POST ELECTION REPORT- The Pathway Forward For UFO Disclosure- With Ex DOD Intel Officerr.

0:04 Speaker 1: All right, guys, welcome to Total Disclosure.

0:16 Speaker 2: My name's Tie, and we're back for a amazing, amazing show tonight. Guys, we're doing a kind of a post election deal. I figured I was going to do the show last night, but most people said that we wouldn't find out until probably after midnight, and going off of the last election, I figured there, right. It turns out that they didn't call the race. And again, we're doing a special live podcast of Total Disclosure tonight. So we witnessed kind of history in the making. As America steps into a new dot ja dump.

0:56 Speaker 2: Elected as the forty seventh President of the United States, the White House, the Senate, and the House will soon stand under one banner. And this is what the people of this great nation have chosen through their votes. Listen, whether we're filled with optimism, concern, or something in between, there's no denying that this is a time, and it has been coming for a while where we need unity as a country, as a world, this nation standing together instead of red or blue. As a human race, division is what the powers that we want distracted for fighting each other.

1:40 Speaker 2: Who won't be asking the right questions because we won't have time to we find ourselves in a world that feels more divided than ever. But this moment, right here and now, is an opportunity, a chance to come together despite our differences and focus on the common ground that binds us. America has always been strongest united, and today we need strength more than ever. We need to reach across the aisle, across ideologies, and across perspectives to build something bigger Boulder together. Tonight, I'm joined by former the IDEA official, uh, miss ANGELIEH.

2:21 Speaker 2: I brought it in pretty quickly there, not to to throw you off, but I'm super happy you could join me tonight. I wanted to bring somebody in who's kind of been in the world of DC and in that the machine that is the government. And uh, obviously, I don't think a lot of people were expecting the results to be just what they were.

2:49 Speaker 3: Oh they weren't.

2:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't think that people were expecting such a landslide. But it seems that Trump, uh, to his credit, him and JD. Vance, they did do a lot of these podcasts like Rogan, like Sean Ryan, like you know, they really got into these three four hour conversations that allowed people to really like understand the policies, whereas Kamala, Yeah, she did the door knocking and she did her rallies, but it was all just I just think it was too little, too late.

3:30 Speaker 3: I would agree with that. And I think that that the American people in general are concerned about the economy. They're concerned about the price of food, the price of real estate, the fact that they can't afford not to have two jobs. There are a lot of really big issues that I think think people are looking for a significant change, specifically targeting that, and and and unfortunately, it seems that some have felt that Vice President Harris did not bring the enthusiasm for the right thing that was the biggest concern, because that's straight strikes right at that those basic needs in you know, in the in the hierarchy of needs pyramid, and and it strikes a chord for millions of Americans million too many, too many millions of Americans.

4:39 Speaker 2: So yeah, and and I and and and I don't when I I do. When I started toldal disclosure, I told myself I never pigeonholed myself to a subject. And obviously you know UFO's disclosure, And and that's my angle, you know, that's that's that'll be always be my main focus. But I mean, I think this election, you know, the last podcast I did before, well, the two podcasts ago I was with Tim Burchett and This Day and Age. I mean, you just can't get away from politics. And I mean we're we're at a place where people from both sides of the aisle I recognized the need for transparency as a desire to know whether we are in fact alone in the universe.

5:25 Speaker 2: And it's been mainly bipartisan. If only more issues could be like this, you know. I think that's what we should be working towards, is a more bipartisan approach. I just and the UAP topic can be an example that that really sets a precedent. There's hearings set on November thirteenth. I'll be I'll be going. I booked a ticket and I was invited down by mister Burchett, and I'm super excited. What do you think with the results of the election, what do you think the implications are going forward for UFO hearings the topic of U A P and UH non human intelligence.

6:17 Speaker 3: Well, I think that the chances just increased that he may be looser lipped even than he has been in the past. You know, the precedents has already been set that he will reveal and share with allies and allied interests alike, some very highly classified intelligence that includes names of US assets and sources and and methodologies. And so

7:06 Speaker 3: I think that there's likely to be two kinds of responses that I think that we can expect the intelligence community to be scrambling for exactly how they're going to deal with such a loose cannon and how they are going to craft his specific daily intelligence briefs to prevent him from ever being in a position where he could put in jeopardy an asset or a source or rite other.

7:45 Speaker 2: Things, right, and and and and I definitely understand that that that he is a very unconventional person. Uh he is, uh, you know, he's not. He said some things, He's done things I wouldn't you know, call him, I wouldn't call him a saint, right, But I what I want to see from this is instead of more in you know, throat grabbing, I think we can all finally understand that listen, four more years. Listen, he can't be president ever again, ever again. You know, So that's what's what is fundamentally great about this country is that in four years, voters will have another opportunity to either keep a Republican or choose a Democrat, whoever that may be at the time.

8:45 Speaker 2: God, I hope it's not Joe Biden. I don't know, just making a little joke. It won't be.

8:51 Speaker 3: But and we also we often overlook the power of and importance of the midterm elections that will be coming up in two years. That can sway many hearts and minds and highly affect local and state government and can have a pretty strong effect on who is representing you out in DC. So you know, we do. We have it set up that way for a purpose. So that's it's really a check on what we think of the administration. So if the American people who had just elected President Trump into the White House again began to lose faith in him, then we'll see a turnover in those people who are up in midterm elections and re election campaigns.

9:46 Speaker 3: So it's always a signal and and so we'll just have to wait a couple of years to see.

9:53 Speaker 2: So yeah, and I think I of course, disclosure is obviously a huge topic, right but it does definitely sit below what's going on in Russia, Ukraine, what's going on in the Middle East. So those things do need to be addressed. And and you know, in your experience, uh, Trump has said that, you know, he's gonna end it on day one. That is such an exaggeration, it's it's it's it's absurd to think about. But that again, that's like you kind of just got to understand that that's the guy he is. He's going to say that kind of stuff.

10:37 Speaker 2: You know, he's not a politician clearly, Uh, you're right, he does say things a little loosely. Do you think that? I mean, because I think if you think about it, we're we're one bad miscalculation away from something really bad happening.

10:57 Speaker 3: Something really bad is already happening, it's just not happening in the United States in a way that we recognize it.

11:03 Speaker 2: Yet, right, and we are a little bit sheltered in that sense.

11:07 Speaker 3: Absolutely.

