard to describe the best way to describe it.

30:31 Speaker 3: I can see.

30:31 Speaker 4: It was this one video that I sent you two minutes and thirty I think it was the one where it kind of goes over my house and it's really slow. Did you do you remember that one that I sent you. It's kind of like those because those are the types of orbs that I see the most often. But they do illuminate and they do get brighter and brighter, and part of that too, is through conscientiousness, and it's like them validating what my thoughts were at the time.

30:59 Speaker 3: And I want to do tie going to talk about everything why I had the courage to.

31:02 Speaker 4: Come forward because it was something with this message that I got that I felt like compelled to come forward.

31:09 Speaker 1: Right Well, that's what I was going to get to it because I literally just wrote it's funny, I wrote the I'll show it to you out there, listen. I want to I'm not gonna. I don't want to bring this up.

31:28 Speaker 2: In a way that you make it makes you feel like I'm labeling that.

31:39 Speaker 1: Do you do you think? Do you have any faith? Are you faithful? Are you religious?

31:46 Speaker 2: Dude?

31:47 Speaker 3: Do I can? I I want to let me tell you the story.

31:50 Speaker 2: Of how are we thinking?

31:52 Speaker 1: This is something that's maybe beyond just an extraterrestrial visitation, maybe something the lines of what our ancestors would maybe call a angelic or divine.

32:08 Speaker 4: It's hard to know, but I do have a story that I would love to share that.

32:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's indescribable, but I kind of can.

32:15 Speaker 1: You tell me you saw the lady in the white, Lady of White? I'm walking out the door.

32:20 Speaker 3: It's it's a little different. It's weird.

32:22 Speaker 4: It's a little different, but it's not it's I got, man, do I gotta? I want to I want to share this, I want, but I want.

32:28 Speaker 2: To kind of bring bring it.

32:30 Speaker 4: Well, let me explain to you the let me just kind of go through everything that I've been going through, because it won't make sense until I kind of put a timeline on it. So let me just kind of get to uh, just talking about seeing these orbs on a nightly basis. So it's kind of my way of therapy because I treat them as if they're like my best friends, and you know, emotionally, you know, they seem to be really engaged with emotion, and you know, with my hardships and everything like that seem to be gravitating and I also think just being authentic.

33:03 Speaker 3: And genuine, you know, I had Initially I.

33:07 Speaker 4: Told myself I wasn't going to video these things and just kind of create a relationship.

33:11 Speaker 3: But then as time went on, I started videoing it. And then, like I.

33:15 Speaker 4: Said, with Harry, because what Harry and I experienced, and he was doing some CE five and he at the time was telling me that, so he was doing the CE five, but I'm more or less just look at the stars and then just kind of have that feeling of knowing when something's coming. And at the moment it was going like south to north or right to left in our vantage point. And at that point I tapped Harry. And when Harry was describing me to me, what he was saying is he was kind of remote viewing is inside this like craft that he described as like a blue oranges color and how he just he kind of called him a traditional alien.

33:55 Speaker 4: But Harry isn't really into the whole UFO topic, but he was mentioning to me that they basically said that Utah is basically.

34:02 Speaker 2: Kind of as a remote viewer.

34:05 Speaker 4: This is the first time he's ever done it, and so I don't know, you know, this is his story sharing it to me. I just got him to do the CE five contact for Stephen Greer because I wanted him to witness what I was experiencing, and so I thought it would be something for him, but for me, I was remote.

34:22 Speaker 2: VERI he had.

34:24 Speaker 1: He had what what you you would described as a remote viewing.

34:30 Speaker 4: Experience exactly exactly understood, and he describes it as, you know, he was seeing these uh you know, traditional aliens. And at that time he goes, you know, there's explaining to him that Utah, you know, it was a dangerous spot and they did, you know, we're worried about things. And then at that time Harry goes, well, would you be willing to reveal yourself? And coincidentally enough, at that moment, I see an orb going right to left, and so I tapped Harry on the shoulder. I'm like, look up, and so he kind of looks up out of his meditation phase and.

35:01 Speaker 3: Then we're seeing this orb.

35:03 Speaker 4: And the best way I described it is the orb was just getting brighter and brighter and brighter and brighter until it was so blinding. And I describe it as when Gandalf comes out of fangling for us in the two towers and everyone just oh, blinded by the light exactly.

35:18 Speaker 1: I'm gonna literally put that poip right there, now, you.

35:22 Speaker 3: Go for it.

35:23 Speaker 4: And then it dimmed out, dimmed out, dimmed out. I saw the orb still going right to left and then slowly dissipate. But Harry says that he was able to see it shoot out and go away, and so we ended up at you know, we're at my house, and then we end up describing because he's never experienced that before. And then he you know, he texted our buddies like, Yo, I'm not gonna I just we just witnessed the most surreal thing. And he wrote a did a voice memo on it. And so that was validating for me because I've seen those just like that getting brighter and brighter, and usually in those moments, it's their way of like kind of validating a message or a thought that I was having in my head or something important.

36:01 Speaker 2: Right.

36:01 Speaker 1: The power up right, like kind of similar to when they do the CE five protocols and then they ask for a power up and point their laser and like do like a little circle around it, and then it powers up and seems to like intensify and then get shrinked back down to its original size, right the power up.

36:25 Speaker 4: I'm not that great at this, Like I said, I'm not a remote viewer or anything like that.

36:30 Speaker 3: I'm just here experiencing defeat.

36:32 Speaker 2: So what color was the ORB that you saw?

36:35 Speaker 4: Was?

36:35 Speaker 2: It? Was it blue and yellow?

36:37 Speaker 3: Like?

36:39 Speaker 4: No, he was describing the inside of whatever this craft was, or blue or orange. I when I saw it, from what I recall, it was like a violet color I've seen so, I'll be honest, though I've seen so many orbs now that sometimes I forget which ones are which. But for that moment, I believe it was a kind of a violety color. But I was more in we were just. The thing that got to us was just how bright this ORB has gotten. Sorry, my dad's calling me. I got to decline that.

37:08 Speaker 3: And so for me, it was one.

37:10 Speaker 4: Of those experiences that I have had, those similar where the light gets so blinding it's kind of like unreal and to kind of going off with like the whole emotion and stuff like that. Can I tell you about like kind of the message or everything or did you still want to talk about this? No?

37:30 Speaker 2: I think so. So it's it's safe so we're on a timeline here.

37:36 Speaker 3: Yeah.

37:37 Speaker 1: So you you go from this very very vulnerable like first moment of contact, this initiation with the orbs, and then you start seeing them so frequently that you invite a friend and he.

37:56 Speaker 2: You you know, you you have done.