11:08 Speaker 2: Even driving to the store today to pick up my medication, you know, it's a simple run for me and I'm listening to a podcast, you know, and it dawns on me because of what they're talking about that you know, I could be in Ukraine right now, and I could or I could be in Israel or Palestine or you know, you know wherever bombs are going off, and that is a daily experience. And we in the United States have never been invaded. Obviously, we've had attacks, and you know, the siloing of information is what gets us into trouble.

11:51 Speaker 2: It seems it happened with Pearl Harbor. It happened at nine to eleven. I mean with a president like Donald Trump, of course, the intelligence community is going to uh, you know, hide things from him because he is a little bit loose lipped. We can't really afford that kind of siloing of information. We need more transparency. So how do you do that with a gridlock?

12:13 Speaker 3: Well, we do have the Senate like Committee on Intelligence, and I think that this is a perfect opportunity for them to really rise to the occasion and to fulfill their obligation, the obligations of their mission. And so you know, we can we can, I guess we can have checks and balances on them as as we see fit as citizens too, to specifically inquire regarding what whatever what. I've forgot the topic that we were talking about up for one moment because I know we're talking about UAP and then but we're talking about the Senate Select Committee.

13:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, how do how do we move? How do no? No, no, don't worry about it. I do it literally all the time. And people, you know what sucks is I okay, So you know rich podcasters like you know, uh uh Sean Ryan. They have producers and they have people that click all the buttons for them, and I get roasted in the comments about like kicking my phone or uh, you know, like a clicking a button. Uh. I'm trying to tell them, like, you know, you have to engage and then you know, say I wanted to move on jolly to to full screen, you know, I have to click buttons to do that.

13:47 Speaker 2: So some of us, some of us aren't Sean Ryan. We don't have a crew working behind us. So I gotta move my hands and I try to stay engaged, and sometimes I lose my train of thought. It's it's a human thing.

14:00 Speaker 3: But I don't have any excuse.

14:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think so, let's because I've kind of lost it now too. But national security, how do we separate national security from disclosure? Because yes, that's right?

14:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, well there, so there the the Senates, like Committee on Intelligence, is responsible for the oversight and the appropriations of funding for intelligence for activities and programs, and this would be one of those opportunities for them to rise to the occasion of of making sure that the next budget is taking into account the activities that we are hoping we will see just closed during these upcoming hearings that we have. I believe it's just next week, nine days, nine days, that's right.

15:10 Speaker 2: I can't wait, I really truly can't. I mean, I don't know if you've heard, but there's a lot of talk about who may be testifying. Oh yeah, yeah, so you know, mark your calendars, everybody.

15:25 Speaker 3: Who is your irresponsible guess? Do you have anyone?

15:32 Speaker 2: I I do. I think one of my guesses is Tim Tim Goddet, Admiral Rear Admiral Tim god At. He was recently featured in a Darcy Ware film about fast movers. Uh. He he seems like a guy that if you got him on the stand, uh, he'd be able to portray to the world in a very serious manner, in a well spoken you know, he's a very well spoken guy. I think he hid. Yes, what I'm hoping they don't do is pull Louel Zondo on the stand. That's I'm really, I really and why is that. I'm not against Loueli Zondo, And I want to make that very clear.

16:26 Speaker 2: I just think that for the topic of u AP right.

16:30 Speaker 3: Now, you're looking for more, you want more.

16:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's anymore lou Lou I think did his job. And whether you know, whether you agree with him or not, whether you agree with his means and methods, sources, whatever, that's you know to to to. That's one thing. But I don't think he I don't think putting him out on the stand it's going to move the ball we need. I mean, when I talk to Tim last, he says, you know, he wants like we wanted to get this thing where we're rolling out material onto the floor right, And I can't say that. I can't say I disagree because stories are only going to get us so far right.

17:21 Speaker 3: I feel like, what is more likely to happen than there being a full government public disclosure, I could see it instead being held within the chambers of the House and Senate. So in a case like that, the again, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence would have direct involvement as would the House Committee. So it's escaping me right now.

17:59 Speaker 2: But both househover Site Committee and both will be so. So now the Senate is going to be controlled by the Republicans, So a new Senate majority leader. Is that how that works?

18:12 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, that's what that's will be coming up. It'll be interesting to see. Now does a shift in dynamic effects the topic of disclosure? And I think that if we're going to get any kind of disclosure, like I said, I think that it will be tied up in those those committees that can have the clearances to have some of the information. And again it would be on need to know. It wouldn't necessarily just because there's a program doesn't mean that everyone in the Senate and Congress have the right to have access to that information.

18:58 Speaker 3: They have the right to have access to a limited amount of information that tells them what they need to know and has to be truthful. Okay, So it's very highly vouched for and it has to it has to be truthful, but it also has to protect any of our national security interests, and right foods are our intelligence interests.

19:27 Speaker 2: So let me ask you something, if in your expert opinion, as as someone who you know, took an oath for our national security right a couple of times, Yeah, and and and and I I I was going to backtrack. We can, we can go that way in a minute. But as someone who's taken a national security oath. They talk about these four K videos that we have. Now, when the tic TAC video came out, it had all these numbers and stuff on sides that you see, And I mean, isn't there a way that we can just kind of scrub all that stuff and release just the video, maybe even if it makes it hard to distinguish the background.

20:14 Speaker 2: I know that, you know, there's some places that we can't be Maybe those videos do get kept. But if there's something that is just looking at the sky, you can't tell where it is, there's no possible way to make that connection. If you know we're somewhere we're not supposed to be, and uh, you know we don't. Is there a way to get these videos out in a manner that doesn't violate national security?

20:38 Speaker 3: My my suspicion without knowing the details of how they captured this video is no, you're not going to ever see it. And that is because even though you think that it doesn't reveal anything. It absolutely does reveal quite a bit. It reveals capability, it reveals location. You think that they that they can't figure it out from the sky, but you'd be very surprised at how quickly and easily they can figure it out from the sky. So if if this is classified technology that they've captured this video on, then they will will not declassify.

21:20 Speaker 2: That right that that It's it's frustrating, it's it's so frustrating because you know, if if yeah, because you know, we know and and most of these like really really good cases where you know, crashes happen. You know, the military is there within seconds, minutes or whatever. It's always it's always that part of the story. Well, and then the the and then there were guns pointed at me all of a sudden, like you know, how did they get to these crashes so quick? Well, they're monitoring the air at all times, and I think that we now have the capability of seeing these things.