38:00 Speaker 1: A little research because you've come across Stephen Greyer, you know, C five, you do the protocols, have this experience, and.

38:11 Speaker 2: You're still seeing orbs daily. And as your friend, I want to ask, as your friend, maybe gone from skeptic to believer. Yeah.

38:22 Speaker 3: Yeah.

38:22 Speaker 4: And also he's trying to get me, you know, he's really pushing the Bible and stuff like that, and this being angelic and stuff like that.

38:30 Speaker 1: And so just I all I ask, and I'm saying this, and this is from the community as a whole. Don't eliminate the possibility.

38:45 Speaker 2: But don't label it. H don't don't label it unless.

38:50 Speaker 1: They and even if they tell you who they are, I wouldn't start labeling it.

38:54 Speaker 3: Yeah right, Yeah, I mean, I'm a science guy. I you know it.

39:00 Speaker 4: You know, there's one of these case reports, but you kind of want to get a whole picture on things. And I think we still you know, I think obviously the government in these private industries are more aware of what's going on. But for new experiences like myself, this is all kind of at face value.

39:15 Speaker 3: But we also get.

39:16 Speaker 4: To hear your guys's you know, communications with these other people in experiences and the guys who have been in the field to kind of get a better away.

39:24 Speaker 2: And I think, for me, did you know that there's so there's this thing in government.

39:31 Speaker 1: There's there's this what is known as the Collins Elite yep. And they are hardcore evangelical Christians. Yeah, and they are rumored to be the faction or at least at the head of the faction in government that basically tries to kill all funding for any of the science dific programs, any of the special access programs. That's why we're having trouble and it's gone so underground.

40:08 Speaker 2: Partly is because.

40:10 Speaker 1: There's this faction in government that thinks that we're tinkering with angels and demons.

40:15 Speaker 2: And I don't think it's fair to bring your faith.

40:19 Speaker 1: I think it's okay, it's it's totally fair to have faith, to be religious, but you cannot bring that in to the to a laboratory style setting. Not that this phenomenon can be put in a laboratory. But you know what I mean, m.

40:38 Speaker 4: Hm, no, I I totally agree. I mean Luel's on his Inminet chapter eight, Angels and Demons. He brings that whole conversation at the table right exactly.

40:48 Speaker 1: So continue with So your friend is is he's pushing the you know, he's pushing the angelic thing on you.

41:00 Speaker 1: There's no doubt Chris Bloodsoe and the Bloodsoe family rying included, they definitely come off thinking kind of the same thing.

41:12 Speaker 2: Do you. What scares me is.

41:19 Speaker 1: Tom DeLong and these people in the government. You know, Tom DeLong to the Stars Academy. I know it was involved with Alizondo obviously and all them, but you know.

41:32 Speaker 2: It's clear that Tom.

41:35 Speaker 1: Is also under the belief that we're dealing with either not maybe not angels and demons.

41:41 Speaker 4: But.

41:43 Speaker 1: Highly malevolent and highly benevolent. But then also you know neutral.

41:51 Speaker 4: My question to Tom too, with these types of things is how is that a national security problem? Why can't we get an understanding of why it is such h you know what it makes them elevolent? What doesn't and if they are an eleven, shouldn't we have the right to know being you know, citizens, and being concerned for our own safety if that's the truth, right, like.

42:11 Speaker 1: Some shadow being that could walk into your fucking house, right via the hitchhiker effect, you know. And you don't even know to prepare yourself for that kind of stuff because you're taught, and you're and you're you're groomed through life to ridicule that ship and then it ends up happening to you, and you think you're going crazy, and then they put you on Men's and then they dumb you down and uh, put you in the looney bin, or at least that's how it was.

42:42 Speaker 2: For a long time. Yeah, exactly.

42:47 Speaker 1: And you know another person, I'm having Doughty back on the show this month. Uh and you know, the Benowitz thing kills me and I know it kills him too.

42:58 Speaker 2: But let's get back. You're talking about a message that was sent. How is this message set?

43:07 Speaker 3: So I was actually listening to Matt Ford's podcast and you don't like him.

43:15 Speaker 2: I didn't say that.

43:16 Speaker 3: Hey, I listened to everyone's because.

43:18 Speaker 2: Here I didn't say that.

43:19 Speaker 3: Wait yeah, no, no, no, no, I hear here's the thing.

43:22 Speaker 4: You can sat with him lately Okay, okay, I just think, yeah, was it with the skin Walker thing?

43:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of had it out on that because I am.

43:35 Speaker 4: I hear it both ways because but I also think too, like, in order to get this type of thing with the you know, the private aerospace, you have to there what are the routes? But hopefully they have the you know, but we won't go down that route.

43:46 Speaker 2: Eminent domain cannot be included.

43:49 Speaker 1: And if it is included, it needs to be limited to people that have government contracts only, and government contracts specifically dealing with the advanced UH advance what anything you know that they would have to be tinkered with you. It can't be blanket because what all of a sudden, we just want to give control to the same government that's fucking lied to us for ninety years.

44:25 Speaker 2: We want to give them blanket.

44:26 Speaker 1: Control of just seizing all civilian research. If they wanted to.

44:34 Speaker 4: Ask you the question this, who do you who do you have more trust or faith in doing the right things?

44:39 Speaker 2: Civilian scientists?

44:41 Speaker 1: Okay, not the government. Okay, they lost their chance. Okay, they had ninety years. Okay, they chose a.

44:51 Speaker 4: Lot of the government with these private aerospace, don't they Also the reason how they get vetted is through knowing that they've gone through these governments. So it's like hand and hand and it's like but now they're civilian, but they've gone through it, and so kind of you looking at both perspectives of like you know they've been there.

45:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, but what really is at stake is eminent domain. They could and and why I'm specifically why why Brandon is specifically.

45:23 Speaker 2: Not he's not even the guy has.

45:25 Speaker 1: No time for active lobbying against the bill or eminent domain clause, but he had spoken out about it, saying and Jacques Valat has spoken up, spoke out about it, stood up at the Salt or Saul conference and said, like eminent domain, what does that mean? I have materials like could the government just come and take what I have?

45:52 Speaker 4: Right?

45:52 Speaker 2: And Brandon in Brandon's case, in Jacques Valai's case, and many other people like Gary Nolan in all their cases Avila, et cetera, so on and so forth.

46:03 Speaker 1: They they have all put money into it out of their own pockets. So and and skinwalk a ranch. What if the government just came and said we're claiming this land after he's invested.

46:17 Speaker 2: Not only you can see by the technology by the way, just.

46:22 Speaker 1: What he's what he's put on that ranch. Because I've had Chris Bartel on the show. What Bigelow had it set up as was not what we think. They barely had the surveillance cameras. It was very low tech, very very very A lot of Chris Bartell thinks a lot of the money from os app and that contract did not go to actually go to Skinwalker ranch.

46:53 Speaker 2: It went to something else. But we won't get into that here.

46:56 Speaker 1: But so the eminent domain thing is Brandon just doesn't want them to be able to come and take skin Corran and I think that's fair.

47:06 Speaker 3: I agree on that. And so you would you.

47:08 Speaker 1: Want them to be able to come take your videos and your evidence that you're compiling that you're having these experiences because you are all of a sudden on a on a watch list because you're having uh, prolonged contact with these supposed uh you know, malevolent beings. Well that could happen if if we start giving them blanket control.

47:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.

47:35 Speaker 4: I also think, so what's your thought process on who has u AP and all that sort. Do you have, like your suspicions on who's absolutely who is it? Okay, so these private aerospaces, So what's your solution for that?

47:51 Speaker 3: Then? Like, how do we we.

47:53 Speaker 2: Need to meet them? Mathway?

47:55 Speaker 1: I agree they need to listen. If we threaten handcuffs, no one's coming forward. Yep, shell game will be played.

48:06 Speaker 3: You have to think about the person on the other side of it. And I think we.

48:10 Speaker 2: Have to incentivize bringing humanity into the next level of technology, technologicals like clean energy. Right, we know it's there.

48:29 Speaker 1: We know people have built Stanley Myers has built a car that can run on water.

48:33 Speaker 2: Why the fodge is it? Why is that not being mass produced? Why is Come on?

48:44 Speaker 1: Guys, think for a second. Patents thousands per year get sees on alternative energy alone and they get slapped in a national security order, meaning the person can only then do business with the United.

49:05 Speaker 2: States government, no one else because if you do if.

49:09 Speaker 1: You if it's treason if you if you, if you do it with anyone else, because the patent has been seized under a national security order.

49:17 Speaker 2: Once they slapped out on it, it's as checkmate.

49:21 Speaker 1: So we need to be careful with with We're I'm willing to meet the military industrial complex halfway, but it needs to be half way, so I want to keep the story on you though, So.

49:37 Speaker 4: You actually made it perfectly because this message that I received, it was, uh, Matt Ford was talking about this.

49:43 Speaker 3: I think it was like a financial advisor.

49:46 Speaker 4: About you know that, and they were literally talking about like Northrore up and you know, in coming forward and all this stuff.

49:52 Speaker 3: And I remember going.

49:53 Speaker 4: Outside and I just so it's hard to describe it, but with these orbs something and like and internally this feeling and then these thoughts just came to my head about how we need to stop these with these creating of these weapons and war profiteering and wars, because we will only lead to our destruction. And then I talk about what happened to the Pyramids and why those civilizations failed, and for me, the message that hit me the most was I need to forgive like everything that had happened to me, my family or my friends and they know what they had done not and it hit me because I wasn't talking to my family or friends.

50:39 Speaker 4: And and then I felt this like you mentioned your prero the serendipitous, the most loving feeling, and at that point orbs were just coming everywhere. And then they were like I said, getting brighter and brighter and then dimmer and dimmer is why I was having these thoughts. And I remember going like this, like I love you guys, and I'm like, this is you know, this is the message that you guys have been trying to deliver because I haven't had anything like that at all, and so it was the most like I've never felt more loved in my life.

51:10 Speaker 4: On that experience. It was the most surreal thing I could ever describe. And so for me, like having that, I didn't know what to do except for text my buddy who had experienced these orbs with because it's like, what the hell am I supposed to do with this? And I texted him He's like, well, you know, because I was I knew a guy inn Atomica and he was in the government, Like should I warn.

51:32 Speaker 3: Him and tell him about this whole thing?

51:34 Speaker 4: And then he's like, now you'll think you're a koop and all that stuff. And it was interesting with this whole Chris Bledsoe experience was I didn't know what to do with this message, and these orbs will come into picture and it's like they know what you're looking at when you're having these thoughts or something like along those lines where I was driving home from a dog park in Tanner Park and I was looking at the windshield.

51:56 Speaker 3: I'm like, shuld, what should I be doing with this message?

51:59 Speaker 4: And I'm like, should I be reaching out to someone? I feel like I need to be reaching out to someone, And then this thought of Chris Bledsoe came in my mind and that's when an orb appeared. And this is from a distance, but you can obviously see it getting bright and then and then dim out and dim out and close up.

52:13 Speaker 3: I'm like, if that isn't a sign, I don't know what is.

52:17 Speaker 4: You know, with everything else, and I'm like, you know, I think they want me to reach out to Chris. And so I reached out to Chris, but I haven't heard fromhim about this whole thing. And before I reached out to him, though it was interesting.

52:29 Speaker 3: I sent you the.

52:31 Speaker 4: About what's his name, Russell Crowe when you talked about his experiences with the music and when he was at Rome and with his mother who had passed away at the time, and the Swiss Guards band were playing a specific song where they only do like it was classical music or something like that, and for some reason when they were getting a private tour because the Vatican offered it to him, and his mother had this relationship with her husband or with her husband who had passed away with Rome that she just had She just felt like he was present there.

53:10 Speaker 4: And when they went up these elevators and the Swiss guards and were playing, they noticed that they're the song that they were playing that they shouldn't be playing because it was like a Wednesday and it was only like church music and it was the Danny Boys, like the Irish song. And it was the most coincidental thing. And part of the reason why I shared that with you was before I was feeling the confidence to come forward because of everything that I had gone through and just seeing these things, I just knew that there was a stigma attached to it, and I just was very hesitant.

53:43 Speaker 4: And coincidentally enough, I'd be on my podcast and I love Hans Zimmer all the time, and when I'm having these thoughts in my head.

53:50 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Hans is a I'm again.

53:53 Speaker 1: I'm a huge, huge movie, movie buff and book fan, and Hans has done some of the most amazing scores. I'm also a filmmaker, so like, oh, yeah. I Oh my god, he is a genius.

54:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I I agree maybe.

54:17 Speaker 4: And something was telling me like, listen to Hans Zimmer's podcast, and so I was listening to it, and I was.

54:23 Speaker 2: Are you talking about Hans Zimmer, the musician.

54:27 Speaker 4: The the guy who makes all the soundtrack scores, right.

54:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, he has a podcast.

54:33 Speaker 4: No, no, sorry, I meant the song. Sorry, excuse me, I'm.

54:38 Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm sorry. I was like, away, he has a podcast.

54:43 Speaker 3: I'd want to listen to.