21:58 Speaker 2: Oh god, did my camera just blow out?

22:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's cute.

22:04 Speaker 2: What Oh no, I hope my camera didn't just because that was at one hundred percent. That's my this is my good camera. But but but so I'll work on fixing that. But sure, I'm gonna switch to the web camera for a second. Damn. See, that's the stuff that makes you lose your focus. Absolutely, that's it ruins my whole train of thought and where I was going with this. So when like, because when the gimbal video comes out,

22:40 Speaker 2: it it changes. It comes out with that twenty seventeen New York Times article, right, so that that those videos plus the article telling of the program in the United States Act, you know, spending money. Albeit they got that the names mixed up. I shouldn't have called it a tip and it should have been named us up at the time. But again, you know, nickels and dimes. That was a moment in history. But people are now asking because of Luel's ondo and his book Imminent. He talks about how they have this four K video of craft and it's like, you know that one of if they if they show that in a congressional hearing and they, honest to God, say to the American people, listen, we really don't know what that is.

23:34 Speaker 2: Can't figure it out. Uh, And you know, uh, we're we're probably not alone. We don't know. Is that really? Did they really think that that's going to to cause this much chaos.

23:51 Speaker 3: Well, I do think that they think that disclosure will cause a certain amount of chaos, But I think that there are different levels of discolo closure, and that we are seeing it being rolled slowly out like a carpet, you know, it really is, and it's it's been a slower, slower process than people who are close to the topic and the field of study would like. But for the vast majority of Americans, this is not something that they're thinking about on a daily basis. This is a new reality that is coming into their life, rather than it being something that is left to science fiction on the movie screens.

24:38 Speaker 3: You know, they're they're seeing it play out in tiktoks and and you know, upcoming hearings and wondering what's going to be said. So it's a process I think of changing the hearts and minds of the American people and kind of getting them used to it so that it's not a catastrophic type of event, you know, catastrophic disclosure like we call it, where everything just comes tumbling down. If if we can be a little bit more patient, uh, you know, it was my understanding that the presidential elections were were predicted to have been highly debated for the UFO n UAP topic and for NHI and and and that didn't happen.

25:32 Speaker 3: And I watched it not happen live, you know, because we it was an expectation, there was a plan, uh that was that was set in place, and I you know, I'm not privy to what we're wrong, but as you can see, they really did not want this to become a presidential topic. So that, you know, that kind of gives you an idea of where, you know, the powers that be that hold the keys, where they stand right now on disclosure and how much they're willing to give at a time, and we might just have to take it in smaller bites for a while.

26:18 Speaker 3: Does that answer your question? Oh, I can't hear you.

26:23 Speaker 2: It does. Sorry I muted myself when I was trying to fix the camera. No, it does answer the question absolutely. And oh, I think a lot of people. I think a lot of people are feeling a little bit overwhelmed. I think I think this presidential election, it was a pivotal moment in our history and it may go down as either a turning point it could you know, we can look back and say, ah, I got through it and we we came out better, or it could be a lot worse, right, And I think that is what people's thoughts are, that the un the unknown scares people, uh, not knowing and not having control, right, not having control what's happening in Ukraine and Russia, not having control with Iran, and not having in control with the Middle East and what they're doing.

27:33 Speaker 2: So you know, honestly, I think people take solace in the idea that if we started hurtling nukes around that aliens would drop in and save the day. Well, I hate to break it, guys, but I don't think so. I really don't. I or at least we need we needn't We should never fall on that idea, and that's right and say that that you know, mommy and Daddy will get us out of it, out of trouble.

28:08 Speaker 3: Absolutely, No, Actually, it's this is a perfect opportunity for the American people to remember the power of their vote and the power of their voice. And this is an obvious signal to the old state that there is a a change that is desired by the majority of American voters and that they felt that they needed a very drastic change in order for the improvements to be made. And so there's some energy. You know, We've got some kinetic movement at this moment, and so we need to keep that going. And we need to keep having community halls and public discussions, and we need to continue to have conversations with our elected officials so that, you know, we don't just fall into the silence of the holidays when when we have such great energy right now to address a lot of these topics.

29:09 Speaker 3: So, you know, I think that I'm sorry, what.

29:13 Speaker 2: Was that I said. That's a good point. I'm sorry.

29:15 Speaker 3: No, it's okay. I I did mean to wax on, so.

29:21 Speaker 2: But I'll do it.

29:24 Speaker 3: That.

29:25 Speaker 2: It's no, and and and then you're absolutely right, like I said, I think in the face of adversity and and and obstacle, Uh, the United States is always better united, right, And the people don't see that. Yes, okay, the president has a lot of power. The president, you know, negotiates the at the at the big the big Boy table with the rest of the world's leaders, and and and and interacts with NATO on our behalf. But there's a checks and bounces system for a reason. That's why I've always loved this, this, this, this country.

30:08 Speaker 2: And you know that's why I had such a problem with with people relating him to the German leader of World War two, is because like that used to mean something, but now it doesn't because it's just been thrown around by the mainstream medium. Yes, yes, yeah, and and and it's a dangerous game because they did try to I mean, he said he I remember when he said that he would not try to persecute Hillary Clinton because it would look bad for the country, and then they turned around and tried to do that to him.

30:51 Speaker 2: I think the Democrats made several moves that were that were very, very consequential to what is happening today, and that is they did they need they're gonna need to gain the trust of of the the people because right now they they're they're I can assume at an all time low as as far as people who are you know, just just true blue all the way through. And and that's it. But I mean, with with UFOs, with with everything that's on the table, nuclear war, world War three, right, we're facing all these things all at once.

31:38 Speaker 2: What is your gut telling you about the world going forward? Like what what what do you think is in store for us, it seems because it just seems like whoever, let's say, and I hate to cut you off here because I just asked, but but Whoever's if we're in the matrix, if we're in some sort of matrix. I was telling my girlfriend the other day, who are the writers that they got? Because they wrote us, they wrote a hell of a show. Because this thing is it's got drama, it's got it's got everything. I mean, it is a wild time to be alive.

32:23 Speaker 2: Elon's catching rockets with robots.

32:26 Speaker 3: I mean, did you see the picture of him and his sink in the Oval office?

32:31 Speaker 2: Yeah? It makes not like truly, it's just I mean, it's bizarro land, that's what it seems like. And the world's on fire. It's flooding it literally, there's bombs going off. It's it's getting biblical. What what's going on?