54:45 Speaker 4: But you know, I'm having these thoughts and I'm like, I hesitant and and I was like, I'm not going to do this. This is like too much for me. And then the song Coward would coincident a lineup and I'm like, what the hell?

54:56 Speaker 3: And I'm laughing because I'm like, that's kind of coincidental.

54:59 Speaker 4: And then I I was like later, I'm just like should I be doing this? Should I be doing this? And for some reason a coincidenta go no time for caution or TikTok or time, and I'm just like, wow, that's sure.

55:12 Speaker 2: Call the synchronicity.

55:13 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, no, no, it gets more, it gets more.

55:18 Speaker 4: And so I'm like, man, I should finally do this. So I ended up doing it and reaching out. But you know, it was funny because a big monsoon kind of came coincidentally right around the time that it's finally.

55:30 Speaker 3: Had the courage to send it. I was like, man, this is all coincidental, you know.

55:35 Speaker 4: But like a week later, I'm I'm at this point, I'm just like feeling that there's something more happening where I'm feeling like a presence and I can't describe it, and something's telling me to go to Tanner Park. So if you're a Salt Lake City native, it's a dog park, and I sent you a video of kind of like the canyon.

55:54 Speaker 2: So there's a.

55:54 Speaker 3: Couple of parts.

55:56 Speaker 4: So there's the trail side and then the other side there's a wooded area. So I'm bringing my dog and we're walking on the trail area and it just had stormed that Saturday, so Saturday evening, and so no one was really there, and you kind of know who the people are going and stuff like that. I'm a very observant person, but I'm just feeling like there's something, some type of presence, and so I look across the little creek a ways and in this wooded area where no one should be at because no one goes back.

56:24 Speaker 4: There is this woman who I had never seen, and she comes out of the wooded area.

56:29 Speaker 3: I'm like, where the hell did you come from?

56:31 Speaker 2: Coloring?

56:33 Speaker 4: She was wearing this like brown It was like kind of like an overalls, but it was like a brown cloth that was kind of there was various colors, but it was she was I don't know like how to describe it, like did.

56:48 Speaker 2: She seem out of place?

56:50 Speaker 4: Oh?

56:50 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. That's why I was like, where did you come from? And no, it gets weirder.

56:55 Speaker 1: But was she but no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't think you're hearing me. So let me rephrase that. Did she seem out of time?

57:09 Speaker 3: Was she?

57:10 Speaker 2: Was she interacting with the environment?

57:13 Speaker 4: She was literally looking at the plants as if like she was meticulously looking at them, and it was the most elegant thing.

57:21 Speaker 3: And I'm like, man, is this like was she there?

57:24 Speaker 2: There's some sort of echo?

57:26 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I will tell you.

57:28 Speaker 4: I'll tell you more to the story ghost. No, if she wasn't a ghost, I'll tell you this.

57:32 Speaker 3: I'll tell you this.

57:33 Speaker 4: So she's like grabbing these plants and like and touching them and looking at them.

57:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so she's playing around with them. And the thing that.

57:40 Speaker 4: Got me like, I was just like, what the hell was So I'm like because at this point, I'm just like, Okay, where did she come from?

57:48 Speaker 3: She's looking at these plants. She's just like mother nature, you know whatever.

57:52 Speaker 4: And then she goes and she kneels down and there's this like kind of burrow like rocky area, and I kid you not, I see mice scurring from their dens towards her. And I'm looking at her hands like she no, I'm serious, and I'm looking at her. I'm like, swear to me, I swear to God.

58:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, I swear to you man. Because so it gets weirder.

58:19 Speaker 2: There's some mice running towards her.

58:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're scurring to her because I see because I'm looking at her, she's kneeled down and they're coming towards.

58:29 Speaker 3: I'm like, I've never seen and this.

58:30 Speaker 2: Is what she's kneeling.

58:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's kneeled down.

58:33 Speaker 4: She's not fully kneeled, but she's like squatted down towards them. And I'm like, so at this point, focusing engaged. I'm like, I've never seen that. And so then she comes over the tunnel where the water seeps out of and now onto the side where everyone's normally at. And at this point I'm fixated, and I'm like I and something's telling me you should interact with her and talk with her. And so she walks by. I have my dog, o Fin. She doesn't have a dog, by the way. Usually at Tanner Park usually have dogs, And so she's walking past me and and something's just telling me you should talk with her.

59:07 Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, So I start walking towards her, and then like the Hans Zimmer thing, a song comes up and it's like like a dog chasing cars, and I'm laughing at myself. I'm like, we're in a dog park, and am I chase? And I'm like, am I the dog? And I'm like I was like in my head, I'm like what the hell? So I go up to her and at this point, I'm like, are you like an animal? Whisper? And with perfect English, she had like the bluest eyes. I like, I've seen light blue eyes, you know, And she kind of she didn't seem like she belonged, but as I knew, like, I'm like and she goes, oh, you mean the foles, you know, And I was like, yeah, I didn't, so I had.

59:48 Speaker 3: To google what a fol was. It's like a meadow mouse.

59:50 Speaker 4: And I'm like yeah, and I'm like, you know, She's like, oh, I'm like do you do that often?

59:56 Speaker 3: She goes, No, that does.

59:57 Speaker 4: Only happen like a couple of times in the brush it off. I'm like, now, no, no, I've never seen anything like that. And then she goes on and look at my dog Fin and she goes, he just seems so happy. And I'm like thinking to myself, I'm like, yeah, you probably understand that, like you're probably you know, reading his mind or no, no.

1:00:15 Speaker 2: She's probably dude.

1:00:19 Speaker 1: She's probably some EmPATH of sort, maybe healer, like you. Did she have like an aura about her because she said she had the blue eyes?

1:00:37 Speaker 2: Yeah?

1:00:38 Speaker 3: I was gravitated. I was.

1:00:40 Speaker 2: Did you gravit? Yeah?

1:00:41 Speaker 3: I was. That's why it felt like.

1:00:44 Speaker 4: I don't know necessarily if it was like an aura, but I was gravitated.

1:00:48 Speaker 3: I was.

1:00:48 Speaker 2: You're compelled to go.

1:00:50 Speaker 1: I mean, not many people after seeing someone Neil and have what looks like mice run.

1:00:57 Speaker 3: Oh no, they were a mouse. I saw them yeah, you val. She's like, oh, you mean the bulls, Like yeah, I like.

1:01:04 Speaker 1: Right, but she even mentions them in a in a in a different in what what were those specifically voles?

1:01:11 Speaker 2: Voles?

1:01:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, my battery is about to die one second. Sorry, I need to grab this. Sorry.

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1:03:13 Speaker 4: So, so we're talking about this.

1:03:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the.