32:53 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's my understanding that we all signed up for some fireworks, and we're kind of seeing our collective, our collective consciousness playing out its manifestation. Now, you know, we have a we have ignored and left unaddressed some atrocities that have been happening around the world for many decades, and now we're in a situation where we're we're trying to keep a world war from entering the Western hemisphere, you know. So I don't mean to just go on and on. I have forgotten your question because I do that.

33:48 Speaker 2: That's all right, and you can just here feel free to just go on and on. That's all I know. I just I literally just go on and on and on. People get so sick of me talked.

34:00 Speaker 3: Oh see, I don't want a hog.

34:03 Speaker 2: No. No, actually they come here usually for the guests, not for me. They hate you for some reason. Well, no, no, but you know, I did want to talk about the hearings a little bit more. What are the chances that you can attend?

34:22 Speaker 3: I'm trying, You're trying very hard. I've been working on it. There's actually a group of us who were have been attempting to see how many seats we could get, and we've all come up with zero. And it's been a little disheartening. Yeah, because it are all great people, and I think it would have been fun for the community and it would have been a great experience for us. I guess I shouldn't be talking about it in the past. Tense we still have nine more days, so who knows what the future holds. I don't know.

35:03 Speaker 3: I would love to be there, but we'll see.

35:07 Speaker 2: Well even if you you know, because they need to put the and I've addressed this too, because I send requests to each member that's on going to be on the panel for five to ten minutes of an interview, because you know, and I've called their offices. I'm still scheduling and setting everything up. But in every request I send, I always say that I think they need to put these hearings in a larger room. They keep seeing that there's a huge demand for people that want to come out and witness this firsthand, Like they want to be in the room, not an overflow room, not whatever room.

35:53 Speaker 2: They want to be in the room. So whatever that takes, they need to figure that out. But I know it's going to be the revelations that people have been talking about. And I don't know. Did you hear the term immaculate constellation.

36:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been trying to understand. So my understanding is that this came up as a response to the New York Times article.

36:31 Speaker 2: Ye, I don't know. I don't know that. So immaculate constellation is. It came out in a recent article by Michael Schellenberger, and it is. He is saying his source who is potentially one of these people that may be testifying in front of Congress come the thirteenth and will find out maybe who it is. Sure, but that is a parent the name of a legacy UAP crash retrieval program. Now it does add up when you think about it, because and I told this to mister Burchett. I told this to if you if if you've ever talked to Diana Posoka, she has this contact that she talks about in her book America, Uh American Cosmic.

37:25 Speaker 2: His name's she. She gives them a pseudonym as Tyler. I think we can all deduce who it is by now, but I don't say the name out loud, because again, I'm not that person. So this person, Tyler, goes through this amazing experience. He's part of NASA, like mission control, like very deep in NASA, and you know, he talks about all the esoteric stuff, you know, down from the mission names to some of the rituals that were performed, really weird stuff in connection to launches, and and then you know, you go, you go all the way back to Operation paper Clip, you know, bring forgiving Werner von Braun and and the fucking atrocities that he that that I mean, I know that it's it's it's it's gonna be a hard position under Adolf Hitler.

38:19 Speaker 2: I can't imagine anybody wanting to say no to that guy without understanding that your whole family is going to be murdered if you if you say no, especially if you're someone like Werner von Brown, who is the only person who can make the Saturn five rocket, right if if because because if I can't have the technology, nobody can, and he's going to kill you. So you know, you have like this little tiny shred of like I kind of feel for you, Werner, but also twenty thousand slaves died in the making of that, you know, Jewish slaves.

38:55 Speaker 2: We can't not like that. That is a real fact, right And I think I think Operation paper Clip to me, uh, you know, it's it's like dirty, it's like playing with dirty money. But uh whatever, it launched the Modern Days space program. But Tyler talks about these crashes of UFOs. Apparently this that this this team that he's knowledgeable of, called them gifts. Now, what do you what do you hear when you hear immaculate installation a gift from the heavens? Maybe, I mean it kind of correlates, right, so, and and it would make it would fill in a lot of gaps.

39:46 Speaker 2: I it's it's I've been going down this really weird rabbit hole lately with this whole thing. Because if if Tyler is is, and tyler Is is reputable, uh, her her source is reputable, Gary Nolan uh and her have voached and and and we pretty much know who this guy is and can look at his credentials and he is who he says he is, and he's my God. But like I said, he says, they call these UFO crashes gifts and immaculate constellation. You know it has ties to biblical met and has that a biblical kind of feel to it.

40:23 Speaker 2: And then it you know, constellation from the skies. Right. So again we have this like Eaven meeting Earth right, this exchange. And I can't help but notice the trend is that does that sound you know weird? Do you?

40:44 Speaker 3: Oh? It all sounds incredibly weird, I imagine, I mean, doesn't it? I mean, it's crazy, But but does that. Does that mean that it isn't true? Not necessarily. I don't think so weird.

41:04 Speaker 2: I think the evidence I mean I personally think the evidence all like kind of like what Mitchell Kak who says, uh, the burden of proof is kind of shifted to the non believer at this point, the person who doesn't think there's a phenomena, because we have our evidence, overwhelming evidence that there is at least something going on that we do not understand how it does what it does, and the government is as albeit come out and confirm this. I don't so from like, you know, it's just about making the jump from saying we don't know what it is too it's definitely not us, meaning it's non human right and it's almost like they're leading us to water and just you know, expecting us to drink, but not realizing that we're still apparently pretty stupid.

42:06 Speaker 3: I don't think that. I think that we're pretty skittish and we're prone to being you know, I'd say we're fear prone, you know, a tendency to be fearful of things that we're very unfamiliar with. And you know, I'm starting to question whether or not the phenomena as a whole, the non human intelligence as a whole. It really may mimic be it may I don't want to say mimic, but I guess I am saying that that they have avatars or appear in forms that are mimicking other things. So rather than than being an eight foot mantis, was it mimicking an eight foot mantis?

43:13 Speaker 3: And you know, does that make sense.

43:17 Speaker 2: To give your mind because even though it's an eight foot mantis, that still registers in your head is an eight foot mantis you could put words to. You put words to it. What you can't put words to is a ball of light that you know. It comes into the room, that's right, you know, and and then sucks you up your something you know, does you know, brings you does whatever it does?

43:43 Speaker 3: You know, that's right? Or you just you have missing time and you're really not sure exactly what's going on. You just kind of feel foggy brained and right.