1:03:20 Speaker 1: So she references them by their true name as well. Yeah, so she doesn't just call moses or mice. She calls them by the like you had to literally go look it up.

1:03:36 Speaker 2: You didn't know the word. And she she was able to almost whisper.

1:03:41 Speaker 1: And then she's talking about your dog's feelings, and it seems, I don't know you came into contact with.

1:03:50 Speaker 2: I think I wouldn't be surprised if you see that person again.

1:03:56 Speaker 4: I you know I didn't have Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised either. And it was interesting you know, because then she goes on to say, like because you didn't have a dog, She's like, oh, I just like to come here to see the dogs.

1:04:07 Speaker 3: I don't have one for myself. I was like, okay, like I.

1:04:10 Speaker 4: Could see that, but it the it gets more like so I was explaining that day, I just was having just this feeling, and so I go home and I take my dog to the park. But I live next to Liberty Park, and so something just told me like you need to go to Liberty Park and stuff.

1:04:34 Speaker 3: Like that, and.

1:04:36 Speaker 4: I put my dog inside and I got these like meta glasses to you know, record so when I'm seeing these orbs, it's a better visual. But I ended up like trying them last night and they kind of suck. So I need, I mean, I need your equipment here, Tyler to help me out with. But I ended up getting these meta glasses. So I been wearing them and listening to music and throughout that whole time, you know, with the engagement of the like the Hans Zimmer playlist and stuff like that.

1:05:10 Speaker 3: Something. So I'm and walking towards Liberty Park.

1:05:15 Speaker 4: And something just kind of just like you know what I need to ask, like, have you been like you know, with these orbs and stuff, and I'm just thinking.

1:05:23 Speaker 3: Like, have you been interacting?

1:05:24 Speaker 4: And you know, you've been trying to encourage me to come out with this message? And all that sorts through these it feels like through these songs. And then you know at Tanner Park, you know, with that woman like a dog chasing cars, I'm like, are you interacting with me through like Spotify what I've been listening to? And I'm not thinking I'm gonna get a you know, I'm thinking, you know, this is all just coincidental. And within seconds after having that thought, and I know no one else had this capability because this is all internally, I get a song on the playlist and I've never heard before, and so I'm like, what is this?

1:05:59 Speaker 4: And so I turn it around and the title of the song is god sena theme. No, like I was again again just dropped.

1:06:16 Speaker 1: I didn't swear on the Total Disclosure.

1:06:20 Speaker 4: I'm getting I'm getting a tattoos of nick. I need to tell you more and more of what happened here you there.

1:06:34 Speaker 2: So you got to swear on the Total Disclosure.

1:06:37 Speaker 4: Bible, the the whole the Total Disclosure Bible. I swear my friends I've told this story.

1:06:44 Speaker 3: Oh no, you should.

1:06:46 Speaker 2: Start screenshoting that stuff and and videos of.

1:06:50 Speaker 4: You hearing this. I was so overwhelmed of what was happening and my heart, like my because I was thinking about the pain that I had gone through this past year of what had happened to me, and so at this point, I'm just having this conversation in my head.

1:07:06 Speaker 3: I'm like, if this is God, why did you do this to me?

1:07:11 Speaker 4: Like I had the girlfriend, I had the love of my life here with me, like I wanted to marry her, and you know, with my family, I pushed them away and all the sorts and all the traumas that had happened to me. You know, why did you do this? And I kid you not. This song kicks in and the next song of it is titled Great Sacrifices by Daniel Sierra Alitzi or Alitso, and I'm just at this point like bawling, just being like I didn't deserve this, Like I wanted to marry Sherlah, like that's my most important person in my life, and like yeah, yeah, I was like I lost her because of this whole thing.

1:07:54 Speaker 3: And the next.

1:07:55 Speaker 4: Song of it was Great Sacrifice by Clinton in shorter h and So at that point, I'm up on the top of the hill Liberty Park by myself, and I don't have my glasses on because I'm just so overwhelmed of what I had just witnessed and experience.

1:08:17 Speaker 2: Because I'm overwhelmed just listening.

1:08:19 Speaker 4: No one else had what I had in like, no one I Those were only in my internal thoughts.

1:08:25 Speaker 3: There's no fucking way no one would be to be able to.

1:08:29 Speaker 4: Have done any of that and tie it up coincidentally, no, no, no, oh, I listen, listen, man.

1:08:36 Speaker 1: If there's one thing I and one thousand percent back you up on is me and my girlfriend. We haven't happened to us on a daily I would say, the synchronicity.

1:09:03 Speaker 1: It's to a point where it's almost alarming. So I understand, dude, what you're doing is you're you're putting so right. If we look at consciousness and we think about it like this, and some of my past experiences have led me to believe that this may be kind of along the lines of a theory, a theory but.

1:09:37 Speaker 2: Almost one that that explains.

1:09:42 Speaker 1: So I think our consciousness is like not because it's not the source, right it's the receiver. So it's so the signal, right, if we want to look at it like a radio, right or radio broadcasts, the signal is always there. You can smash the radio, break it.

1:10:08 Speaker 2: Apart, the signal, it's still there, right. So what you're doing is you're putting your consciousness out and you're getting feedback. You're interacting and you're getting the feedback.

1:10:28 Speaker 1: So and it's been happening to us too, and we're asking for it. So again, you know I and and listen, I haven't I haven't talked about this.

1:10:39 Speaker 2: I only I'm only talking.

1:10:40 Speaker 1: About it to back you up and saying that you're not the route you're going. Like, I know it's hard for people to believe, but.

1:10:51 Speaker 4: It's really I know what I saw and I have one hundred percent to this day.

1:10:58 Speaker 3: And the thing that I was explaining is when I put the glasses on.

1:11:01 Speaker 4: Do you know that video I.

1:11:02 Speaker 3: Sent you, you know on the hill?

1:11:05 Speaker 2: Yep?

1:11:05 Speaker 4: So I was thinking of Sheila and everything it had happened, and and then something told me to put on those glasses and so I'm by myself looking because I thought they were going to tell me like an org was coming. Because that's generally sometimes what will happen. So I start, they said, you know, so I start recording it, and that's when some random stranger, you know, ninth nine.

1:11:27 Speaker 2: Saying, oh my god. Now when I put it into context.

1:11:35 Speaker 4: Yeap, oh my god, yep.

1:11:40 Speaker 1: Now and oh my god, the contcause remember when I I texted you back, I was like, what am I looking for you?

1:11:51 Speaker 2: What am I getting out of this?

1:11:53 Speaker 3: Yeah?

1:11:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, the context of what he says clear as day.

1:12:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, he says something about females.

1:12:07 Speaker 2: It was.

1:12:09 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it was. It was a bit vulgar in its nature. But he says something along the lines of don't date them, They're just gonna cheat on you or something like that. And wow, the context of that now seems way different.

1:12:28 Speaker 4: And that was right when everything was That's what I'm saying. It's the most surreal experience. I I, you know, was having a hard time putting in the words like what I had just witnessed.

1:12:41 Speaker 3: Because.

1:12:43 Speaker 1: With that one now I can feel that, Yeah, I can feel that because I genuinely was like, I watched the whole video and I was like, what is this? And honestly, I was like, what the fuck did I just watch like, I don't understand what the meaning of that was.

1:12:58 Speaker 2: I was like, was that was I looking for something in like an orb or something like?

1:13:02 Speaker 3: That's that's when I first thought.

1:13:04 Speaker 2: A lot of text of it and oh my god. Wow.

1:13:09 Speaker 1: So I guess I'll have to play that one right here. But it's like one fourteen. Yeah, but yeah, so I listen. I just I want to ask you something.

1:13:26 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think we've because you've told the stories now.

1:13:31 Speaker 4: But I got I got a few.

1:13:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

1:13:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, But.

1:13:38 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bait you here. I'm gonna give you an an ended question. So what is contact? I've always wondered, right, what is contact? Uh with another species? What that would look like? What kind of form that would take? Now,

1:14:01 Speaker 1: it could take physical, right, We've heard of others that are like colepathic. It seems like yours is through these sightings but also.

1:14:13 Speaker 2: Through these synchronicities. So what do you think you're dealing with here?

1:14:18 Speaker 3: I know something is interacting me.

1:14:20 Speaker 4: I can tell you with the orbs, Like late at night, I was looking out in the stars and when I finally had this feeling that you know, being a pharmacist is very valid.

1:14:33 Speaker 3: Sorry, my dog's here very validating for me.

1:14:38 Speaker 4: But then I'm like, is this whole going through this trauma of everything that I had dealt with as well as just these new experiences with these orbs, is this is my purpose? And I have it on my Instagram of this light flickering and it was similar to Chris Bledsoe's but it starts, you know, and as soon as I had that thought, it starts blinking and and blinking and blinking and blinking, and that like fifty seconds in the video you see something come.

1:15:03 Speaker 3: In right to the right of it.

1:15:05 Speaker 4: And it was like one of those moments where it's like, this is why I was put on Earth is to bring up this topic. And you know, understand that I am forgiving the people who have done things to me, and I'm not blaming my family or friends or anything like that, but it's coming through for forgiveness and bringing people together and loving each other. And instead of like you know, wars and war profit doing that, we have to come together. We're at an existential crisis, is what I was getting at. And so it's through those contacts where I have it on my most recent Instagram too, of just like them, like responding to me like conscientiously, like they are responding, and when you say contact, I think it could.

1:15:44 Speaker 3: Be through a matter of ways, you know, but clearly.

1:15:47 Speaker 4: Conscientiousness is something that we just really haven't looked at, you know, like the Schrodinger effect.

1:15:53 Speaker 1: People are so afraid, scientists are so afraid to able on consciousness like you.

1:16:06 Speaker 3: I think so true. I think right.

1:16:07 Speaker 2: Now, right now, if you're a scientist who's trying to get funding for consciousness, and if it's not a secret government program, no, they will laugh you the go out of the room.

1:16:24 Speaker 4: That's the saddest thing because people like myself who are civilians are experiencing this. Shouldn't we be looking at this as a scientific approach.

1:16:32 Speaker 1: No, because they said they've determined that, you know, because it's a giant boys club, right, that's what science has become, is mainstream science at least. Uh, it's it's a boys club of people who don't want to challenge the status quote. They don't want to challenge a narrative because they don't want to be the one who's ulstracized and isn't getting their funding.

1:16:57 Speaker 2: They're not the one, they're the ones.

1:16:59 Speaker 1: They're that are they want to stay right inside the lines of what's acceptable. And even if they ponder these things, they don't do it at work.

1:17:15 Speaker 3: Right, I can.

1:17:17 Speaker 4: Here's the thing to think that.

1:17:19 Speaker 1: They don't think about what everyone else thinks about, like religion, you know, like what happens after we die? Because that's religion in my mind, is it equals the question of why we're here?

1:17:34 Speaker 2: Why what happens to us after death?

1:17:37 Speaker 1: Those are the existential questions that religion was built to try to make people comfortable with.

1:17:44 Speaker 2: But I think there's such a such a.

1:17:48 Speaker 1: Bigger story than than even what our current religions could even fathom. I think they all have a little piece of the puzzle, and I think it's us being factionalized.

1:18:01 Speaker 2: That's the fucking problem. If we all step.

1:18:04 Speaker 1: Back, dissolve border lines on that fake ass map, and started working together, I know it would not be overnight. This sounds like, you know, but if we can all magically just get along, literally magically get along, there would be no stopping the human race. And think about it, like, and that's where religion can come in handy, because then we have stories like all right.

1:18:37 Speaker 2: Do you need an example? Everyone, Well, the Tower of babble Man got too close to God. God struck man down, divided their languages, split them up so they could not convene and build themselves back up. Think about it, Think about it? Right, So there are clearly truths just to to legend, we just have to separate the wheat from the chaff. If you have to understand what it means to you, not to Joe, not to Billy, but to you and Andy, what does it mean to you? What is what is what is happening to you?

1:19:26 Speaker 2: Meaning to you?

1:19:30 Speaker 4: You know, I think there is a purpose for why I'm here, and they're helping me guide or help guiding me. And they're also I don't know, I think for me like I have nothing but sheer positivity towards this whole, you know, these orbs and all that sorts, and they seem to be, you know, obviously knowing every move that I'm making of some sort. So I know for a fact that they know well at advance what I'm going to be doing. And I can't it's hard to like kind of describe, but from my experiences with everything, they know everything that you're going to be doing before you do it, and they also understand so it's.

1:20:09 Speaker 2: Almost so it's almost I don't mean to I'm so sorry I cut you off. Keep going.

1:20:13 Speaker 3: No, No, it's fine if you want to clarify.

1:20:15 Speaker 1: No, no, and you.

1:20:17 Speaker 4: Need to tell me to shut the hell up and talk about it.

1:20:19 Speaker 2: No.

1:20:19 Speaker 1: No, I have a bad habit of interrupting, and I need to be better with that. So I'm calling myself out right now. I think I've done it to you like twice, h And I apologize.

1:20:32 Speaker 3: I haven't noticed, so don't worry about it.

1:20:35 Speaker 2: So, but that's how I get.

1:20:36 Speaker 1: I get in like discussion mode, like it's like it's and that's what I think you know is different about my show than others, Like I fully get into a conversation with someone. I don't just have questions and then all right, answer question, answer question, answer right.