43:51 Speaker 2: Actually, the case of John Yost comes up to me a lot in this scenario of at least screen memory, because he saw he always told everyone that he saw Ultra Man, and that's a cartoon character. But it wasn't until he was regressed that he found it was a mantis being or interesting. So it almost seems like it's a double double one there. Yeah, it's it's layered itself that even in regression, it's still masked.

44:24 Speaker 3: Yeah there's an avatar. Yeah, there's still there's still a representation of some depiction that they've chosen, yes, to reflect, I guess, and that.

44:38 Speaker 2: That could also that could also explain the classic arcle archetypal alien. You know, we understand it now, we we we all recognize it pretty much uniformly across the world. You put up a picture of a big head and big black eyes like we got. Oh, I have it right there. You put that picture up and no matter what language or what person you're talking to, they know exactly that you're talking about alien gray, the archetypal alien. So, you know, could it that? I think that that is something that is absolutely Why wouldn't it be at play at least to some degree with some of these beings And imagine I'm okay if you were in a room right now with the beings whatever beings.

45:37 Speaker 2: I know, I know you've been talking about your story lately, and there's been some changes at least from your hindsight. I don't. I don't want to go too far into it because I just I know you've already done it, and I don't feel the nest need to. But if you were in the room with with this the you know, these non human intelligence, what would be one of the first questions you asked? Now, if you could.

46:11 Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say, is that I don't remember being in a state of mind where I was really asking anything. I was. I was in a state of receiving constantly, so I was on the receiving end. They were definitely on the active end, so they were physically working on my body, and they were speaking to me at the same time and trying to like awaken my consciousness and explaining the situation. And I don't know if I was ever intended to remember it in the way that I did, but I have extremely tactile memories of of being not only in their presence, but of details that I know.

47:18 Speaker 3: I know what I experienced, that I went into a tunnel and it wasn't you know. I don't think that I can ever be convinced that it was all all a some kind of concoction, some kind of side effect, you know, definitely not just cannabis.

47:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I I this is cannabis. This is uh ras and oil. I've been I've smoked it the entire time that we've been on the show. Not once, not once, have I entered a tunnel right.

47:59 Speaker 3: Now, exactly. And see that's what and there are just there are details and I'm not I'm not saying that the property owners we are going to go down this tunnel just a little bit, you know, but the I'm not saying that the property owners did anything you know, wrong, uh necessarily, you know, I don't. I just happened to remember a tunnel being on their property where I know today there is no tunnel. Right, I'm going to be spending the rest of my life trying to understand how I could have experienced, how how I could have actually experienced in a physical reality being in that tunnel, and yet where I am today there is not a tunnel.

49:00 Speaker 2: I know.

49:01 Speaker 3: I know the rest of my life I will be looking for that scientific explanation that I can present.

49:10 Speaker 2: Well, I know of one way.

49:13 Speaker 3: Okay, I know I.

49:14 Speaker 2: Know one way, and I it's not I'm not bringing drugs into this, but I'm bringing the idea into it that okay, because the only time and actually, you know what, this is a synchronicity which I am going to write in my synchronicity log that I have now. Yes, I've been logging all my synchronicities, and I swear, I swear to whatever is out there. It's like I'm having a conversation with something. The answers when you look at them in a row, it's like a story is being told to me. It's so weird. Well, this is one of them.

49:59 Speaker 2: This is very weird because now when I did d MT, and I'm not saying that you did d MT, but what I'm saying is the effects of a chemical like d MT gives pretty much uniformly to everyone who smokes it a similar experience, and it is like you're in a tunnel. It's like you're in a tunnel and you meet I met a being who had no face, and there many of people call them machine elves.

50:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seens.

50:44 Speaker 2: So I guess what I'm saying is, what if these beings have the we always hear about them altering our state of consciousness in some form or fashion, in some sort of experience what if they were able? Why why is it such a stretch to think that that your experience wasn't at it was when I did d MT, it was more real than real, right, And and the being I meant, I'm convinced that that being is a literal ethereal being of some sort that is on a level above right. So it's just who's to say that you didn't just gain access and just perceive it the way that you perceived it because of your preset environment, conditions and mindset.

51:47 Speaker 3: Right, Okay, okay, let me here's a good question for you, then, ty, What were you doing your actual physical body? What was it doing while you were on d MT?

51:58 Speaker 2: I was like, so me, I had we brought it was me and two others and we we we went into a field and we created a triangle and we each had our yeah and uh we we we kind of counted down, all took a hit. And before you even come off the pipe, before you exhale, boom, you're not here this microphone, you're not here anymore. I did it look like.

52:31 Speaker 3: A normal field still or did it look like a different place?

52:35 Speaker 2: Oh? It was a different place, I mean, but but it was. But it was familiar enough it was, so I all I'm saying is because d mt IS is naturally occurring in the body. And you know, if if these ets or or if they wanted away and needed a way to communicate with us, if that's how they tap into our brain right and open it up, you know somehow that wouldn't shock me. Gary Nolan's doing work that says that there's a part of the brain specifically that in experiencers seems to be different. So you know, is that the part that you know.

53:20 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm putting together pieces of a puzzle. I'm still not quite there. But it wouldn't surprise me if shamanist, because Shaman's talk about ayahuasca and and the journeys that you go on, the mystical journeys, what you experienced sounds like one of those experiences, just framed in a little bit different of a way. And and I don't know how you accessed it the way you did, but I mean, I cannot sit here in this chair, having seen the things I've seen and done the things I've done, tell you that you didn't see what you.

54:02 Speaker 3: Saw, That's right, right, So so you think I could have would I have been physically able to be walking around having a conversation.

54:13 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, yes, absolutely, yeah because I actually thought that, Yeah, I I I when I walked up to the being, I actually kind of thought he was a dick in my head. I was thinking because because and no words were spoken my mind, you, no words were spoken, but I got the feeling that I wasn't supposed to be there, like I left my body untethered, like uh, like I had shot out of it astrally or something. And you know, maybe maybe demon possession. I don't know if it's you know, is that how it works?

54:52 Speaker 2: You know, you're gone for a couple of seconds, do a d MT goddamn demon takes your body because it's soulless. I don't know, I don't know how. No, I'm I'm joking with that one, okay. But it felt when I when I looked at whatever it was, because it didn't have a face, it was just a shot shot a dark hole, uh, and it was like I was looking into the abyss. It gave me the feeling that I was out of place. I shouldn't be there now at this time. And then I took maybe I remember thinking, wow, really like like that's it, and taking one, two, three, maybe four or five steps and then I snapped back into my body and kind of snapped forward and back, and then I'm back in this reality if you want to call it that.

55:46 Speaker 2: It was the most wild experience I've ever had. And I did it four more times to see if it was real, and it's real.

55:56 Speaker 3: That's amazing.

55:58 Speaker 2: So all I'm saying is is, well.

56:01 Speaker 3: I would like to do d MT so that I can compare and and then you know, and I'll tell you honestly, you know, I have the opportunity to do that. I will, I will compare the two.

56:13 Speaker 2: Uh, well, we could talk off here, I can, I can, you know, I can help you out there. Yeah, but all the advertisers literally just pulled out No. But I think it's something that you know, you know what it was on the ballot in Massachusetts legalizing mushrooms psilocybin. I mean, who would have thought on the same ballot I'm that I'm I'm getting rid of the MCST, I have the option to get rid of standardized testing in schools. I also have to vote for the president. And then there's a question about legalizing psilocybin.

56:55 Speaker 2: If you would have told me that when I was twenty, I would have laughed so fucking hard at the thought of even narrow one being legal, let alone psilocybin. It didn't pass because the law was very, very vague. But they're gonna tighten that one up, and they're gonna they're gonna get that one through. Yeah, so they'll tight I even looked at the law and was like, uh, guys, I think we left some words out of this one. This is really vague, right, Like this is a little bit too vague. So it's in a but it was.

57:30 Speaker 2: It's definitely a crazy election, and uh yes, I just I just want people to to to realize that it's not the end of the world, not not not yet, not yet. And I know that you'll spend the rest of your life searching France is just like I will.

57:52 Speaker 3: But again, make no mistake, Tim, I'm gonna interject real quick since you have said that again, I still have communication with the beings. So this wasn't a situation where I returned to the property, did not locate a tunnel and stopped having conscious communication with the beings. No, that still exists, and you know, so I'm I have a lot on my plate that I'm that I'm trying to deal with, And yeah, I guess I don't. I don't really know what to say it, you know. I I reflect back on it often, and I'm I'm definitely on a search for myself to understand what my relationship is and why I have this relationship, and and that includes sorting through different things that they have said to me.

59:03 Speaker 3: And you know, I don't I may repeat what they say, but I don't always ingest it, you know, I don't always make it a part of me. Sometimes I just share what they say. Not everything is meant for me anyway.

59:28 Speaker 3: And so, you know, it's a complicated relationship. It's not that they never deceived me. They did tell me that there was a possibility that when I returned that they would not be there, and I was very fearful of that as time went on. And I don't know why that would be. I don't. That's another thing that I'm searching for answers regarding is, uh, why would it matter this artificial construct of time passing that you know, we experience in a linear way, what would change over that period of time that would cause you know, one one year it's there, and then another year it isn't like what what occurs during that period of time?

1:00:31 Speaker 3: How? And I mean spatially, you know, and and maybe even all the way down to the quantum level, like what's what's happening?

1:00:43 Speaker 3: And I have some really wild and irresponsible theories that I'm exploring.

1:00:49 Speaker 2: I Ah, I have a story that I haven't shared, I don't think ever.

1:00:56 Speaker 3: Ever, Oh please child, And.

1:01:01 Speaker 2: I guess maybe I didn't share it because it does sound so kind of wild, But I have so. I grew up next to a haunted road. A lot of people know that. Listen to the show that I'm making a movie that connects that haunted road to Salem, Massachusetts and to the Bridgewater Triangle. And this is the larger mystery of playing yes good luck on so on that road. That the legend is that there were nuns and they were sneaking out of the convent on the road or

1:01:42 Speaker 2: the retreat and they were practic There was a group of them practicing uh Satanic magic or rituals. They ended up getting caught and they were hanged for I mean, it's the ultimate treason. You're married to God and you're caught, you know, practicing. Yeah, it's I mean, it's the ultimate crime. So the church made an example of them, but their ghosts are said to haunt the road to this day. I was, now, I've as soon as I caught wind of this legend because it is something that is talked about in my or.

1:02:25 Speaker 2: It was talked about in my house for many many years. You know, every uh, every uh family meet up like Thanksgiving, you know, my grandfather would bring it up or something. Someone would bring it up. But we lived. That's how that's how close we lived to like literally I could hit it throw at the tennis ball. Now I also had my UFO sighting outside that house, so that now that area is very interesting. But me and two other friends who can confirm it. And while I was working on the film, a lot of these memories came back to me about how many times I actually went into the woods looking and exploring and trying to find truth to whatever.

1:03:20 Speaker 2: And my friend Nick Santorre, who now lives in Maine, I was talking to him about the movie and he goes, remember when we and he brings up this story and I'm like, no, oh, my god, I do. So we were exploring the woods and we came upon this house and it was decrepit, Like the house was decrepit. It was like a shot. Yeah, it was like a shock. It was so out of place. It was in the middle, there was no place being where it was. The trees that were next to it were like on top of it. It was all the everything was bent around and we went inside of it.

1:04:05 Speaker 2: And I have no I have no memory of this cab. This this cabin he does, I don't, and but I know what he's talking about. That that's my question. And that's why for me, that's just a story, right because I remember he's like, yeah, that's the night that we jumped out in front of uh. We jumped out of the woods, you know, because we wanted to scare our other buddy, Joey, who had gone and got the car and he was coming around the corner. We jumped out to to freak him out. But he's he explains the whole night and we went in.

1:04:45 Speaker 2: I've went back. There's no cabin.

1:04:48 Speaker 3: Mmh. That's very strange. And you're certain that you came back to the same place.

1:04:54 Speaker 2: There's only so much woods I've scoured. I've scoured, so

1:05:03 Speaker 2: I don't know I don't find I don't find your story as crazy as people think. Yeah, because again I've I've I've myself had some pretty odd things happened. And this one hit me home because I didn't remember.

1:05:18 Speaker 3: It until he brought it up.

1:05:21 Speaker 2: Until he brought it up.

1:05:23 Speaker 3: And You're like, oh my god, that's right. I completely forgot about that.