1:20:56 Speaker 2: It's like a it's a back and forth.

1:20:59 Speaker 3: Yeah mm hmm.

1:21:01 Speaker 2: So I appreciate it. Again, it is supposed to be about you.

1:21:06 Speaker 4: No, I want to have a discussion because I've been having these internal like experiences as well.

1:21:12 Speaker 2: As sometimes it's good to flesh it out with somebody.

1:21:14 Speaker 3: Yeah.

1:21:14 Speaker 4: No, that's why I kind of wanted to talk to you too, to hear your perspective.

1:21:18 Speaker 3: I mean you've been experienced. I've been trying to reach out.

1:21:20 Speaker 4: I you know, I I appreciate you because I've been reaching out to multiple people to try to get this out or the story be told, but also kind of getting perspective, and you were the one person who actually responded. So I want to thank you for that because if if it's without you, I don't think anyone would really be hearing what I've been experiencing because for some reason, I haven't been been getting for people.

1:21:46 Speaker 1: People in this community tend to get high on their

1:21:50 Speaker 1: horses and they don't want to they kind of I don't know, it's it's weird. But unless you unless you're like military, you're just part of the community, you know what I mean, You're just another experiencer. So as hard as that is to say, here, that's the way they see it, right, Like, unless you're a military and you have like flear footage and or like, build your case up, dude, that's what we're doing.

1:22:28 Speaker 2: That's what we're doing. We're gonna build your case up.

1:22:31 Speaker 3: Come come to you.

1:22:32 Speaker 4: I want to show you, like what I've been experiencing, that's.

1:22:36 Speaker 1: Continue continue because we only have we we only have.

1:22:41 Speaker 2: So much time left. I do have to get going. But so pick one last story to get to now and if you'd like, we can do a part two maybe uh in like a month or so.

1:23:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.

1:23:05 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of like because.

1:23:08 Speaker 2: The so what do you yeah? So so look or I'll feed you so again, I want to go back to this. Are you what do you think you're so.

1:23:24 Speaker 1: We talk about Stephen Greer thinks that everything is seems to be nice, right they if they're getting here and they're inter dimensional, well they've advanced past.

1:23:41 Speaker 2: War and and they're they're always.

1:23:43 Speaker 1: Going to be benevolent or or on your side in your favor. I don't think that. I don't think that's the way we should look at this. Because even if there's a neutral party, right one that literally doesn't care about our existence, it doesn't impact them. They don't like Indifference also doesn't mean malevolent, So there's a difference between that. There's a fine line. But you know, indifference can be looked at as almost a threat because it's like, all right, well if you're not with us, you're against us, and but that's dangerous in a military we can't look at this like a military.

1:24:37 Speaker 1: Would we need to look at this like a speakcies would yeah.

1:24:43 Speaker 4: Like you know what would Corl now said, like, you know, everyone has resources and all that sorts, and.

1:24:49 Speaker 1: You know, right, because we're I hate when people make the comparison, Oh, we're just like ants to them.

1:24:56 Speaker 2: No we're not. No, we're not.

1:24:58 Speaker 1: We're human beings. We're we we are, We've our world.

1:25:03 Speaker 2: We've manipulated it. We have done things that clearly are rare in the solar system.

1:25:10 Speaker 3: But is it rare to them? Like have they've already done that?

1:25:13 Speaker 1: You're right, right, but but but I'm saying, there's no way they look at us like ants, right the way we look at ants as like that would mean like stepping on us, like on their way to work, Like.

1:25:26 Speaker 4: I mean, that's not clearly interacting with us conscientiously of some sorts and so.

1:25:30 Speaker 1: But yeah, but clearly that's not the case. They're not stepping on us on there on our way to work. You know, they're they're not. You know this, We're still here having the conversation. They haven't wiped us off the map yet, We're we're still essentially here. So I'm gonna go with that. There's probably some good, some bad, and some different.

1:25:54 Speaker 2: And that's just the way it is.

1:25:58 Speaker 3: Do you think they're walking among us?

1:25:59 Speaker 2: Yes, I do too.

1:26:02 Speaker 3: I'll tell you a story. Well I don't. I don't know.

1:26:04 Speaker 2: Your story earlier is proof of that.

1:26:06 Speaker 4: No, this is a different one.

1:26:08 Speaker 2: I'm saying your story earlier.

1:26:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know in this so Richard Dolan the reason why I was thinking about this. Yeah, so he talks about the story, you know, like Western Pennsylvania at the church and you know, there's the woman, the really model looking blonde, and you know, male going to the church and they're all, you know, dressed elegantly and you know, all that sorts, but they didn't seem to know what they were doing in the church adequately. So just kind of for context there. So I I love hooping. If I if we're recording, i'd be hooping right now.

1:26:43 Speaker 4: I hoop like basically every day. So, oh, the Celtics won the championship this year.

1:26:51 Speaker 1: Yeah I I I used to be like a big into sports.

1:26:58 Speaker 2: Basketball never won.

1:27:01 Speaker 1: But you know, I uh hooping, I've never like I thought, you mean hula hoopin.

1:27:07 Speaker 4: Oh, gotcha, gotcha?

1:27:09 Speaker 3: Gotcha.

1:27:09 Speaker 4: So let me give you context of this.

1:27:12 Speaker 3: So playing yeah, okay.

1:27:17 Speaker 4: So I was playing at the rec center and I played with a bunch of regulars. So a guy who I had played at the murals with, if you know the context of like shooting for teams, so you make one, you go on one team, yeah, and alternating it, right, So give me perspective. So I make it, and then my buddy makes it, and so a couple of guys that we'd never seen before start shooting and they look normal, normal white kids you know in Utah, of course, and he shoots the shot, and usually if you played basketball enough, you know like, okay, what's a guy who's never played basketball versus what who someone who has?

1:27:49 Speaker 4: And he has a good form on his free throw and he sinks it. And so at the time I'm like, okay, go to my buddies team, and my buddy's like encouraging him, like hey, come over here, and he's literally looking I in contact my buddy and we're like, hey, you know all the you know, physical body language, you know, and as as well as the verbal communications like you're supposed to be on his team. Literally turns around, gets back in the line and we're like, what the hell did that just happen. That was so weird, like, and we're laughing at each other, like does the guy not like you?

1:28:18 Speaker 4: Like what's going on here? And so then his other buddy that they look very identical, he shoots his shot, does this exact same thing, sinks it, and since his buddy didn't go on the team, we're like, okay, now you're gonna go on my other but my buddy's team now since he didn't want to make it, And so we do the exact same thing of like, hey, you're just supposed to be over there, looks at him eye contact wise, and just gets back in the line, and we're like, what the hell, And we're so my buddy and I are laughing because I'm like, he must not like you he wants to be on my team or something, and we're like, yeah, that's so weird.