1:05:27 Speaker 2: All of it started coming together, and I'm like, yeah, so and then and and that's not the only memory that's come back. Other memories have come back, uh, not good ones, not good ones like you know my mom, No, just like I came home to my I probas shouldn't say it's on air, but I was very young and I walked in on my mother because my father had been sent to prison. And I walked in on my mom and she was trying to exit the world. And I was only maybe eight or nine ten. I don't I don't really remember, but I repressed that memory.

1:06:19 Speaker 2: And I'm a sponsor of the show Bio Mind. They have this amazing, amazing nootropic. It's a nine and one supplement. Ever since I've been taking that and changing my diet, these memories are coming back, and they come back in droves, but they're not always good. They're not always they're shit like that, like baggage that that because I was an alcoholic. It's kind of all starting to make sense, is what I'm is what I'm saying. You know the path that I was put on.

1:06:54 Speaker 3: And you have to unravel that. You've got to unravel those memories and and face up to it and detach from it, you know, take that energy back from it so that so that you don't have to carry it forward essentially.

1:07:12 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and I I love my mother and I love you know, I I I was, I was over overwhelmed, but remember that, you know it was in her room when she passed away that I saw her leave, essentially leave this world as an orb. Yeah, like I and I was. I watched this happen with my own eyes, and I am the biggest skeptic. I mean, my girlfriend knows. Anyone who was on this recent movie with me knows. We went to all these paranormal places like Salem, you know, and like it doesn't phaze me. If if it's some if something isn't living up to what I think it, you know, it's cracked up to be like I tell it.

1:08:03 Speaker 2: For what it is, and there were nice no but but you know, there were people on the team that were like, oh, lean into it. I was like, no, no, that's not what we're about. Like I'm telling the truth, So I am not quick. But I saw, you know, I I saw this just ball of like like I said, it looked like it looked like light was bending around it almost, but it like if you've ever looked down a long highway in the in the heat like that that distortion. It was like a ball of that and it it just left the room.

1:08:44 Speaker 2: And then when I looked back, she was gone. Her essence was no longer into her body. What color? What do you mean color?

1:08:56 Speaker 3: Was there a color, a shine to it or anything?

1:09:00 Speaker 2: Uh No, because like I said, it looked like lightly

1:09:05 Speaker 2: bending around it. But but again I think that I think my mind perceived whatever. It might not have been the fullest representation of it, but it was something that like I still have I I'm having trouble putting the words together now and I've told this story a million times. It's but it was a clear orb. It was perfectly circular, about maybe two like two handfuls.

1:09:38 Speaker 3: Okay, sure, okay, And.

1:09:42 Speaker 2: I you know, I when one moment she was there that then the thing went out the window. Then when I looked back, she was gone. Now one plus one equals too. I saw what I saw. I don't know, I just you know, I might you know what you saw? I just now. But but she set me on a quest because at that time I was doubting myself. You know, I didn't want to do the podcast anymore. But it was at that moment that total disclosure was born. And you know, I've been and that's leading me to d C on the thirteenth, which I'll be documenting everything because I feel that's, you know, I've found my My role for disclosure is this outlet.

1:10:35 Speaker 2: This is what I can contribute. So I found my place. Have you And that's to the audience, not to you, but to the audience. If you're in this community, stop just talking on Twitter. Find something that you can do to actually contribute and do it. It's it's that simple. And and and jolly, you do your part, you know you you you I think your your quest for answers uh is one that Yeah, it's it's complicated.

1:11:12 Speaker 3: It is complicated, and it's not for the faint of heart either.

1:11:16 Speaker 2: And especially with what you're going through. Uh, you know, uh, with everything, because remember, you know, I think sometimes people forget that, you know, you're a human and you have human problems that are going on right alongside this. You know, like you know it's and and you know it's hard. It's hard. So just know that I you know, I respect you as a human being, and I know that at the end of the day, you know, if if we come into this world, yes we come into this world through our mother and our father, but we come into this world alone, and one day we're going to be looking back at it alone.

1:12:05 Speaker 2: So we have ourselves to answer to. And frankly, my job is to facilitate conversations and to platform people.

1:12:14 Speaker 3: So it was great talking tonight.

1:12:17 Speaker 2: Yeah again, So if you're in d C, you gotta let me know.

1:12:21 Speaker 3: I will. I'll definitely let you know. Keep you on my my list of people that I have to tell if I'm going, Yeah.

1:12:29 Speaker 2: I will make my way to you if needed, because I'll be there for three four days, so I got plenty of time. I can't wait. I really it's gonna be exciting, very exciting. I just I for me, this is something I've I've never experienced before. You know, I've never gone to a congressional hearing. You know, like it's weird for me to even say that, but you know, I didn't even go on my eighth ade trip to Washington. Well partly because my my mom was we didn't have a lot of money, but the other part was because I didn't care to.

1:13:08 Speaker 2: You know, I didn't. I didn't care to. But uh, yeah, it's it's it's very interesting because now I'm like, I've never been so I've never been so excited to do something that's wonderful.

1:13:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're on you know, and and what a beautiful way to to transform the experience of your mother's passing into you know, a it's a it was a life changing moment for you, and it puts you on the path that you're on now. And and how that was her last act in this world. Tie the last thing that she did for for you, you know, the light and actually you the light's good.

1:13:52 Speaker 2: You know. Just that's it's it's funny that you say that because I I I just quit my day job, I put my I put my two weeks in. I didn't just quit and like leave them, but I was driving home and I asked, because my mother's ashes hang in the cars kind of like you know how people hanging things off the rear view mirror. Yeah, so I have my necklace. Yeah, it's it's there, and I always I whenever I want an answer or something, or whenever I want to talk to her, I grab it and close my eyes for a second and just ask.

1:14:39 Speaker 2: So this time I asked in Mayama on the right path. And then ten minutes later, this streaking light comes over the car and it could have just been a meteor. Yeah, it could have been a meteor.

1:14:52 Speaker 3: But was it during the showers recently?

1:14:55 Speaker 2: It was? It was well five days ago. I could look at okay, so it could have been I'm just saying, you know, whatever it was, it could have been something more interesting, but I didn't get a good look at it. But it was a streak like boom, right, it was going forward. It didn't come back over me. It went over me. So what I took from it is keep on trucking right, yeah, get.

1:15:22 Speaker 3: On that right track. It's literally left a track in the sky for you.