1:28:47 Speaker 4: So at this point, now everyone's alternating teams that there's more and more and now they're back in at the front of the line shooting free throws. But now there's more people on each team. And but this time, you know, if he makes it, he's still going to be on buddies team. So I'm thinking to myself, Oh, he's gonna miss the shot for sure because he doesn't want to be on the team. So he sinks it does the exact same thing. And at this point there's more people, so there's more of this like social interaction.

1:29:11 Speaker 4: They're like, oh, you're on our team, and you know what he does. He looks at him and goes, oh, so that's what we're supposed to be doing. What and so like what the fuck? So we're laughing and my buddy on the other because I've told him the story, h or because Ben he goes, I have never seen that happen in my life, and I'm laughing because I'm like, I haven't either. So his other buddy gets now in line and he's still and he can make it and he can go on the same team basically, and he shoots it and he kind of gives the nod approval.

1:29:43 Speaker 4: Oh that's what we're doing. It's like, what the hell is going on? And these guys, so we're we started to play and we're they're making the shots or they they're they're playing like like fundamental basketball, so you know what they're doing, but they're just doing some.

1:29:58 Speaker 3: Weird things where you're like, what's going on?

1:30:00 Speaker 4: Like for instance, we're checking the ball up and like the guy is now thinking like he's on defense when he should be on offense or something along those lines, something like really just like around yeah, but he knew he So this is where it's like it's like, okay, yeah, but he can shoot. But he can shoot, but he can here's the thing. He could shoot and he can dribble, and he could pass more competently than someone who's never played before.

1:30:24 Speaker 3: So it's like the.

1:30:26 Speaker 4: The disconnect was there of like, Okay, you can shoot past play, but you're just doing some weird things that don't make any sense. And it came a point where my other buddy who's on his team, Jack goes, when he's talking about he's like, have you ever played basketball before in your life? And he goes, oh, yeah, all the time, you know. And so we're like, huh, that's weird. So came a point where he turns the ball over. Now I'm on the opposite side of the court, okay, and I'm thinking of this whole Richard Dolan story of you know, aliens among us and stuff, and so he's on the opposite side, and so I'm on the corner and I point to my buddy aut and that guy is an alien and there's like a very soft tone like so it's only me and him could hear it?

1:31:07 Speaker 3: And they're on the opposite side of the court.

1:31:09 Speaker 4: And I kid you not. He sprints out the gym and goes and leaves, doesn't pick up his bag or nothing. And I I look at my buddy Jack because Jack was on the other side. He's like, I don't know, he just got bug eyed and left. And I was like that he's such, he was weird and we haven't seen him.

1:31:29 Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

1:31:33 Speaker 4: So he there's no way he would have heard me in in the middle of the pickup game, literally without grabbing his his phone, his you know nothing, no bag, nothing, literally walks out of the gym and leaves. And I was watching it because I kind of felt like, uh, did I just like, dude, I have I swear on the total Why do you think I'm feel so confident coming forward about this stuff?

1:32:02 Speaker 1: Dude, you're like a main character in a fucking short film I want to make. I think that's what we're gonna do. Uh, this is this is insanity. If what you're saying is is what.

1:32:16 Speaker 3: You can call it.

1:32:17 Speaker 4: Texta jag or and then you can talk about Rob.

1:32:22 Speaker 4: They didn't he so god, Ben and Jagg weren't there, like when I was pointing to Alic when I said that, but they knew the exact time he walked out.

1:32:31 Speaker 3: And he's like, dude, that was weird. And I told him the story and they're like, yeah.

1:32:34 Speaker 2: Like yeah, but well we'll talk like but okay, I'm I so that is that is? That is really odd.

1:32:45 Speaker 4: I felt bad. I was like if did I like say, you know.

1:32:48 Speaker 2: It's like did it echo? And is there any chance that it echoed?

1:32:52 Speaker 3: There's no way. There's no way. He was on a loud jim.

1:32:54 Speaker 4: It's a lowed jim and They're on the opposite side of the court and I'm in the corner and I literally like, leno where and I'm like that guys, And then he walks out and and even if he.

1:33:03 Speaker 3: Heard that, why would you leave? Who cares?

1:33:05 Speaker 4: Like what's what?

1:33:05 Speaker 3: Are you running out of the gym.

1:33:07 Speaker 2: Because he got exposed? You fucking figured it out? I don't know.

1:33:13 Speaker 1: Frank yes, superhering and he was literally just you know, like that, yeah, I think.

1:33:27 Speaker 2: I don't know. I I I definitely want to have another conversation with you. Uh, so we'll do a part two on this, maybe sooner than.

1:33:39 Speaker 1: A month, because I would like to I there's a lot more I want to talk about.

1:33:47 Speaker 4: But you want to come out and just see these things with Well.

1:33:52 Speaker 1: I don't have it like that yet where I can just pick up and go, but I will plan something a court, but uh, we will talk. But how so, it's it is it's safe to say that. So you're seeing orbs and this is just a recap for the audience. So your name is Andy tom to Naga, Andy tom Naga. You're from Salt Lake, Utah, Salt Lake City, and you're seeing orbs on a consistent basis and some sort of interaction is happening on a weird conscious level through technology.

1:34:46 Speaker 2: Oh god, I do it?

1:34:47 Speaker 4: Came you said technology? And there it is there.

1:34:51 Speaker 2: It is failing.

1:34:53 Speaker 1: But I think you have a wild story, dude, and I would love to dig into it further.

1:35:00 Speaker 2: Where can people follow you and and what you're what you're doing, what's your.

1:35:03 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not trying to do this whole like social.

1:35:05 Speaker 1: No do I do it every single for every single person, just so people can follow along.

1:35:13 Speaker 4: My Instagram is just my first and last name.

1:35:15 Speaker 3: Let me check.

1:35:16 Speaker 4: But I posted some of the orbs. I can post more.

1:35:19 Speaker 1: I'll put I'll put all the links in the description below for anyone who wants to follow him.

1:35:24 Speaker 2: But wow, you you definitely have uh an an an interesting interesting uh experience your story and I think I want to hear more. So ah wow, what a show, perfect show man. Thank you.

1:35:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I appreciate you letting me share everything that I've gone through because.

1:35:50 Speaker 1: I don't think we've gotten through everything. There's a lot more to unpack, but I think there's some some cool things that we can talk about.

1:35:59 Speaker 2: So with that, big said, guys.

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1:36:47 Speaker 2: But thank you Andy for.

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