1:15:26 Speaker 2: Yeah. Doctor Irena Scott was like, oh, that was pretty quick. That was It only took ten minutes for an answer. Yeah, yeah, and and I it's been quite it's been interesting lately to say the least is And I think more people should get more engaged and do more even contact mof on and go out and uh do cases or whatever, find find a passion because it makes being a part of the community not much more fun when you can can tribute.

1:16:00 Speaker 3: Something, read a book on consciousness, watch your watch a documentary unconsciousness.

1:16:05 Speaker 2: Actually, what time is it real?

1:16:09 Speaker 3: Yeah?

1:16:09 Speaker 2: Yeah. One of my favorite documentaries that you're in is uh Constant Contact and it's by Dockside Media, And that was the first time I had ever seen you was in that that film. Okay, so that they do a great job talking about consciousness and that that film. So check that out a little a little plug for you, I guess because.

1:16:35 Speaker 3: They for Tyler, for the other Tyler.

1:16:39 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, for the other Tyler.

1:16:41 Speaker 3: Yeah.

1:16:43 Speaker 2: But but with us barreling down the road to December hearings, Yes again, I'm gonna ask you, what's your gut telling you because I've talked to people and they all seem to think that there's a wave coming or there, you know, not literally maybe literally, but metaphorically. So what is your gut telling you, what is your contact telling you?

1:17:16 Speaker 3: Well, my gut is telling me that that we may have some some pretty big names that come forward next week. We may be surprised at some of the people who testify over those What is it going to be two or three days? I can't remember? Is it thirteenth? Fourteenth? Fifteenth?

1:17:42 Speaker 2: I think I don't. There's rumors there's going to be multiple The main one is on the thirteenth, right at eleven thirty.

1:17:50 Speaker 3: Some of them may be closed, so they may be scheduled hearing dates on the calendar, but for a closed session, I'm just I'm just pontificating now, I don't I don't really know. But so it'll give us a snapshot of where we're at, and it can set the tone for the sence Like Committee on Intelligence to dig deeper into where those billions of dollars have been going and for how long they've been going there, and what they're funding. And again, I don't think that we're ever going to get the whole story.

1:18:36 Speaker 3: We may get the skeleton instead of the whole body, and we might just have to deal with that, meaning that if the ways in which they have gathered some of this information or intelligence or technology is through a classified means, and they want to protect their sources and their capabilities, then they will not release any of that particular information. So you would have end up with, you know, either at best highly reacted

1:19:18 Speaker 3: UH report reports that that really don't tell you very much, or you could end up with I, you know what, I to be honest, I I kind of lost my train of thought. I looked at the time and I just thought, oh gosh, I for like fifteen hours, it's been a long day.

1:19:46 Speaker 2: It has it has been a long day.

1:19:49 Speaker 3: Well, but I think we can we you know, we can we can expect that that that we're going to have a few surprises. And I'm not trying trying to you know, play it safe in predictions. It's just that, you know, I have been on multiple occasions assured by insiders that something was going to come to Fruition in a particular way. And because that that thing was, I want to say, could have such a powerful influence, it was suppressed and delayed, suppressed and delayed, suppressed and delayed. And so you know, I don't think that we're we're going to have the big shebang that we're hoping, but we may have confirmation that there have been contact with either off world civilizations or with submersive civilizations, you know, ancient retrieved technology.

1:20:58 Speaker 3: You know, there there's a lot of options that are on the table that they can point to without telling us the big stuff that we really want to know.

1:21:07 Speaker 2: So right right, it's actually a very that was very well said, and I could yeah, it's pretty on point. And I think as long as we remain committed and maintain the pressure and keep this whole status quo of the bypart is the nature of the topic, keep pushing and maintaining that pressure on our congressmen and our senators and the people who represent us, that making it known that this issue is something that we will not go down quietly into the night. You know, we will not stop asking for answers on this until they at least come as clean as they can.

1:21:56 Speaker 2: And I think for most of us, we understand that we are going to have to meet the military industrial complex halfway on some of this stuff. I mean, we're gonna have to provide amnesty for people, you know. I mean, we look at the JFK file, right and there's maybe one person alive that in that file. You know, uh, some information could come out and it could implement this one person, and that's why they've put more secrecy on it for the next, you know whatever seventy years. That's what Trump alluded to on the Rogan podcast at least, because he's gonna let RFK Junior go wild and investigate this.

1:22:42 Speaker 2: And he said that, you know, most of the people are dead. You know why. It's just and again it's I only relate to too, because it's it's the stuff from the past. There's no one alive, like, Okay, yes, yeah, we'redact that. I get it. You need to keep these people alive, you need to keep them safe. And there's one thing about the UFO community I think that we all admit is they are savage. And you know, so if there are living people out there, maybe you know, keep them out of the out of it. But give us the information, because not only do we pay for it, but we're also paying for the secrets to be put on us.

1:23:26 Speaker 2: And it's time we've had that. We've had our our full share of that bullshit.

1:23:31 Speaker 3: So and it belongs to us, I mean exactly, you know, it's it's ours now, it's fallen into the time that I think that most people could agree it's time to unseal that.

1:23:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it's time to And I think, uh, you know, I think that we'll see what happens, We'll see what yeah, you know what, We'll see what happens at the hearings. But I I was told that expect because if we can get enough people to it, you know, I think there's enough people in the world that I mean, if you surveyed one hundred people, ninety nine of them would say that there's intelligent there's more intelligent life in the universe. And to think that we're alone is absurd. It's a numbers game.

1:24:23 Speaker 2: Just even if you're playing just a numbers game, you're not religious. It's it's kind of absurd to think that we're the only game in town. So again, I'm I'm really excited to see what uh what is unveiled? And where can they Where can people find you on social media so they can continue following the work that you're doing and what uh what you're what you're saying, and you know the events you're attending.

1:24:48 Speaker 3: The best place to find me is always on x dot com at at yea.

1:24:55 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. So you thank you so much for being here.

1:24:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great to talk again. So it's good to.

1:25:02 Speaker 2: See you ty as always, it's so wonderful. And again i'd love the chance. Uh if you are there, like I said, i'd be, I.

1:25:10 Speaker 3: Will definitely let you know. Don't worry.

1:25:12 Speaker 2: But the plan is to start being able to fly guests in or go to them by i'd say mid twenty twenty five, so that's.

1:25:26 Speaker 3: Right around the corner. It'll be here before you know it.

1:25:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be a blink of an eye. So so we'll put you, we'll put you on the list for an in person chat no matter what.

1:25:36 Speaker 3: All right, So I appreciate it.

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